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Poll: Would you purchase a Gamecube->Micro/GBA Link Cable at $25 shipped?

Would you purchase a Gamecube->Micro/GBA Link Cable at $25 shipped?

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#211 other

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Posted 08 May 2007 - 01:01 PM

Thank you, I will do that.

It's quite silly that it's possible to make this cable, while Nintendo claims it's impossible. Bastards.

#212 imacgod

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Posted 08 May 2007 - 10:47 PM

I have received my cable. Quality piece of work. I'll test it out in a couple of weeks since I'm stuck at school until finals are over. So, does this work as a GBA link cable or soley as a GameCube link cable?

#213 Troz1820

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Posted 08 May 2007 - 11:57 PM

The cable has a switch in the middle for GC or GBA. It can be used for the Micro->GC Link when set to GC or for a GBA->Micro Link when set to GBA. It cannot work as a GBA->GC Link Cable since that end was replaced with the Micro connector.

#214 imacgod

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Posted 09 May 2007 - 12:27 AM

The cable has a switch in the middle for GC or GBA. It can be used for the Micro->GC Link when set to GC or for a GBA->Micro Link when set to GBA. It cannot work as a GBA->GC Link Cable since that end was replaced with the Micro connector.


That's what I meant. Good to know.

#215 CZroe

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Posted 12 May 2007 - 03:25 AM

Got it. Thanks Troz!

#216 Ruahrc

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Posted 12 May 2007 - 10:37 AM

I made a second GCN - Micro cable after picking up a second All-In-One cable and using the left-over half of my Micro - Micro cable. I noticed that in one All-In-One there was an orange wire, and the other, there was a white instead.

Using the key posted somewhere earlier in this thread, I made the second one assuming that the white wire replaced the orange. It worked.

I just thought I'd throw that note out there for anyone who is interested in making their own with an All-In-One cable by Pelican. I didn't have to solder anything and could use both halves of my Micro to Micro cable, so I think the All-In-One method is more economic than the original method. Especially for those who are worried about messing things up with the soldering iron.
all you need are some scissors, electrical tape, and maybe a little plastic box to house the wire connections to keep things prettier.



First off, great thread and great work everyone! I made my own GBM->GC cable today using the Pelican all-in-one cable. I tested it with Animal Crossing and Wind Waker and they both operated fine with no problems. My pelican cable had 7 wires, and also had a white wire instead of the orange. Here is the wiring scheme I used (it's the same as posted previously but I will put it here again for others if they need it)

Micro Wires => Pelican Wires
Shielding => Green
Blue => Blue
Orange => Yellow
Brown => Red
Green => White* (may be orange on some cables?)
Red => Brown
Shield => Black

Notice the two shielding wires, I just twisted the shielding wires into two strands which I used to solder. Also notice that I had a white wire on my Pelican cable instead of the orange.

I was even able to remove that rubbery "flex joint" that straddles the casing of the little plastic box and although it is a tight squeeze, I was able to get the GBMicro cable through it. So now the joint where the cable runs into the small plastic box looks very clean (and is very sturdy) because I was able to re-use the original plastic mating piece. My cable now looks identical to the stock Pelican cable, except that on the single cable end there is a Micro connector instead of a 2nd GBA connector.

I don't know if the Micro-GBA wiring works as I do not have a GBA or SP to test, but I might bring my custom cable with me to my local EB Games tomorrow when I go return the Nintendo official GBA-GC cable I bought but didn't use, and see if I can just borrow one of their GBA/SP units to see if it works.

I really liked the pelican PCB inside the plastic box because it provided a decent work area. I actually unsoldered the original wires and connector leading to the original GBA cable, and soldered the wires of the micro cable directly to the PCB pads. These pads were much larger than the little holes on the nintendo GBA-GC cable that are pictured in the original post. I admit that my soldering was not the best but I am confident the connections are strong.

So in the end it may have been a little more expensive with the $10 nintendo micro cable and the $8 pelican cable (I had to buy it new) and therefore may be not quite up to "Cheap ass gamer" standards :) but hey it was fun and worth it too because now I too can connect my GBMicro to my GC. Sweet!

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#217 jesslaw

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 10:21 PM

Since nobody seems to have listed the actual pin outs on the gameboy units - here is my diagram. I've successfully put a micro-style link plug on an F2A USB linker and can confirm it works fine:

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EDIT - Ah, seen Troz's post above. oops. I think it matches up so that's good.
EDIT2 - Hmm, it doesn't seem to match so I'm not sure Troz's diagram is correct. His info earlier in the thread certainly wasn't because I tried wiring it like that and it didn't work. Mine is definitely tested working, and what I'm describing here are the actual sockets on the Gameboy units, not some particular brand of cable. I managed to get the information from here but in my diagram I've labelled what each pin does rather than just showing an equivalence:
http://www.gamesx.co...matics:gbmtogba



My testing indicates that TROZ's pinout earlier in the thread might be accurate.

