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Occasionally Pinball Arcade pisses me off. I completed Grand Finale in Theatre of Magic last night and god dammit the damn goal didn't unlock and that's all I needed for the wizard goals/trophy. I had gotten two locks for multi ball (then only trunk needed to start it), then got Midnight Madness which was the last thing needed for Grand Finale, so I started GF and was playing it by shooting the trunk over and over with MM running (good strategy), and then MM timed out and my last second shot to the trunk started multi ball in GF. I then completed MAGIC THEATRE with multi ball running but got no goal unlock/trophy. :(

 
pharmacrest said:
Gator already said what I was going to say, but do you not boost any online trophies? If you do whats the diff? If you dont, I still dont respect you. They are just trophies. Vag.
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I have legit gotten the ac:b mp trophies (360), killzone mercs mp, and umvc3 plat. that's a lot of time I sank in to that shit, but it was totally fun so I don't regret it. nowadays my time's at a premium so I'm happy to glitch through some trophies if I just want to add it to my collection, I don't really care about legitness anymore. I think I'd actually let someone beat the last vanquish challenge for me at this point if it were an option.

I'm having a good time trying to get good at tlou mp. I like it when I have fun playing games.

reread the note from steam support - looks like they're still working on the problem, but the trick might be to boot it up and let it sit at the title screen for several minutes until you're all the way logged in to steam. I yutzed with it for a bit and it seems like the steam login could take as long as 5+ minutes after you're at the title.
 
Vigilante said:
Save manipulation =/= boosting online trophies

Also, online trophies suck, so I welcome any means of obtaining them painlessly. Thanatophobia was so fun and rewarding to get legitimately.
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I dont have any doubt you had fun getting that trophy. But how is save manipulation to get a trophy not the same as boosting to get a trophy? Boosting is another form of manipulation.

 
I would not call either of them cheating at all.  If the developers have a method that allows you to get the trophy in a certain way and you take advantage of that while still accomplishing the goal, then so be it.  Are they less legit than someone who suffered through it the way that was intended? Absolutely.  I am perfectly OK with that though.

Now if you are taking a save file and editing it somehow so you can get a trophy outside of actually playing the game, that to me is cheating.

 
Games like Tomb Raider practically beg for boosting because the MP is barren and boring.  Trying to legitimately level up to 60 in MP would take forever.  The servers might shut down before you made it.  

Boosting took the form of I'll let you spawn and shoot me in the face and then I'll respawn and shoot you in the face.  Repeat for 10 hours. 

If it was so bad, then why did I boost?  Because I liked the single player game so much that I wanted to get the plat.  A plat or 100%ing a game is something i reserve for the games that really resonated with me.  With finite time and work / life to balance, this status is reserved for the few games that I want to set apart from the rest. 

Boosting for Bulletstorm was actually kind of fun because the boost process involved actually playing the MP as the designers meant for it to be played. 

 
GatorBeerGeek said:
I would not call either of them cheating at all. If the developers have a method that allows you to get the trophy in a certain way and you take advantage of that while still accomplishing the goal, then so be it. Are they less legit than someone who suffered through it the way that was intended? Absolutely. I am perfectly OK with that though.

Now if you are taking a save file and editing it somehow so you can get a trophy outside of actually playing the game, that to me is cheating.
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Gator, trophy ethics+ this thread= Asking for trouble
 
GatorBeerGeek said:
I would not call either of them cheating at all. If the developers have a method that allows you to get the trophy in a certain way and you take advantage of that while still accomplishing the goal, then so be it. Are they less legit than someone who suffered through it the way that was intended? Absolutely. I am perfectly OK with that though.

Now if you are taking a save file and editing it somehow so you can get a trophy outside of actually playing the game, that to me is cheating.
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Agreed, re-signing saves to pop trophies is cheating. Boosting online MP? Nah, there's no rule that says you cant play the game how you want to. I'd say taking advantage of save system work arounds is iffy, but I wouldn't lose sleep over doing it, or think any less of one of you guys for doing it either.

Having said that, I would totally feel fine cheating to get that trophy from last night, since I think I already earned it twice :wall:

 
needavacation said:
Games like Tomb Raider practically beg for boosting because the MP is barren and boring. Trying to legitimately level up to 60 in MP would take forever. The servers might shut down before you made it.

Boosting took the form of I'll let you spawn and shoot me in the face and then I'll respawn and shoot you in the face. Repeat for 10 hours.

If it was so bad, then why did I boost? Because I liked the single player game so much that I wanted to get the plat. A plat or 100%ing a game is something i reserve for the games that really resonated with me. With finite time and work / life to balance, this status is reserved for the few games that I want to set apart from the rest.

