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It is truly awesome to see The Crew as a Uplay freebie. I was expecting something like Beyond Good and Evil or the original Far Cry, but I could see those being given away in a future month.

 
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DickBurden said:
The first 30 minutes or so of The Crew are really annoying, but don't give up! Once people stop talking and you're able to just explore the open world without interruption, it's a lot more fun. Of course if you've ever played an Ubisoft game, you already knew that.
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Having just played the first 30 minutes of The Crew today, I can verify that it's really annoying.

 
HBX said:
It is truly awesome to see The Crew as a Uplay freebie. I was expecting something like Beyond Good and Evil or the original Far Cry, but I could see those being given away in a future month.
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It's because of DLC $$$, while they still can get it.

 
The Crew for free?  Glad to see something good and current free from Uplay.  Really fun game.  I have not tried the MP elements though.  I mean, yes they are forced upon you when playing but I've spent most of my time just driving.  The start is annoying as others have said, but once you get past, you're free rolling.  

I paid $15 for the complete with SP and WIld Run expansion so it's probably the same or better deal than getting it free and then having to pay for those things separately. 

 
A new expansion for The Crew is coming out in November called "Calling All Units", along with the "Ultimate Edition" which includes all DLC. I'll probably end up buying the ultimate edition on steam eventually, but the base game being free on Uplay is nice, it'll let me try out the game first to see if I like it.

 
It looks like it will include the Wild Run, as the video states all past content will be included, but not the new upcoming expansion. Still an excellent deal though. 

 
HBX said:
It looks like it will include the Wild Run, as the video states all past content will be included, but not the new upcoming expansion. Still an excellent deal though.
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What do you mean? If you're talking about the Ultimate Edition, it includes all DLC including the new expansion.

 
spoderman said:
What do you mean? If you're talking about the Ultimate Edition, it includes all DLC including the new expansion.
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I was talking about the upcoming free promo. I meant that they said that the promo will include past DLC, but that obviously doesn't include the new expansion, which will be included in the Ultimate Edition.

 
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I was talking about the upcoming free promo. I meant that they said that the promo will include past DLC, but that obviously doesn't include the new expansion, which will be included in the Ultimate Edition.
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Well, in that case I will cry in shame, though the video doesn't say DLC, just says content, which not sure if they mean DLC or just stuff they've added to the game like cars and community challenges and stuff that isn't DLC. It honestly wouldn't make sense for them to give you the DLC and then advertise an Ultimate Edition.

 
IAmTheCheapestFox said:
Well, in that case I will cry in shame, though the video doesn't say DLC, just says content, which not sure if they mean DLC or just stuff they've added to the game like cars and community challenges and stuff that isn't DLC. It honestly wouldn't make sense for them to give you the DLC and then advertise an Ultimate Edition.
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Yeah I doubt the guy in the video meant the DLC will be free.. otherwise it doesn't make much sense for them to give away the game. Makes more sense to me to give away the base game to encourage you to buy the DLC.

 
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Likely timed exclusivity. It'll hit PC at some point almost assuredly now. Same with XB1.
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zenii said:
So I guess ARK is still dealing with the whole "releasing paid DLC while still in EA" fiasco.

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God, people need to get off their fucking high horse and use some context for once. ARK being in Early Access doesn't mean that all content will be free forever until it is released. It doesn't prevent it from releasing DLC. Yes, I get the reasonable argument against it, if the game isn't fully released yet why are you putting resources into DLC, but in this case you have a game that is and has been in almost full working order for over a year so the game has never suffered because of it. God forbid the success of the game has made it so that the devs can keep working on the game and also release new DLC to keep it interesting at the same time

 
I feel like who is right/wrong doesn't really matter, it's the way you make people feel. Regardless of whether they could or should release paid DLC, it still rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, and at the end of the day that's what people will remember, no matter how good your game is. 

It's pretty much like dealing with an angry gf/wife/whatever. It doesn't matter who is right or wrong, or even whose fault it is, if you don't apologize to her, your life is going to be a living hell until you do.

