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accountable for rape, for assault, sexual assault, negligent hiring, false imprisonment, and sexual harassment.

The amendment passed 68-30, but as the Washington Monthly points out, 75% of Republicans voted against this amendment. But the bill truly shows what the minority party considers "bipartisanship." Nothing. They'll vote for nothing, and their vote on this bill proves that they should be given no compromise at all, because it won't change a thing.

75% of Republicans are against the right of an employee of a military contractor to file a lawsuit when they're gang-raped by other employees (as Jamie Leigh Jones and others were), and they're against withholding government contracts from companies that don't prevent or react to these kinds of situations.

Here's the ENTIRE TEXT of the amendment that was voted on:

Sec. 8104. (a) None of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used for any existing or new Federal contract if the contractor or a subcontractor at any tier requires that an employee or independent contractor, as a condition of employment, sign a contract that mandates that the employee or independent contractor performing work under the contract or subcontract resolve through arbitration any claim under title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 or any tort related to or arising out of sexual assault or harassment, including assault and battery, intentional infliction of emotional distress, false imprisonment, or negligent hiring, supervision, or retention.
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How can you vote against that?

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_10/020320.php

Let's not overlook the larger context here. Democrats are expected to try to find "bipartisan" support on practically everything. Some GOP lawmakers think health care reform isn't "legitimate" if it doesn't have 80 votes.

And yet, when the Senate considered a measure yesterday to give rape victims who work for U.S.-subsidized defense contractors a day in court, 30 out of 40 Republican senators said, "No."

The notion that the majority should be able to reach constructive, worthwhile compromises with this minority is clearly ridiculous.
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So I still await the point where the democrats just say "fuck it" and push some shit through. The republicans have already outright stated that they're not going to vote for anything the democrats come up with for health insurance (and apparently anything at all, by this example).

If they just do it right then the republicans will just come off as whiny crybabies rather than stalwart defenders of freedom (as they've successfully painted democratic objections in the past).

EDIT: Hahaha, an amendment proposed by Al Franken just passed, I wonder how long that will be funny.
 
What could their rationale possibly be? "Sheeeeeeeeeeet ninjaz, u kno it. Bitches be bitchin'."

I think I need to get out of this country. The same people ruining it for the last eight years are going to do everything in their power to keep on doing just that, and slowly poison a large portion of the country into thinking "Look! It's not better! That black ****** aint helping shit!"

Edit: I like Digg.com's suggestion to call this action "pro-rape." Perfect way to classify it.
 
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While it looks horrible on the surface, I would like to see some of the Republican justifications for not voting it. I'm too lazy to look it up.

In the past, usually, when one side won't vote on something that seems a no-brainer on the surface, it's because there are other little nit-picky button-pushing bullshit things under the hood of the law. It's a popular tactic, because it makes it really easy to give your opponent really bad PR.

"Look! The republicans don't want to save dying children!" - and nobody bothered to notice that the bill also pays hookers a bonus for having babies..... or some shit.
 
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In the past, usually, when one side won't vote on something that seems a no-brainer on the surface, it's because there are other little nit-picky button-pushing bullshit things under the hood of the law. It's a popular tactic, because it makes it really easy to give your opponent really bad PR.
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This was just an amendment, not a complex bill. And Myke posted the WHOLE text of it above. So that doesn't seem to be the case here.
 
Conservatives say it will add to red tape and cause tax payer money to spent on expensive legal defense teams.

Also, tax payer money (money from a settlement) could be used to pay off a bill at an abortion clinic.

Hell, there's no good reason for this other than Republicans have drawn a line in the sand and ANYTHING a Democrat proposes is bad for the country. I think we're done.
 
I wish the democratic party had more of a spine. I'm completely ready for them to just tell the Republicans to fuck off and eat it. Nothing is ever going to get passed while they're still trying to get bipartisan support. Shit like this just shows that they will vote against something solely because it came form the Democrats.
 
I love how the Democrats have the majority in both the house and the senate and they have the presidency, but they still can't (or can barely) get anything accomplished, and continue to whine about the Republicans getting in their way.
 
This is clearly against American principles. If you can't contract away your right to sue after being gang raped by your coworkers, then we have no liberty at all.

Right?
 
How is this any different from calling anybody who disagrees with you 'racist'?

Democrats are being bipartisan? Seriously guys, both sides only want their side in power. This argument only assists with that.

Yes, thats right. People making pro-democrat or pro-republican rants only fuel the same fire thats burning down America. Stop being pro-politics and be pro-american.
 
[quote name='AdultLink']How is this any different from calling anybody who disagrees with you 'racist'?

