Alright, I'll post my request first, then explanation second:
Request:
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*Looking for a "Priority" ranking. When your strong attack goes through your opponent's strong attack and hits them instead of the two cancelling each other out. Does a ranking exist? (Please, no "well, this character seems pretty strong and probably has priority most of the time" - is there a list/ranking?)
**Looking for strategy suggestions for team play (specifically 2 vs. 2)
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Here's the reason. It takes a lot for me to ask for help on a game. I usually prefer to figure things out on my own. This is a special cast though. I recently got my butt handed to me after my buddy and I went over to an old friend's house and played a "reunion game" of Melee for the first time in several years (I have lived way out of town for some time now). We used to play with this kid when he was in elementary school (back in the 64 days) and for years after that. This kid is now in college, and he and his buddy beat us soundly. Not so badly that we never stood a chance, but still conclusively.
I have done some research and found a whole world of strategic and "glitchy" moves (reminiscent of Mario Kart "snaking", which I am not the biggest fan of but it is what it is). As I prep for a final rematch (and chance to reclaim some dignity) before we go back to our lives I'm already better prepared. Still, there are some situations that I had no response for. Any suggestions/recommendations would be appreciated. By the way, characters (at this point) are limited to Fox/Falco, Roy/Marth, Samus, Link, Jigglypuff - there's just not enough time to practice anybody else. I know, some of you can use everybody. I don't have time.
1) Game & Watch: "Fire Attack" appears to have Priority over all attacks. Dude spams this move while his buddy runs around and attacks. Its range seems to cover behind, above, and in front of him. Air attacks, frontal attacks, everything fails but getting behind him and attacking (which is easy to defend against). Suggestions? (No, standing back with Mario, etc and launching fireballs doesn't work. His buddy engages Mario/Fox/Falco while G&W molests the other one - or both if you're standing near each other - with that dang fire attack). Additionally, his parachute air attack and that (key) down-attack (in the air) seems invincible. True?
2) Dealing with Pikachu - Pikachu's attacks also seem to all have priority over the characters I use. True, or does my timing just need to be tweaked?
3) On the Fox Ship Level (the "classic" one) my buddy and I frequently found ourselves getting "stuck" in the corner on the right/lower side of the level where the ship makes a corner. I can't figure out how we're attacking, and "they" are attacking, yet we're the only ones taking damage. What were we doing wrong? Suggestions?
The Priority list is really what I would appreciate more than anything though. I don't mind getting "cheated" if I know it's inescapable. If it's a matter of my improving my timing fine, but it would help me to know when a seemingly 50/50 battle isn't going my way if never will (and thus I should avoid) or if I need to take a slightly different approach.
Request:
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*Looking for a "Priority" ranking. When your strong attack goes through your opponent's strong attack and hits them instead of the two cancelling each other out. Does a ranking exist? (Please, no "well, this character seems pretty strong and probably has priority most of the time" - is there a list/ranking?)
**Looking for strategy suggestions for team play (specifically 2 vs. 2)
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Here's the reason. It takes a lot for me to ask for help on a game. I usually prefer to figure things out on my own. This is a special cast though. I recently got my butt handed to me after my buddy and I went over to an old friend's house and played a "reunion game" of Melee for the first time in several years (I have lived way out of town for some time now). We used to play with this kid when he was in elementary school (back in the 64 days) and for years after that. This kid is now in college, and he and his buddy beat us soundly. Not so badly that we never stood a chance, but still conclusively.
I have done some research and found a whole world of strategic and "glitchy" moves (reminiscent of Mario Kart "snaking", which I am not the biggest fan of but it is what it is). As I prep for a final rematch (and chance to reclaim some dignity) before we go back to our lives I'm already better prepared. Still, there are some situations that I had no response for. Any suggestions/recommendations would be appreciated. By the way, characters (at this point) are limited to Fox/Falco, Roy/Marth, Samus, Link, Jigglypuff - there's just not enough time to practice anybody else. I know, some of you can use everybody. I don't have time.
1) Game & Watch: "Fire Attack" appears to have Priority over all attacks. Dude spams this move while his buddy runs around and attacks. Its range seems to cover behind, above, and in front of him. Air attacks, frontal attacks, everything fails but getting behind him and attacking (which is easy to defend against). Suggestions? (No, standing back with Mario, etc and launching fireballs doesn't work. His buddy engages Mario/Fox/Falco while G&W molests the other one - or both if you're standing near each other - with that dang fire attack). Additionally, his parachute air attack and that (key) down-attack (in the air) seems invincible. True?
2) Dealing with Pikachu - Pikachu's attacks also seem to all have priority over the characters I use. True, or does my timing just need to be tweaked?
3) On the Fox Ship Level (the "classic" one) my buddy and I frequently found ourselves getting "stuck" in the corner on the right/lower side of the level where the ship makes a corner. I can't figure out how we're attacking, and "they" are attacking, yet we're the only ones taking damage. What were we doing wrong? Suggestions?
The Priority list is really what I would appreciate more than anything though. I don't mind getting "cheated" if I know it's inescapable. If it's a matter of my improving my timing fine, but it would help me to know when a seemingly 50/50 battle isn't going my way if never will (and thus I should avoid) or if I need to take a slightly different approach.