Target Clearance Thread XXIV

deadtrees said:
:ps4: Ghost of Tsushima Director's Cut 207-34-0612 $59.99 -> $17.99 (upgrading this to the PS5 version costs $10 because of...reasons)
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Thanks for the heads up on this! Chanced a trip to the local store this morning, and sure enough it was stealth clearanced. No tags highlighting the price. Just sitting there in the plastic cages in the PS games aisle. Paired it with price matches on vanilla AC Valhalla ($14.99) and Far Cry 6 ($24.99) to push the total over $50, as I had a coupon that was set to expire today ($10 off a purchase of $50). Paid with the RedCard and was out the door for $48.xx. I know Far Cry 6 will go lower (probably sooner than later) but all things considered, I’m okay with paying $16 per game. Will definitely upgrade the GoT to the PS5 version.

Now for the funny thing. CAGs know all about gaming backlogs, and I had a vanilla copy of Tsushima still in the plastic sitting on the shelf from last year. Checked locally to see who was selling it for what price, and did a receiptless return at Walmart. How much did I get back? Yep, $39.88.

So basically I’ll have made $10 and upgraded to the PS5 version (with the DLC to boot) for letting it sit there all year.
 
flooderdooden said:
Thanks for the heads up on this! Chanced a trip to the local store this morning, and sure enough it was stealth clearanced. No tags highlighting the price. Just sitting there in the plastic cages in the PS games aisle. Paired it with price matches on vanilla AC Valhalla ($14.99) and Far Cry 6 ($24.99) to push the total over $50, as I had a coupon that was set to expire today ($10 off a purchase of $50). Paid with the RedCard and was out the door for $48.xx. I know Far Cry 6 will go lower (probably sooner than later) but all things considered, I’m okay with paying $16 per game. Will definitely upgrade the GoT to the PS5 version.


So basically I’ll have made $10 and upgraded to the PS5 version (with the DLC to boot) for letting it sit there all year.
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you should probably delete the part about the return

 
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KrayzieKMF said:
you should probably delete the part about the return
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Any particular reason why? I ask because this time of year is common for returns, and the game was still sealed and completely sellable. I can understand the concern if it were a case of buying a game on sale at one place to immediately return for a profit at another store (i.e. return fraud). But this was not the case. I just found it humorous (and a rare instance) where an older, vanilla version of a game ended up being valued more than a GOTY/Director’s Cut a year later. Meanwhile, backlog’s gonna backlog, as is the way of CAG.
 
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johnnymavrik said:
Because returning items to stores they weren't bought from is considered return fraud. And generally that type of activity is frowned upon here.
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I’m open to the fact that not everyone would consider doing that. But the retailer in this case isn’t defrauded. It’s not as if they received a product that they couldn’t sell or had been altered in some way (like what was mentioned in another thread when somebody suggested replacing a broken controller by buying a new one and replacing/returning the broken one). And this time of year, how many returns occur that fall along those exact same boundaries? If someone doesn’t include a gift receipt, what’s the likelihood that people will tend to return the item to the most convenient big box retailer that sells that product? Realistically speaking, I can’t recall where I purchased the vanilla GoT last year. However, if it was at Walmart, is it any less of an issue then? It’s a gray area for sure, and not everyone would capitalize on that opportunity. I can respect people coming to a different conclusion. Again, just found it humorous that the vanilla game could be valued more than a later, more complete edition.
 
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Its amazing how far people will go to try and justify return fraud... if you bought it from store A but return it to Store B that is return fraud...  you are just further exploiting whatever non receipt return policy they have which will eventually ruin it for everyone else trying to justly return a product bought there that the legit lost the receipt for. I know you have to spin it to sleep better at night but a duck that quacks is a duck no matter what color or what shape.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year

 
So if I have the Ghosts Launch edition barely played, the Directors cut version is a better option? I see that I can get $10+ tic at Gamestop foe the Launch version so upgrading to the DC would only be a few bucks. That makes sense to do right?

Or does upgrading the Launch edition to the PS5 version get you the same stuff?
 