Democrats are being bipartisan? Seriously guys, both sides only want their side in power.[/QUOTE]

Put your talking points back in your pocket and speak like a grown up.

What reason would you have to vote against the language in the OP?
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Put your talking points back in your pocket and speak like a grown up.

What reason would you have to vote against the language in the OP?[/QUOTE]

I don't, next time stop ranting like a whiny brat and learn to read.
 
[quote name='AdultLink']be pro-american.[/QUOTE]
I'd say anti-rape-resolution-through-employer-chosen-mediation is probably pro-American on the scale of 0 to American.
 
[quote name='speedracer']I'd say anti-rape-resolution-through-employer-chosen-mediation is probably pro-American on the scale of 0 to American.[/QUOTE]

The point of this argument isn't the vote itself, it's that congress cannot get along due to the republicans acting like whiny children. This isn't debatable. The problem is congress does this depending on side. Republicans vetoed any bill Clinton did when they had control, Democrats did for any bill Bush had. Nothing is worked on with any sort of bipartisanship rather republican or democrat, and it's tearing the country apart.

Any bill put forth in this highly divided country will probably be torn apart at this point. It doesn't matter if it helps americans or not.
 
And btw myke, the non-voting is bullshit and the republicans should be voted out. But politicians no longer care about the littleman.
 
You're trying to argue against one specific bill's vote by making vague allusions to what you perceive reality to be, offering no detailed examples.

You also suggest that Congress "vetoes" bills which...yeah, I'll let you figure out the problem with that one.

You offer no examples, but the FISA amendment and the Military Commissions Act are two examples I'll give you off the top of my head where Bush and the Repubs got EXACTLY what they wanted with Democrat support. Both were shitty, harmful, dangerous bills that stole your freedom and protected the wealthy elite.

Your turn.
 
Kinda funny how a congress that is divided on helping the American people with rape and health care are quick and nearly unanimous with helping the wealthy elite huh?
 
No one should be surprised about this.. At all. The GOP is just that fucking evil and uncaring about the average citizen. It couldn't happen to them, so they don't give a shit. As long as it helps out their corporate buddies, they are more than willing to sell out the American people. The Democrats also do this, but they hide it better, like voting for a bill that prevents putting fucking RAPE CHARGES into arbitration instead of against it just because it affects their multi-millionaire buddies. The GOP gets the pass from millions of stupid Americans simply because they are against abortion and gays, and I'm sure this won't change the idiots' minds because they are just that fucking dumb.
 
Here's a better amendment:

Let's stop farming our military out to private contractors.

I mean, seriously? The military (and by that, I mean, protecting our borders) is a large part of what our Federal Government is supposed to do. Instead, let's pay private companies to do that while we take over auto manufacturers, the health care industry and everything else instead. What kind of topsy-turvy world is this?

Meanwhile, Obama refuses to get out of Afghanistan, has no clear strategy or goal, is propping up an Afghan leader he doesn't even believe in and is ignoring requests by military leaders to send in more troops - while the ones that are there are left to die.
 
[quote name='spmahn']I love how the Democrats have the majority in both the house and the senate and they have the presidency, but they still can't (or can barely) get anything accomplished, and continue to whine about the Republicans getting in their way.[/QUOTE]

Don't be fooled by the simple thought "the Dems have the majority, why can't they get anything done?". Due to the Democrats strategy (Putting up right wing democrats to contest Republicans in the past elections) The party pretty diverse and due to the diversity it makes it a lot harder to have a united front.


And I really would like to sound off to one of my Senators for not voting for this but honestly, do they really care?
 
[quote name='AdultLink']How is this any different from calling anybody who disagrees with you 'racist'?
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Generally someone doesn't have a penis forcefully shoved inside them after being called a racist. Generally.

But no one has ever called me that before, so maybe that's how it is.

People making pro-democrat or pro-republican rants only fuel the same fire thats burning down America. Stop being pro-politics and be pro-american.
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False equivocation.

[quote name='AdultLink'] Republicans vetoed any bill Clinton did when they had control, Democrats did for any bill Bush had. [/QUOTE]

Let's be fair. Bush was dumbtarded. And even with that dumbtardery, he was able to sell both sides on a faulty war against a country who barely did anything to us beyond rubbing their dicks on maps where "America" was written.

Sell your case and it'll get in. But I guess protecting the rights of the downtrodden has no money in it.
 
[quote name='Strell']Let's be fair. Bush was dumbtarded. And even with that dumbtardery, he was able to sell both sides on a faulty war [...][/QUOTE]

Which seems to me like a good enough reason to boot out both parties. And not put those who supported the war in charge of foreign policy.
 
[quote name='Strell']Generally someone doesn't have a penis forcefully shoved inside them after being called a racist. Generally.

