$400 Next gen systems? $70 games? hope not...

By the time that I've finished my backlog of games, there will likely be a price drop on the consoles. I also don't usually spend $50 or more on games, unless it is hard to find or had some extras with it.

 
1. No more than 150-175 for a console. I first bought my ps2 for 170. GC at 100, and xbox at 130. I'm waiting until they drop. Besides, i've got plenty of games to keep me busy - and then when I buy next gen - all the games I want will have dropped in price.

2. 50 - but I rarely buy at 50 now unless it's nippon ichi and I really want it - I've got a shitload of games I want to finish - so I play those first and by the time I do finish they have dropped in price.
 
[quote name='cdeener']No, it isn't like that. I am just saying that if people didn't always live by the "I have to have it first" mentality we could get the companies to lower their prices soon after launch. For example, when most games don't sale well within a few months after launch what happens they drop the price. It probably won't happen but it is just a thought.[/QUOTE]

yeah i hear what you were saying i was just having a little fun :)

but the problem with the industry is that generally, if the console doesn't launch very well, companies (and the media) start to adverstise doom and gloom for the system. also, a price drop too early also is a bad sign, and the next thing you know, developers start abandoning the hardware (re: Gamecube).

So, i guess in a way, strong system sales and early adopters do really end up making the system better. and everyone who is patient and can wait the year or two it takes for a price drop eventually get to reap the rewards. you just dont want too many people waiting.
 
[quote name='mgriff']I think that the entire market is going to crash if anyone tries release a console for anymore than $300 and charge anymore than $50 for a game.[/QUOTE]

My thoughts excactly. :applause:

I don't know what I'll be willing to pay for a next-gen console... first they have to release something I really want, then I'll figure out how much I can pay for it.
 
Ok well no way in hell will the Xbox 360 or PS3 be less than 300 so if you want one at launch sucks to be you and you have to wait. Me id be willing to pay 400 maybe Maybe 450 for PS3 or 360 Revolution im not sure. As for games 65.
 
[quote name='Vampire Hunter D']Ok well no way in hell will the Xbox 360 or PS3 be less than 300 so if you want one at launch sucks to be you and you have to wait. Me id be willing to pay 400 maybe Maybe 450 for PS3 or 360 Revolution im not sure. As for games 65.[/QUOTE]


Ooooooo someone is so richy richy.

I need to own all three with a library of at least 20 games for each console - so - price drops I shall wait for. And it doesn't really suck at all. I get to save money while still enjoying the current generation which is still going on - probably will keep going (to an extent) even after the next gen is released.
 
I think that I'm going to wait at least a year on these . . . maybe into 2007.

Mainly because I have a pile of stuff to play plus games from this generation I still want to buy.

That would give time for system drops and used games to hit the market.
 
EB's already got preorders up for games for Xbox 360 at 59.99 a game... and they aren't usually wrong on prices =/

I can barely spend 50 on a game, but 60?
 
[quote name='Roufuss']EB's already got preorders up for games for Xbox 360 at 59.99 a game... and they aren't usually wrong on prices =/

I can barely spend 50 on a game, but 60?[/QUOTE]

I can't afford that - mostly because there are at least 3 games every month that I want - and this is due to the fact that I own gc, xbox, ps2 and a gameboy player.
 
[quote name='SkyGheNe']I can't afford that - mostly because there are at least 3 games every month that I want - and this is due to the fact that I own gc, xbox, ps2 and a gameboy player.[/QUOTE]

Exactly... I only have PS2 and Gamecube at the moment (Xbox broke), and I'm lucky GC dosen't have many games on it that I want, since there's enough on PS2 as it is.

Imagine owning three systems with new games 60 dollars or more for each... if that's the case, I'll just stick to one system.
 
I'd be willing to spend whatever nintendo wants me to spend after hearing that Smash Bros. will be a launch title and online, and three hundred on X360 and PS3 if I even feel like buying them at launch. As for the more expensive games, One word: Gamefly
 
From everything I've heard, the PS3 will be closer to $500 and I never really considered the idea of buying a console for that price. But after comparing it to some other purchases I've made, for instance a recliner for $500, I find myself considering the value I get out of that $500. I have paid much more for things I would be using much less. And that damn PS3 looks sooo good.... I would wait for the first price drop personally, but I don't see it dropping below $300 until much later in its life cycle. The XBox 360 on the other hand, In my opinion will follow the same pricing paths of previous generation consoles; $300 - 250 then $200 then $150 and finally $100.
 
Since I have enough games to last me several years, and not that into graphics I can hold off to buying at launch.

