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ackbar7 said:
This, so very this. All the other changes pale in comparison. Every time I see Hayden Christianson in RotJ it just fills me with rage.
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lol why? I mean it's ridiculous that they did it to begin with but it doesn't actually impact the story in the same way the Greedo/Han thing does.

Then again it's been years since I've seen these films so my memory is fuzzy. I've been holding out on the complete collection going for around $60 or less..... which I have never seen lol.

 
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DNukem170 said:
I'd argue Greedo/Han doesn't change the story at all either.
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Maybe not the broad strokes, but it makes Han less of a renegade. Like I said, it's been years since I have seen these films, but I always found Han's transformation from lowlife to hero one of the more interesting parts of the first two films. Especially since Luke came off as a purehearted goody goody from the start. Having Greedo shoot first undoes a lot of that. It removes what was arguably his most immoral act in the film and just turns it into a simple case of self defense. It's a small detail in the overall plot, but it does have a big impact on Han's characterization.

With that one change, Han no longer starts the film off as somebody who's willing to do almost anything, even murder, to get the job done. And if you are watching the movie with a fresh set of eyes, it does diminish the transformation he undergoes in the first (and to a lesser degree the 2nd) film.

 
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Yea...maybe it's the pop culture osmosis talking, but I never really thought Han was an irredeemable scoundrel or anything like that. He was a jerkass with a heart of gold pretty much as soon as he appeared. Like most of Harrison Ford's characters, actually.

Plus, you could argue the scene makes Han even more badass. He's staring down impending death yet he calmly gets his blaster ready, dodges a laser beam, and kills Greedo effortlessly. 

 
Grievous and the Emperor look pretty nice. The rest are kind of "meh". Especially Yoda being stuck on there with no rhyme or reason. Still tempted to get these, but altogether they'd be just over $100. Considering the "Complete Saga" Blu-ray set is $10 cheaper, and most of the artwork isn't that great, I'm not sure I can justify it.

 
I assume the complete collection would include a ton of extras and special features these steelbooks dont correct?

 
I don't know if the current releases changed anything, but the initial Blu-ray releases only had commentaries as extras. Everything else was Complete Saga only.
 
DNukem170 said:
I don't know if the current releases changed anything, but the initial Blu-ray releases only had commentaries as extras. Everything else was Complete Saga only.
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Yeah that's what I thought, based on what Google turned up for the complete collection. I never could find anything definitive for the steelbooks but I'm not holding my breath.

 
The Complete Saga Blu-rays of the movies are the exact same as the standard edition Blu-rays. All the extras are on separate discs. And I believe there are only 3 discs in the Complete Saga, so you can't just pair those with the movie without making brand new discs.

 
starmask2k3 said:
What do you all think about this
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I think the price is going down because the market is over saturated with Star Wars videos at this point, that there literally isn't anyone on this blue marble we call Earth who doesn't own a copy of it (or in my instance 6 copies)...Or they produced a bazillion and one of these cases.

 
Number83 said:
I think the price is going down because the market is over saturated with Star Wars videos at this point, that there literally isn't anyone on this blue marble we call Earth who doesn't own a copy of it (or in my instance 6 copies)...Or they produced a bazillion and one of these cases.
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I don't own any Star Wars movies yet. Hell, aside from Humble Bundle and Steam I don't own any Star Wars anything (guess I'll make do with the audiobooks of the movies HB put up a couple of days ago :rofl: )

I have a colleague who owns them all but aside from Ep 2 and 3 they are VHS :rofl: Not because he hates, or even cares about, the Lucas edits either.....

It's all because of the price. I know, Star Wars is one of (if not) the most famous, culturally significant film series in existence. That also means I've seen it a bazillion times on TV though. Hell if I still had cable I would just DVR it off Spike, it seems like it plays there constantly.

I guess the point is there is still a market for these blu rays but hopefully you are right about the prices. If they would price these movies at even $10 apiece (with UV codes included) I'd be willing to jump on all 6 in a heartbeat (even the Lucased up version). But with Disney buying them I would think it's just as likely that they'll be vaulted for a decade or so (after the steelbooks run their course). Then again Foxconnect still seems to sell the blu ray collection and they are releasing an asinine number of movies so I don't know what's going on lol.

Whatever happened to the 3D remasters anyway? I remember Ep 1 being in theaters, I skipped it because Ep 1 is the only 1 I genuinely hated. But I never saw a home release of it, and I reckon they cancelled the rest?