But no one has ever called me that before, so maybe that's how it is.



False equivocation.



Let's be fair. Bush was dumbtarded. And even with that dumbtardery, he was able to sell both sides on a faulty war against a country who barely did anything to us beyond rubbing their dicks on maps where "America" was written.

Sell your case and it'll get in. But I guess protecting the rights of the downtrodden has no money in it.[/QUOTE]

Eh, you still don't get the point. You paint republicans as the enemy while the democrats also voted for things like TARP, Patroit Act, they give more funds to wall street and Goldman Sachs then anyone, so the democrats would love to pretend like they care while screwing America too.

You guys want to ban rape, here's an idea: Start figuring out what's going on, and then ban wall street and all current incumbent politicians, because ALL ARE OUT TO RAPE ALL AMERICANS.
 
[quote name='AdultLink']Eh, you still don't get the point. [/quote]

I just thought it was unbelievably hilarious - in a "my arm is broken because I dropped the world's largest dildo on it" sort of way - that you compared being called a racist as metaphorical to gang rape under the guise of "it's just people disagreeing with each other."

Again, because one of those things is just name calling, and the other is phallus-in-your-ass.

You paint republicans as the enemy
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In this particular instance? You bet. But I handle things on a case by case basis, which is absurd in today's on-the-go world.

You guys want to ban rape
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No, because it's pretty difficult to ban it. It's already illegal, which is the extent it can be "banned."

What we want is judicial outlets for victims. There's a big damned difference. Everyone can't be defended all the time. But they ought to be able to defend themselves when they are able, even if it's after-the-fact. Taking that option away is Machiavellian, and downright evil if your hidden agenda is "those guys shouldn't have to waste money on some crying bitch."
 
Did Louie Gohmert over there mention that the hate crime bill didn't include letting the families of the victims choose the perpetrators method of death? Isn't that cruel and unusual punishment?

This childish power struggle between the parties is beyond me.
 
[quote name='Strell']I just thought it was unbelievably hilarious - in a "my arm is broken because I dropped the world's largest dildo on it" sort of way - that you compared being called a racist as metaphorical to gang rape under the guise of "it's just people disagreeing with each other."

Again, because one of those things is just name calling, and the other is phallus-in-your-ass.[/QUOTE]

What should be hilarious is people like you. Comparisons in your mind are only valid if two things are close to approximisation, even if the democrats don't care about anybody as well.

Even if the two don't totally and completely compare you should be able to see the point and not act like a child. Otherwise, enjoy the ass raping the democrats will give as well as all of us, after the repulicans did.
 
Yes, what should be hilarious is people like me, who point out physical mutilation as a pretty poor analogy to verbal denigration.

How you manage to fail to understand that me kicking someone in the nuts hurts more than calling them a doodie head is deplorable. I'm amazed you even think the spectrums overlap.

To go even further and add trauma and humiliation to an assault in such a way that both shames and humiliates a person, augmented with sexual domination and primal horror, and then sit back and relegate that - again - to something little more than a "hey, you smell" verbal exchange is beyond the physical shock limits my brain can manage.

So listen, keep throwing up your vague nonsense, about how "well really everyone is wrong and everything they do is wrong and so therefore it's all under the same wrong-umbrella," and let the rest of us progress further into the future.

My point - which you think I've missed, but you cannot understand - is that I shouldn't have to consider your "discussion" when it's built on such a poor foundation. So, again, saying being called a racist = rape in the grand scheme of things is a pathetic starting point, and puts the rest of your projections in grave territory of dumbshit.
 
[quote name='Strell']I'm such a wonderful dipshit[/QUOTE]

About sums up your reply.

Listen dipshit, again my point of the racist comment was not a direct comparison as much as an example that democrats disagree with people too, democrats don't care about people either. If democrats had a chance they'd make the same types of votes that the republicans are doing (anti-american). Your rants go nowhere but to fantasies in your head which all the while you ignore what people say going 'YOU CAN'T HEAR ME BECAUSE I'M RIGHT' when you should probably turn off the goggles and try and FOLLOW A DISCUSSION for once.

Discussions can't even have foundations if the opposing idiot, like you, refuse to listen to the discussion, now can it?
 
[quote name='Strell']Let's be fair. Bush was dumbtarded. And even with that dumbtardery, he was able to sell both sides on a faulty war against a country who barely did anything to us beyond rubbing their dicks on maps where "America" was written.

Sell your case and it'll get in. But I guess protecting the rights of the downtrodden has no money in it.[/QUOTE]

Or maybe we could get back on subject for a second. Bush convinced both sides yet you are stupid enough to belive the democrats are innocent?