Boosting for Bulletstorm was actually kind of fun because the boost process involved actually playing the MP as the designers meant for it to be played.
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amusingly I'll probably to try to get all of the tlou mp trophies, but I'll bet I don't plat the game because of the single player unless it's actually as good as all you wangs proclaim.
 
handsomepete said:
amusingly I'll probably to try to get all of the tlou mp trophies, but I'll bet I don't plat the game because of the single player unless it's actually as good as all you wangs proclaim.
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Oh it is! but the tough ones will be the survivor difficulty and grounded... if you can get the MP the Plat is very much attainable and the single player story is awesome!

 
handsomepete said:
amusingly I'll probably to try to get all of the tlou mp trophies, but I'll bet I don't plat the game because of the single player unless it's actually as good as all you wangs proclaim.
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Still haven't found my groove in tlou MP. I'm at my second 100% threat and I stopped playing a few months ago. Too scared to pick it up just to screw everything up. Maybe if i play on ps3 the b-squad will be left? The game has some serious matchmaking issues.

 
Vigilante said:
Good point. I'll concede that they're similar.
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Now that I respect. Great gamer? Good for you, but I dont care how many trophies you or someone else has. At some point we have all manipulated something to get a trophy. I dont consider it cheating either though. Its just another way to play and if it makes us happy then I am all for it.

 
needavacation said:
Games like Tomb Raider practically beg for boosting because the MP is barren and boring. Trying to legitimately level up to 60 in MP would take forever. The servers might shut down before you made it.

Boosting took the form of I'll let you spawn and shoot me in the face and then I'll respawn and shoot you in the face. Repeat for 10 hours.

If it was so bad, then why did I boost? Because I liked the single player game so much that I wanted to get the plat. A plat or 100%ing a game is something i reserve for the games that really resonated with me. With finite time and work / life to balance, this status is reserved for the few games that I want to set apart from the rest.

Boosting for Bulletstorm was actually kind of fun because the boost process involved actually playing the MP as the designers meant for it to be played.
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I really liked that game too. So much, I suffered through the online twice to get the plat on both PS3 and PS4. It was a long process, but I did both with a friend and we had fun chatting while we were going through the MP.

I hope you really were not doing what you said though. You do not take turns shooting each other in the face. The best method is to shoot each other with a grenade launcher at the exact same time :)

 
tylerh1701 said:
Looks like one of the PS Blog idiots has taken it to a whole new level of retardation.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/08/06/california-man-sues-sony-over-killzone-shadow-fall
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Haven't you heard anything under 1080p is blurry and burns your eyes! 3 or 4 friends of friends have gone blind due to owning a XBONE. If this guy was smart he'd get one of those as he'd have a lot more to sue over.

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-Get as much gold as you can with the first guy (Sir Lee, Level 0) without fighting any bosses.
-Hope that you get a Grace Rune and equip it ASAP to make enemies and bosses easier (more Grace Runes = easier time).
-Only get the Barbarian King and Paladin class upgrades, unlock the Shinobi class, then focus exclusively on increasing your Health, Attack, and Weight Limit (only just enough to carry new armor upgrades).

I cannot respect anyone who uses that exploit. :shame:
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Didn't you use the Wolfenstein Uber glitch to get its Plat? C'mon Vag, don't be that hypocritical Vag.
 
he's proud of his legit rogue legacy trophy, let him be and talk more about the Inner City Kids game for vita.

I mean seriously what the fuck is that thing
 
Surgeon Simulator out next week on PS4:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TChZftadNpA

No word on price. Looks like goofy fun. I'll probably get it. 

 
Earning trophies in any way other than the dev intended is cheating. No dev ever intends for online trophies to be boosted, it defeats the purpose of them even existing in the first place if they are created with the intent for anyone to simply circumvent the required challenge and luck needed to acquire them.

That being said I couldn't care less what anyone does regarding trophy acquisition. To me a person with highest ranked trophy score is the same as someone with the lowest as that number holds literally zero value. I'm going to judge you on how I get along with you and how you treat others. You know, character, that thing that matters.

 
CAiNiAC said:
Earning trophies in any way other than the dev intended is cheating. No dev ever intends for online trophies to be boosted, it defeats the purpose of them even existing in the first place if they are created with the intent for anyone to simply circumvent the required challenge and luck needed to acquire them.

That being said I couldn't care less what anyone does regarding trophy acquisition. To me a person with highest ranked trophy score is the same as someone with the lowest as that number holds literally zero value. I'm going to judge you on how I get along with you and how you treat others. You know, character, that thing that matters.
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No self-respecting dev should ever intend for online trophies to exist, let alone be boosted. :shame:

 
CAiNiAC said:
Earning trophies in any way other than the dev intended is cheating. No dev ever intends for online trophies to be boosted, it defeats the purpose of them even existing in the first place if they are created with the intent for anyone to simply circumvent the required challenge and luck needed to acquire them.

That being said I couldn't care less what anyone does regarding trophy acquisition. To me a person with highest ranked trophy score is the same as someone with the lowest as that number holds literally zero value. I'm going to judge you on how I get along with you and how you treat others. You know, character, that thing that matters.
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You hate pineapple. Your character is already in question.