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johnnymavrik said:
So if I have the Ghosts Launch edition barely played, the Directors cut version is a better option? I see that I can get $10+ tic at Gamestop foe the Launch version so upgrading to the DC would only be a few bucks. That makes sense to do right?
Or does upgrading the Launch edition to the PS5 version get you the same stuff?
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If you have the launch edition, to move to the PS5 version of the Director’s Cut, you’d be looking at $30 for the full upgrade ($20 for the Director’s Cut/DLC island and content and $10 for the upgrade to the PS5 version).
 
deadtrees said:
:ps4: Ghost of Tsushima Director's Cut 207-34-0612 $59.99 -> $17.99 (upgrading this to the PS5 version costs $10 because of...reasons)

Some other bargain bin 70% drops:

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Assassin's Creed III $11.99
Hitman (Definitive Edition) $8.99
Borderlands: The Handsome Collection $5.99
For Honor: Marching Fire $5.99
The Division $5.99

One store is already packing up the Christmas department, so good luck with clearance cherry-picking.
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Has anyone been able to replicate the $18 price for Ghost of Tsushima Director's Cut in southern Cali?

 
flooderdooden said:
If you have the launch edition, to move to the PS5 version of the Director’s Cut, you’d be looking at $30 for the full upgrade ($20 for the Director’s Cut/DLC island and content and $10 for the upgrade to the PS5 version).
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Thanks. Just got the Directors Cut for 17.99. Now I have to find out if I need to start over since I'll likely pay the $10 to upgrade this version (installed the Launch edition on my ps5 last month but didn't upgrade)..suspect I need to delete the first install?
 
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I completely missed out on the discounted Halloween candy this year. My local targets discounted 30 through 50% in a matter of days and then it was just all gone. It never got to 70% off. Will it be similar again for the after Christmas candy?
 
Derrick1979 said:
Its amazing how far people will go to try and justify return fraud... if you bought it from store A but return it to Store B that is return fraud... you are just further exploiting whatever non receipt return policy they have which will eventually ruin it for everyone else trying to justly return a product bought there that the legit lost the receipt for. I know you have to spin it to sleep better at night but a duck that quacks is a duck no matter what color or what shape.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
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I get the feeling you’re implying that I have committed return fraud. Keep in mind that I don’t disagree with your Store A/Store B example, since the premise there is the customer pressing for unfair enrichment. I also would add utilizing a store’s price match policy and later returning the same item without a receipt for full value would be a clear cut case of return fraud. Or the earlier example of returning an item in which the user replaced something functional with something defective. That’s a clear cut example as well. For clarity’s sake, I purchased the original copy of GoT last year around the holiday season. It might be interesting to go back and look at exactly how much GoT was selling for at that time, to see if perhaps I’ve unjustly enriched myself, as you seem to suggest. If you can find GoT for cheaper than $40, I’m open to the criticism. That said, I’d be curious as to what you think would be acceptable in the above situation? Should I have listed the vanilla version on eBay? Opened it and flipped it for a pittance to GameStop? Is it wrong that I sought to maximize its value at this point? Should I have inherently accepted less? Is Walmart defrauded if they value the game at a certain amount and can easily sell the game in its returned condition?

Whatever the result, I suspect that you see it a certain way, and that your mind’s made up on the matter. I welcome your point of view. And there will be people who agree with you, and I’m okay with that. People can disagree. Personally speaking, I tend to have more issues with el hoardos and those who buy up all the deals, only to flip said products to GameStop and the like. Long story short, everybody’s got their own calculus when it comes to ideas of ethics/ethical behavior. Honestly, I tend to stay in my own narrow lane, but I am a CAG through and through. I don’t buy multiple copies to flip or amortize through trades. If I see a deal or opportunity, I share it. I do aim to get the most for my money.

Anyway, if you feel better responding/chatting via DMs (to keep the thread from getting cluttered/sidetracked with this sort of discussion), that’s completely fine. And if mods roll through later and feel like my original message thanking the OP overstepped in this discussion that resulted, I can understand and respect that decision too.

All that said, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year as well!
 
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johnnymavrik said:
Thanks. Just got the Directors Cut for 17.99. Now I have to find out if I need to start over since I'll likely pay the $10 to upgrade this version (installed the Launch edition on my ps5 last month but didn't upgrade)..suspect I need to delete the first install?
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I’m not completely sure on that front. I know some games have the ability to import saves in a way that makes them usable on a next gen version. I know for a fact Spider-Man offered that option. No Man’s Sky and A Plague Tale did so as well. Perhaps somebody who has already played the Director’s Cut can shed some light on that. I hope Sucker Punch offers that option as well. Could make trophy hunting a little easier.
 
deadtrees said:
The PS4 director's cut showed up as $17.99, 70% off (YMMV).

If you buy that and want to upgrade it to the PS5 version, you have to pay another $10.