 
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6 movies that are between 10 and 30 years olf should cost roughly $5 each making the price for the complete collection $30.  What a fucking rip off.  I don't own any of these movies and for these prices I never will.  Eventually when I can get all 6 of them for cheaper, I'd maybe go to $10 a movie (they really should be $5 though), my kids will be able to watch them.  My kids have no idea what Star Wars is.  They'll probably have a deal when that new one comes out in theaters this year.

 
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Tell me, how many of those $5 Blu-rays actually have extras? While a lot of them are transferred over from the DVDs, there are brand new extras on there.

Now that I think about it, how many $5 Blu-rays are there, actually? Walmart has a bunch of older releases for $8, but most places charge $10-$15 for the cheapest Blu-rays. Maybe if Sony didn't still charge thousands for patent rights...

It's also a law of economics. If people are wanting to pay $30-$40 for 3 movies, then that is what will be charged.

If you really want your kids to see Star Wars for cheap, either DVR a TV recording or buy the DVDs, as those have lost any and all value entirely.
 
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Blaster man said:
6 movies that are between 10 and 30 years olf should cost roughly $5 each making the price for the complete collection $30. What a fucking rip off. I don't own any of these movies and for these prices I never will. Eventually when I can get all 6 of them for cheaper, I'd maybe go to $10 a movie (they really should be $5 though), my kids will be able to watch them. My kids have no idea what Star Wars is. They'll probably have a deal when that new one comes out in theaters this year.
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Now that these are a Disney product you can bet they will milk fans out of every bit of money that they can.

 
...Except Fox still owns the films and I very much doubt they will EVER sell them to Disney, especially with the bad blood the Marvel movies have created.
 
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rcerboss said:
Whatever happened to the 3D remasters anyway? I remember Ep 1 being in theaters, I skipped it because Ep 1 is the only 1 I genuinely hated. But I never saw a home release of it, and I reckon they cancelled the rest?
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They released Phantom Menace, but the 3D remaster was terrible, causing a delay on Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith. This was about the same time that Lucas had sold the Franchise to Disney, and they just decided to shelve the rework for 2 and 3.

 
DNukem170 said:
...Except Fox still owns the films and I very much doubt they will EVER sell them to Disney, especially with the bad blood the Marvel movies have created.
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This I did not know.

What about the Clone Wars TV series (both of them)?


Number83 said:
They released Phantom Menace, but the 3D remaster was terrible, causing a delay on Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith. This was about the same time that Lucas had sold the Franchise to Disney, and they just decided to shelve the rework for 2 and 3.
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So they fucked up the 3D conversion then? That makes sense.

 
DNukem170 said:
Tell me, how many of those $5 Blu-rays actually have extras? While a lot of them are transferred over from the DVDs, there are brand new extras on there.

Now that I think about it, how many $5 Blu-rays are there, actually? Walmart has a bunch of older releases for $8, but most places charge $10-$15 for the cheapest Blu-rays. Maybe if Sony didn't still charge thousands for patent rights...

It's also a law of economics. If people are wanting to pay $30-$40 for 3 movies, then that is what will be charged.

If you really want your kids to see Star Wars for cheap, either DVR a TV recording or buy the DVDs, as those have lost any and all value entirely.
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Special features? I don't watch them and would say that 99% of the population skip them as well. The only time I watch a special feature is if it's a short. I don't really watch the documentary style special features (and this is what most special features are).

There's a thread in this very forum about cheap Blu Ray's at Best Buy. Half the movies are 3 decades old. That's really old for a movie to cost nearly full price.

Josef said:
Now that these are a Disney product you can bet they will milk fans out of every bit of money that they can.
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When I look at the price of the live action Disney owned properties, they lower in price like normal films do. It's just their animated films that don't so I'm not worried about that.

 
Blaster man said:
When I look at the price of the live action Disney owned properties, they lower in price like normal films do. It's just their animated films that don't so I'm not worried about that.
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I don't pay much attention to Disney outside of Marvel/Pixar, but that certainly isn't accurate on the Marvel side. They have gotten better this past year, but before that it wasn't hard to find some of their 3D Blu Rays for $50 or more. That is still their MSRP too (though to be fair many companies set ridiculous MSRP's for 3D Blus).

Even now though they still seem to be sitting pretty at around $35 or so, that's still pretty damn pricey for even a 3D movie.

 
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rcerboss said:
Whatever happened to the 3D remasters anyway? I remember Ep 1 being in theaters, I skipped it because Ep 1 is the only 1 I genuinely hated. But I never saw a home release of it, and I reckon they cancelled the rest?
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Number83 said:
They released Phantom Menace, but the 3D remaster was terrible, causing a delay on Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith. This was about the same time that Lucas had sold the Franchise to Disney, and they just decided to shelve the rework for 2 and 3.
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rcerboss said:
This I did not know.

