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Hey Canadian CAGers!

Today is election day.

(And to make it relevant for gamers, so far the NDP has the most nerd/gamer-friendly platform since they want to eliminate the stupid bandwidth caps that Rogers and Bell and such have been gouging us with for so long.)

Please vote!
 
[quote name='Donburiboy']Hey Canadian CAGers!

Today is election day.

(And to make it relevant for gamers, so far the NDP has the most nerd/gamer-friendly platform since they want to eliminate the stupid bandwidth caps that Rogers and Bell and such have been gouging us with for so long.)

Please vote![/QUOTE]

Hell yes! Get out there and vote. I'm 28 and I'll admit, I have not voted in years. But I believe in Jack and I think he'll make a difference if we give him a shot! So I'm voting now (literally I'm out the door in a few minutes to vote). And yea, getting rid of those bandwidth caps would be one of those welcome changes!!

I'm excited to read and hear that young voters are more polarized in this election... I hope that translated into actual motivation to go out there and vote, as it has for me. We're a HUGE group that can make a HUGE impact on the politics of this country. And right now, all it takes is for us to get out and check a box on a piece of paper! So get out there and vote people! Let your choices be heard.
 
[quote name='Princess Zelda']Go Vote!


All party's said they'll kill the bandwidth cap.

The industry minister Tony Clentent is nerd friendly. http://twitter.com/#!/tonyclementcpc

I'll vote for the first party to say NO to the CRTC and allowed Wind mobile to exists in Canada.[/QUOTE]

Here! Here!

I don't watch a lot of movies or download a lot of stuff but the Canadian people should have the right to unlimited bandwidth. We should have the same rights to entertainment as the Americans.

I'll be walking down to the voting center later this afternoon.
 
[quote name='KAPBAM']Hell yes! Get out there and vote. I'm 28 and I'll admit, I have not voted in years. But I believe in Jack and I think he'll make a difference if we give him a shot! [/QUOTE]

No kidding! He'll pander to Quebec, drive businesses out of the country, and basically do to Canada what Bob Rae did to Ontario. Hell, why not give him a chance and see how miserable he can make things! YAY!
 
I think Rick Mercer made a great point about how there are people in Libya dieing in the streets for the right to do something we take for granted. One of the most important things a Canadian citizen can do is vote.
 
[quote name='eday_2010']No kidding! He'll pander to Quebec, drive businesses out of the country, and basically do to Canada what Bob Rae did to Ontario. Hell, why not give him a chance and see how miserable he can make things! YAY![/QUOTE]

YAY, none of those things has any basis in their platform, hurrah! Propaganda can be fun!

I'm voting for the US senator who complained to Sony about the PSN breach.

Conservatives aren't against keeping/raising the tax on recordable media, pandering to the RIAA. iPod tax! They also want to crack down on the copyright laws, meaning we wouldn't be able to copy our CDs to iTunes. Oh wellz.

I say have a good day wherever you are, pick up a cheap game while you're out (certainly not Rival Turf on VC, just released today), and vote for the Liberals, Greens, NDP, or an independent, anyone who cares about freedom, democracy, and economic stability in Canada. It's hard to afford cheap-ass games when driving the deficit to the moon!
 
I get a call to my house 6 times a days (literally, not exaggerating here) from my conservative and liberal candidates' calling machines giving me a lengthy message of why I should vote for them.

Screw it. I didn't even want an election. No way am I voting. Why you say? I don't really care who wins.
 
[quote name='AftComet']I get a call to my house 6 times a days (literally, not exaggerating here) from my conservative and liberal candidates' calling machines giving me a lengthy message of why I should vote for them.

Screw it. I didn't even want an election. No way am I voting. Why you say? I don't really care who wins.[/QUOTE]

And yet I guarantee you'll find time to bitch about whatever party gets voted in.
 
[quote name='aftcomet']i get a call to my house 6 times a days (literally, not exaggerating here) from my conservative and liberal candidates' calling machines giving me a lengthy message of why i should vote for them.

