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Vinny said:
Jesus.. $60 for a repo?
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The cart is a repro which cost more to make than original cartridges were, but this is one of the cases where I don't see as big a deal since it's a game that was never released before and was left unfinished until recently. So a new/first release. There are a few boneheaded releases LRG has done for common and often cheap games, which is easy to throw shade at... but this isn't one of them. Not that I'm going to buy it. But it's less to do with the price and more to do with my fandom for the franchise waning.
 
Yeah, it's more of "unlicensed game" than "repro". I was thinking about this for a while, how the term "repro" is misused all the time, and even made a list in my head of all the types of games that get mislabeled. Here's the tier list, in order from Garbage to Gold:

"Counterfeits" - The maker does not own the rights and is attempting to pass it off as the real deal. Examples are any Pokemon game you can find on AliExpress.

"Bootleg" - The maker does not own the rights yet is selling you the product anyway. Examples are any rom hack or fan-translation on a cart.

"Repro" - The maker DOES own the rights, and created an imitation of a thing that already existed. The "reproduction" part is because they had to reproduce the means of creation from scratch, since the original factory and such have long closed. Examples of ACTUAL repros are ironically pretty rare, and are almost solely from limited-print companies, such as LRG releasing Zombies Ate My Neighbors on SNES.

"Unlicensed" - The maker owns the rights, but the platform holder (Nintendo, Sony, etc.) never approved of the game. Classic examples are the NES games from Wisdom Tree, Camerica, Tengen, etc. Current examples are stuff like lim-print company releases of stuff that were never finished/translated before. This is also where homebrew products go, assuming they don't use stolen assets. Though homebrew implies "one guy with a laptop and a tool shed", whereas unlicensed games imply an actual professional team with some kind of factory production and distribution line.

"Official" - The maker owns the right, the platform holder approved, and it got a normal retail release. Not much to say here. Examples can be found on all store shelves.

And finally, bonus category:

"Unreleased" - The maker owns the rights, the platform holder did (or would have) approved, but the game never got a normal retail release. Usually the game was basically ready to go, but got cancelled due to low sales forecasts, or the company simply went bankrupt. But somewhere in an office building or warehouse, these games WERE created, and they have now leaked out to the second-hand market. "Prototypes" also belong here, though their reason for being unreleased is simply "we made a better version the next week."
 
It reminds me a lot of the port vs. publish and remaster vs. remake discussions. I think a lot of people say things colloquially without understanding the intricacies of the industry. Which to an extent is fine, not everyone's a native English speaker and the distinction isn't always pivotal to the discussion at hand.

All of it's better than genre debates, though. If I see another thread debating whether FFXVI is a JRPG I might just blow my brains out.
 
that's dark^

anywho the problem is ports, remasters and remakes can have hardly any differences between the 3 and murk up the waters. take p3. you have vanilla, fes which was same platform enhanced port, p3p (a weird case not sure what to call that), ps2 version on ps3 of one of the 2 possibly both I dunno, then the multiplats of p3p, and now reloaded.

tales of symphonia, tales of phantasia, ff4 all come to mind as well with multiple versions spanning decades.

it also doesn't help that publishers throw the term hd remaster on anything.
 
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TheKbob said:
In other news, in being fair and balanced, it seems that Arzette: The Jewel of Faramore is getting very positive reviews over on Steam.

So kudos on LRG for not farting out a turd of a meme game. Still an odd endeavor, but that's our LRG!
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I'll play it when it's bundled or like $2-3 bucks in a sale. Looks like any other platformer, which I've played way too many meh ones lately.
 
nitrosmob said:
I'll play it when it's bundled or like $2-3 bucks in a sale. Looks like any other platformer, which I've played way too many meh ones lately.
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You gotta, there is so much junk put onto limited print carts, you'd go broke AND be left with a pile of shit you'll never play again. I go with the sales on the eShop and it's easily saved me almost $200 against buying awful physical games, so far.
 
Arzette looks like something I'd enjoy, but it reminds me a lot of the Wales Interactive FMVs they put out. I'd probably play it once and then never look at again - is it worth $40+ after shipping/tax? Probably not. The Wales stuff goes on sale pretty often too so I'm going to approach Arzette in the same manner - add it to my wishlist on PSN and maybe get it at some point down the line with a sale. Heck, odds are it'll be 50% off at some point before the physical ships.
 
Xerox1919 said:
Yeah, it's more of "unlicensed game" than "repro". I was thinking about this for a while, how the term "repro" is misused all the time, and even made a list in my head of all the types of games that get mislabeled. Here's the tier list, in order from Garbage to Gold:

"Counterfeits" - The maker does not own the rights and is attempting to pass it off as the real deal. Examples are any Pokemon game you can find on AliExpress.

"Bootleg" - The maker does not own the rights yet is selling you the product anyway. Examples are any rom hack or fan-translation on a cart.

"Repro" - The maker DOES own the rights, and created an imitation of a thing that already existed. The "reproduction" part is because they had to reproduce the means of creation from scratch, since the original factory and such have long closed. Examples of ACTUAL repros are ironically pretty rare, and are almost solely from limited-print companies, such as LRG releasing Zombies Ate My Neighbors on SNES.

"Unlicensed" - The maker owns the rights, but the platform holder (Nintendo, Sony, etc.) never approved of the game. Classic examples are the NES games from Wisdom Tree, Camerica, Tengen, etc. Current examples are stuff like lim-print company releases of stuff that were never finished/translated before. This is also where homebrew products go, assuming they don't use stolen assets. Though homebrew implies "one guy with a laptop and a tool shed", whereas unlicensed games imply an actual professional team with some kind of factory production and distribution line.