What about the Clone Wars TV series (both of them)?



So they fucked up the 3D conversion then? That makes sense.
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Actually, they did finish the 3D conversions for both Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith. Clones 3D was shown at Star Wars Celebration Europe in 2013 and a few other random places, while Sith 3D premiered at Star Wars Celebration earlier this year in Anaheim. I don't think they're planning on releasing them nationwide in theaters, though, especially now with all the Disney Star Wars stuff happening.

 
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rcerboss said:
I don't pay much attention to Disney outside of Marvel/Pixar, but that certainly isn't accurate on the Marvel side. They have gotten better this past year, but before that it wasn't hard to find some of their 3D Blu Rays for $50 or more.
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But, remember, rcerboss, we've been over this- while you COULD buy Marvel 3D Blu's for over $50, there was NO REASON to, as they could easily be found for $30 or less at major retailers.

 
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cbulas1 said:
But, remember, rcerboss, we've been over this- while you COULD buy Marvel 3D Blu's for over $50, there was NO REASON to, as they could easily be found for $30 or less at major retailers.
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Not really, not when I started collecting last year. It was a pain in the ass to say the least. I ended up resorting to ebay for both Thors, Avengers, and IM3. Even then, IM3 was still over $30. It's probably the most I've ever spent on a single movie but it was the best deal I could find without just buying a standalone disc.

Honestly, I probably would've had to use ebay for Captain America 1 too if I hadn't caught an Amazon screw-up that lasted maybe a day and gotten Best Buy to PM it for me.

 
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DNukem170 said:
Disney owns the Lost Missions season, but the original microseries and the first 5 seasons are owned by Fox.
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Wow, what a clusterfuck that is.

Season 6 wasn't a big loss anyways.

While the first arc with Order 66 nearly being discovered by 5's was fairly well done, it makes absolutely no fucking sense for the Jedi to discover Dooku ordered the creation of the clone army AND had chips implanted in their brains, yet still use the clones without any further investigation. How fucking stupid can you be? Yoda training for force ghost immortality was largely just a shitty arc IMO

The Darth Maul Son of Dathomir comic book did prove that the show had potential left though. Here's hoping somebody touches on that at some point.

 
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How the Hell was my Question dumb wasn't the prices on them 24.99 and now they dropped down to 16.99

 
starmask2k3 said:
How the Hell was my Question dumb wasn't the prices on them 24.99 and now they dropped down to 16.99
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You asked if it was a bad sign that the price went down because digital copies aren't included. I don't know about you, but I'm actually happy when the prices get reduced on things that I'm buying because they offer less value. Your question doesn't even really make any sense.

It'd be like asking if it's a bad sign that a certain make of car costs less because it doesn't have air conditioning. Uh, no, that's a good sign. It's always better when companies price their products appropriately for what they are offering you.

 
They're currently unavailable for order on Amazon. My pre-order seems unaffected, though. Not sure what this means, but in any case, it looks like you can still order them at Best Buy.

 
Blaster man said:
Well you were wrong. They're 14.99 now.
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Wrong twice, actually. These aren't "a Disney product." Still 20th Century Fox putting these out.

FTR: Fox owns A New Hope straight out. The other five films are Lucasfilm's, but they're under a long standing licensing agreement to Fox. This could change in the future, but I don't think the exact details of the deal between Lucasfilm and Fox has ever been publicly revealed.
 
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Captain Wrong said:
Wrong twice, actually. These aren't "a Disney product." Still 20th Century Fox putting these out.

FTR: Fox owns A New Hope straight out. The other five films are Lucasfilm's, but they're under a long standing licensing agreement to Fox. This could change in the future, but I don't think the exact details of the deal between Lucasfilm and Fox has ever been publicly revealed.
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Yeah I ended up buying them and actually got these in the mail on Tuesday. I noticed they showed Fox. I hope that Disney puts out steelbooks for 7,8, and 9 so my set looks nice. i don't think Best Buy used to do this but now they lower pre-order prices like Amazon does so I got the 14.99 price without calling customer service or doing a return re-buy which was nice.

 
Blaster man said:
Well you were wrong. They're 14.99 now.
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I still think they are milking fans since $14.99 each for movies just about everyone already owns is hardly $5 or even $10 each.

Also, wasn't aware that FOX still owns the rights for now. Guess they would probably be $20 each if Disney had the rights.

 
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