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#1 Malik112099

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 03:15 PM

I am once again on the job hunt. I know this has been discussed before but all I could find are old threads. I also feel a lot has changed in the job market the last few years. With minimum requirements for basic jobs starting to skyrocket I can understand the pressures causing people to just stay where they already are.

I don't want to stay where I am and have started the search (about 2 months in now). It is amazing how slow the process is and how incredibly hard it is to even get a call or interview. It is also discouraging to have to re-input all of your résumé info on each different company's website even though they have you upload it too.

That old saying "Its not what you know, it's who you know" seems to be ringing more and more true every day. Because of all this I thought I would start this thread for those of us searching for new careers/opportunities who seem to be facing an uphill battle. Please share your stories/tips/rants/raves/successes here and get a healthy place to discuss and vent about our situations.


Where I'm at:

2 months of solid looking/applying without a single call back. Actually had 1 phone interview scheduled and they never called. Revamped my résumé twice already due to paranoia. My resume is currently 2 pages long and I keep going back and forth about if I should cram it all into one page (thoughts?). My background is in aviation but I am currently employed by a company in a different industry. I thought the change would be good but I'm afraid I was wrong. So here I am looking to get back into what I know.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:44 PM

I left my last job of over 5 years back in September. I was tired of being a contract worker in danger of losing my job every 6 months (even though the job isn't going anywhere, it's the state, so lots of bullshit hoops to jump through). I'm now at a different state agency, thanks to a friend's reference (she knows the guy that hired me), but in totally over my head. I've only been here about 5 months, but the stress of not knowing what I'm doing is really getting to me, to the point that I'm ready to start looking again.

#3 Malik112099

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 07:07 PM

I had that "in over my head" feeling at my last job. Really sucks. I found a few people I could confide in and soon realized most of my coworkers had the same feeling. Made me feel better till I got traction and started really understanding what I was supposed to be doing.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:14 PM

What field were you in OP?

I find that I honestly can't find enough people to recommend/employee. There is a worker shortage in computer programming/computer science.



#5 Dead of Knight

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:27 PM

Get on LinkedIn with a full profile if you haven't already. My husband and I BOTH got our current jobs from recruiters directly contacting us on LinkedIn.
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 01:20 AM

Get on LinkedIn with a full profile if you haven't already. My husband and I BOTH got our current jobs from recruiters directly contacting us on LinkedIn.


I'm on LinkedIn with a full profile. I've been contacted by a few recruiters but no bites yet.



What field were you in OP?

I find that I honestly can't find enough people to recommend/employee. There is a worker shortage in computer programming/computer science.


My background is aviation/aerospace. I have a bachelors and 3 associates in aviation and I also have my A&P certificate. I spent 10 years in the Air Force and another 3 and a half with a major airline.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 01:24 AM

A few years ago I would have suggested actually going to the companies you wished to work at and hand off your resume in person and/or request an informational interview. However, my experience has shown me that this will annoy most medium to large companies. They will ask you to leave if you ask twice.

#8 Malik112099

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 03:46 AM

A few years ago I would have suggested actually going to the companies you wished to work at and hand off your resume in person and/or request an informational interview. However, my experience has shown me that this will annoy most medium to large companies. They will ask you to leave if you ask twice.


Yeah, most companies at job fairs these days won't even take a resume. They just tell you to go to the website and apply there. Shit like that makes me wonder why they are even at an event like that. Just put up a poster with the web address on it.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 03:52 AM

My wife has been looking for a while now and she just finished her 2nd Masters (Has her MBA and Masters in HR) and can't find ANYTHING. shes been to a few interviews,m but looses out to other with more experience. She's on LinkedIn and has had a few bites, but still nothing. Its gotten to the point where finances have become such an issue that we are splitting up (her choice.. not mine, but that's another rant entirely)

#10 Malik112099

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 02:26 PM

My wife has been looking for a while now and she just finished her 2nd Masters (Has her MBA and Masters in HR) and can't find ANYTHING. shes been to a few interviews,m but looses out to other with more experience. She's on LinkedIn and has had a few bites, but still nothing. Its gotten to the point where finances have become such an issue that we are splitting up (her choice.. not mine, but that's another rant entirely)


Sorry to hear that. It amazes me that as much as they say the economy is bouncing back and with all these jobs posted (there are a ton) that people still have trouble finding decent work at their skill/education level. It seems like the companies are all being super picky and know they can hold out for someone for bottom dollar and high skill set. I was reading an article the other day about how the Bachelor's degree is the new highschool diploma. Scary that entry level/low wage jobs require a 4 year degree just to get your foot in the door.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 04:16 PM

I'm debating whether or not to get a second undergrad in a more marketable field (computer science) versus pursuing secondary in a field I know isn't very marketable. :/


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#12 nixmahn

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 04:29 PM

My wife has been looking for a while now and she just finished her 2nd Masters (Has her MBA and Masters in HR) and can't find ANYTHING. shes been to a few interviews,m but looses out to other with more experience. She's on LinkedIn and has had a few bites, but still nothing. Its gotten to the point where finances have become such an issue that we are splitting up (her choice.. not mine, but that's another rant entirely)



HR? lol. I know HR people that can't even read a spreadsheet while I did them in highschiool in 1994. MBA is only good with lots of work experience in the right field or from a top 10 program, same as law degree I suppose.

Tell her to travel back in time and do an engineering degree instead.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 04:58 PM

To the original poster have you checked USA Jobs for federal jobs? With a military background you'll get a leg up on non-vets applying for the same position.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 05:14 PM

To the original poster have you checked USA Jobs for federal jobs? With a military background you'll get a leg up on non-vets applying for the same position.



