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CAGcast #185: Less Yakity Yakity, More Shooty Shooty


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#31 lokizz

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Posted 21 January 2010 - 12:50 AM

im going to say something i never thought id say in my life..........i agree with wombat. ultimate spiderman is a good series to do a spiderman reboot off of and yes itd be better if he had webshooters instead of organic webshooters ( considering someone in the series already has those).

part of what makes the ultimate series great is the realistic way they deal with him juggling his life, relatioships and superhero duties and itd be cool to see that series brough to life ( especially with a younger hott aunt may).

and the green goblin in the last series of films was damn cheesy he should have looked more like the classic one not completly but in a slightly altered updated form but the mask needed to the same and move realistically. also you needed to have the goblin weapons ( pumpkin bombs, finger zapers, throwing blades).

if they do well with it they could easily use the new siderman flicks to reboot some of the other series into ultimate forms( ultimate xmen for one) while still keeping the successful franchises like Iron man going .

but you were wrong about spiderman games not needing to be openworld its just how you use the open world environment. you need to have destructible environments as well as a kind of cause and effect system where damamge you do or allow to be done could hurt or help you in later missions. add to that having to divide your time being spiderman/ peter parker and the game could be alot more. like how in some sandbox games you can choose to do a mission or not.

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Posted 21 January 2010 - 01:18 AM

Since you guys sometimes take tv recommendations and since you're on sci-fi/space kick, I'd recommend Stargate Universe. You dont need to know about any previous star gate shows to enjoy it. So there. I think there was like 10 episodes and its on break right now.

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Posted 21 January 2010 - 01:32 AM

Glad its not a live show! Those are almost unbearable to listen too, especially when your taking calls.
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Posted 21 January 2010 - 02:30 AM

Cheapy - as someone else stated your illness probably came from something you at several days ago. There are a few bacterial toxins that will hit you quicker, but I doubt that's what you had based upon what you ate. Not saying you didn't have an FBI, but you have to look back a little further.

The laws regarding foreign ownership in Japan are pretty strict from what I hear. That is why Red Lobster there is no longer affiliated with the "real" Red Lobster. Might be why some of the restaurants you mentioned are closing in Japan.

I was thinking Sony butt plug while you were going through your list and then you said the same thing. I was thinking "dammit that was my suggestion"...

Overall good show.
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#35 repete

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Posted 21 January 2010 - 03:02 AM

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#36 donssword

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Posted 21 January 2010 - 06:27 AM

Great show as usual. A couple of things bugged me though:

1) Nintendo has been hyping The Glory of Heracles in all its channels--yeah, your sort of slack for not picking up on this.

2) English Fatal Frame for the Wii does not require a hack, a jailbreak, harddrive, whatever--its a patch you put on an SD card, and it modifies the game, like any game that allows you to play your own music with it. Its not a hack, and it uses any old SD card that you can use with a Wii for your gamesaves and does not require any Wii modification.

3) Please don't mention again you only get your news thru Howard Stern. It really does not reflect well on you. I got nothing against Stern, but getting your news thru Stern is like getting your news thru Limbaugh--its not kosher.

4) Maybe you still have some stomach trouble--you were way too mean with Wombat. We like you passionate Cheapy, but not hateful to one of your own. You picked on him for wanting to make a decision in Army of Two, when you certainly wanted to make your own decision--pot, meet kettle.

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#37 Blackout

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Posted 21 January 2010 - 07:15 AM

Good show guys.

It sounds like Wombat's diet is getting to him. The guy is about to snap and I wouldn't be surprised if another moral choice by Cheapy sends him completely over the edge. I couldn't stop laughing about that story, especially how Wombat conveniently got "disconnected" from Cheapy and didn't play the game with him all weekend. Wombat, you need to chill out. Go eat a fat ass cheeseburger with an extra large milkshake before you wind up on the 5 o'clock news.

Spider-Man for the PS1 was an awesome game, one of my favorites on the system. IMO the last good Spider-Man game was Spider-Man 2 (not a sequel to the PS1 game) on the PS2. I had a lot of fun with that one. Everything after that has been not up to snuff. Since they're restarting the movie franchise, they should do the same with the video games. All they need to do is take a few pages from Arkham Asylum and add their own flavor to it and it'll be great.

I'm in the same boat in regards to Bioshock 2. I loved the first one, but I'm not sure if number two is going to deliver. With so many games coming out, I might just wait a few months before picking it up, unless it gets amazing reviews. I'll definitely have to wait and see. I hope it turns out amazing, but right now I'm keeping my expectations low, like Pants on the Ground low.



