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Poll: Would you purchase a Gamecube->Micro/GBA Link Cable at $25 shipped?

Would you purchase a Gamecube->Micro/GBA Link Cable at $25 shipped?

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#181 TCCPhreak

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Posted 14 November 2006 - 07:55 AM

And here is what Nintendo comments on this converter:
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The Game Boy micro Converter Connector allows the Game Boy micro Link Cable to link to a Game Boy Advance or Game Boy Advance SP.
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As said, you use a Micro Link cable.

Sorry.

I believe, if things were such easy (well, Nintendo could have made them that easy), this whole thread would be useless.

Of course, you can build such a converter cable yourself. You simply need an official Nintendo Micro Link cable and a plug for the older cables (like from a defect GBA or from a Link Cable hub)... and some soldering experience.
I believe, such a converter (non-Nintendo) was mentioned on page 8 or so but it was never answered, whether this converter works with the cube cable.

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#182 Berzerk

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Posted 29 November 2006 - 06:27 PM

But could some who made/purchased the Nyko GCN->GBM cable tell me which pin on the GCN connects to wich pin on the GBM, or someone with a Nyko GBA->GCN connector tell me which wire (Color) connects to which pin on the game cube. This would greatly help me in making my own. (I plan on doing detailed specs of this process, and then posting them.)

#183 TCCPhreak

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Posted 04 December 2006 - 05:04 PM

I am pretty much sure that there is no way of having a direct wire-to-wire-connection between Cube and GBA. Those ICs must have some function. *g*
So I guess they're hidden in the Nyko cable as well. As far as I know (I'd love to get my hands on one of those cables, anyone knows whether you can get them in germany?) they look like a plug on Cube side and one on GBA side - instead of the bulky Nintendo-Adapters that cover the power charge connector on SP

Weren't cable colors given in the first post of this thread?

In other news:

I cut my original Nintendo-GBM-Link cable to build 6-wire-Cube-adapters. Wasn't too hard (and I even got a use for the remaining Hub connector).
In contrast to the original idea I cut away the GBA-connector and solder the GBM-wires through the board (is always more secure, and having two plugs on one adapter is always risky... you never know when one of your friends tries to connect both).
But:
I strongly recommend using BigBen Cube-GBA-Converters for this. it is *MUCH* easier to cut away the old plug and your soldering area is much less clattered with other components.

For the stats:
Yesterday, 4-people-session,
1 SP standard cable
1 Micro, Original-Nintendo-Cube-GBA-Converter converted with original Nintendo-Link-plug.
1 Micro, BigBen-Cube-GBA-Converter converted with original Nintendo-Link-plug.
1 Micro, BigBen-Cube-GBA-Converter, converted with "cheap" 5-wire link-plug (therefore Cube-powered)

>5 hours, no problems.

btw: I built myself some "tools" (plug to banana-plugs) to check out wiring of pure connection cables.. so if I know where to get such a Nyko cable, I could investigate further.

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#184 Berzerk

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Posted 04 December 2006 - 05:42 PM

Since every company uses a different color code for the wires, I am trying to find out which pin on the cube goes to which pin on the GBA. I imagine the reason the direct wire does not work with any thing but the official Nintendo one, and the Nyko one, is because two wires are missing. If I would find out which pin on the cube end goes to witch pin on the gba from someone who has already made the Nyko version, then I could repost how to had the extra two wires needed.

#185 TCCPhreak

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Posted 07 December 2006 - 01:24 PM

Since every company uses a different color code for the wires, I am trying to find out which pin on the cube goes to which pin on the GBA. I imagine the reason the direct wire does not work with any thing but the official Nintendo one, and the Nyko one, is because two wires are missing. If I would find out which pin on the cube end goes to witch pin on the gba from someone who has already made the Nyko version, then I could repost how to had the extra two wires needed.


I am 100% sure (that doesn't mean that I'm correct) that there is no waz to directlz connect the GBA-Link-port with the Cube. In the Nintendo-Adapter there are ICs (at the GBA connector), in the BigBen-Adapters there are ICs (at the GBA connector) and I'm very very sure that in the Nyko cables there are those ICs, too - perhaps hidden somewhere in the cable or at the Cube-side-connector, but definitely in there.