I would pay $200 for the PS3 and XBOX 360 at this point since there's nothing that they've showed that warrants me paying more since I'm not a graphics whore. Everything is just the same games that I don't buy now, but prettier.

I'd be willing to pay $250 for the Revolution just for the classic games, but only if they were no more than $5 each, otherwise $200.

$40 would be my limit for buying games, except for games release by Atlus since they seem to stay at $50. There is no way I'm going back to paying $60 for a game only package, for that price it better be a limited edition will cool extras.
 
[quote name='felixlighter']From everything I've heard, the PS3 will be closer to $500 and I never really considered the idea of buying a console for that price. But after comparing it to some other purchases I've made, for instance a recliner for $500, I find myself considering the value I get out of that $500. I have paid much more for things I would be using much less. And that damn PS3 looks sooo good.... I would wait for the first price drop personally, but I don't see it dropping below $300 until much later in its life cycle. The XBox 360 on the other hand, In my opinion will follow the same pricing paths of previous generation consoles; $300 - 250 then $200 then $150 and finally $100.[/QUOTE]

xbox this generation wont drop below 150. They've already stopped production - so it's staying at 150 new.
 
[quote name='SkyGheNe']xbox this generation wont drop below 150. They've already stopped production - so it's staying at 150 new.[/QUOTE]

Retail stores will want to get that stock gone ASAP the closer we get to Xbox 360... we'll see price drops.
 
[quote name='Roufuss']Retail stores will want to get that stock gone ASAP the closer we get to Xbox 360... we'll see price drops.[/QUOTE]

As if they have new consoles to sell anyway? The xbox and such will sell fine regardless of whether they do a price drop or not - which is why I'm leaning towards a no. And if it does happen - i can't see it being below 130 new.
 
I thought they weren't stopping production untill late summer on the current gen xbox..I swear I just read that the other day on gamespot...Something like the current graphic chips for the xbox will be made untill mid to late july...

as for what I will be willing to pay...For the xbox 360, I won't spend over $360...I am hoping that is the launch price...I think the ps3 will go for as much as $500, I may or may not pick this up at that price..I wouldn't have a problem with $400...The revolution, $200..they really didn't show much that interested me..I do like the back catalog..I didn't get into smash brothers, but online, I may have to try it out..

Games will most likely be between $50 and $70...Some I will get at launch, and some I will use this site to pick up down the road...Didn't nintendo say something about games going to $60, for collectors edition.
 
I always found it interesting that the American mentality in games is that $50 is the max someone will pay. Games that get released in Japan are upwards of $60 and more (I believe DQ8 was around $70 when it came out?).

Personally, I wouldn't pay more than $50 for a game either. As for a system, I could see myself spending $400 on it. But the whole idea, I guess, is that it's no longer "just a game system" 'cause if that were the case, $250 max. These things are powerhouses that do so much other stuff (media centers, I think they are calling them)... that I, frankly, don't really need.

I'd prefer a cheaper, game-console only version please. Never gonna happen, but I'm just sayin'.
 
xbox-360 i would pay as much as 500 and for ps3 the most i would pay is about 700 but since in gamestop it says that it might cost less than 500 i don't worry to much. revolution i would pay 300 but i hope its less for all 3 of them because i'm getting all 3 of them.
 
1. i would pay 150 for all next gen systems if i were to get any of them so i guess i'll wait till after 3 or 4 years after launch to get one.
2. since i'm a true CAG i would only buy games that are 19.99 or less, like what i'm doing now.

overall reason is that i bought the xbox at launch for $500 back in 2001 (bundle from amazon.com) and have close to 100 games and over 70 i have not spend much time on. having a new system coming out so quickly, i have no time to finish what i currently have therefore i can wait 3 to 4 years for me to finish what i currently have.
 
I will pay $299 for the Xbox 360 if it is as powerful and as great graphics that they are saying. Also the games will have to be AAA titles.

I would not be suprised if they launch at $399. Sega had done this in the past and $399 today is not as much money as $399 in 1995. Also MS has no competition this Christmas.
 
[quote name='SkyGheNe']Ooooooo someone is so richy richy.[/QUOTE]

Before you get annoyed at someone like that, please realize that most people in this thread still live at home with mommy and daddy and can save up their fast food paychecks to afford $500 game consoles. They don't have to deal with things like rent or car payments or credit card bills. So while they may get the console before you at least you don't have a bedtime.
 