So I have a Micro <-> Micro 2 player cable that I am butchering. I have been looking for the actual pinouts of the Micro for quite a while. ( this forum is the only one with any real info) Anyway, my interest is not in connecting to a GBA or GC or anything, rather I'm trying to make a Micro addon that was originally for the GBA. ( http://www.pixelproc.net/altivario.html )

My problem has been identifying the equivalent pinouts on the GBM. I just turned on my Micro and DMM and I am getting +3.3 V from pin 2 to 7 on Patter's drawing above. I.E. Pin 2 = GND, Pin 7 = 3.3V. This indicates to me that either the micro is holding SCLK high until it is pulled low at which point it would turn on 3.3 V at pin 3, or that the above pinout is incorrect. Ok, I just checked pins 3 to 6 as well, they all read 3.3 V relative to pin 2. I presume the GMB is waiting for one of the inputs to be pulled low before initiating communication, but I don't know much about serial comm.

On my GBM, at least, the Diagram above is incorrect since there would be no way for pin 3 (3.3V?) to be higher than pin 6 (GND) by 3.3 V, since I have measured 3.3 V on pin 6 relative to pin 2. Which means that on the above diagram pin 2 would either have to be at -3.3V or pin 3 would have to go up to 6.6V, which I highly doubt.

My operating assumption for Micro pinouts ( I dont have a GBA ):
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(On a side note, I have been having trouble with pin orientation on some of the drawings I've seen. The way I understand it is the cable has the gold connector which is embedded into the back of the GBM: The Cable which looks like it would be 'Male' is actually Female. And the Micro itself has the Male connector. Is that what everyone understands?)

Also on the GBM - GBM 2 player cable, the only 2 pins for which I get continuity are pins 2 on both ends of the cable. None of the other pins are directly connected, which leads me to believe that pin 2 really is GND. ( The other pins 3-7 have 580 ohms between them and pins 2 and 5 on the opposite end (except for pin 6 which is unconnected to any of the pins on the opposite side.) )

I can't explain why Patter got the results he did. I wired my F2A usb linker up according to TROZ's original post last year, and I could never get it to work. (I have better test equipment at hand now) If I get the time I'll rewire my F2A usb link up according to Patters drawing and see how that goes.

I am waiting for a printed PCB to arrive for my main project. When that does I'll stuff it according to TROZ's pinout and if it works, I'd say that would be good evidence for a conclusive pinout on the Micro, since that'd be a direct pinout to electronics connection, without the link cables in between. The link cables obviously switch SIN and SOUT and I dont know which SCLK they use, but I think that may be the source of the confusion.

Jesse

Also, I thank everybody for contributing to this forum. I hope I can help out.

#218 TCCPhreak

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Posted 19 May 2007 - 09:19 AM

It is possible to build a "universal GBM-GBA"-Adaptor. Simply solder the 6 middle wires to an appropiate GBA-plug (taken from a dead GBA or something, I took an old GBA-Link-Hub)

I build such an adapter and it works perfekt with "GBA-Cube-Cable", Wireless Adaptor, normal Link cable and an USB-savegame extractor.

About the GBM-pinout: the outer wires are power, the inner ones are the 6 link-pins - in the same order as they are numbered on GBA or so.

I made a document about GBA-linking once but till now it wasn't on the net
http://www.westfalen...und/gbalink.PDF

(and it's not referenced from anywhere but here. I plan to put it on the technical section of my real page, I just wanted to have it online right now so that it IS online anywhere and people can read it)

Sorry it's german (I plan to do multi-language some time):

"Stecker am cable" = "plug when looking onto the cable"
"Buchse am Gameboy" = "plug when looking onto the link port"

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other: Sweden... that's europe. :-)

I'll try to find out whether GBM-link-cables are still available from Nintendo next week. Just beware that those original cables are not cheap.
As also said: You can use the Cube-power for powering the IC therefore using any cheap GBM-cable but I'll have to try whether that works with the GBA-cube-cables I have available.

Greets,

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#219 Doomed

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Posted 19 May 2007 - 07:30 PM

Play-Asia has third party micro->micro (two player) and micro ->micro ->micro ->micro (four player) cables.
Two Player - $2.99
^Shipping at US$ 1.80^

Four Player - $3.99
^Shipping at US$ 2.80^


"Wholesale inquiries welcome!" is said on both pages.

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#220 TCCPhreak

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Posted 20 May 2007 - 09:31 AM

Play-Asia has third party micro->micro (two player) and micro ->micro ->micro ->micro (four player) cables.
Two Player - $2.99
^Shipping at US$ 1.80^

Four Player - $3.99
^Shipping at US$ 2.80^


"Wholesale inquiries welcome!" is said on both pages.


The problem with those cables (well, I haven't tested them but it's the problem with all third-party-cables I've seen so far) is that they don't use electronics, therefore they don't have a wire for Pin1 - which is 3.3V from the GBMicro.

Unfortunately the Cube-Cables have electronics in them and expect those electronics to be powered from the GBA, so if you don't have that power wire, the cable won't work easily.

I've tried (with some success) to simply take a solder spot that has 3.3V from the Cube and wire it to the spot where power from tha GBA is expected.
I also tried (successfully) to use a GBA SP to power two Cube-cables (its' own and one for the Micro).
But the most secure way is getting the power wire from the GBM itself. Nintendo-link-cables feature that wire (as they need the voltage to power some ICs in their linking cable; still, they have their price) and if you are very very very very good, you might be able to solder your own wire onto the connector port. (like Troz did)

Sorry for my english,

greets,

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PS: 2-player-link cables only need 4 wires (so most cheap cables won't feature the fifth), 4-player-link-cables need 5 wires. Often you can find a sixth wire inside the cable but that is not power but shielding.

#221 Doomed

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Posted 20 May 2007 - 01:11 PM

I was just putting it out there for all the l33t h4x0r5 who think they can do something with it. Me, I don't even own a soldering iron, know how to use one, or how to do pretty much any hacking of anything.:dunce:

I just bought a used Famicom Micro for $48 shipped from amazon, so I guess I need a cable now.

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#222 UncleBob

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Posted 20 May 2007 - 02:06 PM

You paid $48 for a used GBm? Most Wal*Marts have 'em new for $50....
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#223 Doomed

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Posted 20 May 2007 - 02:09 PM

1: Yes, on black friday I should have got a new one for $40. But I didn't. I was stupid.
2: I checked all of the stores near me, none had any micros, let alone the rarer famicom one.

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#224 UncleBob

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Posted 20 May 2007 - 02:42 PM

Wow... all the ones around here still have tons left... mine alone has 20 Famicom ones... :(

(I guess I should add that I work there and they really do have 20... not just makin' that up... ;)
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#225 TCCPhreak

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Posted 25 May 2007 - 01:53 PM

50$ for a Micro... seems pretty expensive to me. I've heard that in some shop here they were sold for 20 Eur - but I was too late to get one of them.

Unfortunately most shops seem to take a while to see, that the Micro doesn't sell and that it's cheaper to sell them off at a "good price" and use the space for something else.

I just hope that I'm near when they realize. :-)

In other news:
Phoned Nintendo today, they don't have any micro-link-cables left. They don't sell parts.
So I have to try the cube-powered-ones again... if anyone is still interested.

Greets,

TCC

#226 Doomed

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Posted 26 May 2007 - 05:48 PM

As previously stated, I would like/need one now. My micro came yesterday, I must say it rocks. Now to spend a gazillion dollars on faceplates.

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#227 GizmoGC

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Posted 26 May 2007 - 06:08 PM

I have a cable if anyone is interested PM me

#228 Ruahrc

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Posted 01 June 2007 - 05:01 AM

Nintendo is out of Micro link cables? According to their online store, the link cable is still advertised and does not indicate that it is out of stock.

I have always wondered if it would be possible to build a wireless connection between the gamecube and the GBMicro using the wireless adapter. It would go something like this:
Gamecube>(GC Link Cable>GBA wireless adapter) > > GBMicro w/wireless adapter
You would have to graft a standard GBA wireless adapter to a GC>GBA link cable- I am wondering if the hardware and interfacing on the GBA wireless unit is transparent enough (i.e. does it simply recieve signals from the input pins and translate them to wireless signal broadcasting over the air) to just wire it all together.

I do have half of a GBmicro link cable (with a GBMicro plug and the "box" that is in the middle of the cable) that was leftover from when I made my cable. I'd be happy to send it along to someone (just would need to cover postage) if they needed it and are unable to secure a micro link cable of their own. Problem is it has moved away in a box (I am moving in the near future and have sent some of my stuff ahead already) and I probably can't get it until late June or early July.

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#229 CZroe

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Posted 01 June 2007 - 01:35 PM

Nintendo is out of Micro link cables? According to their online store, the link cable is still advertised and does not indicate that it is out of stock.

I have always wondered if it would be possible to build a wireless connection between the gamecube and the GBMicro using the wireless adapter. It would go something like this:
Gamecube>(GC Link Cable>GBA wireless adapter) > > GBMicro w/wireless adapter
You would have to graft a standard GBA wireless adapter to a GC>GBA link cable- I am wondering if the hardware and interfacing on the GBA wireless unit is transparent enough (i.e. does it simply recieve signals from the input pins and translate them to wireless signal broadcasting over the air) to just wire it all together.

