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Spammer sentenced to 9 years

First felony spam case in U.S.

Jeremy Jaynes remains out of prison pending appeal.
The Associated Press

Updated: 2:27 p.m. ET April 8, 2005LEESBURG, Va. - A man convicted in the nation’s first felony case against illegal spamming was sentenced to nine years in prison Friday for bombarding Internet users with millions of junk e-mails.

Prosecutors said Jeremy Jaynes used the Internet to peddle pornography and sham products and services such as a “FedEx refund processor,” and at the time of his arrest was considered among the top 10 spammers in the world. Thousands of people fell for his e-mails, and prosecutors said Jaynes’ operation grossed up to $750,000 per month.

Jaynes, 30, was convicted in November for using false Internet addresses and aliases to send mass e-mail ads through an AOL server in Loudoun County, where America Online is based. Under Virginia law, sending unsolicited bulk e-mail itself is not a crime unless the sender masks his identity.

The judge delayed the start of the prison term while the case is appealed. Loudoun County Circuit Judge Thomas Horne said that because the law targeting junk e-mail is new and raises constitutional questions, it was appropriate to defer prison time until appeals courts rule. A jury had recommended the nine-year term for the North Carolina man.

Prosecutor Lisa Hicks-Thomas said she was pleased with the ruling and confident that the law would be upheld on appeal.

But defense attorney David Oblon argued that nine years was far too long given that Jaynes was charged as an out-of-state resident with violating a Virginia law that had taken effect just weeks before.

“We have no doubt that we will win on appeal, therefore any sentence is somewhat moot. Still, the sentence is not what we recommended and we’re disappointed,” Oblon said outside court.

Jaynes told the judge that regardless of how the appeal turns out, “I can guarantee the court I will not be involved in the e-mail marketing business again.” He remains under $1 million bond.

The jury also convicted Jaynes’s sister, Jessica DeGroot, but recommended only a $7,500 fine. Her conviction was later dismissed by the judge. A third defendant, Richard Rutkowski of Cary, N.C., was acquitted of all charges.
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[quote name='dude2003']still out of jail?!?! now that's just wrong but i think 9 years is still too little for these fucking spammers[/QUOTE]

I don't believe in jail time in spammers only because murderers get a lot less than 9 years in many cases :p

But I do believe in large fines and lots of community service, banned from using computers, etc.

Jail is for hardcore criminals imo :p

Plus when was the last time someone was "rehabilitated" in a jail? Almost never ... he will probably get a Phd in drug dealing there instead of thinking about why he did what he did.
 
[quote name='fanskad']Three quarters of a Million Dollars a Month?

I'm in the wrong business. Fire up the computers![/QUOTE]

which jail should we visit you at? ;)
 
I remember hearing about this one on CNN, which the guy was interviewed and said that he'll start spamming again when he gets out of jail.
 
Good, Im glad, spammers deserve much worst, much worst, much worst, much worst, much worst, you get the joke, much worst, much worst.................
 
[quote name='supermariomelee']I remember hearing about this one on CNN, which the guy was interviewed and said that he'll start spamming again when he gets out of jail.[/QUOTE]

In my previous post I did say I don't believe in jail for this guy, but if he is a prick like that I do believe in capital punishment ... the problems I have with jail are:

1. It makes people worse usually
2. Wasted taxpayer dollars

Just shoot the guy.
 
[quote name='opportunity777']In my previous post I did say I don't believe in jail for this guy, but if he is a prick like that I do believe in capital punishment ... the problems I have with jail are:

1. It makes people worse usually
2. Wasted taxpayer dollars

Just shoot the guy.[/QUOTE]

Second'd.
 
take all his money, deny him computer access forever, labotomy. problem solved. make an example and i doubt anyone would follow his footsteps.
 
[quote name='opportunity777']I don't believe in jail time in spammers only because murderers get a lot less than 9 years in many cases :p

[/QUOTE]

Can you name a murderer who got less than 9 years for over ten million counts of murder?
 
The punishment is too harsh for the crime. Despite everyone's hard feelings about deleting hundreds of spam emails, a 1 - 2 year prison sentence is more sensible in this country. Armed robbery and rapists get more lenient sentences.
 
besides, wouldnt most spammers work from overseas? Whenever I used to get a virus/trojan/spyware, I check on mcaffee because it shows just where the virus came from, and it always originated from overseas

I may be wrong (and I probably am) but most of the people who do these internet schemes are probably working in another, much smaller, country where investigations would be incredibly expensive.
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Rather than sending this guy to jail, we could have used the money we just lost to try and find new ways to block emails
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My punishment:
This man be charged a $500 million fine: the money is used to fund research to make small bracelet which will send out an electric shock whenever the spammer comes within 100 feet of a computer/ cell phone/ game boy/ satillite/ PDA/ (for the helluvit) TV/ virtually any type of electronic that can connect to the internet/ any type of electronic that can not connect to the internet/ bunnies
 
Crime is like the military, it pays, but eventually, you or your buddies are going down, and thats it
 
[quote name='E-Z-B']The punishment is too harsh for the crime. Despite everyone's hard feelings about deleting hundreds of spam emails, a 1 - 2 year prison sentence is more sensible in this country. Armed robbery and rapists get more lenient sentences.[/QUOTE]

Let's put it this way:

How many offenses do you think should result in a 9-year sentence? 100 million? A billion? 10 billion?
 
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People are forgetting that this guy not only spammed people, but also stole millions of dollars. So I think jail is an appropriate punishment. Also outside of jail time, I just don't see how they will be able to keep this guy off a computer.
 
I have to go to one of my favorite moments from the Chapelle Show and this quote because the government was, "Spam buster, bitch."
 
[quote name='eldad9']Let's put it this way:

How many offenses do you think should result in a 9-year sentence? 100 million? A billion? 10 billion?[/QUOTE]

It doesn't matter. It's not a serious crime. A fine would be sufficient.

My apartment complex has a sign that says "No circulars, No solicitation". We get both anyway. I don't see them getting thrown in jail for each circular they dropped at each door.
 
Jail isn't really the right situation for him. There's people much more deserving of jail time.. his punishment should be 500 hours of freelance computer help at whatever local office needs it.
 
[quote name='opportunity777']I don't believe in jail time in spammers only because murderers get a lot less than 9 years in many cases :p

But I do believe in large fines and lots of community service, banned from using computers, etc.

Jail is for hardcore criminals imo :p

Plus when was the last time someone was "rehabilitated" in a jail? Almost never ... he will probably get a Phd in drug dealing there instead of thinking about why he did what he did.[/QUOTE]

I disagree. Spammers cause a huge loss of productivity to corporate America. When you translate that to dollars, you will realize that that is an unbelievable sum of money.

Because of that, the sentence is justified.
 
I wish there was a punishment where you could make somebody live in poverty for the rest of their life.

Like if you made over $10,000 a year the government would take money away in greater and greater percentages until there is no way you could ever be rich.

Of course I'm in favor of chopping the balls off of rapists. Jail is usually not a deterrent for people who are willing to commit annoying or horrible crimes.
 
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