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Poll: Would you purchase a Gamecube->Micro/GBA Link Cable at $25 shipped?

Would you purchase a Gamecube->Micro/GBA Link Cable at $25 shipped?

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#151 halbox252

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Posted 08 August 2006 - 04:22 AM

From one of the main electronics chains over here (Yodobashi) the micro link cable will cost you 1,260 yen which at todays rates is 10.94USD. They don't seem to have a huge stock in store, but their website is pretty good. Order enough of them (over 100 bucks worth) and shipping to my place would be free. Then there's the cost of getting them stateside. Not sure what that would be but if you're interested in getting a load sent over I could look into it.

But looking at the offical US Nintendo site they're coming in at 10 bucks (plus P&P), so don't think it'll be any cheaper doing it this way.

FYI, link to japanese page:
(http://www.yodobashi...9/48074591.html)

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#152 Troz1820

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Posted 08 August 2006 - 04:27 AM

Ah but the difference is that I can't order anymore from the US Nintendo site (limit 5 per person) so I'm tapped out. Of course, at that price and after shipping to the US I think the cost would be too high, but thanks for looking into it.

#153 halbox252

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Posted 08 August 2006 - 04:41 AM

5 per person?? wow... that's whacked....

If we get a dramatic shift in the exchange rate we may be in a better position. I'll hunt around a little to see if there's any at a "discount retailer" but that'll probably only save about a buck... I guess the official items are pretty well price fixed.

#154 bastard666

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Posted 08 August 2006 - 11:49 AM

Troz I've got your cable in my mail today. Excellent work! It works like a charme! Using GBmicro as GC Controller is awesome! Thank for your excellent work! Pleased to deal with you! ;)

#155 JimmyZ

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Posted 15 August 2006 - 03:55 AM

i got a GB Micro yesterday and found this page on the wiki...Great Work Troz!

damn Nintendo not releasing an offical GC2GBM Cable:bomb:

for the cables, i assume most of you do not know some facts in china where i'm living in, accessories sold here are mostly NOT licensed by nintendo, take the GC -> GBA Cable for example, i can get it at a price about 2~3USD from local dealers...

and the offical cables are incredibly expensive here, about 30USD, they are not offically launched by nintendo but by smuggle. yes smuggle not for low price but for products that can't got in legal way.


i'll get some cables this weekend and post the pictures here, see if i can get a chance to get it work with my precious pink GBM limited...so cheap, won't break my heart if i break the cable huh:D well, for the low price, it's quality is also poor...

sorry for my poor english, my native is chinese...

#156 JimmyZ

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Posted 15 August 2006 - 04:20 AM

just found sth interesting:

http://auction1.taob...2e.jhtml?p=1-11

this page is in chinese, it was a simple convertor, claimed allow all GBA/SP accessories to work on GB Micro @_@ i'll take one for a try, just 2USD...

much uglier than Troz's nyko version, but i don't have a choice... ship the cables to Troz for a modify will take me about 20USD here in china= =a

#157 UncleBob

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Posted 15 August 2006 - 04:37 AM

Hey, how much to get you to order an extra one for me and ship it to the US? That could be interesting.
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#158 JimmyZ

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Posted 15 August 2006 - 04:45 AM

just the ship will cost 20USD at least i think, and those unlicensed accessories are usaully at very low quality... i'm quite sure that you will not be satisfied with it.

why did not nintendo release such a product? the offical Game Link Cable Adapter is vice-versa and totally no use...hope some bigger 3rd-party accessory company(like HORI) will release such a product...

#159 UncleBob

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Posted 15 August 2006 - 05:02 AM

Ouch... $20 shipping for a $2 product... dang.
I'm familiar with the company name that is shown on the product and they usually make decent (not spectacular) quality accessories. In fact, I have their mobile monitor for my Game Cube, and it does a pretty decent job.

I've sent them an e-mail in hopes for more infomation on this particular product. If I find anything else out, I'll be sure to let everyone know.

As far as another company making something... I don't think any of the major US companies will, since the micro is about dead here... I dunno about overseas though.

I see that this product is on an auction site - does it say if the seller has multiples of them for sale? Perhaps, if there's enough interest, we could work something out where I (or someone) could import 20-ish of them and split the cost of shipping them into the US up a bit...
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#160 UncleBob

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Posted 15 August 2006 - 05:59 AM

JimmyZ - just wondering... Does that auction say anything about this item being homemade or such? It's doubtful, but I cannot seem to find *anything* about this product *anywhere*, including Intec's website.