Screw it. I didn't even want an election. No way am i voting. Why you say? I don't really care who wins.[/quote]

communist!
 
[quote name='Jogurt the Yogurt']Conservatives aren't against keeping/raising the tax on recordable media, pandering to the RIAA. iPod tax! They also want to crack down on the copyright laws, meaning we wouldn't be able to copy our CDs to iTunes. Oh wellz.[/QUOTE]

This. I normally vote conservative. But I'm fully against that nutty "tough against crime" bill they shoehorned C-32 back into. I seriously think I'm just going to vote NDP...
 
:roll:

FFS, I get enough of this "Go Vote!" stuff on Facebook, Twitter and the TV. CAG doesn't need a thread about it.
 
I can't vote today unless I want to get a $5000 fine and up to 5 years in jail.

I voted last weekend.
 
[quote name='DMPugh']And yet I guarantee you'll find time to bitch about whatever party gets voted in.[/QUOTE]


That's a a pretty bold statement considering you don't even know who I am.

The last thing I give a shit about is politics...
 
[quote name='AftComet']That's a a pretty bold statement considering you don't even know who I am.

The last thing I give a shit about is politics...[/QUOTE]

Exactly. So if you're ever tempted to complain about how the government is run after this election, just remember that the last thing you give a shit about is politics, and you have absolutely no right to complain about how the country is run, on any level.
 
Remember what happened in Egypt? Or what's happening in Libya, Syria, and many other third world countries? Thousands of lives lost because of a complete collapse of democracy.... don't take it for granted.
 
[quote name='Rocky071']:roll:

FFS, I get enough of this "Go Vote!" stuff on Facebook, Twitter and the TV. CAG doesn't need a thread about it.[/QUOTE]

Agreed.

For the record I'll be at home scratching my balls.
 
[quote name='DMPugh']Exactly. So if you're ever tempted to complain about how the government is run after this election, just remember that the last thing you give a shit about is politics, and you have absolutely no right to complain about how the country is run, on any level.[/QUOTE]


Many, many people made a lot of sacrifices so that I would have the personal freedom to decide for myself on what to do. Having the personal freedom to make your own decisions is what Canada is all about. I also have the freedom to say what I want, when I want; so I can bitch all I want no matter who wins or loses.

Welcome to Canada.
 
[quote name='eday_2010']No kidding! He'll pander to Quebec, drive businesses out of the country, and basically do to Canada what Bob Rae did to Ontario. Hell, why not give him a chance and see how miserable he can make things! YAY![/QUOTE]

People who vote ndp don't know any better or have little to no longterm memory. Bob Rae valiently tried to destroy Ontario and luckily only succeeded in destroying his party. Amazingly Ujjal Dosanjh was allowed to do the same thing to BC. God forbid we allow them to run the entire country.
 
I hate this thread. I hear enough about voting, really, do we need to see it here also?

Go out and vote; yes. You have to vote because it's your duty; no. We have a democratic choice not to vote, just like we have the choice to be ignorant. I don't harp on people that don't vote since they're making a dumb choice not to excercise their right to vote. Think about it: do you really want people who make dumb choices to have a say in who runs the country? On the flipside, don't those of us that vote always seem to make a stupid choice anyway? Yes, I love democracy. Yes, I hate politics. And yes I did vote. This time. ;)

Anyway, since some people are talking politics on a gaming forum, :roll: and all parties pretty much suck anyway, I vote for the only real choice.

I vote
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[quote name='VetraX']Agreed.

For the record I'll be at home scratching my balls.[/QUOTE]

Amen to that! Politics is for suckers!
 
Voted with the greens because I want more voices and more perspectives. Conservative majority equals hold on to your butts.
 
[quote name='Jogurt the Yogurt']It's hard to afford cheap-ass games when driving the deficit to the moon![/QUOTE]

It's harder when you are taxed to death by socialist parties trying to bring everyone down to the lowest common denominator. In any case, a nice victory last night.
 
