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#1741 Righteous Nixon

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 02:33 PM

You bring up some very good points, but trying to assert (or at least, that's what I think you're doing) your opinion as universal for most people weakens your argument. I agree that CEs should have more quality behind them, as long as the price is within reasonable amounts (take the Resident Evil 6 premium edition for Japan that includes a replica of Leon's jacket for a whopping 105,000 yen/$1300; no way you won't have buyer's remorse after getting this). Even then, not all collectables, no matter their quality, would appeal to all people. The super premium for the US Disgaea 4, to cite an example, included a set of 9 trading figures, while the JP version received a single nendoroid figure (of higher quality). In this case, who's to say which version is superior? Inclusion of specific goods for the CEs are subjective in taste, and whether one desires quantity over quality (in which case, a true collector would buy both).


I never said that my opinion was universal for most people or anything even close to that statement. In fact, the VAST majority of people would probably disagree. I was speaking specifically about people that are into the high end collectible market, which is actually a very small segment of the population, at least when compared to the normal collectibles market, and I stand by what I said 100%. I have seen this discussion play out MANY times over the past couple of years, on many of the high end collectible forums like Sideshow's, and the results are always the same. You get a few people here and there that believe that each additional tier should contain the items for that tier plus all the items from the tiers below it but the VAST majority just care about the high end piece. They have no interest in the lower end items. Go and join Sideshow's forums and start up a discussion on this topic and see for yourself the kinds of responses you get. I will even chime in to help get it started.

I started collecting back in 1995. It was actually the creation of Sideshow Collectibles back in 1994 that got me interested in the market. If there is one thing I have learned over the last 15+ years in this market its this, the more interest people have in the high end market, the less interest they have in the lower end markets. In other words, the more people buy in the high end market, the less they buy in the lower end markets. The 2 markets are actually rather distinct and separate from one another, at least in regards to the people collecting the pieces and its usually the amount of disposable income that one has that separates the two. If people can afford to buy higher end collectibles, they usually do. It sounds a bit snobbish but in my experience with the market, that's exactly how things play out. I also know many collectors and dealers first hand and its the same story with most of them as well. I will admit that one of my good friends defies this sort of separation of markets. He collects everything under the sun. It doesn't matter what the quality is or how much its worth. If its a particular subject matter then he buys it.

So to sum this up, I wasn't suggesting that my opinion was universal and I certainly wasn't suggesting that I know what everyone's opinion on this matter is and that everyone agrees with me. I was simply speaking from my experience with the market and in that regard...well, I will simply say this - I think MOST high end collectors, that have an interest in seeing true high end pieces in the videogame CE market, have very little interest in the lower end collectibles that we usually see released with special edition games. Again everything I have seen in the last 15+ years with this market tells me that statement is unequivocally true. Your certainly entitled to disagree and if that is the case then we will just agree to disagree. Again, I respect that people have different opinions, even if i disagree wholeheartedly with what they are saying.

Not to mention if you collect a large number of series it's hard enough to keep up on CEs as it is. Saying that they should be super spendy and 'premium' is madness!


Try properly reading a thread next time, it helps considerably. First off, I never said anything about replacing regular special editions with "super spendy releases", as you so eloquently put it. I am talking about multiple tiers of CE's, which is exactly what we have seen thus far when certain developers wanted to create a higher quality CE. 2nd, I never said anything about releasing these sorts of high end collectors editions for each and every game released. In fact, I was specifically talking about the major releases, titles like Bioshock, Borderlands, Halo, Mass Effect etc... I could honestly care less what they do with the other 85% of the games released. I just want high end releases for the major titles and thats exactly in line with what we have seen thus far, in regards to the progression we have seen thus far with these sorts of releases. The big titles get them and the smaller ones don't. In all honesty, this shouldnt even have to be spelled out for someone. Its simply common sense.

As for the it being madness part....well, I guess some people just don't realize the amount of growth the high end market has seen in recent years. Just hop on over to Sideshow and look at the sheer number of items available now, most of which are above the 250.00 mark, some considerably so. This is in direct response to the growth of the market. Now look at the other 15+ high end companies making products these days (Weta, Triforce, NECA, CS Moore, Museum Replicas, QMX, etc.) If you honestly think "super spendy" CE releases for major video game titles wouldn't sell then you don't know this market anywhere near as well as you think you do. With edition sizes of 500-5000 I guarantee each and every one would sell out in a heartbeat. That is of course if they design something worthwhile. If they create crappy items then all bets are off.