Granted, that doesn't necessarly mean much of anything, but...
"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy, instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies it."

#161 JimmyZ

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Posted 15 August 2006 - 06:18 AM

i dunno :( i'm contacting with the seller, he says he didn't know this "thing" is compatible with GC-GBA cable or not, "should be", he said...

anyhow, i'll take a try, just 2USD haha:D

#162 Thowin

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Posted 15 August 2006 - 07:14 AM

Ah, I am bummed I just barely missed the e-bay auctions. I am trying to get my hands on enough GBAs and cables so that me and my room mates can play four swords and final fantasy.

I have zero experience in soldering, so this will be my first time...

Wish me luck! haha.

#163 JimmyZ

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Posted 17 August 2006 - 06:41 AM

got that convertor, but the shape of the shell is strange, i can't get it connected to the GC2GBA cable... i must get a saw to cut off a bit of the shell to get it connected i think...

#164 j0h0h0

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Posted 17 August 2006 - 10:15 AM

Troz1820 can you tell me wich wirecolor belongs to the wich pinnumber on the original gbm cable used with the nyko cable solution.

You can use the pinnumbers as used below when looking at the cable connector form above. (or is this not the official numbering)

__________
| 12345678 |
\_________/

#165 Troz1820

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Posted 18 August 2006 - 12:21 AM

I can't tell you which pinnumber belongs to what with the Nyko cable since I don't have anymore to check with. The first page of this thread has the color of each wire. Aside from that I can't help you.

I made this conversion chart which might be helpful for some:

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#166 halbox252

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Posted 19 August 2006 - 12:20 AM

Troz,

finally bought my cables and am trying my hand at soldering... got the wires hooked up to the gamecube adapter... but wondering about the microlink cable... am I ok to cut one side of the wire off??

and then which side do I need to solder the new wires onto? same side as the micro-plug? or on the other side of the chip? does the chip do anything?

Thanks...

#167 Thowin

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Posted 19 August 2006 - 12:37 AM

Agh, my micro cable has triwing screws, but I dont have a triwing screwdriver. I have checked all the local hardware stores and radio shack but none of them have them... :(

#168 j0h0h0

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Posted 20 August 2006 - 04:48 PM

Thanx Troz1820, and do the used colors in the chart compare to a specific cable.

#169 patters

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Posted 21 August 2006 - 06:55 PM

Since nobody seems to have listed the actual pin outs on the gameboy units - here is my diagram. I've successfully put a micro-style link plug on an F2A USB linker and can confirm it works fine:

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EDIT - Ah, seen Troz's post above. oops. I think it matches up so that's good.
EDIT2 - Hmm, it doesn't seem to match so I'm not sure Troz's diagram is correct. His info earlier in the thread certainly wasn't because I tried wiring it like that and it didn't work. Mine is definitely tested working, and what I'm describing here are the actual sockets on the Gameboy units, not some particular brand of cable. I managed to get the information from here but in my diagram I've labelled what each pin does rather than just showing an equivalence:
http://www.gamesx.co...matics:gbmtogba

#170 halbox252

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Posted 26 August 2006 - 02:39 PM

After a few false starts and a couple of mistakes, I managed to follow the instructions and bulit my own GMC/GBM cable... Works like a dream...

If a white-collar desk-jockey like me can do it, anyone can. Pretty basic stuff once someone's told you how to do it.

Troz, thanks for doing the ground work...

#171 banpeikun

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Posted 26 August 2006 - 06:58 PM

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#172 autoshoes

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Posted 27 September 2006 - 01:46 AM

Hi, another user here who found this thread and decided to make his own cable.

I just wanted to say thank you to everyone involved in making this cable a reality.

and....

Since the GBM 2 player cable that I had to buy had two ends, I decided to buy an extra GBA -> GC cable and make two cables. I figured I was already doing one cable, I might as well make two.

I've listed it on ebay, and I figured I'd mention it to the folks here in case they are interested (after all, it wouldn't exist if it weren't for CAG). Please don't think this is spam or anything, as I only have this one cable and I'm only trying to give back. If the mods feel this is inappropriate, feel free to remove this part of the message.

the ebay auction is here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/...em=270033836280

#173 indigotine

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Posted 18 October 2006 - 08:01 AM

Hey there, new member here.