The PS5 version is not on clearance.
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ahhh gotcha, thanks for breaking it down for us!!

Anyone know if you start the launch edition but then pop in the directors cut if you can continue there no problem?

 
Team, 

Looking to head to Target right now and buy It Takes Two. 


Does it matter which version PS4 or XBOX?   talking vanilla consoles here

i.e. Are the graphics or frame rates better on one system v/s the other? 

Leaning toward xbox just to get achievements to help boost my Microsoft Rewards points if it doesn't matter..

 
I done goofed with target circle discounts. Since I went to self checkout I forgot that the target circle gotta be scanned. Not sure if u can do it urself at self checkout
 
Hypebeast69 said:
I done goofed with target circle discounts. Since I went to self checkout I forgot that the target circle gotta be scanned. Not sure if u can do it urself at self checkout
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target circle is in your wallet in the target app, so you can use it at self checkout, though you may have to pay using the app. i have never tried to use my barcode without having the payment method in there.

 
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No real clearance games. Only found SMT3 Nocturne for Switch for $15. I bought a copy for $25 back in November from somewhere, so I passed on it.

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Found a copy of Assassin’s Creed Odyssey for $12.83 (Giving to my brother for Christmas) and a copy of Octopath Traveler for $17.99 today.
 
Hypebeast69 said:
I done goofed with target circle discounts. Since I went to self checkout I forgot that the target circle gotta be scanned. Not sure if u can do it urself at self checkout
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If you have the coupon saved as in you physically clicked on it and saved it, when you enter your phone number on the card reader it automatically applies any applicable coupons into the order at self checkout and at the register.

 
Got my copy of Sashimi director's cut for 18 bucks as well! It was the last copy and it was still labeled as $59.99

 
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flooderdooden said:
I get the feeling you’re implying that I have committed return fraud. Keep in mind that I don’t disagree with your Store A/Store B example, since the premise there is the customer pressing for unfair enrichment. I also would add utilizing a store’s price match policy and later returning the same item without a receipt for full value would be a clear cut case of return fraud. Or the earlier example of returning an item in which the user replaced something functional with something defective. That’s a clear cut example as well. For clarity’s sake, I purchased the original copy of GoT last year around the holiday season. It might be interesting to go back and look at exactly how much GoT was selling for at that time, to see if perhaps I’ve unjustly enriched myself, as you seem to suggest. If you can find GoT for cheaper than $40, I’m open to the criticism. That said, I’d be curious as to what you think would be acceptable in the above situation? Should I have listed the vanilla version on eBay? Opened it and flipped it for a pittance to GameStop? Is it wrong that I sought to maximize its value at this point? Should I have inherently accepted less? Is Walmart defrauded if they value the game at a certain amount and can easily sell the game in its returned condition?

Whatever the result, I suspect that you see it a certain way, and that your mind’s made up on the matter. I welcome your point of view. And there will be people who agree with you, and I’m okay with that. People can disagree. Personally speaking, I tend to have more issues with el hoardos and those who buy up all the deals, only to flip said products to GameStop and the like. Long story short, everybody’s got their own calculus when it comes to ideas of ethics/ethical behavior. Honestly, I tend to stay in my own narrow lane, but I am a CAG through and through. I don’t buy multiple copies to flip or amortize through trades. If I see a deal or opportunity, I share it. I do aim to get the most for my money.

Anyway, if you feel better responding/chatting via DMs (to keep the thread from getting cluttered/sidetracked with this sort of discussion), that’s completely fine. And if mods roll through later and feel like my original message thanking the OP overstepped in this discussion that resulted, I can understand and respect that decision too.

All that said, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year as well!
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Bro, you can rationalize this any way you like to make yourself feel better. If it helps you to sleep to say “well, it’s not as bad as if I did this” by all means go for it.

What you did is termed cross-retailer return fraud.

 
soonerdoc said:
Bro, you can rationalize this any way you like to make yourself feel better. If it helps you to sleep to say “well, it’s not as bad as if I did this” by all means go for it.

What you did is termed cross-retailer return fraud.
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In what way did I unfairly profit from my original purchase of the vanilla copy of GoT? For context, here’s what Wikipedia defines as cross-retailer return fraud:

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As I’ve said before, I purchased the game last holiday season. Likewise, I cannot recall from whom I made the purchase, but I did decide to check on its pricing back then, and the cheapest it ever went was for $40 per earlier CAG threads. It’s sat on a shelf since then, unopened.

