FYI Upcoming deals will be posted soon, including pricing on the Alice Complete and Dragon Age Packs ($11.99 and $12.99 respectively pre-coupon, yes they will be added to the EC list).
See my previous post about thread derailment, also, please stop.
lol at Tony defending Mooby.
All in all, gonna mirror the sentiment. These deals are unimpressive. But since saying that without explaining oneself in detail is somehow "derailing" the thread, I'll explain it.
(Disclaimer: Mooby, you publicly ignored me--again--so I don't want to see you complaining about this post.
Keep me on your ignore list, old chap.)
So far, the BF/Winter/Publisher coupon sales were better than what we're seeing here. The only noteworthy sales going on are on relatively new games that are hitting relatively good prices. Examples being,
MP3 (Good price.)
TSW (Only a hit because the end of year bonuses somehow got extended.)
TWD (Good price, but with a developer who doesn't care about fixing a widespread save bug, not as appealing.)
NBA2K13 (Not a bad price, but it's a sports game that is getting closer to replacement, and is said to be much worse than past titles.)
DS2 Pack (Great price, but it's THQ, who is in the habit of almost PAYING you to take their stuff. It will be cheaper, soon.)
Dark Souls (Okay price, but it's a horrible port that is only made to be worthwhile on the PC with user mods that could get you banned from GFWL. I'm sorry, but that kills the value.)
Far Cry 3 (Good, but just a hair cheaper than Steam's price.)
So here I'm saying, yes, these are prices that don't simply deserve to be called total garbage. Just hopping on the thread and saying "This is all crap" could be called derailing, sure. Civilly stating one's disappointment in the deals is not, with or with out a wall of text (like this, lol) of reasoning. I don't understand why you'd consider that derailing, Tony, while an equally abrupt and useless "Deals are awesome" is not. Blind praise is just as useless as blind criticism. You're know marketing, I'm sure you don't need to be told this.
Anyways, back on point, this is a month of sales. Naturally some things are going to be worthwhile, like I pointed out above. That said, there are a lot of very weak and useless sales going on. A lot of them came about by annoying ways, too. For example, an American company, GameFly, had Mass Effect 3 DD for $12.99 (I think it was) during the publisher coupon event. You stated that you would not price match that price because it might conflict with a sale in January. Okay, that leads us all to believe that you're going to run the same price or better in January, not a worse price, which is what we're seeing now. That's extremely disappointing. Same thing happened with Syndicate, although it was a sillier situation where it would have been $0.09 after coupon. $5 on Syndicate is nothing new.
Further, I'm thinking that it feels like a bit of a slap in the face to customers when you have a higher price on something an entire year later. From what I'm hearing, the Dragon Age pack was $11.99 last January, while it's $12.99 now. An entire year later, and you're raising the price? That's not very cool. Is it a good price? Yes, but the fact that the price was raised such a long while later pretty much invalidates that, arguably on the principle of that matter.
Putting the crosshairs on the cheap games, there are some good prices. For example, Spec Ops and Darkness 2 for $2.50 each. That's cool, but is still a repeat and/or worse deal than what we saw in December. I grabbed the Crazy Action Pack for $5, and I'd say that that's a much better deal that Darkness 2 alone for $2.50. The Crazy Action Pack is still around, that's cool, but it's still just a repeat sale. Good price, don't get me wrong, but it's backwash, which you (Amazon) are doing more and more often lately. Amazon is quickly becoming the go to place for THQ deals, 2K deals, with a small amount of Ubi and WB thrown in, along with weak EA deals (can't really fault you there though, it's EA). Oh, and Paradox, lol. I'm sure a lot of the negative sentiment on this thread comes from people wanting for new deals, not the same ones over and over again, coming back for a dollar or two cheaper every so often.
From my personal perspective, I'm never going to be all that impressed with newish games like Far Cry 3, Dark Souls, TWD, etc for these prices, since I know it won't take a great deal of waiting to see them cheaper (though probably not so much for TWD), and a lot of them have technical issues that turn me off to them. I come to Amazon for two things that I think you guys typically do very well. I come to Amazon for 1. Bundles for great prices and separate keys, and 2. Older titles for rock bottom prices (although there are exceptions, like preordering BL2, buying TSW, KOA, etc). I'm not necessarily seeing either of these things in January, and that's influencing my criticism here.
I've been waiting for ages on certain things, like the Madden/NHL pack. They're ANCIENT games with zero developer support, and they've been at $4-5 over and over again. When I heard they'd be on the EC list, I was expecting something better than the $4 price tag again. If I was in the market for that THQ bundle (I'm not, since I have most of the games, but it would be a typical buy from me on Amazon), I'd be really disappointed. Why? It was $5 after coupon in December, and now it's $7 after coupon. Saint's Row 3? Considerably more expensive in January (although I know that's mostly because of a December price match). Alice pack? Just not a great price, as the first game has been on sale over and over again, and even at a $2.50 price. Even the "good" cheap game sales are just very uninspiring, like NFS The Run for a whopping $1 cheaper than it's been before. Yes, it is a good price, but beating previous sales by a hair on a very poorly reviewed game isn't going to turn heads.
And just for reference, here are some prices I would have caved in on (AFTER coupon prices):
Mass Effect 3 - $5-$7.50
Mass Effect 3 DD - $10-$12.50
Syndicate - $2.50 or less
Risen 2 - $5-$7.50
EA Classic Sports Pack - $3 or less OR just Madden for $2 (no need for NHL)
Sims 3 Starter Pack - $30 or less (it's a common sentiment for Sims players to see no value in "stuff packs")
XCOM - $15 (maybe, just spitballing numbers)
Mass Effect Trilogy - $15
TWD - $5
And of course I'd probably pick up any free games. *hint hint*
Anyways, I've gone on for way too long. TL;DR, the deals are not impressive and I've stated in depth reasoning behind this criticism. I've got my fireproof suit on, because you've amassed an army of fans and defenders, Tony, which is awesome, but admiration and "keep it ups" don't encourage progress. You know I love you to death man, but this is coming from a cheapass to a businessman. Keep it up, just keep it up a little better.