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CAGcast #279: Reapers Gonna Reap


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#31 ebok007

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 02:35 PM

No talk of Tribes: Ascend makes me wonder if Cheapy has ditched the idea of getting a gaming PC - because if you are getting one Cheapy, now is the time, that jank released yesterday. I need to get out of work now so I can go biathloning (skiing and shooting, of course).

Vicarious Visions did the Jedi Outcast port for Xbox, I can only love them for that.

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#32 Backlash

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 03:25 PM

Ship, care to share your PRs with us? I also ran track and cross country (though I wasn't too great), so I'm curious.

#33 guardian_owl

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 03:32 PM

You actually have to work pretty hard to get the worst ending in Mass effect 2 (have to kill all your crew members off) and if you do, you cannot import that save game into ME3 since
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. For my 3rd playthrough of ME2 I planned out ahead of time how to kill off all but the bare minimum amount of crew members needed to create an importable ME3 save just to see how things play out differently in ME3.

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#34 shipwreck

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 05:49 PM

I don't think anyone who lowered the combat difficulty in ME3 should complain about how the weapons and upgrades "don't make a difference".

Of course they don't when you can zip around like a biotic god without consequence cause the enemy bullets are bubble-wrapped.


I'm playing on the default difficulty and I've died either 2 or 3 times max. I'm 30 hours in and still using the same armor and sniper rifle that I started the game with. I did upgrade the rifle to Level 5 and attached whatever accessories to it I found. At least on the default difficulty the upgrades and need to switch armor and weapons seems trivial to me. I've never felt compelled to upgrade or switch anything, but there aren't enough fish and models in the game to blow all my money so I just end up spending it on stuff I don't care about or use.
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#35 madcyantist

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 07:08 PM

Really enjoyed the podcast last night as I surrendered to a bubble bath. Although I don't appreciate the ME2 talk as I've only played the first (so far).

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 08:03 PM

Congrats to Shipwreck on the HOF. **brag** like him, I'm in my HS Hall of Fame for Cross Country/ Track. Although too bad you stopped, it would help with your chili-ass.

but I have to say to CheapyD. Running doesn't ruin your knees. It's been shown in many studies that runners have healthier joints and less arthritis than the general population. (of course the odd injury can occur )

edit: I have to also say..I'm curious to what kind of times you ran and what events. Please share if you feel the need.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 08:09 PM

I'm playing on the default difficulty and I've died either 2 or 3 times max. I'm 30 hours in and still using the same armor and sniper rifle that I started the game with. I did upgrade the rifle to Level 5 and attached whatever accessories to it I found. At least on the default difficulty the upgrades and need to switch armor and weapons seems trivial to me. I've never felt compelled to upgrade or switch anything, but there aren't enough fish and models in the game to blow all my money so I just end up spending it on stuff I don't care about or use.


Fair enough Shipwreck. I only remembered that Cheapy and Wombat both lowered the difficulty because they found it too hard - which makes their comments about weapons / upgrades kinda moot.

I mostly agree about not being compelled to switch weapons, but for me it's because it's hard to know what to upgrade to - I just keep putting it off.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:43 PM

Shout out to bickle, who keeps posting the SHOW NOTES every CAGcast!

This isn't aimed just at Wombat but he did mention embargo talk this CAGcast. Don't even mention that you can't talk about a game because of an embargo. Or instead of saying "I played a game but I can't saying anything because of embargo" say something like "Next CAGcast I've got a game to talk about". Emphasizing that you will talk about it in the next CAGcast and follow up. Don't say anything if the embargo will still be up during next CAGcast. 3 weeks+ just doesn't make a good connection, 1 week is pushing it. Personally embargoes are stupid, but teasing should be avoided.

Mass Effect promised a Trilogy that meant something of your choices, now I know it's not a movie and more complex, but I don't think they delivered on the wrap up. Imagine if The Lord of the Rings or Star Wars 4-6 had similar fates. You seriously don't think fans would have revolted? I'm sure they would have.

Great show albeit too short


#39 Paulbert7

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:11 PM

Great show guys, but I too felt that it was too short. It seems as if you're pushing through it to shorten the time, but it upsets the natural flow and chemistry that we have all come to know and love.

#40 Wombat

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:43 PM

Fair enough Shipwreck. I only remembered that Cheapy and Wombat both lowered the difficulty because they found it too hard - which makes their comments about weapons / upgrades kinda moot.

I mostly agree about not being compelled to switch weapons, but for me it's because it's hard to know what to upgrade to - I just keep putting it off.


I only changed the difficulty once during an early mission. I played 99% of the game on normal.

#41 bickle

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 11:37 PM

For my 3rd playthrough of ME2 I planned out ahead of time how to kill off all but the bare minimum amount of crew members needed to create an importable ME3 save just to see how things play out differently in ME3.


