Ok, let's get into this. Why are you making the argument for this trade? I get that Hemingway is your brother (which honestly, doesn't make you a very impartial observer), but you shouldn't be the one explaining how the trade could go through. As the trade was proposed, none of that information was presented as a necessity for the trade to work. So, on its face value, the proposal that was presented WILL NOT work.
If the presented idea requires it to be a multi-part trade and that the Jets mangle their roster, cutting an additional $4 million of salary to make room for these players, then that needs to be a part of the proposal. Honestly, that's probably a bigger issue than the players involved in the trade. This is the first year we've had to deal with contracts in Madden, so these kinds of things never needed to be considered before. But in general, people don't just cut players from their team any time they feel like it. Some might see this as a means of circumventing the cap...so that's DEFINITELY something that needs community input.
As for player ratings, you're just being argumentative here. Stop. The format for presenting trades is listed in the OP. It's only reasonable for people to list the overall ratings as they would relate to our online franchise. Yes, that's different for each team, but how can someone judge a trade for Tom Brady if they don't realize that in the Jets CURRENT system, he's not as valuable? It's not a perfect system, but it's also the first time we've had to deal with players being valued differently.
Your comment of "I'm pretty sure everyone realizes trades can't be done/go through until the league starts." again...somewhat argumentative. You JUST got done instructing someone to PM me to get me to "send it through". I guess you feel comfortable enough to just tell people how things are and talk about how you think things should work, but try to recognize your place here. You're a new member. You're not a co-commissioner. You're not in charge of this league. Answering people's questions and then making me have to follow that up with an answer of my own just creates more work for me.
I appreciate your enthusiasm and your feedback, but please just tone it down a notch. I'm doing the best I can here, and all I've seen from you lately is argumentative comments and dissention. I've got the interests of 31 other people to try to protect here. If you think it's that simple and you could do a better job running a league, you're welcome to go do so.
First, my intention wasn't to specifically argue for or against the trade. It was to point out what i thought was incorrect in how you judged the trade. I feel like you worry too much about how each team is handling their cap, when the commish should just be making sure that the compensation is fair and leaving it up to each owner to make sure they comply with cap rules. Obviously, there are exceptions to that where say someone is trading 3 players that make 10 million plus dollars a year for draft picks and low 70 players and the compensation for both owners doesn't make sense. Then i feel you would need to step in and find out their motivations for this trade. However, in this trade compensation is even for both teams. As for this being my brothers trade, i honestly think it's stupid of him to do this trade and would be better for him if you canceled it out. I feel Brady/Hernadez is worth a more in madden than Revis/Hill and i would never want to take on Sanchez's contract because it restricts what you can actually do at the qb position. You can't go out and sign another one because then you'd be stuck with two huge contracts at one position.
Secondly, what i did was not mangling the Jets roster or trying to circumvent the cap by doing something outrageous. These are the players i cut to create enough cap room- Jordan White- 63 wr(440k), Patrick Turner-65 wr(860k), Tanner Purdum 46 te(400k), Konrad Reuland 58 te(390k), Hayden Smith 60 te(500 k), Nick Bellore 67 mlb(500k), Ricky Sapp 67 rolb(350k), Antonio Allen 65 ss(440k). Those cuts leave him with Holmes, Schillens, Gates, Kerley, D. Keller and Hernadez as receiving options. As well as Jeff Cumberland at Te. I also cut 1 mlb, 1 rolb and 1 ss. That leaves him with 4 mlb, 4 rolb and 4 safeties, having 5 at those positions would have been a waste and most of these players would be cut anyway.
I did not think i was being argumentative by simply pointing out that the scheme ratings are pretty much useless. Just because Brady is a 95 in one scheme and a 86 in another does not mean he will play differently. In game he will play exactly the same. If you want to change up your depth chart in game, you'll see that they even list that depth chart by the stock overall rating, not the scheme rating. If anything those ratings only matter if we planned on simming games, which i don't think anyone actually intends on doing.
Fourthly, i never thought i was commissioner. Sorry for being active in the forum and trying to give the guy the advice to PM you before he thinks it's ok to do anything. I wasn't telling him the trade would go through right when you gave him permission, it's pretty obvious you'd have to wait until were in a stage of the game where it would allow it. Sorry for trying to assist, i didn't tell him anything that was game breaking, just said to contact the commish.
Lastly, you say i have come across as argumentative. But throughout this entire thread you have come off as being condescending multiple times, acting as though being commissioner makes you better than the 31 other users and like your opinion is the only one that counts because you created the league. All i was trying to do is give a second opinion, i apologize if being vocal about having an opposing opinion of yourself has offended you.
Edited by Chetty12, 15 September 2012 - 10:49 PM.