[quote name='mmn']Before you get annoyed at someone like that, please realize that most people in this thread still live at home with mommy and daddy and can save up their fast food paychecks to afford $500 game consoles. They don't have to deal with things like rent or car payments or credit card bills. So while they may get the console before you at least you don't have a bedtime.[/QUOTE]

Good point. I would lime your comments with the colors that only truth can unviel!...if I could find the damn color palette on the site.
 
If you look at how much people are willing to pay for a PS2, Xbox, or DS last Xmas than you can see there are people willing to overpay for a system.
 
[quote name='Zero3']I always found it interesting that the American mentality in games is that $50 is the max someone will pay. Games that get released in Japan are upwards of $60 and more (I believe DQ8 was around $70 when it came out?).[/QUOTE]

games in japan usually have extras that we'll never see or even imagine having here with our 60$ LE games.

and the xbox will go below $150 for sure, i swear they use to sell the xbox for $130 new for a limited time, and $60 for next gen games is just crazy, they better have bonuses in every game. Also ebgames always takes preorders on anything and everything then estimate prices.
 
[quote name='62t']If you look at how much people are willing to pay for a PS2, Xbox, or DS last Xmas than you can see there are people willing to overpay for a system.[/QUOTE]

And that's the thing - I just want a console. Not a DVD player, not a boombox, not some moddable system that can emulate the systems I already have. I want a console which will play games - simple as that.

Who the hell buys a new entertainment center every 4 years.

Pft, maybe the systems would be in my price range if they didn't add on all the bull.
 
mmn Quote:
Originally Posted by SkyGheNe
Ooooooo someone is so richy richy.


mmn Quote:

Before you get annoyed at someone like that, please realize that most people in this thread still live at home with mommy and daddy and can save up their fast food paychecks to afford $500 game consoles. They don't have to deal with things like rent or car payments or credit card bills. So while they may get the console before you at least you don't have a bedtime.




That has to be a stupid ass comment...the avg parents aren't dropping $500 on their kids for xmass on 1 item ( Yes a fair amount will, but it is nowhere near the avg).

Their are a fair amount of people of the age of 18 ++ on this website...and some can afford it...I have all those items you listed to pay and then some...some people will want to spend the money, some won't be willing to part with that much, and some wish they had the funds available...
 
[quote name='62t']If you look at how much people are willing to pay for a PS2, Xbox, or DS last Xmas than you can see there are people willing to overpay for a system.[/QUOTE]

And that's the thing - I just want a console. Not a DVD player, not a boombox, not some moddable system that can emulate the systems I already have. I want a console which will play games - simple as that.

Who the hell buys a new entertainment center every 4 years.

Pft, maybe the systems would be in my price range if they didn't add on all the bull.
 
[quote name='ryanbph']mmn Quote:
Originally Posted by SkyGheNe
Ooooooo someone is so richy richy.



Before you get annoyed at someone like that, please realize that most people in this thread still live at home with mommy and daddy and can save up their fast food paychecks to afford $500 game consoles. They don't have to deal with things like rent or car payments or credit card bills. So while they may get the console before you at least you don't have a bedtime.


That has to be a stupid ass comment...the avg parents aren't dropping $500 on their kids for xmass on 1 item ( Yes a fair amount will, but it is nowhere near the avg).

Their are a fair amount of people of the age of 18 ++ on this website...and some can afford it...I have all those items you listed to pay and then some...some people will want to spend the money, some won't be willing to part with that much, and some wish they had the funds available...[/QUOTE]

I don't think he was referring to people who have parents that dish out the cash for a new console: mostly to the people who don't have other things that soak up the little they get out of their paychecks. He was referring to the fact that as you grow up, you have student loans, family, a job, gas, insurance, and plenty of other things to be spending money on - and asking 500 dollars to play a fucking game is a bit much - especially when you have to put a bit of your paycheck on the side for utilities.

As for myself - I am 19 and already know I won't be able to afford it and to a degree, refuse to spend such an exhorbitant amount of cash on a console with extra features I won't use.

In regards to how many people are actually 18+...you'd be surprised. A good portion of Penny-Arcade are 16 and under and they sure as hell don't sound like it.
 
as much as i'm impressed by all 3 systems and what they have to offer, i'm just going to sit back, relax and wait and see as time gets closer, to see what they all have to offer for me. i agree with some of the previous posters, that all I want is a gaming console, not an all-in-one-i-can-cook-too system. i'm fine with extra dvd playback, but i'm just going to play games on my system. along with everyone else... i'd just max at $200 bucks for any system out there, since it's a new generation and technology gets ever increasingly expensive as you put more in it.

i figured before all the articles that ps3 was going to come out at least at $500 b/c of the graphics card report i read, xbox would float around $300-400 and revolution about $200, since somehow nintendo manages to keep their prices low for some ungodly unexplainable reason.

games, i think i read an article a few months ago on IGN, when they had the GDC (game developers conference) and they did say that in the next gen, most games will be about $60 because the $50 ceiling that was originally implemented had been there for almost the past 20 years, and that because of the costs of development it is time they raised the ceiling, so games will probably be around $60 now.

but of course, being a CAG as much as i can, if i HAVE to have it, i'll pay $60, no more, but even with ants in my pants sometimes with buying games i'll have to learn to resist and wait.
 
