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Crunchewy said:
I picked the Gamecube era. The Gamecube is the first console I had that I played with our kids. We had played some older games on emulators, but the GC was the first console we played together. Good times and good memories. Even stuff like Kirby's Air Ride. We got a TON of mileage out of that game.
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City Trial... :joystick:

 
My oldest (13) absolutely loved Kid Icarus Uprising and had zero problems with the controls. I have never played it, though, so I can't comment. Now he's playing the original game which he says is way, way harder.

 
Vigilante said:
City Trial... :joystick:
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There was game stuff and we did that, but there was also this mode where you just went around doing whatever you wanted and trying all the vehicles. They probably played that the most. Admittedly they had more fun doing that mode than me, but I enjoyed playing it with them so it was all good. I'm not sure what the mode was called now.

 
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I hope you're all happy now.
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handsomepete said:
guys, I'm afraid that the first infamous is very mediocre. I like it just fine, but I hope the second one is a little more engaging. the stunts are a nuisance, but I'm glad that I got all but three done before I left neon.
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There is more variety of attacks in Infamous 2, though it loses some of the grittiness and hopelessness of the original. I certainly wouldn't recommend playing them back to back as you will burn out real quick.

If you are going for the platinum in Infamous 1 I would recommend getting the stunts out of the way as soon as possible before you start despawning lots of enemies as you take back sections of town. Also print off a shard map and cross them off as you go, this will relieve some of the frustration later when you are hunting for your last few. I didn't so I had to print off a map and go to every location on there crossing off the ones I had already picked up.

 
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CAiNiAC said:
Dont get me wrong I love the 2D metroids and castlevanias, and still prefer them to the excursions into 3D, but the FPS metroids are solid experiences as well. Hell even Other M was fair. It certainly wasn't the steaming pile most make it out to be. I think most people just cling to what they grew up with as a child and attach to their first major introductions to IPs. I get that, I have more than my fair share of nostalgia classics I'd march for.
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I actually really liked Metroid Other M a lot. But I didn't have any experience with past games yet, so I wasn't burdened with how a Metroid game SHOULD BE. Yes, the story was dumb, but it's a game. I didn't care. At least the story bits didn't take very long. The gameplay was a lot of fun.

 
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I haven't collected too many of the shards on purpose but really need to print out the map soon and start tracking them.

guardian_owl said:
If you are going for the platinum in Infamous 1 I would recommend getting the stunts out of the way as soon as possible before you start despawning lots of enemies as you take back sections of town. Also print off a shard map and cross them off as you go, this will relieve some of the frustration later when you are hunting for your last few. I didn't so I had to print off a map and go to every location on there crossing off the ones I had already picked up.
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There is more variety of attacks in Infamous 2, though it loses some of the grittiness and hopelessness of the original. I certainly wouldn't recommend playing them back to back as you will burn out real quick.

If you are going for the platinum in Infamous 1 I would recommend getting the stunts out of the way as soon as possible before you start despawning lots of enemies as you take back sections of town. Also print off a shard map and cross them off as you go, this will relieve some of the frustration later when you are hunting for your last few. I didn't so I had to print off a map and go to every location on there crossing off the ones I had already picked up.
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question wrt shards - I've avoided picking up any shards in the second area so my count should be for neon only. is it advised to get all of the ones in neon now before progressing? is there anywhere that shows you how many you've collected?
 
i may have missed it, but anyone here besides affa play/like crimsonland? thinking about a last minute purchase since the discount is kind of nice.

 
handsomepete said:
question wrt shards - I've avoided picking up any shards in the second area so my count should be for neon only. is it advised to get all of the ones in neon now before progressing? is there anywhere that shows you how many you've collected?
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I believe it shows how many you have compared to how any available whenever you collect one. Or the pause screen? I don't know.

I do know that I rarely went out of my way for shards and progressed just fine. Got most after I beat the game. Unless you're having trouble with a mission and need more life, just collect them as you see them while doing your regular stuff.
 