 
CAiNiAC said:
Earning trophies in any way other than the dev intended is cheating. No dev ever intends for online trophies to be boosted, it defeats the purpose of them even existing in the first place if they are created with the intent for anyone to simply circumvent the required challenge and luck needed to acquire them.

That being said I couldn't care less what anyone does regarding trophy acquisition. To me a person with highest ranked trophy score is the same as someone with the lowest as that number holds literally zero value. I'm going to judge you on how I get along with you and how you treat others. You know, character, that thing that matters.
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When did it go from trophies to a person's character? Drivel all the way.

 
CAiNiAC said:
Earning trophies in any way other than the dev intended is cheating. No dev ever intends for online trophies to be boosted, it defeats the purpose of them even existing in the first place if they are created with the intent for anyone to simply circumvent the required challenge and luck needed to acquire them.

That being said I couldn't care less what anyone does regarding trophy acquisition. To me a person with highest ranked trophy score is the same as someone with the lowest as that number holds literally zero value. I'm going to judge you on how I get along with you and how you treat others. You know, character, that thing that matters.
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I wish I could give you half a like for the second paragraph. We will have to just agree to disagree on the first one.

Most of the developers do not give a fuck about trophies at all. They only do them because they are required to by the console makers. Do some care? Sure. Those that really care do not have online trophy requirements that can achieved in private matches. If they allow that, they either have to be ok with boosting or are incredibly naive.

 
SJD said:
When did it go from trophies to a person's character? Drivel all the way.
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Clearly you must have skimmed keywords rather than actually reading it with any sort of context. Trophies and character aren't connected at all, that was my point. Get the fuck outta here with your drivel finger pointing.

 
GatorBeerGeek said:
I wish I could give you half a like for the second paragraph. We will have to just agree to disagree on the first one.

Most of the developers do not give a fuck about trophies at all. They only do them because they are required to by the console makers. Do some care? Sure. Those that really care do not have online trophy requirements that can achieved in private matches. If they allow that, they 1either have to be ok with boosting or are incredibly naive.
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I believe they implement them to extend the longevity of a game artificially. I see as a positive that both AC games will launch without mp and hence, no online trophies (except the co-op in Unity, I guess).

 
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CAiNiAC said:
Clearly you must have skimmed keywords rather than actually reading it with any sort of context. Trophies and character aren't connected at all, that was my point. Get the fuck outta here with your drivel finger pointing.
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No, you just sneaked another anti-trophy argument by, because that is clearly not a controversial topic here. Sit down, Breakfuss jr.

 
Do we need to start thinking about revoking SJDs license to post here?  Come on bro, simma (simmias?) down!

 
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I boosted the hell out of some of the AC: Brotherhood achievements. The one where you have to get to level 50 would've taken forever had I not boosted. I don't know who came up with The Fisting Party method, but it was brilliant. It still took awhile even with boosting.

I also boosted some of the more obscure Tomb Raider achievements, but got the level 60 achievement legitimately, if collecting rescue packs by myself in a solo private game is considered legit.

I think those are the only ones.

 
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SJD said:
Eh, what did I do again?
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Cainiac made a completely valid post with his opinions about trophies. While I may not completely agree with that post, you latched onto the second paragraph and apparently avoided reading the first sentence where he separated it from the trophy discussion. You then proceeded to try and flame things up by calling out that paragraph.

Cainiac is a cool dude. We may not agree on everything, but if we all agreed on everything the world would be pretty fucking boring. I would love to hang out over a few beers with both him and mpaulin even though neither of them agree with me on trophies. They both will discuss the topic without become inflammatory jerks. That is all anyone can ask, and they seem to be the kind of people I like to hang out with.

 
Anything you say has just been completely invalidated by likening me to breakfuss. Everyone knows I'm in the dont give a shit about trophies department, other than completing a few games I absolutely adore. I didnt sneak a underhanded attack in. The thing is I dont argue for the sake of arguing, and I dont vehemently counter and vomit all over any perspective that differs from my own. I listen to this place gush about trophies every single day and yet here I am always returning because I like you guys.

Even you SJD. Sometimes. Now suck it

 
Broken toenails, Fridge stories, trophy boosting arguments, and general bitchy-ness lately (with people who don't like things like The Beatles and beans wtf?) I think this thread has jumped the shark.

I didn't think it was possible for this thread either since it's 98.5% shenanigans anyway but it's been a rough week or 2 around here.

 
I have no idea what's going on here or what the lame ass bickering is about, just seems like someone's trying to rile someone up but it's not even clear who.

and we're STILL not talking about Inner City Kids.

surgeon simulator though, aces. I'm in on any game that's historically been genre associated with octodad.
 
jkam said:
Broken toenails, Fridge stories, trophy boosting arguments, and general bitchy-ness lately (with people who don't like things like The Beatles and beans wtf?) I think this thread has jumped the shark.

I didn't think it was possible for this thread either since it's 98.5% shenanigans anyway but it's been a rough week or 2 around here.
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Jumped the shark!?!?! I thought it was just getting good (minus the fridge story)

 
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