$360 for XBox 360 if it lives up to all the hype. Otherwise? $200.
$100-$150 for PS3.
$100-$150 for Revolution.

Hell, if they try ganking $60+ per game for the next generation, I'll just say to hell with consoles and go back to the nirvana of PC Gaming exclusively. A PC game worth $70 is RARE, a console game worth $50 is even rarer, much less a $70 one.
 
[quote name='jw1976']as much as i'm impressed by all 3 systems and what they have to offer, i'm just going to sit back, relax and wait and see as time gets closer, to see what they all have to offer for me. i agree with some of the previous posters, that all I want is a gaming console, not an all-in-one-i-can-cook-too system. i'm fine with extra dvd playback, but i'm just going to play games on my system. along with everyone else... i'd just max at $200 bucks for any system out there, since it's a new generation and technology gets ever increasingly expensive as you put more in it.

i figured before all the articles that ps3 was going to come out at least at $500 b/c of the graphics card report i read, xbox would float around $300-400 and revolution about $200, since somehow nintendo manages to keep their prices low for some ungodly unexplainable reason.

games, i think i read an article a few months ago on IGN, when they had the GDC (game developers conference) and they did say that in the next gen, most games will be about $60 because the $50 ceiling that was originally implemented had been there for almost the past 20 years, and that because of the costs of development it is time they raised the ceiling, so games will probably be around $60 now.

but of course, being a CAG as much as i can, if i HAVE to have it, i'll pay $60, no more, but even with ants in my pants sometimes with buying games i'll have to learn to resist and wait.[/QUOTE]

Not to mention if you buy them when they first come out - god knows microsoft and sony are going to have problems.
 
Japanese press is saying $500 range for PS3.

You've got to pay if you want to play... :)



[quote name='MarkMark']With this years consoles things started ut as $250 - $300 for an xbox or ps2 and $150-$200 for a gamecube

there are rumors that because of all the power behind xbox360 an ps3, they may cost up to $400! Nintendo revolution is rumored to go for a $250 mark

anyway here are my 2 questions

1- what is the max you would pay for your next gen system? (only for the system Not including games)

2- would you pay more than $50 for a new game (keep in mind game designers have tried pushing some real crap over for $50 ex: PN13, Charlies Angels, Drake of the 99 Dragons, Goldeneye rouge agent, Rouge Squadren 3, state of emergency etc)


my answers are
1- $200 for nintendo revolution maybe $250 if release titles are good
2- only a true masterpiece so far only legend of zelda TP shows promise of being that[/QUOTE]
 
[quote name='SkyGheNe']And that's the thing - I just want a console. Not a DVD player, not a boombox, not some moddable system that can emulate the systems I already have. I want a console which will play games - simple as that.

Who the hell buys a new entertainment center every 4 years.

Pft, maybe the systems would be in my price range if they didn't add on all the bull.[/QUOTE]

The DVD playback function is one of the selling point for PS2. Many people passed on Dreamcast becasue of it. That that time the DVD player still cost a lot, which makes the PS2 seems like a great deal. The problem with Xbox is that DVD players are a lot cheaper by the time the Xbox is out.
 
It was a selling point for sure... but man, the quality of the DVD playback is horrid on a PS2.



[quote name='62t']The DVD playback function is one of the selling point for PS2. Many people passed on Dreamcast becasue of it. That that time the DVD player still cost a lot, which makes the PS2 seems like a great deal. The problem with Xbox is that DVD players are a lot cheaper by the time the Xbox is out.[/QUOTE]
 
[quote name='soulwish2003']It was a selling point for sure... but man, the quality of the DVD playback is horrid on a PS2.[/QUOTE]

Maybe on older models, but the slim PS2s play DVDs great in progressive scan mode.
 
Every game system I have come to own within a few months of initial relase has been given to me as a Christmas or birthday gift from my parents. That's the only way I will be getting a PS3 or XBOX 360. I'm in college for at least another 2 years and really don't have hundreds of dollars laying around to spend on a $400 system or $60-70 games. I would probably be willing to spend $200 on the Revolution since it appears that it will be a true gaming system and not some trying-too-hard-to-be-hip multimedia box. Hopefully Revolution games will not be so expensive.

