He needs to get KIK'ing.
This is the same article I posted back a few posts, but question/answer #4 directly address
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wl_uQOABxg
Not to approve of snakey being an ass as usual, but the game is actually a lot better than it looks. There's a remarkable amount of depth and refinement in how it plays, that's incredibly satisfying and intense once you get past the arguably mediocre presentation (though I actually like the way it looks; it does a lot with a limited number of pixels). It's definitely designed for local MP though, so if you don't have someone to play with I couldn't recommend it at full price, though I definitely think it's worth checking out when it gets cheaper/free on PS+ if you like fighting games in any respect.
I'm not exactly sure what's so hilarious about this. I personally applaud Polygon (and a few other sites) for starting to review games less as simple technical products ("this looks/plays amazingly well, yadha yadha") and more as any other piece of media would be critiqued, paying attention to themes and contexts that have been ignored for a long time. I guess some people don't have an issue with the sort of sexist portrayal of women in games like Bayonetta, or even prefer it that way, but I can't support that kind of product and am glad people in the industry are starting to call out the crappy way women are portrayed in many games.
NOBODY IS SAFE ANYMORE!
He probably already has it, you just need to pay 1000 tokens for it.
I didn't read the article because Arthur is an idiot but isn't the character based on the fact that she is an over-sexualized female who kicks a ton of ass? If she was an under-sexualized female who kicks a ton of ass the game would score higher? I'm not saying people don't have a right to an opinion but that seems kind of silly. If you don't like something don't buy it. It's simple. I can't stand people that grab something knowing full well what they are getting only to complain about it. It's like buying Lollipop Chainsaw or Onechanbara and then complaining about it because there isn't enough Mario in it. You can pretty much tell what you are getting straight up from the covers of these games. Do people buy playboy and complain about the over-sexualization of woman in it?
This is such a ridiculous comparison I don't even see the point in responding to it. You're basically justifying the terrible portrayal of women in this and other games simply because the product is "as advertised". Why should it be like this? Does the fact the character is nothing but sex appeal add anything to the experience? Does it make it a better game? Would removing said sexualization make it a lesser game?
I get your point completely, but Bayonetta is meant to be over the top. So the oversexualized side of the character fits.
wake me when all other forms of media have eradicated sexualization of women and then I'll help make a stink about video games.
So basically you go to the super market and you pick up mustard thinking it's ketchup? You need Arthur to tell you it's mustard? What exactly are the implications in a social context? Girls are going to start running around in tight leather outfits kicking alien and evil creature ass? Why can't you just think for yourself? Again, you can love it or hate it...all I'm saying is you have the right to buy it or not. Speak with your wallet. If you don't like poor female characters (which again is your opinion which may differ from someone else's) then don't buy games with poor female characters in it.
According to Arthur removing said sexualization would make it a better game, so how is it not the same
ing thing turned the other way? Silly, confirmed.
Isn't PSN down for maintenance? Saw lots of people complaining about not being able to log on to Destiny. Hilarious it's on a federal holiday (also Thanksgiving in Canada).
You've completely missed the point, which makes me arguing about it fairly useless. It's not about him having to tell me what the game is, it's about making a point that these sorts of characters need to go away, and bringing it to the forefront of people's minds who most likely don't even consider the fact that, hey, maybe this character doesn't need to be a sex object because that's just how it's always been. It doesn't even have to be about Bayonetta, there are hundreds of other games that feature terrible female characters designed for nothing but sex appeal; they just don't flaunt them on the cover as often. Are you going to tell me these are OK as well, or does simply taking them out of the focus suddenly make them worth criticizing?
This isn't about eradicating sexualizing women, that's always going to exist. It's about making a point that developers need to stop falling back on making these shallow sex objects that stand in as the vast majority of female characters. You can find plenty of examples of well crafted female characters in any other medium without even trying. With video games you have a few choice examples that show that, surprise surprise it's actually possible to write a female character that's more than a pretty face and pair of breasts, and then a whole lot of crap.
Why do they (Bayonetta or others) need to go away? You can honestly tell me there aren't some girls or women out there who find Bayonetta empowering and awesome? There were probably girls cos-playing as her at Comic Con. It's just an over generalization based on one opinion. It's just not realistic to remove all these characters. You think in the real world a woman has never used her sexuality to get ahead or get one over on someone? It's silly to try to shoebox all this stuff, it's a broad weird world out there. There have also been games with stronger woman lately too, Tomb Raider, Last Of Us, etc. but I don't see why they can't co-exist.
You're making more ridiculous statements. Why is it unrealistic if these characters go away (or at least are vastly reduced)? You're talking like the sort of extremists that are now sending rape and death threats to people (most of them women) who are speaking out against this sort of thing, because removing that sex appeal among other things is somehow going to ruin their games. Can you see why this might be a problem? It's fostering a view of gaming that games are just created as expensive toys for men, which is stifling the medium and allowing for the sort of rampant man babies that associate themselves so strongly with them to continue doing so because these games are made solely for them and nobody is willing to challenge that fact.
Girls do this all the time
Should any single representation of gender be considered sexist? No. So I agree with you there. The problem here is that we have patterned representations that do not well express the diversity of the group and focus only on certain aspects. In the case of games, women are clearly hyper sexualized. I don't see how that's debatable.
Just adds to my lack of desire to want to leave the country. Although, I guess we have ebola here, but good god.
Can't believe this is back in convo, but I'm not going to argue, just think that this "oversexualization of women" thing is so overblown. Video games are a creative medium, largely centered around fantasy worlds/realms that are created in the minds of the people who write them. They also shouldn't be used to be your moral compass/source of social development. They are entertainment and that's all, not some educational material where profound thoughts are meant to be discovered.
One of my fent me a message asking how I was playing Destiny, but I've had no issues. I logged in at like 1030 and haven't had any problems.
While I agree with this part of your statement, there are a lot of impressionable young minds out there that these games are aimed to, and they may form the wrong idea/notions. Is that the developer/publisher's responsibility? I don't know the answer to that. But other industries don't seem as concerned (see Minaj, Nikki).
Dismissing games as just entertainment is like dismissing film and literature as such. Treating it like it's still a niche hobby is part of the problem, when video games are rather obviously a huge medium now with room for more intelligent and mature experiences than just mindless ways to pass time.
Yes, but games have a rating system, just like movies do. Games with more mature themes are appropriately rated as such. It's not the developers responsibility to not make games with said themes, it's the responsibility of parents to restrict access, just like people do with movies. The problem I have with arguments like yours is that you want to eliminate a specific character type/style of game/whatever, just because it may be offensive to you or to a younger/more impressionable audience. While that is with good intention, those of us who are "more mature" or not offended shouldn't be deprived of those experiences if we so choose to have them.
ed up autocorrect system ever. "Friends send" gets turned into "fent". Even when I just typed it there, it turned it into fent. Seriously, who the programs this shit?Steve Jobs' ghost.iOS 8 seriously has the most
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