So what was the 'selling points' of the Conservative party, anyways? It seemed they were more pre-occupied with knocking down the Liberal party, I missed what they were actually aiming to do with our country.
 
[quote name='eday_2010']It's harder when you are taxed to death by socialist parties trying to bring everyone down to the lowest common denominator. In any case, a nice victory last night.[/QUOTE]

Weird thing to say, since we didn't have a federal socialist party running in the election. Oh, wait, you must have ingested some baseless propaganda recently. You probably don't realize we're going to be taxed to death by the CPC. Poor thing. :(
 
[quote name='game_fanatic']So what was the 'selling points' of the Conservative party, anyways? It seemed they were more pre-occupied with knocking down the Liberal party, I missed what they were actually aiming to do with our country.[/QUOTE]

I'll simplify it :

Buy Jets for our army
Cut in the culture and services.
Not give a damn about the earth/global warming/kyoto threat
Stop the weapon registry
Against abortion and gay marriage,

First things that come to mind
Way to go Canada :applause: Such a sad day for us today.

Seriously, as you can see, those are the portraited bad points of the Conservative Party. Don't know the good one really. Maybe one who voted for them could help you
 
[quote name='Dashboard']I'll simplify it :

Buy Jets for our army
Cut in the culture and services.
Not give a damn about the earth/global warming/kyoto threat
Stop the weapon registry
Against abortion and gay marriage,

First things that come to mind
Way to go Canada :applause: Such a sad day for us today.

Seriously, as you can see, those are the portraited bad points of the Conservative Party. Don't know the good one really. Maybe one who voted for them could help you[/QUOTE]You forgot the crime bill that says fuck you to online privacy.
 
[quote name='Dashboard']I'll simplify it :

Buy Jets for our army
Cut in the culture and services.
Not give a damn about the earth/global warming/kyoto threat
Stop the weapon registry
Against abortion and gay marriage,

First things that come to mind
Way to go Canada :applause: Such a sad day for us today.

Seriously, as you can see, those are the portraited bad points of the Conservative Party. Don't know the good one really. Maybe one who voted for them could help you[/QUOTE]

Yeah that's why I didn't vote for them, but I didn't follow the election in great detail so I am not sure what the draw of the Conservative party was. I'm sure someone who voted for the Conservative can chime in.

And I'm not looking for "I voted Conservative because I didn't want Ignatieff being PM" or something similar. I'm honestly curious as to what made the Conservative government so popular this go around.
 
Well, I guess I'm the only Conservative~ish guy around. So I'll guess I'll argue some of these points?

Buy Jets for our army - The military needs jets, the current fleet is ancient, and will be grounded in 2014, and need replacement. Nobody contested that point, they just freaked out over the pricetag, and demanded we open it up to bidding or something. That's nonsense, the jet industry doesn't work that way. There are really only 4 current options out there. The F-22 is US exclusive, we can't buy it even if we wanted to. The Eurofighter is generally regarded as a piece of fuck. We could buy some old model from somewhere, that'd be cheaper, but we'd just have crap and would be looking to replace them relatively soon. That leaves the F-35, which the Liberals bought into the R&D for at the ground floor years ago (obviously intending to buy them at this point themselves). It was hands down the best model we could get, we had bargaining leverage in hand (which was used to drag jobs here and reduce the price). If we didn't bite now we would've lost our leverage and wouldn't have gotten nearly as good a deal. So it was kinda the obvious choice.

Cut in the culture and services. - Eh? I don't like my tax dollars going to pointless culture. If they can't make their own money then their work obviously isn't worth squat.

Not give a damn about the earth/global warming/kyoto threat - Conservatives do care apparently. They just point out the obvious, we're way smaller than say China. So why should we sign onto some agreement that'll just pointlessly fine us and not them? Beyond that we can regulate ourselves, right?

