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Just wondering...they're still closing the PSP store but I can (or at least I could) buy PSP games through the Vita store.

Does this mean that I can't buy PSP games through the Vita store once the PSP store is closed.

I don't actually see myself buying any PSP or Vita or PS3 games at this time or really in the future if I haven't already.

I just wonder what the actual logistics will be?

 
When Sony announced the closure of PS3 and PS Vita stores, I made a list of the games and DLC I wanted to buy across the 5 consoles, finalized it, and then started purchasing them, all at full price. Took me about a week but I just wanted to get it over with and get ahead of any possible unexpected hiccups and delistings should they occur. So I didn't actually panic buy, but I was still under a false impression that an impending shutdown was near. I think I spent about $735 in total for all of them.

Now I'm just shocked and dismayed when I heard the news today. The money I spent is not lifechanging, but it could go a long way towards not having to worry about expenses for awhile. I didn't expect a corporation to actually reverse course on this. I thought this was more akin to Nintendo's virtual console situation than Microsoft.

Is there any recourse that I am able to pursue over this? :cry:
Literally lol’d when I read this
 
When Sony announced the closure of PS3 and PS Vita stores, I made a list of the games and DLC I wanted to buy across the 5 consoles, finalized it, and then started purchasing them, all at full price. Took me about a week but I just wanted to get it over with and get ahead of any possible unexpected hiccups and delistings should they occur. So I didn't actually panic buy, but I was still under a false impression that an impending shutdown was near. I think I spent about $735 in total for all of them.

Now I'm just shocked and dismayed when I heard the news today. The money I spent is not lifechanging, but it could go a long way towards not having to worry about expenses for awhile. I didn't expect a corporation to actually reverse course on this. I thought this was more akin to Nintendo's virtual console situation than Microsoft.

Is there any recourse that I am able to pursue over this? :cry:
I’m legit curious, what all did you end up getting that totaled $735?

 
I’m legit curious, what all did you end up getting that totaled $735?
I was going to make a quip about how maybe the guy just really loves the Sims 4 and bought all the DLC, but then I actually got curious and looked it up and fun fact, that is basically the exact amount you would pay to buy every single piece of Sims 4 DLC at full price without bundling.

 
I feel like it is the game that make the brand not the head of the studio.

Gotta disagree with this. Anyone who thinks Don Mattrick and crew didn't doom the XBox One to getting trounced in sales by the PS4 wasn't paying attention. The competition was over months before it started and it wasn't because of Knack or Drive Club.
I think you forgot that Don Mattrick left for Zynga a few months after when the Xbox One was revealed and he was never the head of Xbox during anytime when the Xbox One came out. So the failure is actually on the Xbox teams who have years to develop new IP or strengthen their existing franchise but failed to do so. I'm pretty sure the sale number were very close the first year but slowly widen because of the games that eventually came out and separate them from each other.

 
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I think you forgot that Don Mattrick left for Zynga a few months after when the Xbox One was revealed and he was never the head of Xbox during anytime when the Xbox One came out. So the failure is actually on the Xbox teams who have years to develop new IP or strengthen their existing franchise but failed to do so. I'm pretty sure the sale number were very close the first year but slowly widen because of the games that eventually came out and separate them from each other.
Wrong. His influence loomed large well after he left. There was no changing what the xbox one was before launch once it had been shown. His price announcements and drm bs were incredibly hurtful to the xb1's sales. The damage had been done. Clearly you can believe what you want. You'll just be in the tiny minority is all.

PS4 sales double that of XBox One in first year. Not very close.

 
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The competition was over months before it started and it wasn't because of Knack or Drive Club.
I remember when PS4 came out and Knack was being hyped as the next big thing on national news and late night talk shows.

I was like - Knack, really, my god.

When the general public thinks of videogames, they still think of kid-friendly Super Mario clones. :shock:

 
I think you forgot that Don Mattrick left for Zynga a few months after when the Xbox One was revealed and he was never the head of Xbox during anytime when the Xbox One came out. So the failure is actually on the Xbox teams who have years to develop new IP or strengthen their existing franchise but failed to do so. I'm pretty sure the sale number were very close the first year but slowly widen because of the games that eventually came out and separate them from each other.
It was quite clear at the time that Mattrick was the face and leadership of the brand for launch. It was also contextually clear that his leaving for Zynga was the usual corporate forceout after the dual disasters that were the "TV TV TV" hype presentation and subsequent launch underperformance vs. PS4.