I'm impressed :D I tried to get the ending where
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but I just couldn't make it happen. Killed off a bunch of crew though. I hadn't planned things out, and I think that's pretty much necessary. But honestly I don't even know where to begin planning it. My strategy was just to complete as fast as possible, piss off as many people as possible, and make bad squad decisions at the end.

#42 Stewchu

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 02:26 AM

Cheapy

Your if you're into real heroes and real human beings was hilarious and I couldn't stop laughing. It was even funnier that Wombat and Shipwreck could not get the joke.

Good Cagcast

#43 dabates

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 03:36 AM

So is "Tai interrupts the Cagcast" going to be the new regular segment for the show?

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That was really funny. It will only work if Wombat and Shippy keep making fun of Papa as he blows off his kid (here Tai, here's a bag of glass to play with, okay pal?).

#44 Duck in a Pond

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 06:17 AM

Great show guys!

#45 Fjordson

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 10:17 AM

Great episode. Cheapy's Javik voice is the greatest thing ever.

Good on ya Shipwreck for getting it out there: Mass Effect 3 can be super boring. I'm honestly surprised it scored so highly. Not a bad game at all, and there are some missions that are certainly memorable, but it's disappointing as a whole.

And Wombat, bad is the correct term when describing the Mass Effect 3 ending. Bad, terrible, nonsensical, awful. Take your pick. It's almost amazing how close BioWare got to the finish line before shitting it all up and falling on their faces.

Also Ship, I think you mentioned this before, but are you planning on playing Witcher 2 on 360? Lots of positive buzz out there about it being a fantastic port. I'm so hyped to finally play it. Struggled through the first Witcher on my laptop last year and it was amazing.

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#46 Curufinwe

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 01:34 PM

Great episode. Cheapy's Javik voice is the greatest thing ever.

Good on ya Shipwreck for getting it out there: Mass Effect 3 can be super boring. I'm honestly surprised it scored so highly.


I'm not. Most of the press had their 9's and 10's ready before they even started playing the game. Here's one of the more obvious examples of a reviewer who blatantly ignores all of Mass Effect 3's faults.

http://www.theverge....effect-3-review

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#47 bickle

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 02:54 PM

That review was ridiculously bad. "Hope in Mass Effect 3 is the sharp edge of a knife, and BioWare wields that implement like a surgeon." /barf

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 02:59 PM

Hey guys, great show as usual. I can't wait for the Mass Effect 3 spoiler show next week. Just one thing, please Cheapy stop it with the Jamaican accent for Javik. The character is clearly speaking in an African accent and the voice actor (Ike Amadi) is from Nigeria. Here's his Voiceover Universe page as proof, http://www.voiceover...rofile/IkeAmadi. It's a small annoyance but Cheapy kept using it throughout the last 2 shows and will bring it up constantly next week. So Cheapy please stop, its like hearing someone pretend to be French by speaking in a Russian accent.

#49 Squidtech

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 07:04 PM

Guys, now that you have (hopefully) finished Mass Effect 3, you NEED to check out this video someone posted on YouTube. It explains an idea about the ending called in the Indoctrination Theory, that possibly gives clarity behind why the ending just didn't feel right. A LOT of the stuff this guy points out really seems to make sense.



Great show, keep it up! I'm extremely far behind, having just started listening to them a couple months ago from the very beginning...I need a life...lol

I second this. I came to post it as well.

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#50 itachiitachi

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 07:06 PM

Laughed as Wombat butchered my user name. Is it that hard? Bass-tones. like a bass guitar.

oh well. Pretty good show. Glad to hear feedback on Mass Effect 3. Can't wait for the spoiler discussion. Have you guys read up on the Indoctrination Theory? It's pretty interesting, and makes the ending tolerable. It's hard to believe it was intentional though. Check it out! *spoilers, obviously*

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I think it is an interesting theory also and would make for a better ending but it is still poorly executed and full of holes.
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I did any of the hosts romance tali? if so..
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As for then ending ruining the whole game this game is more about the story than the game play. A game you play for the action having a bad ending doesn't really matter, but a story having a bad ending kind of ruins the whole story(I don't think anyone would be fans of starwars, OOoT, Chrono trigger,a tale of two cities ect... if their ending where this bad) if I had known the ending was going to be this bad I would have never played any of the games and if someone has never played any of the games I would recommend they skip the whole series.

Forgive me if I have a little nuance to my worldview, and am not a black/white ideologue who can't grasp complexity.

 

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#51 PigheadedBobobo

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 07:09 PM

"That series has potential" Did CHeapy just say something not hateful about capcom?