Stop the weapon registry - Makes sense. It's redundant, guns are already licensed, and the registry costs quite a bit and is full of holes. Most guns that'll be used to commit crimes aren't registered...

Against abortion and gay marriage, - Meh, somebody needs to represent the anti-abortion people, they're a large portion of the population. I don't really agree with that point, but somebody has to say it. I am against gay marriage. Not the fact of gays getting married, I'm against the state stepping on the civil liberties of churchs that are against it. If homosexuals want to persuade a church to do that for them they can go ahead and try. The government isn't there to force opinions and beliefs on the ignorant masses.

That's one of problems I have with Conservatives though. Their civil liberties track record is pretty poor. But I donno, I think all the parties are kinda bad when it comes to trying to push their beliefs on others...

You forgot the crime bill that says fuck you to online privacy. - I hate that, outright hate. I wish there was some way to smack some sense into them...

And I'm not looking for "I voted Conservative because I didn't want Ignatieff being PM" or something similar. I'm honestly curious as to what made the Conservative government so popular this go around. - My only guess is everyone was tired of elections. If they didn't get a majority we'd be back to this in 2-3 years. I liked the government as a minority though, it was ineffectual and impotent. Never getting anything really done, mostly letting the status quo continue, and just running the day to day operations it needed to.
 
Buy Jets for our army-There's a penalty for walking away from the R&D group our aerospace industry in Canada will not get the jobs created through this program. Canada is a tire 3 partner. Also if we have competitive bid process and the F-35 win we have to order from one of the partners and the price goes up. 500 million has already been spent on R&D by Canada. The Liberal's signed us up for this project. We need new jets to replace the 80 F-18 we have.

Cut Services-10,000 workers retire from the public service every year. Cost reductions will come from the retiring of the workers that they don't need to replace.

Cut Culture-The only thing I've heard is they won't help pay for the NHL Hockey Stadium in Quebec but they will give kids a art's tax credit like the fitness credit now and double the current fitness credit.

Stop the weapon registry-It's the long gun registry not the gun registry. Gun registry will continue.
Against abortion and gay marriage-They won't go near these issue.

Honest reason's why I voted Conservative. I also honestly think the NDP could be the best opposition party right now for Canada as long as they think nationally for the people of Canada.

A party that supports our military
Extending Broadband coverage & Cheaper wireless-What my Mom has to pay for 2GB a month is highway robbery. There's no broadband in her area.
They will cut the public funding of political parties. This was put in by Chretien before he retired
Opening up the Canadian telecom market
A party that will say no to the CRTC
No cap on internet-UBB
No iPod tax
No to regulation of Internet video providers such as Netflix
Salary splitting for income tax
Cracking down on human smuggling
Not raising the tax rate on small businesses and giving a hiring credit for small business

The rest is in the 67 page platform PDF is here
 
I moved up here cause I didn't want to live in the US! Not to mention our local Conservative MP is a complete dick.
/bitching about the election until the next one
 
the system is faulty, you dont vote for who you want nationally, you have to vote for someone with a chance in your area

it should be illegal to mention another party in your own party's tv/print ad
 
harper won... alright so what morons here voted for the conservatives? reveal yourselves so i can give you a good virtual kick in the ass.
 
just to let everyone know, ragnar14 is the first jackass i found here that obviously voted conservative. everyone give him a pat on the back (kick in the ass)
 
[quote name='EpicNoobcracker']harper won... alright so what morons here voted for the conservatives? reveal yourselves so i can give you a good virtual kick in the ass.[/QUOTE]

I voted Conservative and always will since Alberta need a pro-business government to stay financially healthy. I'm tired of the NDP and Liberals trying to rape my province.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jaycw/3087834230/
 
[quote name='EpicNoobcracker']harper won... alright so what morons here voted for the conservatives? reveal yourselves so i can give you a good virtual kick in the ass.[/QUOTE]

I voted conservative. Veni in me frater! Molon pros me! It sucks that there isn't an actual viable right wing party in Canada, or I would vote for them!