I don't see how Microsoft/Sony expect the 18-24 yr. old demographic to be able to afford higher priced systems and games.
 
wow im gone one day and i get 88replies! to those that felt i was calling all the games mentoined crap i meant that they were nowhere close to being worth what they first sold for i kno PN13 isnt crap but its not worth more den 15bucks
also to those that suspect a game crash might not be too far off from right.... see my newer thread History Repeats Itself
 
[quote name='soulwish2003']It was a selling point for sure... but man, the quality of the DVD playback is horrid on a PS2.[/QUOTE]

It also decreases the life-span of the Ps2.
 
[quote name='chickenhawk']$200 is my limit for any console. I will likely buy the PS3 at around $200, the Revolution at around $150 (assuming it follows a similar path as the GC) and $100-$150 for the 360. If games for the 360 wow me though the 360 could swap places with the PS3. That's pretty much what I have done this generation. I don't have an Xbox yet though - waiting for that $100 price point.[/QUOTE]

Well, you'll be waiting forever. Once the last of the Xboxes are sold, they're done for good - nVidia stopped making the GPUs last month, IIRC.
 
i may go as high as $400

The only way I would go $70 for a game is if there was homebrew dl content: imagine buying a FPS, finishing the single player game, and then going online and downloading a new campaign with different enemies, levels, and possibly weapons

---then continuously repeat until you get bored weeks later
 
[quote name='SkyGheNe']It also decreases the life-span of the Ps2.[/QUOTE]

statistics please? ive used my ps2 as my main dvd player and havent had any problems (except the blue disc dre's, but that has to do with reading cds, i doubt its related)
 
[quote name='punqsux']statistics please? ive used my ps2 as my main dvd player and havent had any problems (except the blue disc dre's, but that has to do with reading cds, i doubt its related)[/QUOTE]

Maybe I'm mistaken. I remember discussing it with a gamestop employee and him bringing that up as a cause of the short life span. Anyone know anything about a correlation between the two?
 
Won't pay more than 300 for the 360. If that means waiting for a price drop, so be it. It won't take long, especially with Sony and Nintendo's systems coming down the pipe shortly after.

If a unified next-gen DVD format is agreed upon, I'd consider buying a PS3 for $350, which would also likely require a price drop. However, if we're in for a format war between HD-DVD and Blu-Ray, I'm staying away from the PS3 until a clear winner starts to emerge. I have no desire to risk owning the "Beta" of the next video format, especially at that price, and especially when I'd already have the 360.
 
[quote name='felixlighter']From everything I've heard, the PS3 will be closer to $500 and I never really considered the idea of buying a console for that price. But after comparing it to some other purchases I've made, for instance a recliner for $500, I find myself considering the value I get out of that $500. I have paid much more for things I would be using much less. And that damn PS3 looks sooo good.... I would wait for the first price drop personally, but I don't see it dropping below $300 until much later in its life cycle. The XBox 360 on the other hand, In my opinion will follow the same pricing paths of previous generation consoles; $300 - 250 then $200 then $150 and finally $100.[/QUOTE]


You know, I've had it in mind to have some sort of cap for myself, like $300 or $400 - but that is mostly because I've just newly re-entered console gaming since my Colecovision days and got a Gamecube for $100 and a PS2 for $150 (most expensive 'console' I've bought so far is the PSP!). But what you say here, felixlighter, makes a lot of sense. I'm looking at dropping $1200 for the wooden outdoor playset at Costco (and that is a great deal if you research these things), and things like furniture cost $300-$2000 a piece. Me and my family will certainly get $500 worth of entertainment out of the PS3 (or $300 worth out of the Revolution - screw the FPSbox), especially when compared to those other items. And that is at least on par (if not cheaper) than the price (in today's $) my father paid for my Atari back in the Stone Age.. Anyway, I'd *definitely* rather sit on our semi-worn couch and play the new systems than drop $1500 on a new furniture set (my wife, on the other hand...).

However, what might hold me back is the list of launch titles for the PS3. I need to resist spending the $500 right away if there isn't anything great coming out (none of the ones mentioned so far interest me at all). $500 is one thing, but add in a few launch games at $60 and you are talking real money :D, especially if they aren't great games (I'm still waiting for a potentially great next-gen RPG to be announced). Of course, I would hope I could get them via Gamerush for much cheaper - if that is the case (as it has been with the PSP) I might bite on the PS3 at launch anyway.
 
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