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 08:05 PM

Screw it, just gonna spoiler the whole thing since its about the me3 ending.
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#53 Monsta Mack

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 11:57 PM

You guys forgot one party member that would be in your party even if you got the worst ME2 ending
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#54 usickenme

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 01:10 AM

So for 3 games the Reapers have been telling us that in the end, all of Sheppard's actions don't really matter and when it happens, everyone throws a giant hissing fit.

Thanks for paying attention.

Sorry a lack of rainbows ruins a game for you.

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 05:50 AM

We beatcha on a spoilercast by a week. :) http://www.cheapassg...log.php?b=23925

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#56 Dr. Treye

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 12:44 PM

Hey I forgot to put in my two cents when you guys were asking for feedback a couple of podcasts ago but here's my beef. You guys are irreverent, I get that. But sometimes you guys come across as out of touch with the rest of the world. Case in point, Prothy the Prothean is not Jamaican, he's nigerian and in no way sounds Jamaican. The fact that you guys don't know that is irritating beyond end. More annoying is that white guy does jamaican accent Cheapy keeps doing. By the way, black people listen to your show too, keep that in mind every once in awhile. Just my two cents.
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#57 RichMeisterMan

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 08:38 PM

I'm totally with Ship on the idea that ME2 was just so damned good and 3 is disappointing because it's just not as good.

Also you guys brought up Dragon Age II when talking about Bioware and ME3 and I think that's funny because you mentioned that DAII is pretty much loathed by all fans of anything Bioware. Thing is, what made everyone hate that game so much is a prominent part of ME3.

Dragon Age II felt like a rip because of the very limited areas you had to explore. The city was a rather boring central hub, areas were reused to a shameful degree, and over all it just felt like it wasn't put together with the love and care that their other games up to that point seemed to have.

In ME3 though all you have is the stupid citadel, I think though this is harder to latch onto perhaps because you are exploring an entire universe, constantly going through mass relays and whatnot, but the only places you visit other than the citadel are for missions. Just like DAII. Plus, the ending of the game seemed to steal all thunderous disdain from the other issues.

Also, I completely agree with Wombat about the citadel. That place becomes a total fucking chore. Half the time I have put into the game has been spent there just running around every square foot of that place making sure I over hear all the conversations I need to so that I can go on some bull shit fetch quest in some far off solar system. The citadel is a real cluster Fuck that I think serves as nothing more than cheap filler to supplement the main quest. The most disappointing thing though is the "check the block" interactions that you have with your squadmates from ME2.

My disgust with the game is fueled even more by the fact that I am playing on PC and I can't DL the free multiplayer DLC because when I click the "buy" button nothing happens. And also, the code redeem utility within origin doesn't work either so I can't even get my preorder bonuses.

Anyone else playing on PC have this issue?

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 02:52 AM

I'm playing on the default difficulty and I've died either 2 or 3 times max. I'm 30 hours in and still using the same armor and sniper rifle that I started the game with. I did upgrade the rifle to Level 5 and attached whatever accessories to it I found. At least on the default difficulty the upgrades and need to switch armor and weapons seems trivial to me. I've never felt compelled to upgrade or switch anything, but there aren't enough fish and models in the game to blow all my money so I just end up spending it on stuff I don't care about or use.


Plus the N7 armor from the collectors edition had better stats than any of the other armor sets. The only positive I see from messing with the armor would be if you were an all biotic player, you could choose armor pieces that greatly increase recharge time and weight. Otherwise, no reason to buy any armor except for the achievement.
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#59 zebwinz

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 03:04 AM

I'm not. Most of the press had their 9's and 10's ready before they even started playing the game. Here's one of the more obvious examples of a reviewer who blatantly ignores all of Mass Effect 3's faults.

http://www.theverge....effect-3-review


You must not have ever read or listened to any of Arthur Gies' opinions before. He's one of the most honest game "reporters" I've ever read. People complaining or being bored by the ending doesn't make any sense to me. My "ending" happened throughout the entire game. The quest with Wrex and Mordin? Great. Tali and Legion? Great. Miranda? OK but still badass. All of the Liara stuff? Romantic and great. Sacrifice at the end? For me? Great.

Sure going back to the Citadel was a chore. But if you hadn't gone back you would miss out on a fantastic sequence with Garrus and an amazing, insightful conversation with Jamaica...I mean Javik.
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#60 zebwinz

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 03:07 AM

Hey I forgot to put in my two cents when you guys were asking for feedback a couple of podcasts ago but here's my beef. You guys are irreverent, I get that. But sometimes you guys come across as out of touch with the rest of the world. Case in point, Prothy the Prothean is not Jamaican, he's nigerian and in no way sounds Jamaican. The fact that you guys don't know that is irritating beyond end. More annoying is that white guy does jamaican accent Cheapy keeps doing. By the way, black people listen to your show too, keep that in mind every once in awhile. Just my two cents.


Thanks for bringing that up! Although the way Cheapy does it, I think Arnold Schwarzenegger should be offended!
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