But if you want to know who voted for the Conservatives, I shall tell you. It is people who have jobs and families that are fed up with large portions of their taxes going to sustain the hopeless (visit a downtown in your area for further information). They take taxes from those of us who live far away from the urban area and spend it to refurbish the downtown core. After restoration is complete, everything is vandalized almost immediately.

The people are tired of their taxes being wasted. I think a very economically conservative (not the Conservative Party) would do very well in the non-urban areas of the country.

Furthermore, can we get a party in this country that believes in suitable punishments for crimes? Say what you want about the US, but when they give somebody a life sentence, the perp doesn't get out. Here, committing murder may get you a BARBARIC 12 years in prison. Now I am sure, many liberals will say "oh, 12 years, that is a ton! They have paid their debt", but I bet you wouldn't say that if it was your child or significant other or parent that was murdered. Victims never get justice here! Also, why do they even call it paying your debt to society', when the tax payer pays for your existence? They should be making street signs and various items used by society that are provided by the public sector.

The gravy train has ended and severe cuts have to be made. Everything must be audited, and all corruption must be sought out and punished harshly. The West can no longer afford the decadence of the past, especially with the quickly approaching demographic catastrophe (retirement of the baby boomers).

I also want to add that the Conservative ads were extremely petty (but I suppose effective, given the complete annihilation of the Liberal Party). The majority government will prevent us from having an election constantly which is an expensive process.
 
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Furthermore, can we get a party in this country that believes in suitable punishments for crimes? Say what you want about the US, but when they give somebody a life sentence, the perp doesn't get out. Here, committing murder may get you a BARBARIC 12 years in prison. Now I am sure, many liberals will say "oh, 12 years, that is a ton! They have paid their debt", but I bet you wouldn't say that if it was your child or significant other or parent that was murdered. Victims never get justice here! Also, why do they even call it paying your debt to society', when the tax payer pays for your existence? They should be making street signs and various items used by society that are provided by the public sector.

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I would respond to the whole thing, but this was the more interesting point for me. Statistically, we lock people on average for over 25 years in the case of first degree murder. That's about a year or so less than the United States. The reason we have fewer murderers in jail per capita is because murder is far less common in Canada than in the U.S. Some cities don't even reach triple digits in a year. So as far as punishment for murderers go, I'd say Canada is doing fine in that regard.

Its called 'paying a debt to society' because to break the law is to break the rules of society in your own favour. Since the criminal has apparently gained some kind of benefit, they are now indebted to a society they have taken from. Think of someone robbing a bank, and it should be pretty clear.
 
oh this thread REALLY needs to die. it doesn;t belong in this forum, and it has NOTHIGN to do with video games.
 
[quote name='JGonspy']I would respond to the whole thing, but this was the more interesting point for me. Statistically, we lock people on average for over 25 years in the case of first degree murder. That's about a year or so less than the United States. The reason we have fewer murderers in jail per capita is because murder is far less common in Canada than in the U.S. Some cities don't even reach triple digits in a year. So as far as punishment for murderers go, I'd say Canada is doing fine in that regard.

Its called 'paying a debt to society' because to break the law is to break the rules of society in your own favour. Since the criminal has apparently gained some kind of benefit, they are now indebted to a society they have taken from. Think of someone robbing a bank, and it should be pretty clear.[/QUOTE]

You are right about first degree murder, and I suppose I should have been more clear. People who commit second degree murder (which I find to be a more senseless crime) are up for parole much sooner. I think it is 11 years or so.

I understand what you are saying about paying a debt to society, but I think of it as the same type of statement as 'cleaning someone's clock' or having a 'ham-fisted argument'. The statement simply doesn't make literal sense. But, I think it should be made literal, where prisoners literally pay a debt to society by becoming the 'employees' of the people.
 
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