Autoshoes-
I have the same cables here, but my Pelican cable seems to have 7 wires in it.
I was wondering if you could describe the process you used to make your two cables?
Did you just cut the Micro link cable in half and each end for two different GCN/GBA-GBM cable?
I have lots of the Nintendo GCN-GBA link cables to mess with, but I don't want to destroy them with my lack of skill.

I hate to mess with the little pins in the chip-board thing, as I don't trust my soldering skills that much.
I was hoping there was a way to connect the wires from the Pelican All-in-One cable to my Micro cable without touching the boards in any of the cables.

I read the entire thread and noticed someone else posted info on the pelican cable and upon reviewing the data provided, I found out what the spare wire is for, but I'm still clueless on how to attach my Micro cable wires up to them.

Any assistance is greatly appreciated.

My brothers and I love playing Four Swords on the Game Cube, but our SPs have been MIA for months, so need to find a way to connect our Micros to the Game Cube for us all to play again.

#174 quidditys_shore

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Posted 19 October 2006 - 05:48 PM

I've just signed up to this site for one reason......anyone else making some GC to GBM links?! like the poll says i'd pay $25 for one!

#175 indigotine

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Posted 21 October 2006 - 07:09 AM

Thanks so much for this thread. :)
Using the information supplied here, I created my own cable and it works like a dream! So much better than my old, dark GBA screen!

If I can get my hands on another Pelican All-In-One cable, I will have a second cable for my bros to use using the opposite end of the Micro-to-Micro link cable.

#176 TCCPhreak

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Posted 27 October 2006 - 01:55 PM

Hello, Newbie here... *g*

I also recently bought myself a Gameboy Micro and was very happy to find this thread here. Although I don't really like all details of the first post (As I don't own a GBM-GBM-link cable with Hub, I absolutely didn't know, which wires from a normal cable get connected to the Cube-cable. I also wondered what 6 wires are the one *really* used and whether Cube-GND gets connected to GBM-GND or GBM-Shield), it helped me a lot researching.

I was not very surprised when I found out, that the GBM-link-port is *very* "compatible" to the GBA one, but I was pretty surprise when the wiring were in the same order (P3.3V, SO,SI,SD,SC,GND)

Unfortunately I read very much too late that the Cube-Cable needs the GBA/GBM as a power source and therefore got stuck with some link cables leaving pin1(I consider the outer pin on each side as not a part of the counting, as it is simply for recharge cable) unconnected.
Still, I didn't want to give in (even phoned Nintendo today, but didn't place an order)

So I tried some things and perhaps some of you might be interested in the results:

- Original Cube-Cable:
As the Cube provides 3.3V on the VCC2-cable I tried connecting *that* to pin1 of the GBA-Connector (and therefore to the IC-to-be-powered).
It failed. I also got a (mental) shock when my Memory Card was unreadable for a moment.

- Dual-Power:
I also own a SP and perhaps I'm not the only one who doesn't only use GBM when Cube-GBA-playing.
So I tried connecting the Power-line (Pin1 of the GBA-connector in my GBA-GC-cable) to the power-line of the Cube-GBM-to-be cable. My plan was that the SP powers it's own IC *plus* the IC for the GBM. I didn't add extra GND-wiring between both adapters as they are (should be) grounded by the Cube.
It worked.
Disadvantage: You have a direct cable between GBA and GBM. Also I'm unsure which length as allowd.

- Unofficial Cube-GBA-cable.
Well, I had this open for the previous try and so I decided to go for it.
Same as with Nintendo-Cable: connected VCC2 to Pin1 of GBA-connector (needless to say: all other wires were connected to their equivalent on the GBM-cable)
Surprise: It worked.
It seems like the unofficial cable I used (Big Ben Interactive) drains less power than the official Nintendo one and therefore the Cube can power the IC normally powered by the GBM. At the moment I'm breaking apart another BigBen-Cube-GBA-Cable (one was for experiment only, this one is for real) and then I will start finding out, which wires are not really used. (I don't believe that Cube-connection uses all wires). I'll report back, then.

Fazit:
You might be able to use cheap GBM-link-cables (I used "Dragon". Has the advantage of having all four cables with 6 wires - nr 6 is shield, not Power - so you might make 4 cables with one of these) with cheap Cube-GBA/SP-cables by letting the Cube power the ICs.
Still I think I should place a warning: I have no idea, how much power the Cube can provide for such a thing, whether it can power more than one IC and if such procedure has any other bad results.