Let me get my hands on one of these cables and I can tell for really sure, perhaps even find out where the ICs are hidden.
If you have such a cable, yourself, you could use an Ohm-metre or connection checker to find out that there is no direct connection but some electronics in between.

The reason why you can't use cheap GBM-Link-cables to build your Cube-adapter is that those ICs need to be powered and only the official Nintendo-GBM-Link-cables provide the wire for power.

Perhaps I didn't get your question right (in that case please specify), but I hope that answers your questions.

Greetings,

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#186 Berzerk

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Posted 07 December 2006 - 04:10 PM

So the Micros require a power, but the GBA ans GBA SP don't? That doesn't make sense, but then Nintendo never does....The things is, I don't think the direct through capeles have an IC. That is what I am getting at. (The Nyko ones) If they did, then they would have to be built right into the connector pin. Based on the size of the IC, I don't see how they could fit it in either end of that cord. Also, the Official Micro-Micro link cables use an IC, but my old Madcatz GBA/SP-GBA/SP does not use an IC, so I am thinking that Nintendo added the IC just to be r3tarded. If some one has an old gba-gba official Nintendo cable, and it has an IC, then my theory is even more likely.

The question I am trying to get answered is, what is the PIN out on the game cube. When you plug in a controller, what pin does what? When you plug in a wavebird, what pin doew what? When you plug in a gba link cable, what pin does what? I am not interested in the game boy side. I want to know which pin is Serial in, and which is serial out on the game cube. Which one has power going through it, etc. That way I can translate the pins to my Micro, and if an IC IS required, I can find out what type, and pick it up.

#187 TCCPhreak

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Posted 08 December 2006 - 01:33 PM

So the Micros require a power, but the GBA ans GBA SP don't? That doesn't make sense, but then Nintendo never does....The things is, I don't think the direct through capeles have an IC. That is what I am getting at. (The Nyko ones) If they did, then they would have to be built right into the connector pin. Based on the size of the IC, I don't see how they could fit it in either end of that cord. Also, the Official Micro-Micro link cables use an IC, but my old Madcatz GBA/SP-GBA/SP does not use an IC, so I am thinking that Nintendo added the IC just to be r3tarded. If some one has an old gba-gba official Nintendo cable, and it has an IC, then my theory is even more likely.

The Cube-GBA-cables require a power supply from the GBA / SP as well (if you open up a converter cable, you can trace the appropiate pin). If you really want to try, you could build a GBA Link-extension cable without the power wire. It should work with most link cables but not with the Cube-GBA-converter.

About "Nyko-cable, ICs or not?":
Nyko-cable uses six wires. So GBA-power is connected somewhere. As I strongly don't believe in the GBA powering some part of the Cube or Nyko using more wires than necessary, I still remain on my "Nyko-cable, ICs - yes" point of view. Those ICs are not very large and I guess with newer techniques Nyko might have smaller or less ones than Nintendo "in the old days", so I think they're in there.
Still, I really want to get and examine one of those by now.

Why Nintendo built electronics into the GBM-Link cable?
I have no idea. I don't think, it's necessary - as you can build those cables without ICs. Still I guess we should be grateful because if it wasn't for those ICs, we might have no GBM-cables with all six wires at all and this whole thread perhaps would have never been written.

The question I am trying to get answered is, what is the PIN out on the game cube. (...)

http://www.int03.co..../gc-control.htm

I hope that helps.
I haven't read all of it but it seems like some of the main questions are answered.

Greets,

TCC

#188 Thursdaycat77

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Posted 29 December 2006 - 10:12 PM

Hey troz, I just got a wii for christmas and can finally enjoy everything I missed on gamecube, I bought four gba and cables so me and all my friends can play, we honestly play loz:four swords daily, Is there anyway I could send you materials and a generous compensation so you could make me 2 cables...I'd love to show up to our game night with a micro to laugh at my bastard friends who cuccoo me to death, when they arent throwing me into a row of bombs........bastards.