Fraud, by its very definition, implies that someone unfairly gains an advantage over another, to someone’s detriment. Looking at the above situation, this is not the case. I’ve made no more money than what I originally paid for it. As I said before in the original post to which you responded, I’m in agreement with Derrick1979 about the idea of someone buying something cheaper at Store A and then immediately returning it to Store B for a higher price/profit. For instance, if I had bought every copy of the clearanced Director’s Cut at Target for $18 apiece today, and returned them receiptless at Walmart for $40-60 worth of store credit apiece, that most definitely is the cross-retail fraud of which you speak. Obviously, that is wrong and shouldn’t be encouraged.

That said, I think part of this back-and-forth centers around the fact that Target has inexplicably decided to clearance the PS4 version of GoT Director’s Cut so quickly. By reducing it to $17.99 only three months after release, it’s created this sort of value-evaluation scenario, where facts are now getting erroneously conflated into a cross-retailer/Store A-Store B debate. To this end, I cannot help that the vanilla version of GoT was still $39.88 at Walmart but neither could I deny the opportunity to recoup original cost in the most expedient way. Apologies if that makes me persona non grata in the forums. Again, I’m a CAG through and through.

As for your observation regarding rationalization, I can appreciate your point of view, but that was not my intent. My purpose was not to muddy the water, but to show that there are gray/subjective areas when it comes to the application/observance of what each of us considers ethical. If we were disposed to having a wider conversation about the principles of ethical quandaries (and what could be perceived as ‘fraud’ and/or gaining unjust advantage/enrichment), there are other situations that could be just as questionable (some related to Target alone) that are often tacitly encouraged in these forums, but could be ethically suspect. I don’t say this to judge anybody, nor is it meant as a sort of rationalizing defense for my choice earlier today. It’s just to highlight that none of us are 100% cookie-cutter in our circumstances or beliefs, and it’s those gray areas that can make for truly interesting conversations.

Appreciate the input though, and hope you and yours have happy holidays!
 
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soonerdoc said:
Bro, you can rationalize this any way you like to make yourself feel better. If it helps you to sleep to say “well, it’s not as bad as if I did this” by all means go for it.

What you did is termed cross-retailer return fraud.
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DemonsMaster said:
Nothing says Merry Christmas like some good old return fraud
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flooderdooden said:
In what way did I unfairly profit from my original purchase of the vanilla copy of GoT? For context, here’s what Wikipedia defines as cross-retailer return fraud:

Appreciate the input though, and hope you and yours have happy holidays!
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ThatOneGuyWho said:
A lot of text to say you like fraud.
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shadowysea07 said:
All I want for Xmas is for everyone to not talk about their takes on return fraud.
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inverted_fray said:
We're all CAGS here, so what's a little fraud between friends?
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maaaaaaaaaaan oh man, If only yall put this much time and effort into video game talk this thread and forum would be the LIVEST..


Meanwhile I ended up buying IT TAKES TWO for both ps4 and xbone and hopefully my research can tell me which one to keep and I'll return the other one, WITH RECEIPT!!!! jeebus

still not sure what to do about GoT:DC and if it will just allow me to continue my game progress on the DC version over the standard one..


oNe

 
Sean Price II said:
maaaaaaaaaaan oh man, If only yall put this much time and effort into video game talk this thread and forum would be the LIVEST..


Meanwhile I ended up buying IT TAKES TWO for both ps4 and xbone and hopefully my research can tell me which one to keep and I'll return the other one, WITH RECEIPT!!!! jeebus

still not sure what to do about GoT:DC and if it will just allow me to continue my game progress on the DC version over the standard one..


oNe
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Your save will work on the director's cut
 
Thou doth protest too much.

You know what you did was wrong. Either stop doing it or stop telling us about it.

CAG is like Omar: it’s all in the game yo. But there are some rules you don’t break- like the Sunday truce.
 
Confucius said:
Thou doth protest too much.

You know what you did was wrong. Either stop doing it or stop telling us about it.

CAG is like Omar: it’s all in the game yo. But there are some rules you don’t break- like the Sunday truce.
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To your point, if you are going to engage in a dubious or questionable activity then at least have the good sense to keep quiet about it instead of advertising it. And if you aren't going to do that then be prepared for whatever may come.....