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I have a solution for those case-less games...go digital like I did!

I didn't buy Ground Zeroes for PS4 from Gamestop because I'd have to go there and I'm sticking to my 1 PS4 game at a time and digital only rule. I still have ACIV to finish. fuck you backlog, I'm not doing you this gen!

That TLOU deal sounds tempting, but I'm digital, but I do have a PS3 copy even though having it as a digital game on PS3. Maybe I should just do the upgrade and ebay it to fund the PS4 digital copy that I'll buy. Glad I had that conversation with myself.

Played more MGS4 last night, nearing the end of ACT 2. I stopped before fighting the boss. I hear ACT 3 is pretty cutscene heavy but that 4 and 5 are better and longer, either way enjoying the game. It's nice to have decent shooting finally, got a sniper rifle last night and started picking guys off. It was fun. Also somewhere in Geraudo Valley or something on Ocarina (3DS)...I will finish you this time, I will...have to hurry though...Episode 4 of Walking Dead Season 2 coming out today and will tempt me!

 
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handsomepete said:
question wrt shards - I've avoided picking up any shards in the second area so my count should be for neon only. is it advised to get all of the ones in neon now before progressing? is there anywhere that shows you how many you've collected?
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If you want to collect them all that is probably a good idea as that minimizes where you will have to backtrack if you miss any.

 
handsomepete said:
question wrt shards - I've avoided picking up any shards in the second area so my count should be for neon only. is it advised to get all of the ones in neon now before progressing? is there anywhere that shows you how many you've collected?
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I forgot and had to google it myself. On the game saves/load screen it is part of the summary. I know I have seen it before but that was years ago on my original play through.

 
jkam said:
I have a solution for those case-less games...go digital like I did!

I didn't buy Ground Zeroes for PS4 from Gamestop because I'd have to go there and I'm sticking to my 1 PS4 game at a time and digital only rule. I still have ACIV to finish. fuck you backlog, I'm not doing you this gen!

That TLOU deal sounds tempting, but I'm digital, but I do have a PS3 copy even though having it as a digital game on PS3. Maybe I should just do the upgrade and ebay it to fund the PS4 digital copy that I'll buy. Glad I had that conversation with myself.

Played more MGS4 last night, nearing the end of ACT 2. I stopped before fighting the boss. I hear ACT 3 is pretty cutscene heavy but that 4 and 5 are better and longer, either way enjoying the game. It's nice to have decent shooting finally, got a sniper rifle last night and started picking guys off. It was fun. Also somewhere in Geraudo Valley or something on Ocarina (3DS)...I will finish you this time, I will...have to hurry though...Episode 4 of Walking Dead Season 2 coming out today and will tempt me!
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I'm sorry, dude, but you need to give up on this all digital thing. It defies all logic and is one of the most un-CAG-like ways to game.

Keep going in MGS. Dat Act 4!

 
CAiNiAC said:
I haven't tried Kid Icarus yet, but in the games I've mentioned the accuracy is spot on. You literally cannot be more accurate than simply touching the part of the screen you want to aim at. With some games the unconventional controls just click. I wasn't a fan of Metroid Prime on gamecube, but the rerelease on Wii with updated motion controls was a thoroughly enjoyable experience, especially considering I hadn't finished it originally.

Dont get me wrong I love the 2D metroids and castlevanias, and still prefer them to the excursions into 3D, but the FPS metroids are solid experiences as well. Hell even Other M was fair. It certainly wasn't the steaming pile most make it out to be. I think most people just cling to what they grew up with as a child and attach to their first major introductions to IPs. I get that, I have more than my fair share of nostalgia classics I'd march for.
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I believe you. Just about everyone who finishes those stylus-heavy games sings their praise. There's even a sizable crowd who claim Kid Icarus is the best game on 3DS. I just don't have enough patience to learn the controls. Wish I could blame it on being left-handed or something but I'm just terrible at it.