"Official" - The maker owns the right, the platform holder approved, and it got a normal retail release. Not much to say here. Examples can be found on all store shelves.

And finally, bonus category:

"Unreleased" - The maker owns the rights, the platform holder did (or would have) approved, but the game never got a normal retail release. Usually the game was basically ready to go, but got cancelled due to low sales forecasts, or the company simply went bankrupt. But somewhere in an office building or warehouse, these games WERE created, and they have now leaked out to the second-hand market. "Prototypes" also belong here, though their reason for being unreleased is simply "we made a better version the next week."
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So essentially...first three fake and last three real, gotcha.
 
Ironically, I was just looking at the PAL and Japanese releases for KoF XIII this morning, which a hunch LRG was doing this. I have it for 360, when it was GwG, but I didn't realize there were DLC characters. And they're $5 each! The global edition has it included.
 
I already have the Japanese PS4 version of KOF XIII. They seem to always announce games after they have already been released in Japan. So, a lot of people have already bought it. IMO KOF XIII is the most beautiful 2D game ever developed. I noticed in the email they say they have spare shock boxes for sale. Of course, the link doesn't work. Why do they have these? They look like actual AES cases. Their previous classic edition SNK games didn't come in cases like that. Also why are they called shock boxes? I used to collect AES games and the cases were never called shock boxes, these are snap lock cases. Shock boxes were the cases custom made by a member at the neo-geo.com forums, they were used to hold loose MVS carts.
 
I was holding out for this one, since I assumed LRG would do it. They've worked with SNK a ton before, and a physical edition was created for PAL. There's no reason why they wouldn't've wanted to release this one for NTSC. They sure took their sweet-ass time, though. The PAL one was like a year ago.
 
Tothoro said:
LRG is probably doing the KoF XIII Global Match ESRB edition:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1759628415890514095

In true LRG fashion, the links are broken and there's nothing on their site or socials about it.
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lol exactly what I came here to see if there was info on. I got the email, clicked it - dead link and I don't see it on their site anywhere.

Looks like it was one day early and they're supposed to be there tomorrow:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1759632949496922395
 
portnoyd said:
I'm more interested in a physical Dave the Diver tbh.
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I just noticed that the LRG reddit has been set to private. Anyone know what's going on with them? Has it been discussed on their disscord or anywhere else? I thought LRG might have said something about it ,but they are weird about were they post info sometimes.
 
Vinny said:
I'm confused, I see that they're releasing a trailer for Ninja Five-O but how do you know LRG is likely releasing a physical copy?

I have an OG copy but this is one I'd be all for, game was fun... but maybe not from LRG.
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They said there was a 3rd Konami game they were going to announce. First 2 were Felix and Rocket Knight.
 
guy3467 said:
I just noticed that the LRG reddit has been set to private. Anyone know what's going on with them? Has it been discussed on their disscord or anywhere else? I thought LRG might have said something about it ,but they are weird about were they post info sometimes.
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LRG staff indicated that the Reddit was hacked and they're working on getting it back up.
 
One has to think games like Hi-Fi Rush and Contra would be sold outside of just LRG's site, meaning at VGP and Amazon ... right?
 
Does Amazon only pick up distro and non-numbered LRG titles? I actually don't know.

Regardless, VGP gets just about everything (though usually with a small markup).
Didn't LRG say Persona 3 Portable wouldn't show up at other retailers? VGP has them, though for what ends up being roughly a $10USD markup
 
Mattiful-Joe said:
One has to think games like Hi-Fi Rush and Contra would be sold outside of just LRG's site, meaning at VGP and Amazon ... right?
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Partner stores like VGP get everything (though sometimes not many copies), Amazon gets "distribution titles". There might be something different in the contract for distribution releases, but for customers all it really means is that it's released on a Tuesday, isn't numbered, and goes to big retailers after its stint on LRG's site. And as an aside I still think the "distribution line" was originally just a way for them to circumvent early commitments around Switch release quantity/schedule (they originally said something like one every two weeks - lol).

There's also always the possibility that something originally released as a numbered title gets a retail run later. LRG relinquishes the rights after their sale (but sometimes they do retain timed exclusivity) so it's really up to the developer at that point. Wonder Boy and a few others have gotten retail runs after LRG.

Pheria said:
Does Amazon only pick up distro and non-numbered LRG titles? I actually don't know.

Regardless, VGP gets just about everything (though usually with a small markup).
Didn't LRG say Persona 3 Portable wouldn't show up at other retailers? VGP has them, though for what ends up being roughly a $10USD markup
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Josh fearmongered pretty hard on Twitter saying that it would have a "significant markup" at other sites, I wouldn't really consider $10 significant in this instance but I guess that wording drives sales which is (unsurprisingly) their goal:
 
Got it. One of those seems pretty fairly worded. They didn't give those like VGP a bulk discount so they pay what we pay and just resell plus a little to make something off of it. In his defense I guess there was no way to know what VGP's markup would have been.
 
A lot of the stuff Josh or LRG say on Twitter is technically correct, but the wording tends to be intentionally ambiguous or misleading depending on how generous your interpretation is. There have only been a few examples I'd consider really egregious (like the Shiren PC disc situation), but it definitely reads as leaning into the FOMO aspects of their business model.
 
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