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 03:01 PM

Since I don't have the disposable income (college student) to acquire experience in the field, I'll take your word for it. I do, however, occasionally collect figures from JP, so I know a little bit about the high end market you're referring to.

I just don't think a true collector would ignore the items within the lower tier, since a collector accumulates every trinket or merchandise associated with their interest, regardless of quality (and especially since they have huge amounts of disposable income). Either way, while we may not have seen eye to eye, this has been an enlightening discussion.

Back on topic, already preordered Agarest 2 LE


#1743 Zaku77

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 03:37 PM

Try properly reading a thread next time, it helps considerably. First off, I never said anything about replacing regular special editions with "super spendy releases", as you so eloquently put it. I am talking about multiple tiers of CE's, which is exactly what we have seen thus far when certain developers wanted to create a higher quality CE. 2nd, I never said anything about releasing these sorts of high end collectors editions for each and every game released. In fact, I was specifically talking about the major releases, titles like Bioshock, Borderlands, Halo, Mass Effect etc... I could honestly care less what they do with the other 85% of the games released. I just want high end releases for the major titles and thats exactly in line with what we have seen thus far, in regards to the progression we have seen thus far with these sorts of releases. The big titles get them and the smaller ones don't. In all honesty, this shouldnt even have to be spelled out for someone. Its simply common sense.

As for the it being madness part....well, I guess some people just don't realize the amount of growth the high end market has seen in recent years. Just hop on over to Sideshow and look at the sheer number of items available now, most of which are above the 250.00 mark, some considerably so. This is in direct response to the growth of the market. Now look at the other 15+ high end companies making products these days (Weta, Triforce, NECA, CS Moore, Museum Replicas, QMX, etc.) If you honestly think "super spendy" CE releases for major video game titles wouldn't sell then you don't know this market anywhere near as well as you think you do. With edition sizes of 500-5000 I guarantee each and every one would sell out in a heartbeat. That is of course if they design something worthwhile. If they create crappy items then all bets are off.



I would love to properly read your posts, if only they weren't as long as an average chapter in a book. I know it's not speaking per say, but you must be in love with the sound of your own voice. My reply wasn't rude or antagonistic in the slightest, and yet you come back with an indignant speech. I think a blog is the better place for you...

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#1744 NolbertoS

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 04:09 PM

Record of Agarest War 2 Limited Edition

Is now listed on Amazon for $59.99. Comes with:

-blow up character doll
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In for the blow up doll..oh wait..err..wrong thread :p...damn..why is this not on the Xbox360?? I have both Agarest and Agarest zero for 360.
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#1745 HakaHina

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 04:57 PM

In for the blow up doll..oh wait..err..wrong thread :p...damn..why is this not on the Xbox360?? I have both Agarest and Agarest zero for 360.


There originally wasn't a 360 version in JP, so localization can't magically create one. They only have the PS3 since that was the only port available.
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#1746 Righteous Nixon

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 07:08 PM

I would love to properly read your posts, if only they weren't as long as an average chapter in a book. I know it's not speaking per say, but you must be in love with the sound of your own voice. My reply wasn't rude or antagonistic in the slightest, and yet you come back with an indignant speech. I think a blog is the better place for you...


Then don't read them. Its really that simple. Its always amusing to see people bitch and moan about posts when all they have to do is ignore them. Its one of the one true mind boggling aspects to internet forums. Its like people pretend they have absolutely no control over what they read. If someone makes a post, they simply have to read it, lol. As for the rest of your post, I never said your reply was rude or antagonistic. It was just completely 100% unneeded as nothing you said had anything to do with what I was saying.

Of course, nobody forced you to reply to any of my posts either but that's just another one of the mind boggling aspects to internet forums. People not only complain about posts that they can easily ignore, they also reply to them. I just don't get it and probably never will. Oh well, life goes on.


Since I don't have the disposable income (college student) to acquire experience in the field, I'll take your word for it. I do, however, occasionally collect figures from JP, so I know a little bit about the high end market you're referring to.

I just don't think a true collector would ignore the items within the lower tier, since a collector accumulates every trinket or merchandise associated with their interest, regardless of quality (and especially since they have huge amounts of disposable income). Either way, while we may not have seen eye to eye, this has been an enlightening discussion.