You're spot-on about the Prime Collection. The controls are surprisingly...great. One of the few Wii games I can say that about. Fun and accurate. Can't imagine it with a controller. Never played them on GameCube for the very reason you mentioned. I was stubborn and refused to think a 1st person Metroid would work. Just as I didn't think cel-shaded Zelda made sense. I was dumb.
 
mpaullin said:
I'm sorry, dude, but you need to give up on this all digital thing. It defies all logic and is one of the most un-CAG-like ways to game.

Keep going in MGS. Dat Act 4!
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I've been here since 2004, I know every single trick of the trade. I never said I wouldn't use physical CAG deals to fuel my digital goods. Almost every place now you can use your credit to buy point cards. Amazon, Gamestop, etc. I don't buy many "new" games on launch if at all. I can always wait for deals or make one out of thin air if I need to. I'll always have Plus which is another great option for cheap digital games. I have a wealthy PS3 backlog which can cushion me in between big PS4 releases if I choose to get them when they launch. I've made the effort to go digital and seriously can't ever imagine going back.

 
GatorBeerGeek said:
I do not know if they count against the store. I have actually had employees tell me you should just beat this in a week and return it for something else on multiple occasions. I thought that was odd, but they seem to advertise the policy so that customers take advantage of it. I do not understand why they would want to do that if someone was already buying. I could see them possibly using it as a sales tactic if someone was on the fence in hopes they don't bother returning it in time, but not announcing it to someone at the register with money in hand.
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I've returned plenty of things to Gamestop and never had a problem. It's indeed a very liberal policy. But a few times I was made to feel guilty about it or pressured to do an exchange. An employee once said it showed as a lost sale to the district manager but again they could have been bullshitting me...or perhaps joking. I just know that no store is ever prepared for the CAG/SD effect.
 
PSN has so many promos that I end up just rolling in credit without having to do anything. Between the E3 promotions, games for free points, and the occasional trade-in of physical games (when they're on sale on PSN) for PSN credit, I haven't had to add a real cent to my account this year.  I've added quite a few games, though, and still have $35 in credit.

Plus the whole bit about physical being cheaper...that's a bullshit generalization IMO. Tons of games never get all that cheap but get great deals on PSN. Other games drop like a rock and are never worth anything on TIV. Sure if you're going to buy, play, and immediately flip games then that's a great approach, but I take forever to finish a game and that doesn't work for me at all.

 
jkam said:
I've been here since 2004, I know every single trick of the trade. I never said I wouldn't use physical CAG deals to fuel my digital goods. Almost every place now you can use your credit to buy point cards. Amazon, Gamestop, etc. I don't buy many "new" games on launch if at all. I can always wait for deals or make one out of thin air if I need to. I'll always have Plus which is another great option for cheap digital games. I have a wealthy PS3 backlog which can cushion me in between big PS4 releases if I choose to get them when they launch. I've made the effort to go digital and seriously can't ever imagine going back.
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That's all well and good. You are still going to be spending more and doing more running around than those of us who decide to use the disc drive.


Thermopyle said:
Plus the whole bit about physical being cheaper...that's a bullshit generalization IMO. Tons of games never get all that cheap but get great deals on PSN.
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I'd love to see your list of such titles. Even if you put a pretty respectable one together, it doesn't excuse the fact that this is not the case for the vast majority of titles.