Or maybe you could explain the reason that democrats and republicans do stuff like this, call people racist, so on and so forth, while bills made to help the elite pass by quickly and almost unamimously?

Try and use any brains you have. Or maybe you are gonna tell me that the democrats were tricked, and truly care for you... Maybe you are gonna say that democrats love you and want to help you, while ignoring bills getting passed to take your money and make it wall streets money?

Or maybe you'll just insult me again, cover your ears, and act like a child again?
 
[quote name='AdultLink']Or maybe you'll just insult me again, cover your ears, and act like a child again?[/QUOTE]

:rofl: Yet again, the irony is priceless.
 
[quote name='Kirin Lemon']I must rescue my ass buddy![/QUOTE]

Oh you two are hilarious. And extremely obvious and predictable. You ignore a discussion, twist things around and you insult someone. Well I'm no longer taking the bait you two.
 
Don't worry, this will go on and on without opposition. The best anyone is iwlling to do is post on random internet forums, spill some hatred, then forget it happened.

Armed revolts and such went out of style when we got television to keep us glued in place. You can go protest but it just makes you look like an ass out for public attention. To the people you protest, you don't matter. To the bystander, you're in the way waving a stupid sign.
 
[quote name='Diosoth']Don't worry, this will go on and on without opposition. The best anyone is iwlling to do is post on random internet forums, spill some hatred, then forget it happened.

Armed revolts and such went out of style when we got television to keep us glued in place. You can go protest but it just makes you look like an ass out for public attention. To the people you protest, you don't matter. To the bystander, you're in the way waving a stupid sign.[/QUOTE]

The revolution will not be televised?

I don't want an armed revolution. For a start I'd like to see a less easily manipulated America. I'd like to see people stand up for victim's rights. I'd like to see people protesting in support of blue collar America. Instead we have people protesting because they want to keep the ineffectual, wasteful, fatcat-supporting healthcare system.

America may be one of the only places in the world I can think of where the people actively protest in support of keeping themselves down.

I hope in the new version of "They Live", they go to the 9/12 rally and all the signs say "Keep taking advantage of me"
 
[quote name='AdultLink']Bush convinced both sides yet you are stupid enough to belive the democrats are innocent?[/QUOTE]

Believe it or not, that's what a lot of folks on the left (not saying this is you Strell) actually do believe. As long as "their guy" does a mea culpa, they are free to blame all their idiotic decisions on Bush and the Republican Party.

Similarly, the right and the Republican Party would have us believe that they are now the party of ethics in Washington. To which I go: :lol: :lol: :rofl:

We're a pretty stupid country sometimes, because a lot of credulous people (and journalists for that matter) will believe anything these fuckers say.
 
For all you folks wondering why the Democrats don't ram-rod their socialist agendas through like a freight train - the answer is simple: the next election.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']This thread needs a "NO U" and a lock.

Thanks for making sure - yet again - we never have anything nice, AdultLink.[/QUOTE]

Your asshole friends act like idiots and I'm to blame? I got tired of it is simply the case.
 
Your initial post is wholly unrelated to anything in this topic.

Is it also void of intellectual substance, and more than that, you have been batting 1.000 since then.
 
To make this thread a little lighter, I just want to comment that myke's new avatar is constantly making me smile. Nice way to own up to getting owned.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']Thank you Strell you are awesome and rock my world on a daily basis[/QUOTE]

You and several others.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Your initial post is wholly unrelated to anything in this topic.

Is it also void of intellectual substance, and more than that, you have been batting 1.000 since then.[/QUOTE]

Basically means if it's not something you agree with, it's stupid and you whine like a baby.

Bashing somebody can't help your delusions about democrats myke.
 
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[quote name='AdultLink']Basically means if it's not something you agree with, it's stupid and you whine like a baby.

Bashing somebody can't help your delusions about democrats myke.[/QUOTE]

:baby: You're an irony machine!
 
[quote name='AdultLink']Basically means if it's not something you agree with, it's stupid and you whine like a baby.

Bashing somebody can't help your delusions about democrats myke.[/QUOTE]

I mean you don't make any fucking sense.

Keep knockin' 'em out of the the park there, Kirby Puckett.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I mean you don't make any fucking sense.

Keep knockin' 'em out of the the park there, Kirby Puckett.[/QUOTE]

Of course not to a political fanboy. The entire point of your topic was to bash republicans, not to make any meaningful sort of intelligent conversation yourself, while you constantly bash me.

You ignore any issue that the democrats do just as bad just to find anything to bash republicans. You accuse me of being an idiot, of not making any sense, but the problem is talking to a fanboy, nothing in the realm of opposing views make any sense.
 
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