If you go that route, you need to apply to all that you can and hope the sequester doesn't effect the job offer. I know for a fact that because of the sequester agencies have been in a rush to put in the job reqs ASAP before they are effected by the sequester so that making a job req isn't locked out. Once the sequester and cuts take effect, no one has planned for anything yet, the job/offer may not be available.

Cousin is looking and she tells me lots of private entry level positions are being switched to unpaid internships. There a few paid internships in the government but you have to be in the know as the recruitment windows are limited to a week or by # number of applicants, which ever is sooner. And thus job window applications are up for like 1 day only for paid internships.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 09:14 PM

Get on LinkedIn with a full profile if you haven't already. My husband and I BOTH got our current jobs from recruiters directly contacting us on LinkedIn.


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#16 Dead of Knight

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 09:43 PM

Did you post your picture?


Yes, though I am not sure how much that matters.
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#17 Dead of Knight

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 09:44 PM

I'm on LinkedIn with a full profile. I've been contacted by a few recruiters but no bites yet.


Take a look at their jobs board and apply to ones that look interesting. I've found that the interview ratio is much higher for when I apply directly to jobs posted on LinkedIn vs. on a company site.
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 10:07 PM

I'm on LinkedIn with a full profile. I've been contacted by a few recruiters but no bites yet.





My background is aviation/aerospace. I have a bachelors and 3 associates in aviation and I also have my A&P certificate. I spent 10 years in the Air Force and another 3 and a half with a major airline.


Maybe you should move out of OK, it may better serve your career choice. I have an uncle that works for Lockheed, that's pretty much all I know, he can't talk much about his work.

#19 Malik112099

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 10:59 PM

I am looking outside of OK. I'm looking mostly in OK and TX but am open to anywhere for the right position/pay/benefits/etc. I've used USAJobs before and still do. That site is set up so that you aren't even sure if you've even applied to the damn job yet.


Here's that article about entry level jobs for bachelor degrees.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 12:26 AM

Linkedin is great. I only get responses from regional and small companies when I apply from linkedin. For big companies, I go directly to their websites.

And I would totally go for the computer science degree. I'm planning to go for an accelerated computer engineering masters program myself. I went to business school since my family wanted me to go into finance. Interned at a hedge fund and didn't enjoy it at all...

#21 Mana Knight

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 12:32 AM

Get on LinkedIn with a full profile if you haven't already. My husband and I BOTH got our current jobs from recruiters directly contacting us on LinkedIn.

I agree. Recruiters contact me ALL the time on my LinkedIn. I'm constantly getting calls for jobs, but I'm employed right now.

Just keep searching, something will come up. The process can be long or quick, just gotta keep trying and keep your chin up.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 01:13 AM

I sent my resume in for an Architecture job (I'm a licensed Architect) and was told that they got over 70 resumes for the position.

I'm trying for a few things outside of design.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:06 AM

The thing to remember is that a lot of the jobs that were lost are not coming back. Knocking on the door of an established, large company may not be the best route to a good paying job anymore. I think Tom Leykis has a lot of good things to say about entrepreneurship and supporting each other's businesses.

Though I believe as automation takes hold, a negative income tax will be required to sustain this way of life, but I never want it to come to that. I have read an argument about how companies and the workers who are laid off due to automation would still be better off under a similar scenario, but I cannot find the book at the moment.

#24 2DMention

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:24 AM

I've been at it for a year and a half now, and aside from some short term temp jobs and a seasonal job, I've had no luck finding a job. I've gotten plenty of interviews, but there's just too many people looking.
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#25 Malik112099

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:56 PM

I've been at it for a year and a half now, and aside from some short term temp jobs and a seasonal job, I've had no luck finding a job. I've gotten plenty of interviews, but there's just too many people looking.



That's the way I feel about it too. If I'm applying then how many others are as well? It's not like I found a diamond in the rough. Also tons of companies use 3rd parties for the initial stages of hiring so if you don't fit what they want to a T then you are tossed to the wayside. Hiring managers used to see everything and could review your credentials and possibly go with someone who didn't have the cookie cutter fit.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 04:24 PM

Just shot my resume to a friend in Austin with a bunch of connections. The search continues!

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:40 PM

Interview this morning / Called for a second interview this afternoon (different job).

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 12:58 AM

I heard through the grapevine that I am getting let go tomorrow. It's not 100% for sure but the new boss is cutting throats all around it seems. I will report back with my status.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:02 AM

I mentioned some of my situation in the OTT thread, but I'm glad this thread was created to talk a little more about it.

I'm in the process of leaving my job in retail after 9 years. I suppose it is my fault for believing in the excuses that have been thrown at me (too many to mention in one post). Years of loyalty to them (I've never called out sick and only called out to go to my dad's funeral) and I'm rewarded with a demotion - basically the same position when I first started and [now] with even less work hours. This means less pay to the point where I don't know if I can even afford health insurance. It's a real shame because there are actually parts of the job I actually like (the vendors are some of the nicest people I've met). It's as if they are offended by my happiness and they want to see me suffer as a result (one past manager even used the phrase "I would rather see you fail").

I have six credits until I get my associate's degree; however, I don't know if it's worth completing if I don't even know what to pursue. I have ideas, but knowing me I'll be like "Oh this is too hard" and give up from low self-esteem.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:28 AM

@Malik112099 Too bad you aren't in an IT field - I might have had a few leads for you. I work in Tulsa, OK for a rather large energy company that has quite a few openings right now, even a few on the team I'm on. Company should be hiring around 900 (100 or so in IT) this year but it's mostly natural gas, liquids and associated positions. I used to know a few people at Spirit Aerosystems in town but they have all moved on.