 
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mpaullin said:
That's all well and good. You are still going to be spending more and doing more running around than those of us who decide to use the disc drive.
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I don't think I've left my house for a "deal" in more than 2 years. Seriously. Haven't had to. I'll admit Plus is a decent part of that especially with some of their sales. As for 100% digital it's not as if I won't ever break the rule if the gettin is good or it makes more sense but currently I don't feel a need at all. I guess I might end up paying a little bit more here and there but so far that hasn't been the case. If anything I've probably made more money off of selling my "backlog or finished games" off. I realize that won't be there in the future but I've also made a conscious effort that I don't want to be sitting on a huge backlog for the PS4 and I won't be getting an X1 this gen. I'm not saying it's the choice for everyone but so far I'm really happy where I stand and I have a boatload of stuff to play and isn't that the real point? I don't want the physical stuff cluttering up the house anymore and I'm not a collector so if it works for me, why not? I haven't played Infamous Second Son yet but I still need to play Infamous 2 so I'm ok with waiting. Seriously I'm good, thanks for your concern over my well-being. It's good to know you care. :)

EDIT: I'll admit it, that going digital is also a conscious effort for me to limit myself. I don't need to buy game "X" just because I got it for "X" amount just to have it sit on my shelf. I'm not doing it anymore. I have so much to play. At this point I'd rather play than buy.

EDIT 2: I also just bought a 3DS game. Castlevania Mirror of Fate. I bought the physical game because Nintendo's digital prices are a joke. With Sony it makes more sense to go digital since they have way more freebies, options, and sales. How long do we really have before games are on the Netflix, Spotify model?

 
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breakfuss said:
I've returned plenty of things to Gamestop and never had a problem. It's indeed a very liberal policy. But a few times I was made to feel guilty about it or pressured to do an exchange. An employee once said it showed as a lost sale to the district manager but again they could have been bullshitting me...or perhaps joking. I just know that no store is ever prepared for the CAG/SD effect.
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I believe Gator was told that but I bet it was not a manager. As a former retail manager, returns were used for bonus pay and a reflection of service provided. If the budget is not met it directly reflects the actual take home pay of managers. This is pretty much an industry standard. bottom line people do not care they just want to play for free--

 
mpaullin said:
I'd love to see your list of such titles. Even if you put a pretty respectable one together, it doesn't excuse the fact that this is not the case for the vast majority of titles.
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Just going off stuff I've bought? The Tales games, Catherine, everything in the $.99 flash sales, lots of stuff in the Golden Week sales, just about everything by Atlus, most Vita games (basically anything not on clearance somewhere or a combo-deal), most of the FF games, etc..

I mean, sure, there are plenty of great deals to be had for $5 or under for older titles on physical, but quite a few games retain their value for years yet the TIV ends up being less than you'd get if you'd had patience and waited for a good PSN sale instead.

Obviously I'm not addressing GS "renting" and the like with this, though I did touch on it earlier with the mention that it takes me too long to finish a game for that to work.

 
Vigilante said:
So nobody here is that desperate for plats, right?

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/333267-cheap-fast-easy-platinums-megamind-up-terminator/

...Except for Gator, maybe, though I wouldn't be all that surprised if he already has the plats for those.
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I platted Megamind, and it was decent. Probably more-so if you had a kid to play it with, but I still had fun with it. Never bothered with those other two games, heard Terminator was shitty at best and UP didn't look too appealing to me. I also just put that rcerboss dude on ignore, can't stand him. (new practice, no one from this thread will get that treatment, but when I run into these people I dont like again....ignore!)

And for the DLC thing, I didn't forget, I just gave up. I was a quarter ways through my DL list and had like 50 different things listed and couldn't figure what to lump together, so many different pieces, tons of season passes, etc. Bottom line...my answer to everything would be -anything and everything, but mainly SP- Borderlands 1 and/or 2. Close second to some answers would be SP for Resogun, depending on what they come out with. I will wait for sales on some things, but most stuff if I think I'll play it right away, price doesn't matter to me.

 
This is going to be a really long day. No idea why the kids woke up so early. Might need to squeeze a nap in when the wife gets home.

Bummer. Tonight's geeks who drink pub trivia night too.