#38 menikmati

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Posted 21 January 2010 - 08:57 AM

Only about 45 minutes in, but I have some respect for Cheapy knowing about how an actual turntable works. I remember seeing him refer to himself as a bedroom DJ and seeing his setup in one of his videos.

#39 Thomas96

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Posted 21 January 2010 - 01:17 PM

Good show guys,

I just want to make a comment reference the Shitbox, and Sony COCKStation - The games for these new peripherals are already made. Games like Bloom blox that didn't do wellon the Wii can get a second life on PS3/360 due to the release of Shit box and "COCKStation". The goal is not to take over the Wii's market, but rather just to get a piece of it.
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#40 Tengaport

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Posted 21 January 2010 - 02:22 PM

Cheapy, I was about to make an argument for the price discrepancy with Chinatown Wars when it comes to the iPhone, PSP & DS calling out the fact that perhaps it's due to digital distribution on the iPhone. Then I remembered the PSN sells the game for $40 as well, so scratch that theory...

#41 Walt Jay

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Posted 21 January 2010 - 02:58 PM

So Wombat is going to do some fan-fiction for the upcoming Green Latern game? Awesome!
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#42 syd411

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Posted 21 January 2010 - 03:51 PM

I think both of you two need to come to terms with each of your pussification tendencies in gaming, etc. Most recently, cheapy taking wombat to task for getting all weepy about taking the low road in Army of Two (as well as cheapy gleefuly gunning down Russians in MW2). Yet on the other hand, cheapy gets all emotional from the dramatic ending of Flower, as well as misting up during Ferngully...I mean Avatar. I'm sure Shipwreck has his own area of vaginal affiliation (oh wait, a no-show for a bad case of the sniffles). Keep up the good work ladies, love the show.

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Posted 21 January 2010 - 07:12 PM

Cheapy - as someone else stated your illness probably came from something you at several days ago. There are a few bacterial toxins that will hit you quicker, but I doubt that's what you had based upon what you ate. Not saying you didn't have an FBI, but you have to look back a little further.


Overall good show.

Actually that's incorrect info regarding the amount of time something takes to fester in the digestive tract. Your immune system is made to react as quick as possible to any foreign material hence improve your survivability. Your digestive tract begins at the mouth and the taste sensation it can detect in minute amounts is bitterness, this is because things that are bad are usually bitter. Ask someone who is lactose intolerant how long it takes for their digestive tract to react, for those that don't know the digestive tract is one of the areas where there is a lot of blood flow. The more blood flow the quicker your body will react to foreign antigens. Not to mention the immune system specialized digestive tissue and MALT and GALT, but I won't go into details on those.

#44 ZombieJeebus

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Posted 21 January 2010 - 07:15 PM

Another good Spidey game was the original Genesis Spiderman game. Taking pictures in that game to see how they would develop was almost as much fun as the side scrolling action. Taking better pictures gave better money, which allowed you to buy more webfluid. Skip taking pix and risk running out of webs. Great mechanic.

Organic webshooters in the movie ended up not being a big deal imo. It always bugged me a little that Peter Parker gained all the powers of a spider EXCEPT the ability to make webs.

Edit: And cast my vote as a "no" for live call in shows. Too much dead air and there is no one to screen dumb questions. If you're going to do them, take questions from a chat room.
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#45 Mayday

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Posted 21 January 2010 - 07:26 PM

A great show, Cheapy and Wombat's humour is really starting making me laugh uncontrollably. Listening to the cast I normally end up tears with laughter, just like Mrs Cheapy after D makes an attempt at pleasuring her. Great show guys, excuse the dry humour.

#46 Tybee

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Posted 21 January 2010 - 08:21 PM

Regarding Avatar in 3D, dimness, and its propensity to cause nausea or headaches: There are (in the States, at least) four different 3D technologies being used to present Avatar:

RealD 3D Cinema: The most widely adopted 3D technology in U.S. cineplexes. Uses the "RayBan"-style polarized glasses.
Dolby 3D: One of the cheaper ways for a theater to project 3D, though perhaps unsurprisingly, considered to be lacking by comparison. Uses thin, washable glasses
XpanD: Uses "active" glasses with a microchip and infrared sensor that control rapid LCD shutters in the lenses in sync with timecodes in the projected film. Supposedly eliminates "ghosting" around objects and dimness problems that plague other 3D technologies, and can be used with weird screen sizes. Relatively new and obviously very expensive, so not in wide use.
IMAX 3D: IMAX uses their own proprietary 3D technology. This is the way I saw Avatar.