I'm sitting in germany (Europa). I don't want to promise anything, yet, but if I start trusting these cables (and find some way to take apart these cables more easily) I could start building and sending cables from here.

Greets,

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#177 TCCPhreak

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Posted 11 November 2006 - 10:00 AM

Just a quick update:

I ordered two of these Micro Link-Cables from Nintendo (germany). The guy at the telephone told me that I could only order "customary" amounts of these cable - two - which is a rather small quantity... as you already need three of them to link 4 GBMs.

But he also told me that I could order larger quantitys directly at their repair center, so perhaps this might be an option.

Price for them here is 10 Eur plus 3.5 Eur shipping.

As I mentioned the absence of exact pin numbers in the first post (although the pictures seem to have gone offline at the moment), I wanted to post my personal experience with that cable with special regard to the pinning at the hub:

Master is the end of the cable without the special plastic. This is because this end is supposed to be connected to hubs.
Slave is the end of the cable with the special plastic. This is to prevent this end to be connected to hubs.

When the small PCB lies before you, with Master cable left and Slave cable right, the Hub connector should point away from you and be on the lower side.

Hub connector:
The four large dots are shielding.
The eight tiny dots should be counted from left to right
X 2 4 6
1 3 5 X

with standard GBA Link-Port pins:
1. Power
2. Serial Out
3. Serial In
4. Serial Data
5. Serial Clock
6. GND
The two X are the two outermost pins. They are used be power supply/recharge adapters only (and not used in linking)

Cables:
The Master cable is connected to the six solder dots on the left side
(large dot to the left, two small dots in the first line, three small dots in the second line)

45
(6)123

The slave cable is connected to the six solder dots on the right side
(two small dots in the first line, three small dots in the second line, large dot to the right)

54
321(6)

Large solder dot is in (parenthes)

The pin numbering is true to the standard as mentioned above

The wires on both cables have the same colors (numbers as above):
blue: 1
red: 2
orange: 3
brown: 4
green: 5
pure metal/shield: 6 GND

That means, in contrast to other cables the shielding from the connector has no wire. On the other hand, those cables feature the power line needed be some applications (e.g. the Gamecube-GBA cable)

I refuse to trace the lines on the PCB as the original cables use ICs and resistors and other hardware so can't be re-built easily. Also other cables show that extra hardware is not really needed.

Note: This is the wiring in my cable. I doubt that other original Nintendo-GBM-cables use different wires or different colors but please reality-check whether the information here matches your cables before damaging hardware. I'm not responsible for things gone wrong.

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About my cube-powered cable: We had a long session yesterday with 4 Gameboys connected (one of them Micro with that cable) and had no problems.
Still, with the Nintendo cables I should be prepared to build GBM-powered Cube-GBM connection cables.

Greets,

TCC

PS. Sorry for the "double post" (if that is... with the time between)

#178 anarchyburger

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Posted 12 November 2006 - 04:32 AM

i just bought a gba micro link cable converter from the nintendo online store so i can use a gba cable to transfer data from my gba sp to my gba micro....

so my question is if i buy a gba to gc cable and jus use my gba micro link cable converter, would i just be able to us micro on with my gc to play final fantasy or 4 swords, without performing this little operation on the cables?

has any one ever tried this??
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#179 TCCPhreak

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Posted 12 November 2006 - 10:10 AM

Hello,

As far as I know, this converter allows you to use a GBM-Link cable for connecting a GBM to "older" GBAs.

GBM --GBM-Link-cable--- --converter-- GBA/SP

it is the GBA/SP-link port that is converted to "small". You won't get a connector to connect the Cube-cable to.

If there was a converter like this:

GBM --converter-- --GBA-link-cable-- GBA/SP

things would be a lot easier.

Of course, I may be wrong but I've never seen an official Nintendo converter for using "older" cables with the Micro and I doubt that Nintendo started producing them in the last week.

Greets,

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#180 anarchyburger

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Posted 12 November 2006 - 09:44 PM

>http://store.nintend...orderTotal=null

thats the cable converter i just bought...

and i was wondering if i could just plug in the gba-->gc cable into my micro using the converter and then it would somehow magically work??
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