I was so broke in my college days I literally lived on rice, noodles and the occasional stick of beef jerky. My cats ate better than I did. Every extra penny I had went into photography gear and that continued on for the first 3 years after I graduated. College is rough on the collecting budget.

As for the collecting, I actually think its a progression. People start out collecting everything and then as time goes on they get more picky about what they collect. And as people get older and get bigger paychecks, they start buying the more expensive items. Once those people get used to the craftsmanship and quality of the higher end pieces....well, it gets more and more difficult buying the cheap stuff as it just isn't as satisfying. At least that's my theory on the whole thing and for the most part, that is what happened with me. I still collect some of the lower and mid ranged stuff from time to time but I would much rather save my money and put it towards something really cool. Of course, the best part about the higher end stuff is you can get your money back out if you need to. In fact, you can make a nice profit with the right items. A lot of the high end stuff appreciates in value as time goes on. That just isn't the case with most of the stuff in the lower end markets.

Anyways, you should check out the new SyFy show called Hollywood Treasure if your interested in high end collectibles. Its actually a really interesting show if your into that kind of stuff. There are 5 full episodes that you can view for free right from SyFy's website. Here is the description from SyFy:

Get an inside view from the life of Joe Maddalena, owner of Profiles in History and the world's largest auctioneer of original movie, television and pop culture relics.

Hollywood Treasure, follows Joe as he navigates his way through the intricate world of collecting showbiz and pop culture memorabilia: from the Wicked Witch of the West hat and the vintage Chitty Chitty Bang Bang car to Mary Poppins' carpet bag and other unforgettable props and costumes.

Each week, you'll travel the globe with Joe and his crew as they search for the most compelling, rare, and sought-after Hollywood memorabilia. A true adventure seeker, Joe tracks leads that send him to a variety of unlikely places— like combing through dusty basements and attics or meeting with world-renowned celebrities to peruse through their personal keepsakes.


Edited by Righteous Nixon, 03 May 2012 - 07:53 PM.


#1747 lpj8

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 11:59 PM

The Darksiders II Collector's Edition is sold out at Amazon and Gamestop already, and still a month from launch. I imagine it should become available closer to launch?


#1748 Zaku77

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 01:27 AM

[quote name='Righteous Nixon']Then don't read them. Its really that simple. Its always amusing to see people bitch and moan about posts when all they have to do is ignore them. Its one of the one true mind boggling aspects to internet forums. Its like people pretend they have absolutely no control over what they read. If someone makes a post, they simply have to read it, lol. As for the rest of your post, I never said your reply was rude or antagonistic. It was just completely 100% unneeded as nothing you said had anything to do with what I was saying.

Of course, nobody forced you to reply to any of my posts either but that's just another one of the mind boggling aspects to internet forums. People not only complain about posts that they can easily ignore, they also reply to them. I just don't get it and probably never will. Oh well, life goes on.


You do realize that in your previous reply you specifically made mention to 'properly reading the thread', don't you? I realize this gave you a reason to type even more drivel, but it was actually uncalled for this time. I chose to respond to you after choosing to read a thread on a website I choose to visit. It's as simple as that. Please just go start a blog. You seem to have a lot to 'say', and you have an extremely long winded way of going about doing it. It's best to talk at people (ie a blog) when that is how you choose to carry on.

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#1749 Asgardian

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 03:12 AM

...I am talking about a 300+ dollar price point and limiting them to 500-5000 copies...


I read most of your posts in the last couple of pages, interesting points. However, when I came across the statement above it just didn't make sense.

500 * $300 = $150k

While I can totally see a few hundred people crazy enough to pay $300 for a little toy replica of their favorite game - no matter how high quality, it is still just a toy, right? However, $150k minus cost hardly seem enough of a profit for most company to even bother with, especially if you are talking about a major game company.

On the other hand, if you start making thousands of these collectors item, is the market still big enough?

Now imagine the cost of making a soundtrack CD and selling your game just $5 more. Multiply that by 100k copies, does that not make sense now?