#189 indigotine

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Posted 30 December 2006 - 07:41 AM

I made a second GCN - Micro cable after picking up a second All-In-One cable and using the left-over half of my Micro - Micro cable. I noticed that in one All-In-One there was an orange wire, and the other, there was a white instead.

Using the key posted somewhere earlier in this thread, I made the second one assuming that the white wire replaced the orange. It worked.

I just thought I'd throw that note out there for anyone who is interested in making their own with an All-In-One cable by Pelican. I didn't have to solder anything and could use both halves of my Micro to Micro cable, so I think the All-In-One method is more economic than the original method. Especially for those who are worried about messing things up with the soldering iron.
all you need are some scissors, electrical tape, and maybe a little plastic box to house the wire connections to keep things prettier.

#190 sliceypete

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Posted 01 January 2007 - 09:09 PM

anyone willing to sell me one of these cables? i just got a GBM, and i didnt know it couldnt hook up to a gc. if anyone has one just pm thanks

#191 Troz1820

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 02:03 AM

TCCPhreak - Do you mind taking a few photos of the BigBen link cable's circuitboard? I've had no luck replicating your success using the Gamecube to power the ICs with the various GC->GBA link cables I have.

#192 Troz1820

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Posted 03 January 2007 - 07:03 AM

Argh, I've destroyed two GBA Link cables trying to get TCCPhreak's method to work!

However, in better news, I've gotten a 3rd party GBM cable to work by completely disassembling the micro connector on it, removing all the hot glue (I hate hot glue), and soldering new wires to the tiny tiny plugs. I'll take a picture when I make my second attempt at it later this week. If I can get this method working consistantly I would be able to build more cables...

Anyone know a good way to remove hot glue aside from scraping it off little by little?

#193 lSonol

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Posted 12 January 2007 - 10:37 AM

Hey, I'm pretty much new to this forums myself. I just recently bought myself a GBM to play those connectivity games with my nephews, Like Four Swords and FF:CC. But i just found out that the GBA to GC connector doesn't work for it, so i searched around google and caught on to this thingy. I was wondering, Troz, if you were still doing those orders or services. If you are, I can send my cables in, and pay the additional fees for your service. Thanks and i hope you reply soon.

#194 Troz1820

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Posted 12 January 2007 - 03:22 PM

I'm working on a new solution that won't require the official Nintendo Micro Cable, as you can see in my previous post. I want to make certain the method is reliable before sending any cables out. Once I'm pleased with the results I will be once again selling a limited number of cables.

If you have both a GC->GBA connector and a Official Nintendo Micro Cable and don't feel like waiting, send me a PM and we can work the details out on getting a cable made for you.

#195 Lennylightspeed

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Posted 05 February 2007 - 12:34 PM

I'd love to know when new cables are available or if someone would like to sell one I would certainly make it worth your effort.

#196 Troz1820

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Posted 05 February 2007 - 03:04 PM

Just an update for all still waiting for another batch of cables: The new method I spoke of above takes around 30-45 minutes of my time to prep just the Micro end of the cable. It would take much less time if there was an easy way of removing hot glue but as it stands, I have to chisel away at the glue slowly. If I try to go too fast or cut too much I render the cable useless.

Basically I'm taking the 4-player GBM link cables sold at various places, cutting the head open, and re-soldering the wires to the appropriate pins. Getting to the wire/pins is where chiseling away at the hot glue comes into play.

#197 lioshi

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 10:40 AM

Hi,

I'm french and I want a cable GBM <> GC but i don't find any GBM cable link official...
With this cables :

link GBM <> GBM : http://www.play-asia...fr-70-1blf.html
link GBA <> GC official : http://www.play-asia...-fr-70-17s.html

how can I made a cable GBM <> GC

Thanks a lot for your answers. ;)

#198 Troz1820

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 03:28 PM

The GBM cable you've linked to will not work without major modifications. You'd need to crack the head of the connector open and re-solder the wires to the appropriate pins. In the end you're left with a mess, and believe me, I've tried to make it look nice. If you know how to remove hot glue (see posts above) then it would be easier...