From what I've read, some people react badly to the different technologies, resulting in either a headache or nausea (but rarely both, strangely). So while you might do badly with one, another might work for you. Also, the dimness Cheapy complained about has to do with the polarized lenses and filters installed on the projector to enable the 3D. Basically, all the technologies work by sending alternating images to each eye, so at any moment in time, each eye is only seeing half the light compared to watching normal 2D projection. So that's why it seems darker.

As far as the Japanese staying for the credits, I know the Japanese are generally much more interested in film scores than Americans, so it's possible they're hanging around to listen to the music. Or it could just be a way of showing respect for the filmmakers.

Even though I am fully aware it's just a game and that those decisions matter for little else then achievements my moral compass always leads me to take the high road. It sounded liked Wombat was a little embarrassed by the way he reacted and tired to brush it off when you confronted him, but STAND PROUD WOMBAT! There are dozens of us, DOZENS OF US!!!!


I'm with you guys. Yes, it's just a game, but I can't just blow off the moral choices. Sometimes it's fun to be bad, but I'm not one of those gamers that revels in taking the darkest path available. That's not fun for me, and I usually only do so if there's a separate "dark side" campaign or achievements involved. Boring I know, but I am what I am.

I think in this instance, it was also a control issue. It would have been nice for Cheapy to at least confer with Wombat before making the choice. The game is called "Army of TWO" after all. :roll:

Cheapy's right about keeping TV out of the bedroom. When we moved into our current home four years ago, we decided to leave the television out of the boudoir. I fought it at first, but my wife was right. I sleep better, get laid more, and generally find it a more peaceful place.

Finally, as another CAG who had (and BEAT) cancer, best wishes to Terry. Kick its ass, my friend.

#47 NastyTeddyBear

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Posted 21 January 2010 - 10:52 PM

I do NOT have a Wii :D

#48 BigBizzee

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 02:06 AM

Pretty good show! It's tough to make a good videogame show when the releases right now completely suck.

Here are a couple of thoughts:

1. If the releases suck this bad ever again, how about throwing in a section to the show talking about any older games you might be playing, or maybe reflect on some older games that are CHEAP nowadays. Not just "cheap deals", it could be something that has been cheap for a while, but is worth picking up.

2. I like Shipwreck's insight on games (and I'd love to see a new Cag Forecast show), but I like the CagCast without Shipwreck. I just don't think it works as well having the three of you. Sorry :(

3. Cheapy - If your 720P Plasma looks great, just wait for a new TV. The prices drop SOOOO fast, you'll be kicking yourself in the ass for buying sooner than later. Trust me, it just happened to me.

4. Cheapy again - that old PC game you were talking about (I think you called it "Starfire" or something?)...are you talking about STAR CONTROL? You mentioned mining, talking to Aliens, etc - and that it came out on Genesis (Star Control II came out on Genesis). I played Star Control on the 3DO, and I believe it's the same game you are talking about.

You guys cracked me up with the talk about Shitbox and the "Arc"...that's what I love about the show. Good info, and good fun.

Keep it up!!

#49 NastyTeddyBear

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 02:48 AM

The "Arc" should be called the Motion Fleshlight

orrrr maybe just "Flesh light"

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 03:42 AM

Thanks cagcast for helping me pass the time at work today. 8-)
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#51 redtank

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 03:44 AM

Cheapy! You were dead-on with your Avatar commentary. I keep on seeing all the vivid colors in the commercials for the movie, and yet they really were dull in the 3-D version that I saw, Like you, I saw it in a very modern, up-to-date theater that has the best quality picture around, but the colors in the 3-D version of Avatar just seemed muted to me.

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 03:54 AM

The show feels empty without shipwreck. You guys need to start treating him better. GINGER PEOPLE HAVE SOULS. Watch this http://whatthefux.com/?p=128
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#53 Regian

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 04:26 AM

Good show guys.

I'm just going to come out and say it, even though I enjoy him on the CAGCast. But Shipwreck is like the Cousin Oliver of the CAGCast. :D
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#54 goomba478

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 04:43 AM

CheapyD, I think it's definitely your theater ... I've seen 3D movies in some theaters in my state and they also have the darker glasses. The IMAX 3D theater that I saw Avatar in though had crystal clear plastic glasses and they didn't distort the color in the slightest. Glad you liked it though and it's good to hear that it's popular in Japan =) I think it's going to hit 2 Billion dollars by the end of its run. Sure seems like it will anyhow.

#55 gunstar808

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 04:43 AM

Great show, I especially loved all the Avatar boob talk. Glad to know I wasn't the only one that focused a little too much on that!