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#1750 SgtWiggles

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 03:18 AM

Ah crap, Agarest 2 is PS3 only? Now i have to go and buy Agarest Zero for PS3 <_<. (Already have the first from a Gameshare though, but i had both on 360)

Kinda annoys me they keep switching it <_<. Especially since the PS3 got shafted out of getting the first game in disc form
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#1751 technicalstylez

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 03:29 AM

righteousnixon-
copy and paste your recent posts and email them to the game publishers that you would want to provide said rare items. i get what your saying and understand the market for such high end collectables, but ranting about them here, in a forum called Cheap Ass Gamer, is not gonna make your dream come true any sooner.
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#1752 bojay1997

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 03:47 AM

I agree. The reality is that publishers see little value in doing truly limited edition packages. EA obviously didn't decide to do it again after the first Dead Space and Studio 38 is hovering on bankruptcy if the reports today are to be believed, so they obviously didn't make tons of profit on the actually limited edition release they did. The whole concept of limited or collector's editions in video games is to get people who might wait a while to buy a new game at a discount to buy it at launch at MSRP. Ideally, they would like to sell as many as possible without having leftovers at retail. That model doesn't work when they manufacture truly limited runs of expensive collector's editions. Publishers are making literally millions off of "limited" and "collector's" editions on bigger games and they have no interest in making a few hundred thousand dollars on a very niche market that actually costs far more to produce and manufacture for.

I read most of your posts in the last couple of pages, interesting points. However, when I came across the statement above it just didn't make sense.

500 * $300 = $150k

While I can totally see a few hundred people crazy enough to pay $300 for a little toy replica of their favorite game - no matter how high quality, it is still just a toy, right? However, $150k minus cost hardly seem enough of a profit for most company to even bother with, especially if you are talking about a major game company.

On the other hand, if you start making thousands of these collectors item, is the market still big enough?

Now imagine the cost of making a soundtrack CD and selling your game just $5 more. Multiply that by 100k copies, does that not make sense now?

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#1753 Silence4520

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 04:04 AM

any places that have or will have diablo 3 collectors edition instock? over the next few days?

#1754 chicagocubsfan

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 04:15 PM

Halo 4 Limited Edition Announced
Limited Edition Contents
War Games Map Packs: The Limited Edition includes access to nine maps - three future competitive multiplayer map packs, each including three locations, available for download post-launch on Xbox LIVE.
Specializations: Receive early access to six Specializations, available at launch on Xbox LIVE, and use them, one at a time, to achieve higher ranks in your Spartan career. In addition to gaining access to new ranks, Specializations unlock new customization options.
The Special Edition of Halo 4: Forward Unto Dawn, a 90-minute extended version of the live-action digital series which will take fans back to the terrifying beginning of the Human/Covenant war, when the Master Chief inspired a young cadet who would eventually become a leader aboard the UNSC's greatest vessel ever: the UNSC Infinity.
Digital content also included:
┬░ Bonus in-fiction bonus content expanding the characters and stories of Halo 4: Forward Unto Dawn and their connections to Halo 4
┬░ Special Featurette: Bringing Gaming into Reality
┬░ Making of Halo 4: Forward Unto Dawn
Bonus digital content through Xbox LIVE:
Unique in-game Spartan IV armor skin
Unique in-game weapon skin for the Assault Rifle
An exclusive in-game emblem
Xbox LIVE Avatar prop*
Xbox LIVE Avatar Spartan IV armor set*
The Limited Edition also contains the UNSC Infinity Briefing Packet which includes a Spartan armor customization schematic, an introduction to the massive ship UNSC Infinity, and insight into what it means to be one of humanity's finest warriors: The Spartan IVs.
$99.99 @Gamestop

http://www.gamestop....-edition/102028

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#1755 bojay1997

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 04:22 PM

Am I missing something or is the limited content all digital? I see some type of steelbook and vinyl(?) folder pictured, but it's not mentioned at all in the description.

