You bring up some very good points, but trying to assert (or at least, that's what I think you're doing) your opinion as universal for most people weakens your argument. I agree that CEs should have more quality behind them, as long as the price is within reasonable amounts (take the Resident Evil 6 premium edition for Japan that includes a replica of Leon's jacket for a whopping 105,000 yen/$1300; no way you won't have buyer's remorse after getting this). Even then, not all collectables, no matter their quality, would appeal to all people. The super premium for the US Disgaea 4, to cite an example, included a set of 9 trading figures, while the JP version received a single nendoroid figure (of higher quality). In this case, who's to say which version is superior? Inclusion of specific goods for the CEs are subjective in taste, and whether one desires quantity over quality (in which case, a true collector would buy both).
I never said that my opinion was universal for most people or anything even close to that statement. In fact, the VAST majority of people would probably disagree. I was speaking specifically about people that are into the high end collectible market, which is actually a very small segment of the population, at least when compared to the normal collectibles market, and I stand by what I said 100%. I have seen this discussion play out MANY times over the past couple of years, on many of the high end collectible forums like Sideshow's, and the results are always the same. You get a few people here and there that believe that each additional tier should contain the items for that tier plus all the items from the tiers below it but the VAST majority just care about the high end piece. They have no interest in the lower end items. Go and join Sideshow's forums and start up a discussion on this topic and see for yourself the kinds of responses you get. I will even chime in to help get it started.
I started collecting back in 1995. It was actually the creation of Sideshow Collectibles back in 1994 that got me interested in the market. If there is one thing I have learned over the last 15+ years in this market its this, the more interest people have in the high end market, the less interest they have in the lower end markets. In other words, the more people buy in the high end market, the less they buy in the lower end markets. The 2 markets are actually rather distinct and separate from one another, at least in regards to the people collecting the pieces and its usually the amount of disposable income that one has that separates the two. If people can afford to buy higher end collectibles, they usually do. It sounds a bit snobbish but in my experience with the market, that's exactly how things play out. I also know many collectors and dealers first hand and its the same story with most of them as well. I will admit that one of my good friends defies this sort of separation of markets. He collects everything under the sun. It doesn't matter what the quality is or how much its worth. If its a particular subject matter then he buys it.
So to sum this up, I wasn't suggesting that my opinion was universal and I certainly wasn't suggesting that I know what everyone's opinion on this matter is and that everyone agrees with me. I was simply speaking from my experience with the market and in that regard...well, I will simply say this - I think MOST high end collectors, that have an interest in seeing true high end pieces in the videogame CE market, have very little interest in the lower end collectibles that we usually see released with special edition games. Again everything I have seen in the last 15+ years with this market tells me that statement is unequivocally true. Your certainly entitled to disagree and if that is the case then we will just agree to disagree. Again, I respect that people have different opinions, even if i disagree wholeheartedly with what they are saying.
Not to mention if you collect a large number of series it's hard enough to keep up on CEs as it is. Saying that they should be super spendy and 'premium' is madness!
Try properly reading a thread next time, it helps considerably. First off, I never said anything about replacing regular special editions with "super spendy releases", as you so eloquently put it. I am talking about multiple tiers of CE's, which is exactly what we have seen thus far when certain developers wanted to create a higher quality CE. 2nd, I never said anything about releasing these sorts of high end collectors editions for each and every game released. In fact, I was specifically talking about the major releases, titles like Bioshock, Borderlands, Halo, Mass Effect etc... I could honestly care less what they do with the other 85% of the games released. I just want high end releases for the major titles and thats exactly in line with what we have seen thus far, in regards to the progression we have seen thus far with these sorts of releases. The big titles get them and the smaller ones don't. In all honesty, this shouldnt even have to be spelled out for someone. Its simply common sense.
As for the it being madness part....well, I guess some people just don't realize the amount of growth the high end market has seen in recent years. Just hop on over to Sideshow and look at the sheer number of items available now, most of which are above the 250.00 mark, some considerably so. This is in direct response to the growth of the market. Now look at the other 15+ high end companies making products these days (Weta, Triforce, NECA, CS Moore, Museum Replicas, QMX, etc.) If you honestly think "super spendy" CE releases for major video game titles wouldn't sell then you don't know this market anywhere near as well as you think you do. With edition sizes of 500-5000 I guarantee each and every one would sell out in a heartbeat. That is of course if they design something worthwhile. If they create crappy items then all bets are off.
Edited by Righteous Nixon, 03 May 2012 - 03:20 PM.