[quote name='DNukem170']Many people have their gaming setups in a side room or bedroom where they just have whatever cheap TV they can get.
I also know people that have very large non-HD TVs as their main viewing TV.[/QUOTE]
I'm against 90% of what Microsoft has announced so far, but this? I mean you can get an HDMI computer monitor for around $150.00 that will work perfectly. Sooner or later, you've got to make the change.
[quote name='RiPPn']You've named about the only scenario this would be necessary. And with 500GB and being able to attach USB drives, this is probably not going to be something you have to do.[/QUOTE]
You make it sound like 500GB is a large HDD. The Witcher 2, Batman Arkham City, Dragon Age: Origins Ultimate - These three current gen games alone are over 60GB on the PC. I'd fill up that 500GB HDD in a day.
[quote name='TimboSliceGB']pc games have keys and they have copy protection on the disc :facepalm:[/QUOTE]
Console gaming and PC gaming should never be compared. They're two entirely different beasts.
PC Gaming has infinite backwards compatibility. I can play GTA1 on my Windows 7 PC and I can play Bioshock Infinite. (Shout out to Kid Chameleon!) PC Gaming has a modding community that can make a game infinite as well. Do you know how long I played Half-Life due to Total Conversion mods? They Hunger was a specific one that I remember to this day. PC Gaming has fan-made patches that can fix issues developers can't be bothered with.
Console gaming benefits from being easily accessible to everyone. It benefits from giving the owner the option to rent/trade/sell games that PC gaming does not. It benefits from simply throwing a disc into the tray and immediately playing the game vs. hours of downloading or installing on the PC.
The issue is that Xbox One is supposedly doing away with ALL of its advantages over PC Gaming while adding none of PC Gaming's advantages. So you cannot go "Well PC Gaming..." because PC Gaming is going to be MILES ahead of what the Xbox One offers for actual gaming if this shit holds true.
[quote name='JP']Honestly the game activation scheme doesn't bother me as I've bought into a similar system for years: Steam. It's not exact same but it's extremely similar. I buy a disc at the store, install it and activate via steam to speed up the download. I can't play that on another machine without downloading it to that and logging in as myself. Even the online features to activate the game are similar, have to be online for the first launch and then can play the single player offline (and most of the multiplayer). Yes you can add cracks to play without launching the Steam client, but that goes against TOS. Microsoft is just embracing the PC philosophy with their console.
People ask what will Microsoft do if they want to start shutting down those activation servers or something along those lines, what will Steam do if the service is going out? They say they have plans but we have no real guarantees. I see no difference here.[/QUOTE]
Something I accept about all media I purchase is that it will die off at some point. I'll have to replace my DVDs eventually, I'll have to replace my CDs with MP3s, etc. One day, I'll probably have to give up my Steam Collection, but it's just as likely that some hacker is going to develop a crack that lets me play them. If not, well hell, Steam still outlived at least two generations of consoles.
[quote name='TimboSliceGB']piracy is one of the main things to blame this on. piracy is one main reason why activision codes came to pc. piracy and jtag 360s are a bigger issue then most people think why do you think microsoft starting to test for them connected to live two years ago.
why are people so ma about no bc on ps4 and x1's bc ha limited number of games on 360 and it has not been possible on ps3 fats for over a year now and never on ps3 slims why would they put it back into systems after taking it out.[/QUOTE]
The poor publishers and piracy is a hard pill to swallow when Activision and EA are reporting billions in revenue. EA themselves sent me a notice letting me know about their 4.1 Billion in revenue for 2012. Piracy and used games sure are killing them.
I believe this is about controlling consumers moreso than combating piracy. We haven't seen DRM successfully stop piracy yet, but it's certainly given companies more control over their paying customers.
[quote name='JP']I see the X1 as a step towards Microsoft trying to get a much stronger hold in PC gaming market, maybe even a step towards an item similar to the proposed Steamboxes but under the microsoft flag and store. I'd be willing to bet porting from X1 to PC or PC to X1 will be much simpler process and probably designed that way to be easier on the devs.[/QUOTE]
I don't see how you can consider this Microsoft trying to get a foothold in the PC gaming market. The machine they're releasing is the anti-PC Gamer, and they've openly said they won't focus on traditional pc games. Hell, they even offered up Solitaire as a PC game we should be excited about.
Microsoft is giving PC gamers the finger in favor of its console, the problem is, it's console is giving the finger to Console Gamers also.
even own a console? It is literally a PC with some stupid 
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