Great show as usual. A couple of things bugged me though:

2) English Fatal Frame for the Wii does not require a hack, a jailbreak, harddrive, whatever--its a patch you put on an SD card, and it modifies the game, like any game that allows you to play your own music with it. Its not a hack, and it uses any old SD card that you can use with a Wii for your gamesaves and does not require any Wii modification.



Question about this, while the patch itself doesn't require a mod of any kind... how do I boot the Japanese game? Say for Avg Joe with a US Wii console, he can't just buy Zero from playasia, download the patch and play can he?

I haven't looked into Wii mods/boot disks or anything of the sort yet, but this game (w/patch) has me interested. Anyone wanna shoot me a PM on what I would need? I got a import store down the street I could grab the game from.

ALSO, how is the [DEAD] TRU deal with Bayonetta, Darksiders etc a B1G1???
I mean if you bought 2 games, and got a $60 GC isn't that closer to a B2G1? You spent over $120 there soo...

#56 ianoid

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 06:11 AM

Army of Two and Kane and Lynch aren't the same game? I guess I learn something new every day.

I don't want to give the comments thread too much credit, but Shipwreck has become an indispensible part of the show. I am really enjoying the 3 way. Best to keep it to 3. I strongly dislike other game podcasts in part because there are too many guys and I can't keep track of their personalities. At least you 3 have distinctly different voices.

The Cagcast is getting funnier. Keep up the good work.

The wrong direction would be more live shows. It's not the concept of 'live' that is the issue. It's that you mostly have a bunch of horrific 14 year old callers, the only demographic available to sit on skype or whatever and wait for you. If you can't tear them to shreds comically, they are an absolute bore. The special guest callers are fun. I listen to the CAGcast for the banter, not the callers.

I'm amazed the show isn't more popular. I think it's only getting better.

A Wombat complaint. Wombat has a lot of good stories and is getting funnier. But I would still request some filters. Pick what will be interesting to tell us about, don't just tell us about anything. I think with Ship on the 'cast, you have less time and you are forced to choose the better stuff to tell us about. But with Shitwreck chasing his balls down the hall, there is more time to ramble. I also think Wombat should do sound effects during the show. Even if it's just his Mario keychain. Better yet, get 10 video game sample sounds to play and dazzle us.

Ok, a serious type question. Do you guys ever feel stressed to play games and to play new games? I feel a bit stressed having too many modern games to play and not enough time to play them. What was the last game(s) you had but didn't have the chance to play for more than a month after you bought it? Or a game you bought and then got rid of before you had the chance to play it?

And one last thing. I bought my first Malt-O-Meal cereal at Big Lots yesterday because of you guys. It's pretty good stuff.

Make it two last things. Playstation Farce, as in may the farce be with you. Or the Playstation Won't. As in won't be as successful as the Wii. Or the Playstation buttplugs. Or the Playstation Ass Cream Cones, or shitcones for short.

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#57 FriskyTanuki

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 07:10 AM

There is a wide variety of PSP pricing depending on what the game is and where it's coming out, though I think the amount of $40 games needs to drastically drop to just the AAA IP's at most. The shitty market for PSP games should've made it obvious that continuing to ask for $40 is just asking for bad sales even if piracy wasn't a factor.

$20 games do come out on occasion (Patapon 2, Loco Roco 2), but it tends to be some of the niche games like that while others tend to be $40 because their publishers are complete idiots. The stuff on PSN tends to be $20 or less with Minis at $9.99 or less and the normal PSN games from $5 to $20, so there are quite a few cheap games on there. You could make the argument that you were talking about retail PSP games, but then that clashes with the all-digital marketplace that is the App Store that doesn't have a retail presence.

With the App Store being so competitive, it's brought the barrier for pricing there to compete way lower than it is on the DS or PSP. I don't know if Chinatown Wars features special touch controls or if it uses on-screen buttons that usually play like shit, but that leads me to believe that PSP and DS owners of the game can be happy that they get a version that they can rely on to be playable.

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#58 rogueweapon

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 11:12 AM

The Army of 2 story was the best. That franchise blows, Wombat needs to chill. It's like worrying about the way the story unfolds in 50 cent Blood in the Sand. The 1st game was so mediocre it soured me on any future iterations, plus the characters and story fockin sucked. Can you pick up enemy guns in the sequel?
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#59 canestim

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 05:25 PM

One of the best names for the CAGCast yet. Keep it up guys.

#60 Z_meista

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 12:31 AM

Good show guys. As for Cheapy, you probably ate something during the day (during the last 6-8 hours) that made you puke. Gotta agree with Wombat about those 3D TVs. Those 3D glasses are a pain.