 
Backlog_Overload said:
Why such a hard-on for attacking the way Gator likes to spend his time lately? I don't get it.
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He knows I am not a pussy and will not report him like others he pulls his keyboard cowboy antics on. He hasn't had an outlet for it in a while so he is trying to catch up on those missed weeks of being a dick.

 
re: physical vs digital

just wanted to yet again bring up that I got assassin's creed brotherhood for less than $2 at gamestop yesterday.

people frequently extoll the virtue of being able to trade physical games, but they must all mean resell since trading requires you to be relatively quick and early in the game's life with your purchases. I bought portal 2 used months ago and I can still sell it for what I paid. I can trade it for a quarter or something.
 
handsomepete said:
re: physical vs digital

just wanted to yet again bring up that I got assassin's creed brotherhood for less than $2 at gamestop yesterday.

people frequently extoll the virtue of being able to trade physical games, but they must all mean resell since trading requires you to be relatively quick and early in the game's life with your purchases. I bought portal 2 used months ago and I can still sell it for what I paid. I can trade it for a quarter or something.
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Yup. I sell most of my games, unless like you say, I bought to play right away and explicitly plan to trade-in ASAP. Most TiV's are shit unless you do this bonus with that coupon but only on this day at that time....fuck all that.

 
handsomepete said:
guys, I'm afraid that the first infamous is very mediocre. I like it just fine, but I hope the second one is a little more engaging. the stunts are a nuisance, but I'm glad that I got all but three done before I left neon.

stotch - going to try to finish that velocity ultra perfect 50 run before you.

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2 is better than 1, but I enjoyed 1 quite a bit as well. Some of the missions were a tad repetitive but that's about it. The stunts were stupid, that's why you don't bother with them since they're completely optional.

 
handsomepete said:
re: physical vs digital

just wanted to yet again bring up that I got assassin's creed brotherhood for less than $2 at gamestop yesterday.

people frequently extoll the virtue of being able to trade physical games, but they must all mean resell since trading requires you to be relatively quick and early in the game's life with your purchases. I bought portal 2 used months ago and I can still sell it for what I paid. I can trade it for a quarter or something.
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Case in point the game I sold today, RF Armageddon. Decided not to play it, and got back more than I payed for it. If I had bought it digital, it'd be either play it or just consider it a loss.

 
I almost guarantee that anyone who buys games physically and know what they are doing is working off of credit for the most part. They will go on and on how they have $500 or more of credit. There was a cost involved at some point. I'm not saying you didn't make out like a bandit. There is always a cost though. I used to buy and re-sell stuff and I kept spreadsheets to calculate true profit. If I sold something I excluded ebay fees, shipping, packaging, tape, paypal etc. I never went as far to include gas prices although I'm sure some do. In the end the real profit came in on clearance systems and a handful of top tier games like getting Gamecube Zelda Collections at TRU for $10 and reselling for $50.

I no longer want to go to Best Buy to spend my time dealing with some young kid who can't work a cash register to trade in game "X" to get $20 off on game "Y". I know most of you have a magical gamestop and best buy where they all know your name and they are right next to each other and it only takes 5 seconds. I did that for years. I'm done with it.

Physical games can be super cheap. Assassin's for $2 is great.

I'm at the point where I'd rather wait for most of the value to be sucked out of game and pay $20, $10, or less. If you buy new release "X" because you got it for $30 instead of $60 and used only credit but it sits on your shelf for 2 years what is the point? If you play it right away to flip it back for profit, good for you, I don't have the time to finish anything that fast anymore except for maybe on handhelds.

I'm not saying it's not better to go physical or less costly, I'm saying it doesn't work for me anymore. Digital is my new route.

P.S. - People tend to forget time is money too.

 
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that's why you buy digital either for something you know for sure you're going to like, or it's a price point that you don't care about taking a "loss". i like having a mix of both. digital is easy to pickup and play whenever, and physical is there not just for show, but could wind up funding something in the future. i've made almost a grand in the last 2 weeks from trades. spending about $30 for a few yard sale flips, and the rest coming from games on my shelf. sure, some of those games were only $2-3 tiv at gamestop, but with the walmart 50% and having a smaller game store around, i was still able to make good on those as well. 

 
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