 
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Freeze Time said:
I completely missed out on the discounted Halloween candy this year. My local targets discounted 30 through 50% in a matter of days and then it was just all gone. It never got to 70% off. Will it be similar again for the after Christmas candy?
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Probably, I was at my local Target a few hours before closing yesterday and almost all the candy was gone, just a small table left. For Halloween candy, even at 30% off almost everything was gone at the Target stores I went to. Maybe stores ordered less this year not being sure of how much demand there would be?

 
YoshiFan1 said:
Probably, I was at my local Target a few hours before closing yesterday and almost all the candy was gone, just a small table left. For Halloween candy, even at 30% off almost everything was gone at the Target stores I went to. Maybe stores ordered less this year not being sure of how much demand there would be?
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I think so too the Christmas section at my Target was getting compressed a week before Christmas because they were selling out of stuff. They are just ordering less so they don’t have to clearance it.

 
flooderdooden said:
As for your observation regarding rationalization, I can appreciate your point of view, but that was not my intent. My purpose was not to muddy the water, but to show that there are gray/subjective areas when it comes to the application/observance of what each of us considers ethical. If we were disposed to having a wider conversation about the principles of ethical quandaries (and what could be perceived as ‘fraud’ and/or gaining unjust advantage/enrichment), there are other situations that could be just as questionable (some related to Target alone) that are often tacitly encouraged in these forums, but could be ethically suspect. I don’t say this to judge anybody, nor is it meant as a sort of rationalizing defense for my choice earlier today. It’s just to highlight that none of us are 100% cookie-cutter in our circumstances or beliefs, and it’s those gray areas that can make for truly interesting conversations.
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There is no muddying of the water or gray area. What you did is fraud. Not really a debate to be had.

Ask yourself this. If you went into the store and told them, “I bought this a year ago at a different store. Can I return it to you today for store credit so I can get something else?”, what do you think the store would’ve said? I’m guessing you did not say that.

If you were honest about it and they said sure no problem, then no issue.

 
Honest stupid question: I’m in no way endorsing or approving of return fraud (and this will be the last time you see me bring up the subject), but what’s the difference between that and something like, say, a return/rebuy situation for a game that’s full price at one store and clearance at another? I ask because I’ve used the return/rebuy strategy at Target before multiple times with a pretty good success rate, but I also don’t want to be fraudulent in my shopping habits.


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trchavez416 said:
Honest stupid question: I’m in no way endorsing or approving of return fraud (and this will be the last time you see me bring up the subject), but what’s the difference between that and something like, say, a return/rebuy situation for a game that’s full price at one store and clearance at another? I ask because I’ve used the return/rebuy strategy at Target before multiple times with a pretty good success rate, but I also don’t want to be fraudulent in my shopping habits.


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Return and rebuy means you have receipts
 
trchavez416 said:
Honest stupid question: I’m in no way endorsing or approving of return fraud (and this will be the last time you see me bring up the subject), but what’s the difference between that and something like, say, a return/rebuy situation for a game that’s full price at one store and clearance at another? I ask because I’ve used the return/rebuy strategy at Target before multiple times with a pretty good success rate, but I also don’t want to be fraudulent in my shopping habits.
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Its the same store. You have your receipts. They know what the price was before the return and allow you to buy at the new price after the return. The store knows everything about where you got the item from and allow the sale at the newer low price.

Not like return fraud where the store assumed you bought the item at their store and assume that you lost your receipt for their store.
 
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Its the same store. You have your receipts. They know what the price was before the return and allow you to buy at the new price after the return. The store knows everything about where you got the item from and allow the sale at the newer low price.

Not like return fraud where the store assumed you bought the item at their store and assume that you lost your receipt for their store.
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dude is still actively policing the return game on a site devoted to cheap gaming and all that it entails but IGNORES any video game talk on a site devoted to gaming and all that it entails.. y'all already shamed that one dude into oblivion, he hasn't responded since xmas eve, so can you retreat back into the shadows where you normally lurk now please?

 
If you participate in return fraud, hoard games, or flip them, just keep it to yourself. (unless you are in the ebay or Gamestop thread it seems)  Share your finds with others so others know what to look for and shut up about the other shit. 

 
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keyblader1985 said:
You're the only one who seems to be upset that people are having the discussion, dude.
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can you blame me? The Return NO Receipt wars have gone on long enuff man, so far cool calm heads have prevailed, but I'm jus tryin to head it off before ish gets UGLY and then we have insults and flame wars poppin off.


NOW did anyone here buy and actually play IT TAKES TWO, worth it or nah?

also graphically or even FPS wise is one console better over the other? Strictly talking vanilla ps4 and xBone here.

 
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