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[quote name='Dr. Venkman']I have the highest level of respect for you, but here's how I look at it (And honestly, perhaps I'm wrong):
He's a character in a TV Show. When he does an interview, the common fan could give two shits about who he "really is" as opposed to who they see on television. He's not selling "Phil", he's selling "CM Punk". That's the name on the shirts, the name on the DVDs, the name advertised on Raw. CM Punk's character believes that he is the best and no one can touch him, etc etc etc. Is it egotistical? Yes. Is it annoying? Sure. Is this what the "actor" really believes? Maybe, maybe not.
I've seen signs that say "It's still real to me". I've been watching since 1985 and I view it as a gloried soap opera. I DO appreciate well-executed angles and excellect wrestling matches of course, but I try not to take it seriously. Now is this guy an egotistical asshole in real life? Maybe. Who knows for certain?
Just my two cents.[/QUOTE]
He's totally a persona. He's probably "himself with the volume turned up to 11," as so many of those people like to ape when asked about why their characters are successful.
His bitterness towards The Rock is out of this world, though. He's bitching about Rock co-opting the WM main event, as he's a part-time wrestler (at best). Which is fine, but now that he's a big money, main event contract guy, he's made the same folly so many other main eventers make:
he thinks he's in the main event because he worked hard and paid his dues, not because of a combination of luck, circumstance, chance, and WWE being desperate.
Think of it this way: Hitman would be another Ray Rougeau (solid wrestler that nobody remembers all that much) if the WWF Steroid Trial never happened. Similarly, Punk would be wrestling 3 minute matches with Kofi Kingston at the 10:20 spot on Raw if business/ratings hadn't become so scarily low this summer.
He is now the "establishment" he rails against. He foolishly thinks that he's going to make WWE a wrestling company again, that he's going to make it dangerous, or edgy - that he's going to bring back the attitude. I don't know if he's working himself, because he's not fooling me. When I see him and Johnny Ace on my screen, I delve back into my work. He's no different than any other talkie-talk-talk dude on the show. Big, bombastic rock and roll entrance, runs his mouth in the ring, and then...?
MITB as a main event was amazing, due to the setup, the execution, and the atmosphere. Take those things away, and CM Punk is another dime a dozen WWE Sooperstar™. The only difference is that he has a few tattoos that separate him from the default CAW assortment of generic, unconvincing mostly white guys on the WWE roster.
Next time he makes a quasi-insider remark, a la "How ya doin', Colt Cabana?" - ask yourself just what has Punk done to (1) succeed in getting guys like Cabana back in WWE, (2) change the culture of the company, or (3) change the way their programming is presented and produced. He's done nothing.
That said, if you can watch Raw tonight and point out how or where it is radically different from where it was in the past, be my guest.
He's a character in a TV Show. When he does an interview, the common fan could give two shits about who he "really is" as opposed to who they see on television. He's not selling "Phil", he's selling "CM Punk". That's the name on the shirts, the name on the DVDs, the name advertised on Raw. CM Punk's character believes that he is the best and no one can touch him, etc etc etc. Is it egotistical? Yes. Is it annoying? Sure. Is this what the "actor" really believes? Maybe, maybe not.
I've seen signs that say "It's still real to me". I've been watching since 1985 and I view it as a gloried soap opera. I DO appreciate well-executed angles and excellect wrestling matches of course, but I try not to take it seriously. Now is this guy an egotistical asshole in real life? Maybe. Who knows for certain?
Just my two cents.[/QUOTE]
He's totally a persona. He's probably "himself with the volume turned up to 11," as so many of those people like to ape when asked about why their characters are successful.
His bitterness towards The Rock is out of this world, though. He's bitching about Rock co-opting the WM main event, as he's a part-time wrestler (at best). Which is fine, but now that he's a big money, main event contract guy, he's made the same folly so many other main eventers make:
he thinks he's in the main event because he worked hard and paid his dues, not because of a combination of luck, circumstance, chance, and WWE being desperate.
Think of it this way: Hitman would be another Ray Rougeau (solid wrestler that nobody remembers all that much) if the WWF Steroid Trial never happened. Similarly, Punk would be wrestling 3 minute matches with Kofi Kingston at the 10:20 spot on Raw if business/ratings hadn't become so scarily low this summer.
He is now the "establishment" he rails against. He foolishly thinks that he's going to make WWE a wrestling company again, that he's going to make it dangerous, or edgy - that he's going to bring back the attitude. I don't know if he's working himself, because he's not fooling me. When I see him and Johnny Ace on my screen, I delve back into my work. He's no different than any other talkie-talk-talk dude on the show. Big, bombastic rock and roll entrance, runs his mouth in the ring, and then...?
MITB as a main event was amazing, due to the setup, the execution, and the atmosphere. Take those things away, and CM Punk is another dime a dozen WWE Sooperstar™. The only difference is that he has a few tattoos that separate him from the default CAW assortment of generic, unconvincing mostly white guys on the WWE roster.
Next time he makes a quasi-insider remark, a la "How ya doin', Colt Cabana?" - ask yourself just what has Punk done to (1) succeed in getting guys like Cabana back in WWE, (2) change the culture of the company, or (3) change the way their programming is presented and produced. He's done nothing.
That said, if you can watch Raw tonight and point out how or where it is radically different from where it was in the past, be my guest.
ed up system. It does make you wonder what we'd be saying about Del Rio if nothing happened to Edge. His momentum after the Rumble was incredible, the real IWC 'summer of Punk' moment seven months before the real one. Del Rio's win finally seemed like a sign of new guys breaking through and... yeah. Still, he's at least a step up from Jack Swagger, so that's a... well, a really low bar for success. Ahem.