 


I was going to make a quip about how maybe the guy just really loves the Sims 4 and bought all the DLC, but then I actually got curious and looked it up and fun fact, that is basically the exact amount you would pay to buy every single piece of Sims 4 DLC at full price without bundling.
On the Xbox side, I've bought my wife almost all of the available Sims 4 content only using Microsoft Credit redeemed from Microsoft Rewards. Only actually money I've spent was tax on some of the purchases if it brought the total slightly above the amount of credit. Also waited for sales and bought bundles.

So dang, that's almost $800 in Sims junk for "free?"
 
Wrong. His influence loomed large well after he left. There was no changing what the xbox one was before launch once it had been shown. His price announcements and drm bs were incredibly hurtful to the xb1's sales. The damage had been done. Clearly you can believe what you want. You'll just be in the tiny minority is all.

PS4 sales double that of XBox One in first year. Not very close.
What I am trying to say is that it could have been turned around if they would have focused on developing new IP because it is the game that matters. The PS3 was in the same similar situation and the price difference was more dramatic, $600 vs $400 and $300. The PS3 was also released a full year later than the 360 and came with many issues. I am pretty sure the sales number gap was much wider back then than it was for the PS4 and Xbox One when the PS3 finally came out.

It is odd to think that Mattrick has prevented the current Xbox team to develop or change path years later when he has not been with the company for years. But yeah you are also entitled to believe whatever you want.

 
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It was quite clear at the time that Mattrick was the face and leadership of the brand for launch. It was also contextually clear that his leaving for Zynga was the usual corporate forceout after the dual disasters that were the "TV TV TV" hype presentation and subsequent launch underperformance vs. PS4.
Did people forgot how horrible the PS3 launch was and that the father of the Playstation was also forced out too?

 
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So you don't need to buy PS3 games?
Were there any great PS3 games that haven’t been ported ... I thought about it the other day and the only game I own but regret being unable to play is Tokyo Jungle. And again, mod your PS3 ... if you still own one and are worried about Sony closing the store at some point. Sony killed the Vita in 2015, with support fully dropped in 2019. These are legacy consoles so I don’t see why someone wouldn’t mod their system. Especially the Vita, which opens up some amazing options to enhance the actual console experience.
 
I think you forgot that Don Mattrick left for Zynga a few months after when the Xbox One was revealed and he was never the head of Xbox during anytime when the Xbox One came out. So the failure is actually on the Xbox teams who have years to develop new IP or strengthen their existing franchise but failed to do so. I'm pretty sure the sale number were very close the first year but slowly widen because of the games that eventually came out and separate them from each other.
I'm sure Don Mattrick gets more hate than he probably should, but compare him and Phil Spencer. Phil Spencer is not in the trenches developing hardware and software. He steers the ship just like Don Mattrick steered the ship.

 
The legacy of Mattrick's bad decisions still haunts Xbox even today because it takes long time to turn around a ship headed in the wrong direction when you're dealing with products that have 3-5 year production cycles. Take PS3 for instance. They clearly realized somewhere in the development of PS3 that things weren't going well, but it still took them from 2006 when it released until 2008 for them to put in a feature as basic as trophies. The generation ended with a big headwind for Sony when their investments in high quality studios like Naughty Dog started to pay massive dividends. The Last of Us was a huge win and the pathway to its development arguably began with Uncharted 1 in 2007.

By comparison, Xbox One's problem wasn't its TV-TV-TV E3 intro, it was the fact that they had no where to pivot off of that when it became clear it wasn't working. They didn't have a diamond in the rough to put out early in the generation that would eventually become a blockbuster franchise for them. When they flopped at launch, they had nothing they could do but eat crow.

Sure, the past few years have seen them dumping a lot of money into acquiring new users for their ecosystem by buying developers to produce exclusives and giving out a very generous offer in gamepass, but it's going to take time for them to leverage that too. In 3 years we're going to see Microsoft firing on all cylinders and it's going to be impressive. Right now though, Microsoft's only compelling offer is value. Game pass is good entertainment for the money, but their exclusives still suck. When they have better products to offer, they will pull the rug out from under the value proposition and crank up the fees. Game pass being cheap now is just a user acquisition tool and later they will capitalize on those acquired users (which is what Sony is doing now).

This is how companies work. They give compelling offers to suck you in then they monetize you as hard as they can. You get tired of it, find a better offer, and the cycle plays out again.

 
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Were there any great PS3 games that haven’t been ported ... I thought about it the other day and the only game I own but regret being unable to play is Tokyo Jungle. And again, mod your PS3 ... if you still own one and are worried about Sony closing the store at some point. Sony killed the Vita in 2015, with support fully dropped in 2019. These are legacy consoles so I don’t see why someone wouldn’t mod their system. Especially the Vita, which opens up some amazing options to enhance the actual console experience.
Tokyo Jungle had a physical release on PS3 in the "Best of PlayStation Network Vol. 1".

 
Tokyo Jungle had a physical release on PS3 in the "Best of PlayStation Network Vol. 1".
True, but I would need to have a PS3 and I sold mine long ago because 90% of the console’s major games are available on other platforms. Plus that physical release is now insanely expensive. It’s never been ported to another system though ... would have been nice if Sony was as supportive of backwards compatibility as MS has been, but clearly that’s not the case. Either way, if I really wanted to play it, I’d pick up a PS3 to mod or emulate it on my pc. If companies don’t provide options to play their old games, we make our own options.
 
I think it still too early to tell about Jim Ryan.
Look around the various gaming forums, as well as Twitter and Reddit. There is very little positive mind share around the brand right now. Jim Ryan was a blundering idiot sparking negative controversy back when he was over Europe. I just can't understand how he was promoted to head the whole division. Other than PlayStation Plus improving in value and the Play at Home initiative, is there a positive move that has been made in the past 2 years? Every announcement seems more anti consumer (censorship, no network cross platform play, closing legacy stores, $70 games, no upgrades to PS4 versions of games you own), disappointing (Days Gone sequel nixed, no plans for a Game Pass service), unwanted (Last of Us Remake) or a backtrack on a previous terrible position.

Sure, the past few years have seen them dumping a lot of money into acquiring new users for their ecosystem by buying developers to produce exclusives and giving out a very generous offer in gamepass, but it's going to take time for them to leverage that too. In 3 years we're going to see Microsoft firing on all cylinders and it's going to be impressive. Right now though, Microsoft's only compelling offer is value. Game pass is good entertainment for the money, but their exclusives still suck. When they have better products to offer, they will pull the rug out from under the value proposition and crank up the fees. Game pass being cheap now is just a user acquisition tool and later they will capitalize on those acquired users (which is what Sony is doing now).
The problem with Game Pass is you don't own any of the content. If Microsoft does as you say and jacks the price up and starts to move in a negative direction, there isn't much that locks the users into their ecosystem assuming they didn't buy into other software and media while using Game Pass. For instance, I moved to Xbox thanks to not liking Sony's direction and loving the value of Game Pass even though I have several thousands invested in the PlayStation ecosystem. If Microsoft starts removing their value I'll jump again. Corporations have no loyalty to their consumers and consumers should treat corporations the same way.

 
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Were there any great PS3 games that haven’t been ported ... I thought about it the other day and the only game I own but regret being unable to play is Tokyo Jungle. And again, mod your PS3 ... if you still own one and are worried about Sony closing the store at some point. Sony killed the Vita in 2015, with support fully dropped in 2019. These are legacy consoles so I don’t see why someone wouldn’t mod their system. Especially the Vita, which opens up some amazing options to enhance the actual console experience.
At this point, there's no reason to own a vita and not mod it. That doesn't necessarily mean pirating every damn thing. Just being able to put a SD card in the system without spending hundreds of dollars on proprietary junk SD cards is worth it all in itself. The mod scene is really crazy with the apps and tools that unlock it to it's full potential with changing clock speeds, allowing use of dualshock controllers, using launcher programs that change the whole UI, and retroarch.
 
At this point, there's no reason to own a vita and not mod it. That doesn't necessarily mean pirating every damn thing. Just being able to put a SD card in the system without spending hundreds of dollars on proprietary junk SD cards is worth it all in itself. The mod scene is really crazy with the apps and tools that unlock it to it's full potential with changing clock speeds, allowing use of dualshock controllers, using launcher programs that change the whole UI, and retroarch.
Not to mention the SD cards are more reliable (and obtainable) than the vita memory card.
Yea, hacked my vita tv and downloaded all my owned PS1, PSP, and VIta games to it... fully playable.

 
Shh ... one cannot speak of this obvious thing or some questionable CAGs will summon the mods and vanish the truths of which you speak ...
 
is there a positive move that has been made in the past 2 years?
You have plenty of good reasons to dislike what Sony has been doing lately, but I think you could benefit from a little bit of perspective as well.

Yes, there have been positive moves made in the past 2 years. A lot of them. Full PS4 backwards compatibility on PS5. Astro's Playroom was free. The Dualsense turned out pretty awesome. A lot of free PS4 > PS5 upgrade paths and/or patches have been released. The consoles were cheaper than many expected, especially the digital one which tons of people thought would only be 30-50 dollars cheaper than physical and the physical availability wasn't limited in a scummy fashion. Playstation Plus Collection, PS+ regularly getting 3 titles instead of 2. Free PSVR compatibility adapter. Tons of free play at home games. The PS5 is as quiet and cooled as they promised, loads things just as fast, and seemingly as powerful as I'd hoped.

That isn't to say they haven't screwed up. I am worried about the direction they're going in at times, same as everyone else. But I guess the good outweighs the bad for me? Currently playing RE7, free, thanks to the collection. Having a great time.

I agree with not having loyalty towards corporations, but I also think it's important to try and find things to be grateful for and enjoy what you've got.

I love my PS5. And I can't wait for Returnal. Astro's was great, Demon's Souls was lovely. I'm really happy.

 
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Man, TV-TV-TV was the least of their PR issues. "Xbox One requires always-on internet" and "developers can disable used game playback," anyone?
Yuuuup. And everyone likes to play what if about family sharing and digital trade-in, but Mattrick and the PR were so half-assed and hamfisted that nobody really knew what was being offered. Which itself wouldn't have been quite so bad if Mattrick wasn't so completely smug about it.

He absolutely damaged the Xbox brand despite going to Zynga soon after; leaders build teams around their philosophy, and that dogma takes a while to diminish.
 
Playstation fanboys white knighting their perfect Sony waifu IN the Playstation thread? PREPOSTEROUS!

 
Playstation fanboys white knighting their perfect Sony waifu IN the Playstation thread? PREPOSTEROUS!
We’ve been complaining about Sony’s (and specifically Jim Ryan’s) poor decisions for pages. If you read more than just most recent few posts you’d have the context to know that people are comparing Jim Ryan’s recent bad decision making to what Don Mattrick did to the Xbox brand.

You’re not better than anyone here.
 
Playstation fanboys white knighting their perfect Sony waifu IN the Playstation thread? PREPOSTEROUS!
Xbox and 360 were my primary consoles in their respective generations. Xbox One *should* have been the logical progression for me, but I got a PS4 instead as my primary 7th gen, and only got an Xbox One for Rock Band 4 and, later, GamePass.

Had Xbox One been my primary, Series X would probably have been next.

Not saying I think you're lumping me in there, but I AM saying that my criticism of Microsoft with Xbox One is because I *should* have been their target audience for that console; instead, the sheer panoply of missteps they made leading up to its launch resulted in my switching ecosystems. It's a shame. The idea of Series X being compatible with the entire line of Xbox software is hugely appealing, in theory, but since I have next to no Xbox One software, it would be more novelty than anything else for me, even owning 200+ games between the first two Xbox gens combined.

 
LTT compares a bunch of cloud based gaming services and rightfully shits all over PSNow.

https://youtu.be/J1z4XqEkSEU
I was going to make some joke about there being a good alternative to all those cloud gaming services, and then include some graphic and gratuitous description of self-injury, but I think that kind of thing is frowned on the internet these days, so I'll just let Weird Al take it away:

https://youtu.be/yWhpk-8QLFQ?t=153

 
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How are MLB the show fans and die hards stomaching the full price of the game vs. game pass getting it on release? I’m having cheap ass issues from purchasing it.
Personally while the Gamepass system is nice, and a good price, they can pull that game at any time they choose. Least if you buy it digitally or physically, it is yours. Think of it as an investment lol

 
Personally while the Gamepass system is nice, and a good price, they can pull that game at any time they choose. Least if you buy it digitally or physically, it is yours. Think of it as an investment lol
I mean, buying yearly sports titles is a terrible investment though. If it's available to you at no extra cost for the bulk of the time it's most expensive seems like the no-brainer choice.

If you already have Game Pass and avoid paying full price, by the time it's pulled from the service (hypothetically) three months down the line, the game has already dropped like a rock in price like any other sports title. If you want to play it beyond then, you can buy it at a hefty discount.

 
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Kind of random PlayStation question but has anyone heard about Katana Zero coming to PlayStation? I saw it on sale for the switch so I’m tempted but I’d prefer to get it on my ps5 and the only positive article I found was an esrb rating for it back in March.
 
Oh good. Another video subscription service. Sure, it may be "free" with Plus, but i've got a dozen other streaming services that probably have these same movies already.
Yeah especially with the announcement of Sony movies going to netflix it will be a little redundant. Maybe they will include crunchyroll content with it.
 
Kind of random PlayStation question but has anyone heard about Katana Zero coming to PlayStation? I saw it on sale for the switch so I’m tempted but I’d prefer to get it on my ps5 and the only positive article I found was an esrb rating for it back in March.
I would just get it on switch, that’s where I played it and it runs fine with no lag. It’s pixel graphics so I can’t image it would look better on the PS5. I’m sure it would load faster on the PS5, but I never really noticed long loading times on the switch.
 
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