The only cable I've found to work out of the box is the official GBM cable.

#199 SonicJ

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Posted 10 March 2007 - 05:13 PM

I just registred for this form by coming across it on google. I was look for diy gc>gba cables and this thread was first on the serch list. So I skimed through the topic and I would like to know, is there anyway to create a gc>gba from scratch?

#200 lSonol

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Posted 13 March 2007 - 04:57 AM

I just picked up the cables from the post office this morning. I've tried it today and I must say... I am highly impressed by your work on this. It looks very professional. The connection seems flawless, I've yet to encounter any problems, and even the GBM to GBA cable works great. Thanks alot, Troz. I give you a 100 out of 10 rating on this XD. It was well worth the wait for me.

* 100 Not a typo =P*

#201 FallingAway

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Posted 27 March 2007 - 11:08 PM

Hey, i need one of these, are you still making them?

#202 Troz1820

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Posted 27 March 2007 - 11:51 PM

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#203 TCCPhreak

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Posted 02 April 2007 - 03:03 PM

TCCPhreak - Do you mind taking a few photos of the BigBen link cable's circuitboard? I've had no luck replicating your success using the Gamecube to power the ICs with the various GC->GBA link cables I have.


Hello there,

I'm sorry for not responding earlier.

Well, I have glued the BigBen Connector closed (Often I'm not very cautious opening things that don't want to open) but I could open it up, again and take a picture.

Although I don't think that there's much to see. It's just a small wire between VCC and Pin1 of the (ex-)GBA-connector. The other wires were soldered to the appropiate wires from a GBM-cable.

I also got a bunch of connectors called "new version". With them I learned that Pin 4 and 5 are not needed for a Cube-Connection. I also thought about trying the VCC-connection again, so I might take pictures from there (if it works).

Congratulations on being successful with soldering to the micro-connectors. I also got one connector "to the bone" but I guess I lack the skill of soldering to that tiny plugs.

Has anyone yet tried using an external power source with the cables? Powering it with a GBA or SP did work.

I also thought about taking apart an old (and cheap) GB module and taking the 3.3V from the power pin there... Still I don't know whether GBM supplies the voltage to the cartridge when LinkBoot is used.

Greetings,

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#204 mariomaniac33

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Posted 07 April 2007 - 09:41 AM

I want to get one of these cables. Are you still making them and if so, can you PM me about it?

#205 gogoplata

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Posted 10 April 2007 - 12:11 PM

hi, id like one too if your still making?

#206 TCCPhreak

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Posted 19 April 2007 - 12:17 PM

I'm not sure whether those questions were directed at Troz.

I can make those cables (although I'd have to try with the new bunch of Cube-Connector-Cables... only 4 wires) but I have to use those expensive Nintendo-GBM-cables (I also have to check whether they still sell them) and as I'm sitting in germany, I believe postage would be very hard.

Greets,

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#207 Troz1820

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 02:22 PM

I think I've replied to everyone about the cables. Seems that getting the expensive Nintendo cables is the problem, as it always has been. It's too bad that they really are the only method for reliably doing this aside from breaking open the connector. When doing that, the connectors I've torn apart aren't presentable enough to share with others.

#208 Troz1820

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Posted 01 May 2007 - 02:00 PM

I have a very small batch of cables for anyone interested. Send me a PM if you are.

05.03 - Sold Out!

#209 other

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Posted 07 May 2007 - 04:57 PM

I'm interested in buying one of these if someone still makes them. What would it cost though? I live in Sweden, so I guess shipping would also cost quite a bit.

#210 Troz1820

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Posted 08 May 2007 - 12:07 AM

I don't know if TCCPhreak has made any for anyone else, but send him a message since shipping might be a little easier (I think)

For me to do it I need the cables sent to me since I ran out once again. Send your complaints to Nintendo for not selling these in retail stores :bomb: