Xbox 360 didn't have as many exclusives as PS3 I will give you that. So far what is out I feel Xbox One has better exclusives, but more have been announced for PS4 going forward. Story is subjective and really doesn't define every game. One of the favorite exclusives on 360 was Trials HD (console anyway) which had no story. Does that make it not a game? More a game? So more exclusives make it a gaming console? Better exclusives? If we want to say better exclusives I would take Nintendo over Sony or Microsoft any day. I guess they don't have as many exclusives as Sony, though, so even though their main business is games they must not be focused on them.
Partly it's the marketing focus. Sony has marketed a lot more to core gamers and hardcore gamers. MS did the reveal with all the tv/media/sports bullshit, and when they market games it's a lot more of only focusing on the CoD/Madden type gamer. MS packed in Kinect when core and hardcore gamers largely don't care about or despise motion control games. They tried to push DRM, indie unfriendly polices etc. that core and hardcore gamers loathed--and thankfully they backed down from, at least for this generation.
I just want to note that I wasn't attacking you and I do appreciate your feedback because I was genuinely interested. Partially it may have been a misread of your post originally, but I take it as you see the company itself, Sony, being more gaming focused when it comes to Playstation than Microsoft is when it comes to Xbox. I can definitely see where you are coming from with that. The devices themselves, which is what I see a lot of comments around the net talking about, say the Playstation is a gaming box and the Xbox is not. Which looking at it now is not what you appear to have been saying.
Ah yes the fallacy that the PS4 has no games, except the PS4 currently has a larger library than the Xbox One and likely always will. I don't want to start a list war, but what is so great about the Xbox One library in comparison to the PS4 offering? And just because the upcoming PS4 games don't appeal to you doesn't mean they won't draw an audience especially when there is very little releasing on the Xbox One and the PS4 will be getting the superior releases of games released on both. Also will you be one of those Xbox fan hypocrites knocking the PS4 ports, but when Halo 2 Anniversary is announced be acting like it's such an incredible addition to the Xbox One library? As for E3, Microsoft better bring it, because they and Nintendo have to, they have no choice. But hopefully it isn't like last years where it's mainly 3rd party game trailers especially for games that are years from release like Metal Gear Solid Phantom Pain and Witcher 3 or teaser trailers for games that are years away from release like Sunset Overdrive, D4, Quantum Break and Halo 5, or a trailer for a cancelled game like the black tusk teaser. In hindsight last years Microsoft E3 wasn't really all that great especially when you add in the Xbox One price announce that sucked all the air out of the room.
Exactly what I meant. Sony's TV business and other stuff is struggling, so they've doubled down on being a gaming company and are focused on trying to get back where they were with the PS2 and having that be their big cash cow.
Fair point. It' always splitting semantics hairs over what hardcore gamer means. When I use it I mean people who have gaming as their main or only hobby, play a ton of games across a ton of genres etc. I don't know that I'd even put myself in that boat. I definitely wouldn't put people who just log a lot of hours in a couple online shooters, only play a couple genres in that boat. They're hardcore into those games, but not the gaming industry as a whole IMO.
I do agree he was a good hire, and seems determined to get the marketing and message more focused on gaming. Which is good for everyone as the X1 needs to do better to keep competition up since Nintendo is irrelevant anymore in the console space.
Agree 100%.
Xbox has stuff like Forza 5, Ryse, Killer Instinct, Dead Rising 3, PvZ:GW, Max: Curse of the Brotherhood, Powerstar Golf, Peggle 2, Titanfall, Project Spark, Zoo Tycoon, Xbox Fitness, Crimson Dragon....and announced games like Quantum Break, D4, Below, Sunset Overdrive, and Halo of course. All those released games are great in their respective genre's (aside from Crimson Dragon, don't know much about it and I didn't buy it)
You're not really comparing Halo 2, a game that came out 10 years ago and was a big step forward for Xbox Live ....to Last of Us which came out a year ago and is considered one of the best games on the ps3 and a game that most people that wanted to play it, already did...
It is a big difference for sure.
Well, the time difference does matter. Plenty of gamers who got into Halo on 360 who were too young to have had an X1. As well as current youngsters who get into it with an X1 installment this time around.
Yeah, I don't see the problem. Besides, it's not a hell of a lot different than putting out a GOTY version of the game the next year. It just so happens that the next year is the first full year after a new console is released.
Varied high quality exclusives that aren't ports. I just bought a PS4 this week and the current library is pretty bad if the PS4 isn't your only console. What the PS4 really lacks is new games. Most of the games are multiplatform or ports of games that came out months/years ago on other platforms.
Forza 5 - Least content of any recent Forza game and riddled with microtransactions to the point the developer had to change them, and a big graphical downgrade to what was presented at E3.
I wasn't going to get into this but dude you're talking out of your ass. First of all, the fact that both systems are selling well is a good sign for a healthy gaming future (selling more than 2 million is good, 3 million better, 5 million even better, how people loose sight of the accomplishment due to numbers). This shows people, even enjoying last gen, are ready to move on to the future of gaming while also taking advantage of the features that have come out of many electronic devices in our homes (a wireless connection to the internet for convenience and ongoing updates, a hub for our media requirements and robust social elements). Secondly I'm actually amazed Microsoft is doing so well with their initial E3/management message mishap (maybe if Microsoft had a CEO other than Don Mattrick then, a CEO who knew he's going to Zynga after the presser, wouldn't have said such a stupid remark as just play on a 360 if you don't have an internet connection and put the brand image in the tank).
in' mainstream that we have people that hate gaming because it's too mainstream! That's why you have the Kinect for party games (the Wii/Wii U's strength), talking with friends and family with Skype, Xbox Fitness and utilized for Dasboard navigation. Get off your high horse.Looking at your gamer card you have played Resogun and Sound Shapes.. are you really going to stand by that claim especially when you just got a PS4 this week?
it and impulse bought one. 
Like I said, I only got the system this week, yesterday in fact, so I haven't played many games on it. I have however being looking at the games available and it is lacking. I've had an Xbox One since launch so I have already played all the multiplatform games I'm interested in. I also have a gaming PC so I have already played these indie games like Mercenary Kings which has been out on Steam since last July. So ya like I said the PS4's library is lacking if the PS4 isn't your only console.
Since you went through a lot of effort typing that post just want to acknowledge I read it, not sure I entirely agree with most of what you said, but it's good you are passionate about your console of choice. Unfortunately, sales are not agreeing with you, and by the way they are not at 5 million sold, they have shipped 5 million to retailers, they are closer to 4 million with 1 million stuffed in retail channels, so it's telling when you have to use an exaggeration to make a point while calling me out for talking out of my ass.
Honestly, that's true of any platform anymore since third party exclusives are mostly a thing of the past.
It would be pretty easy to take this list/paragraph and switch out games for PS4 games to make the exact same point in the opposite direction, so you're not really making a convincing point that things are so much better on one than the other. Digital releases alone tips heavily in the PS4's favor because they had their stuff together from day one.
I'm not sure it's fair to call the library lacking because you already played some of the games on another platform, but I can see why you personally might feel that way in that scenario.
Not true. The problem with the PS4 is ports. The Xbox One does have a lot of cross gen games but I have no problem with that because for the most part they come out the same time. This is not the case for PS4. PS4 gets ports of games months if not years after they came out on other platforms. I didn't own titanfall for a year on 360 before it came for Xbox One like I did/could for a lot of the games the PS4 has/will have(Injustice, DCU online, Fez, Mercenary Kings, Awesomenughts, Rouge Legacy, Starbound, Sound Shapes, Flower, Last of Us, Warframe, etc)
Well to some extent sure but the Xbox One has a surprisingly large amount of new games. I don't care about exclusive games, its new games that I want. Xbox One has a good amount of new games and I don't care if some of them are also available on 360 or PC. If I wanted them on 360 or PC I would have bought them for those platforms.
Not to mention most multi-console owners don't go out and buy every console the same day.
The bolded are all free either via PS+, Cross Buy, or just Free-to-Play in general. I had to invest nothing extra to get shinier or newer versions of these games. Flower is one of the PS4's best-selling digital games because it's only $7 if you didn't buy it before. I think it's safe to say that nobody has an issue with the option of having new versions of games you may have played before if you're not forced to pay for it. That's one of the best parts of the PS4 lineup so far is the wealth of options of free games via PS+, Cross Buy, and F2P that don't require further investment beyond the cost of the PS4 and PS+ before you start looking at things to buy.
I had both systems, and will again - so I don't give a rat's backside. And, as a matter of fact, not useless personal assumption, I played both - those developed for 360 and ported to PS3, and PS3 to 360. Clearly there are winners and losers.
Wealth of options? 1-2 free indie games randomly selected by Sony per month, F2P games that have been readily available on PS3 or PC, and games I already owned on a past console isn't what I'd call a "wealth of options". I own a PS3 and didn't care for DCU online on there, why would I care about the PS4 version? I beat Sound shapes on PS vita so having it on PS4 means nothing to me.
its only really indie games that have been ported. You seem like you're trying to make something out of nothing.
what do you expect rippon makes his return posting on these pages and they go down the tube again. the dude loves to troll microsoft. Heck i even stop trolling ps4 but he never stops.
I'm not sure if you are aware of this, but this is a discussion forum. We are here to talk about all things game related. I think most of us are aware that we can go and play our games and really don't need to be reminded to do so. And yes I agree we are very privileged to have these consoles and to be able to debate about them especially when there are real world problems going on. But these forums are dedicated to gaming so that's what we are here to discuss.
Why are you linking this article? Is it because this is where you got your incorrect information from? Here I'll link you right to Xbox Wire and highlight the quote directly from them, 2nd paragraph.
Those geniuses at Time which you linked to also got it wrong in another article, so probably not the best source to be using unless of course you are intentionally using it to try and prove an inaccurate point.
Edit: Read the comments on both those Time articles, even their readers are calling them out on the bs. lol
you are here to discuss xbox one? every two words in your post are either bashing it or ps4.
wouldnt bashing it still be discussing it?
You're hiding behind the technicality of the shipped units. The exact number there doesn't matter because they're selling, just like Sony. In fact quite well if you factor in the part you didn't quote.
There's your meat and potaaatooos, said in the LotR's Sam's voice, right there.
All that logic made my head hurt. Don't see that much here. Oh xbox one had sold about two million less then ps4 xbox one is trash. I hope ps4 sells more seeing they are in almost five times the areas. I would love to see u.s numbers and how close they are just for giggles. Maybe then this could end.
They sold more in the U.S. too. Every month. MS doesn't launch in many of those "72" countries you are referring to because the sales would just be embarrassing and it wouldn't be worth the effort and expense to ship them their and advertise the product.
But they aren't selling the same, Microsoft has around 1 million consoles sitting on store shelves and warehouses while the PS4 goes in and out of stock. The Xbox has sold through to customers around 4 million whereas the PS4 has sold over 7 million. The only place they are selling relatively close is the US and in 2014 they have been outsold by nearly 200 thousand units so far.