 
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God, people need to get off their fucking high horse and use some context for once. ARK being in Early Access doesn't mean that all content will be free forever until it is released. It doesn't prevent it from releasing DLC. Yes, I get the reasonable argument against it, if the game isn't fully released yet why are you putting resources into DLC, but in this case you have a game that is and has been in almost full working order for over a year so the game has never suffered because of it. God forbid the success of the game has made it so that the devs can keep working on the game and also release new DLC to keep it interesting at the same time
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Is there somewhere that I can negatively review your comment to express my outrage?

Unrelated, the second 30 minutes of The Crew is really fun. Although i've been playing it as an open world collect-a-thon, but i'm the idiot who actually enjoys that crap which gets shoehorned into ubigames. All the dilapidated vistas of Detroit shall be mine!

 
IAmTheCheapestFox said:
white knighting out the ass
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Had they simply removed ARK from ea the day before DLC release, the backlash would've been halved, if not avoided near entirely.

As it stands, they've released DLC for an unfinished game. It's basically what every other big dev does by stripping content for their season passes, but ARK devs were more blatant about it and people are understandably peeved.

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being in Early Access doesn't mean that all content will be free forever until it is released.
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For the record, that's exactly what it's supposed to mean.

 
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Reminds me of all the people downvoting Warhammer Total War because they are unhappy about the way they're doing dlc. Annoying that a good dlc can have negative reviews because it costs $2 more than people were expecting.
 
indef said:
Is there somewhere that I can negatively review your comment to express my outrage?

Unrelated, the second 30 minutes of The Crew is really fun. Although i've been playing it as an open world collect-a-thon, but i'm the idiot who actually enjoys that crap which gets shoehorned into ubigames. All the dilapidated vistas of Detroit shall be mine!
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Right after I finished it I fooled around Detroit a bit and then spent like 15-30 minutes driving to Seattle to see how true to life it was. I think I'm still in Seattle at the moment.

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Had they simply removed ARK from ea the day before DLC release, the backlash would've been halved, if not avoided near entirely.

As it stands, they've released DLC for an unfinished game. It's basically what every other big dev does by stripping content for their season passes, but ARK devs were more blatant about it and people are understandably peeved.

For the record, that's exactly what it's supposed to mean.
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Actually, no, that's not what it means at all. ARK is ARK. This ARK expansion is it's own separate thing. As long as the ARK expansion which they are selling by itself is not something they promised would be in ARK when ARK was put into EA, then there's not reasonable expectation that they include in ARK or not release it on it's own as paid DLC. ARK, what was promised in EA, is nearly finished and available to anyone who buys the game. So what if they still have some tweaking to do and minor things to add? People have been playing this "incomplete" game for a very long time. It's all about context and people seem to conveniently ignore it when they want to get outraged for no reason. I mean the idea that they hold on to something and not release it until another date and all of a sudden that makes it completely different is pretty foolish.

I mean, seriously, read what you wrote. Just call ARK finished in it's current state and people would be less mad. Makes a lot of sense. It's not whiteknighting. I can understand situations similar to this where people would be rightly outraged, this just isn't one of them.

 
Different types of people get different kinds of angry over DLC.  I try not to blame them.  It's a pretty common reaction when people realize they have to spend 50-100% more money than they initially thought, after they were already invested in a complete game.  But for some reason we all like to tell people what DLC they should or shouldn't get angry about. 

 
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It rubbed me the wrong way, but not so much the fact that they were selling DLC, but that they were selling DLC when the base game is in such a horribly optimized state. Of course people can say 'oh the same developers would definitely not be working on the DLC as the base game' but wildcard has around 30devs, 20 of which are designers/artist types and only 4 listed as 'engine'. So if you now start requiring all these new elements from your DLC to be supported in the game engine that takes away those core devs time from actually fixing bugs and optimizing the game and making it playable instead of 30-40fps on gtx1080

Hard to get excited about DLC when the majority of the player base has to look at a pixelated mess to play the game. I really wouldnt have an issue with DLC if the game ran the way it should at this point especially when they initially planned on releasing this summer and the game runs in no way close to a game that should be released soon should. If it did run well and your close to release, then sure add in content and sell all the dlc you want.

I suppose that has always slightly pissed me off about ark though, once I got the 100th daily update of adding such and such plant, or such and such mouse to the game instead of fixing real base issues I uninstalled. They have had various 'optimization' items listed in their 'coming soon' list for a year, an entire year

 
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Nothing371 said:
Different types of people get different kinds of angry over DLC. I try not to blame them. It's a pretty common reaction when people realize they have to spend 50-100% more money than they initially thought, after they were already invested in a complete game. But for some reason we all like to tell people what DLC they should or shouldn't get angry about.
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I hate DLC more than most and I'm a tin-foil hatter who believes devs take away content from games to release it as DLC. I abhor the new MSRP of AAA games which is essentially $100 to get the full game. That said, I'm not telling people what to get mad about, I'm mainly calling people out on their dumbass logic. You literally have people with 100s of hours in this game, some even over 1000, who are posting negative reviews. People who the day before the DLC was released LOVED the game and were enjoying it enough to put all that time in it, and then some expansion is released and all of a sudden it's a negative review and they hate it just based on principle. It's just fucking stupid.

Anyway, someone said that you can buy the DLC, tame a dragon, and then bring it into an existing ARK and basically reign supreme. If that's the case, while a fair gripe about the expansion, I might just buy the expansion, tame a dragon, and go troll some of these people instead of just ranting online.

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It rubbed me the wrong way, but not so much the fact that they were selling DLC, but that they were selling DLC when the base game is in such a horribly optimized state. Of course people can say 'oh the same developers would definitely not be working on the DLC as the base game' but wildcard has around 30devs, 20 of which are designers/artist types and only 4 listed as 'engine'. So if you now start requiring all these new elements from your DLC to be supported in the game engine that takes away those core devs time from actually fixing bugs and optimizing the game and making it playable instead of 30-40fps on gtx1080

Hard to get excited about DLC when the majority of the player base has to look at a pixelated mess to play the game. I really wouldnt have an issue with DLC if the game ran the way it should at this point especially when they initially planned on releasing this summer and the game runs in no way close to a game that should be released soon should. If it did run well and your close to release, then sure add in content and sell all the dlc you want.

I suppose that has always slightly pissed me off about ark though, once I got the 100th daily update of adding such and such plant, or such and such mouse to the game instead of fixing real base issues I uninstalled. They have had various 'optimization' items listed in their 'coming soon' list for a year, an entire year
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The optimization and engine gripe is a fair one. They really haven't done much to fix that and like most open world EA games, it runs like shit. They need more engineers working on it, but the expansion is mostly a cosmetic reskin of the current game, so I really doubt significant resources were taken from optimization for this.

 
IAmTheCheapestFox said:
God forbid the success of the game has made it so that the devs can keep working on the game and also release new DLC to keep it interesting at the same time
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I don't agree with nuking the game's ratings but there's absolutely nothing stopping the devs taking the game out of Early Access and yet still patching, adding content and generally working on it. All Early Access does is give the devs an excuse to hide behind when stuff doesn't work and say "Oh well, early access. Sucks to be you". At some point they should take responsibility for their game and the point when they're releasing $20 expansions sounds like a great time to put on the big boy pants.

 
IAmTheCheapestFox said:
The optimization and engine gripe is a fair one. They really haven't done much to fix that and like most open world EA games, it runs like shit. They need more engineers working on it, but the expansion is mostly a cosmetic reskin of the current game, so I really doubt significant resources were taken from optimization for this.
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Normally I would agree with all points, that the engineers who would have been optimizing wouldnt have been working on models/skins/extra stuff. The only thing that makes me doubt that though is the timeline. There hasnt been any improvement to how the game runs in ~8months I think (I sort of remember the game getting fairly playable around that point, vs on release when it was almost unplayable at any setting). If there really are separate developers to work on that stuff then what the hell have they been doing. Either an entire engine re-write, or they really are not separate teams

 
zenii said:
It's pretty much like dealing with an angry gf/wife/whatever. It doesn't matter who is right or wrong, or even whose fault it is, if you don't apologize to her, your life is going to be a living hell until you do.
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I feel you. Spoken like a truly married, broken man. It doesn't matter if you're right or wrong; you're always wrong, and how could you ever think otherwise.

 
ezelkow1 said:
Normally I would agree with all points, that the engineers who would have been optimizing wouldnt have been working on models/skins/extra stuff. The only thing that makes me doubt that though is the timeline. There hasnt been any improvement to how the game runs in ~8months I think (I sort of remember the game getting fairly playable around that point, vs on release when it was almost unplayable at any setting). If there really are separate developers to work on that stuff then what the hell have they been doing. Either an entire engine re-write, or they really are not separate teams
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I have no clue what happens on the backend with development, but I do know that with 7 Days to Die it takes forever for them to release anything optimization related and it still runs like shit. I don't know if indie devs (though the ARK guys are really not that indie anymore) just don't have the knowledge or budget for this sort of stuff or if the optimization stuff is really hard to do. 4 engineers doesn't seem like anywhere near enough. I imagine AAA games have way more and probably outsource most of the repetitive grunt work too.

 
Oh, and I'll say again that I think much of this is a Valve issue.  Valve shouldn't be allowing these devs to double dip with paid expansions, loot crate drops, item stores, etc until their core game is out of Early Access.  If your core game isn't done yet, the onus should be to finish that up before finding new ways to wring money out of your player base.

But, of course, Valve doesn't give a shit because a $20 dragon DLC gives Gabe $6 each time it's sold whether the core game is done or not.

 
warreni said:
Ack! I just realized that I don't have the TQ Anniversary Edition because I actually played TQ and Immortal Throne on CD-ROMs or some such thing. And then I sold the copy I got from the THQ Humble. Oh, well, I guess I won't be backlogging that one after all.
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DVD actually.

I have both TQ + IT from retail on DVD's each.

Also, I re-bought TQ: Gold Steam-key last year (July 25th, 2015) from GamesPlanet for around $2.25 USD or so.

Y U no re-buy TQ Gold for Steam-key back then?

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Actually, looks like TQ + IT were sold at retail like how NWN2 was sold at retail - you could buy it either for CD or DVD way, depending on what version(s) the retailer had. Interesting.

 
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All Early Access does is give the devs an excuse to hide behind when stuff doesn't work and say "Oh well, early access. Sucks to be you". At some point they should take responsibility for their game and the point when they're releasing $20 expansions sounds like a great time to put on the big boy pants.
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This sums up what I think of a lot of games that are still in Early Access. The developers are done with the game and want to shield it from any negative reviews or criticism so they just leave it in EA status forever so no matter what anyone says they can pretend that its not a legit criticism because it'll get fixed eventually. Some of the games are pretty decent as is, even the best games on everyone personal list have had some things they could nitpick on long after they were finished and the devs moved on to other things.

 
Yeah, Valve's not doing anything about Early Access and DLC/RNG. They are almost completely hands-off and that's a real slippery slope if you're going to try and enforce it.

But really... what difference does it make if the game is in Early Access? My opinion is that if the game is what I reasonably expected it to be and is in a playable state for most people... they can add whatever the hell they want.

People forget that games used to get released early all the time. It's just that no one ever bothered slapping a blue EA banner on it. You got the game as-is and you waited for patches. And while freebies for PC games were the popular thing for a while, expansions and quick sequels have long been "a thing"

Moral is: don't get hung up on labels when gauging your outrage. Play the game and have fun, or wait until it is finished. If all else fails... use your refund button. That's what Valve wants you to do.

 
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