I do have half of a GBmicro link cable (with a GBMicro plug and the "box" that is in the middle of the cable) that was leftover from when I made my cable. I'd be happy to send it along to someone (just would need to cover postage) if they needed it and are unable to secure a micro link cable of their own. Problem is it has moved away in a box (I am moving in the near future and have sent some of my stuff ahead already) and I probably can't get it until late June or early July.

Ruahrc

The Wireless Adapter does not simulate a Game Link connection. Games must specifically support it. Also, the latency is very bad making turn based games like Pokemon and time based games like racing games the only kind that can really use it.

#230 TCCPhreak

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Posted 02 June 2007 - 07:34 PM

Hello,

okay, I guess I should have given more detail: German Nintendo hotline told me they're out of GBM link cables.

If anyone can order some in USA and send them here, I'd be very grateful (don't know about postage and all, but at least payment would be no problem - Paypal).

In other news:

I compiled a page about this topic. I don't want to say that this forum is bad, bad page offers more pictures, photos etc. I also go into detail about the Cube powering the cables (sorry, I'm that late, Troz)

so if someone likes to read and look and perhaps comment:
http://www.mksmks.de...l/gbmtocube.htm

(as always: my english is not the best, so please excuse smaller mistakes)

I have a small supply of Gamecube-GBA-cables (as might be seen on the pictures) and if anyone (near germany/europa) wants to try cube-powered-cables, please contact me.
Cheap GBM-link-cables should be able to get by in large quantities and in rather low prices (4 connectors, sub10Eur)

Greetings,

TCC

#231 Doomed

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Posted 03 June 2007 - 03:35 PM

Play aisa has 4-way GBM cables for $6.79 US shipped, and you can get a wholesale discount. According to Yahoo finance, it's about 5 Euro.

As for wireless connecters, there's a third party one. http://www.amazon.co...80885190&sr=1-1
However, the reviews say it doesn't work on some games.

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#232 UncleBob

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Posted 03 June 2007 - 04:29 PM

I did a little mini-review on those Majesco's wireless links.

http://www.nintendow...VAR_MSGDBTABLE=
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#233 TCCPhreak

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Posted 10 June 2007 - 09:13 AM

hello,

I'm not sure whether I get this right, does this adapter simulate a link-cable-connection or is it simply a third-party-equivalent to the nintendo-adapters?

Still, I believe that those adapters draw power from the GBA (where else?) and even if it'd be able to simulate the Cube-GBA-connection over wireless with those babys (which I fairly doubt,considering that the protocols seem to be different), we'd still be stuck with the old Pin1-Power-Problem.


Doomed: Thanks for the link. I always seem to pay about 7 or 8 Eur for fourplayer-cables but if play-asia is cheaper even with added postage, that might be an alternative.

Still, I have enough cables for my personal needs, so if no one in my region wants to try the cube-powered-cables, I guess, ordering those won't be necessary.

Troz:
You said, you didn't get the cube-powered-BigBen to work. If you PM me your address, I could send you one of mine, so you could take a look at it and test whether it works on US cubes. Might be nice to know - as I only have tested them on one cube.

Greets,

TCC

#234 Doomed

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Posted 10 June 2007 - 03:56 PM

Majesco's wireless links simulate a link connection, but they don't work on all games.

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#235 GizmoGC

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Posted 10 June 2007 - 04:45 PM

I still have my Cube > GBA Micro Cable available.

#236 lenselijer

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Posted 11 June 2007 - 06:46 PM

I have tried to make my own gb micro link cable, but my gb micro cable only has 4 wires, its missing the ground and power wire :(
I tried to use power and ground from the gamecube itself, but it doesnt seem to work. my gb micro is not being seen by the zelda/ff game.

Is there someone still selling a premade gb micro cable on this forum? i would like to buy one :)

#237 CZroe

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Posted 11 June 2007 - 09:31 PM

Majesco's wireless links simulate a link connection, but they don't work on all games.

They don't work on ANY single-pak GameLink game. :(

#238 TCCPhreak

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Posted 13 June 2007 - 03:36 PM

They don't work on ANY single-pak GameLink game. :(

So you can't "boot" your GBA with it. (like you would do over link-cable with Single-pak GameLink games)

And that again makes it (almost) useless for Gamecube-things. FFCC, ZeldaFSA, PacmanVS... all those games are send to the GBA so the GBA boots over link port.

Can I somehow vote for making this thread sticky? As it seems to be the only source in the internet (at least the only one featered on wiki) to cover GBM-Gamecube-connections, I'm afraid of losing it sometime.

Greets,

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#239 Doomed

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Posted 13 June 2007 - 05:42 PM

I'd ask a mod like shrike4242.

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#240 SkiDragon

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Posted 17 June 2007 - 06:43 AM

Has anybody tested the 4 way GBM cables from play asia to see how many wires are in the cables? I ordered one, and I am hoping it has all 6, although it probably doesn't.