Halo 4 Limited Edition Announced
Limited Edition Contents
War Games Map Packs: The Limited Edition includes access to nine maps - three future competitive multiplayer map packs, each including three locations, available for download post-launch on Xbox LIVE.
Specializations: Receive early access to six Specializations, available at launch on Xbox LIVE, and use them, one at a time, to achieve higher ranks in your Spartan career. In addition to gaining access to new ranks, Specializations unlock new customization options.
The Special Edition of Halo 4: Forward Unto Dawn, a 90-minute extended version of the live-action digital series which will take fans back to the terrifying beginning of the Human/Covenant war, when the Master Chief inspired a young cadet who would eventually become a leader aboard the UNSC's greatest vessel ever: the UNSC Infinity.
Digital content also included:
┬░ Bonus in-fiction bonus content expanding the characters and stories of Halo 4: Forward Unto Dawn and their connections to Halo 4
┬░ Special Featurette: Bringing Gaming into Reality
┬░ Making of Halo 4: Forward Unto Dawn
Bonus digital content through Xbox LIVE:
Unique in-game Spartan IV armor skin
Unique in-game weapon skin for the Assault Rifle
An exclusive in-game emblem
Xbox LIVE Avatar prop*
Xbox LIVE Avatar Spartan IV armor set*
The Limited Edition also contains the UNSC Infinity Briefing Packet which includes a Spartan armor customization schematic, an introduction to the massive ship UNSC Infinity, and insight into what it means to be one of humanity's finest warriors: The Spartan IVs.
$99.99 @Gamestop

http://www.gamestop....-edition/102028



#1756 6er

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 04:48 PM

Looks interesting, a LOT of content. Yet it releases a few days after the due date of my twins. I think, maybe, I could be too busy to.enjoy it.

#1757 Jodou

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any places that have or will have diablo 3 collectors edition instock? over the next few days?

Check GS or BB tomorrow-ish since the 48 hold on pre-orders will have lapsed. Call stores now to see if anyone canceled as well. This one is surprisingly rare for a Blizzard release, as all my stores only got their allocation and nothing more.

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 05:54 PM

Kingdom Hearts 3D Dream Drop Distance Collectors Edition Announced

The Mark of Mastery Edition will mark the very first Kingdom Hearts collector's set released in North America. It will include a copy of the game, a branded hard case 3DS skin cover and 12 art cards, all housed in a Kingdom Hearts-branded magnetic box. It will also come with five AR cards, allowing players to unlock Dream Eaters such as Meowjesty, Frootz Cat and Kab Kannon, as well as a viewing stand.

Retails for $54.99 http://www.ign.com/a...ition-announced

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#1759 kitsunisan

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 07:52 PM

Looks interesting, a LOT of content. Yet it releases a few days after the due date of my twins. I think, maybe, I could be too busy to.enjoy it.


You need to get your priorities straight.
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#1760 barrit

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 07:56 PM

I'm assuming this thread is for the US releases only, but if anyone is interested, the UK is getting a SE for Tales of Graces f

http://www.siliconer...pecial-edition/

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EDIT AGAIN: Apparently they are calling this a Day 1 edition, so it's a SE in a different sense I suppose.

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#1761 RabbitSuit

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 07:59 PM

Not a good day for my wallet. Dream Drop, Halo 4 and now an import I have to consider...


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#1762 AFC

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 08:05 PM

Why does the US always get shafted for CE's? I really hate the hassle of importing, but I might have to consider it for Tales...

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 08:08 PM

Probably because we tend to pay less for ours and stores don't enjoy stocking them on their shelves. But who knows.


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#1764 Zaku77

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 08:18 PM

Great, now I get to import a game I already own lol. Not even a question of whether I'll get this or not. As soon as 365 puts this up for pre-order I'm jumping on it!

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 08:21 PM

Went ahead and preordered Halo 4 CE. Can't wait.

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#1766 kitsunisan

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 08:36 PM

i'm assuming this thread is for the us releases only, but if anyone is interested, the uk is getting a se for tales of graces f

http://www.siliconer...pecial-edition/

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 08:36 PM

Looks like I'll be preordering Agarest 2 L.E. at Gamestop. Also wish it was on 360 too as that's what I have Agarest and Agarest Zero on.

That Tales of Graces F looks nice too. glad I haven't bought the standard U.S. one yet. May have to get it.

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 08:49 PM

Just a heads up, Atelier Meruru limited edition is close to selling out according to here, so if you are still trying to decide whether to order one or not, order now and think later.

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 08:54 PM

Just a heads up, Atelier Meruru limited edition is close to selling out according to here, so if you are still trying to decide whether to order one or not, order now and think later.


Thanks for the heads up! I've been pondering this for a while and checked this morning when it was still in the orange so I let it wait ... Looks like you just made up my mind for me!

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 10:17 PM

So there will not be a Legendary Edition for Halo 4:

http://halo.xbox.com...etin-51612.aspx