40GB PS3 and DS3 Japanese launch numbers on day 1

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Japan: Verhaltene Nachfrage nach 40GB-PS3 und Dual Shock 3
12.11.07 - Die PS3 mit 40GB Festplatte und das Dual Shock 3-Joypad sind seit dem 11.11.07 in Japan erhältlich. Nach ersten Berichten der Nihon Keizai Shimbun ist die Nachfrage bei beiden Artikeln bislang recht zurückhaltend.

So bildeten sich keine Warteschlangen vor den Geschäften, während sowohl PS3 als auch Dual Shock 3 überall in ausreichender Menge zu haben sind. Gerade das Dual Shock 3-Pad ist problemlos zu bekommen und kann von Kunden auch in größeren Mengen gekauft werden.

Unbestätigten Angaben des Großhandels zufolge konnten 36.000 PS3 am ersten Tag verkauft werden; 31.000 weiße und 5.000 schwarze. Vom Dual Shock 3 sollen ca. 70.000 bis 100.000 Einheiten abgesetzt worden sein. Offizielle Zahlen werden gegen Ende der Woche erwartet.
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I got this from PSU.

Basically, 36k 40GB PS3 consoles were sold in Japan on day 1. 31k of those were the white ones. Between 70k-100k DS3 controllers were sold. From what I heard from Japan, most of them were black, due to people already having a PS3.
 
I'm not surprised that there weren't that many sold. There aren't many must buy games out right now. But I'd be more than shocked if by Q2 2008 PS3 is behind Xbox360.
 
[quote name='near']I'm not surprised that there weren't that many sold. There aren't many must buy games out right now. But I'd be more than shocked if by Q2 2008 PS3 is behind Xbox360.[/QUOTE]That will never happen. The number of Japanese games coming to 360 (that the Japanese audience may want) is next to nothing after Lost Odyssey, while PS3 will have Naruto (by CC2), FFXIII, FF Versus XIII, Yakuza 3, White Knight Story, RE5 (PS3 exclusive to Japan), GT5, MGS4, etc.

Also, the number is quite good because that gives PS3 a boost. That doesn't even include the sales of the 60/20GB in Japan that week. And has 360 ever done that well in Japan since launch........no.
 
not too bad... that means that they should do well for the week and the month.. might outsell the Wii for the month.
 
hmm...31k in a day. That's kind of what Wii has been doing for a while now. So... it's POSSIBLE the PS3 could outsell the Wii this month IN JAPAN, but it's up in the air.

As for next month, forget about it. Wii wins Japan next month with Wii Fit.
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']That will never happen. The number of Japanese games coming to 360 (that the Japanese audience may want) is next to nothing after Lost Odyssey, while PS3 will have Naruto (by CC2), FFXIII, FF Versus XIII, Yakuza 3, White Knight Story, RE5 (PS3 exclusive to Japan), GT5, MGS4, etc.

Also, the number is quite good because that gives PS3 a boost. That doesn't even include the sales of the 60/20GB in Japan that week. And has 360 ever done that well in Japan since launch........no.[/quote]

I agree. But sadly FFXIII/Versus XIII are really doubtful for a 2008 release. If we lucky we'll see it late 2009, same with RE5. But on the other hand, games such as Disgaea 3, Tekken 6, Street Fighter IV, and even Valkyrie of the battlefield will most certainly turn the attention to the PS3.
 
[quote name='Thomas96']not too bad... that means that they should do well for the week and the month.. might outsell the Wii for the month.[/quote]
Sony is doing well as any console usually does when they lower their price and congrats to them for that but outsell the Wii? IMO, the only way they can do that is if A) they buy out SquareEnix so that if you wanna play any Dragon Quest games, you have to have a PS3; Dragon Quest is like crack in Japan or B) lower their price EVEN MORE to match the Wii, which if they did, would make Sony lose way too much money no matter how many PS3s they sold. In other words, the PS3 outsell the Wii? I just don't see how it's possible.
 
[quote name='near']I agree. But sadly FFXIII/Versus XIII are really doubtful for a 2008 release. If we lucky we'll see it late 2009, same with RE5. But on the other hand, games such as Disgaea 3, Tekken 6, Street Fighter IV, and even Valkyrie of the battlefield will most certainly turn the attention to the PS3.[/QUOTE]I think FFXIII will come out at the end, but Versus XIII will be 09 (With many Square Enix games, they tend to start out with a low percentage complete for a while, but then ramp up quite a bit once other games are released. Since Crisis Core and It's a Wonderful World, etc. is done within the 1st production team, I expect more resources to be poured into finishing FFXIII, instead of taking it slow).

But yeah, those games will certainly help too. And if SCEI releases sequels to some of their published games that can pull decent numbers in 08 (like a Wild Arms, although doubtful one will come in 08), they'll be fine. I highly doubt they'll ever beat the Wii, but I think PS3 will be a good 2nd. My prediction is 5 million PS3 consoles by the end of the generation. My prediction has been 1.5 million PS3 consoles by the end of the year in Japan for a while.
 
you know.. the ps3 is going to do well, but its wayyyyy off people's radar. I was at walmart and this lady was buying the PS2 singstar pack. She didn't even look at the PS3. If I was Sony I'd push that PS2 as long as possible.
 
They are doing just that, they recently released or announced a new PS2 model.

I think when LittleBigPlanet hits in 2008 we'll get a lot of new PS3 owners.
 
PS3? More like PStripple, am i right? or the PStres!

I'm glad its numbers went up. I'm hoping Sony gets back ontop of things, at least the 360 in japan. It'll never, ever outdo the Wii though. Cause of Galaxy and Smash.
 
so does this necessarily confirm Sony's market research on people not wanting or caring about backwards compatability? Or do people just really love that price point? I've seen more than a few people here who have called Sony retarded for taking that feature out and probably would not buy it, even at the new price, but that doesn't seem to be the case over in Japan (for now).
 
[quote name='imascrub']so does this necessarily confirm Sony's market research on people not wanting or caring about backwards compatability? Or do people just really love that price point? I've seen more than a few people here who have called Sony retarded for taking that feature out and probably would not buy it, even at the new price, but that doesn't seem to be the case over in Japan (for now).[/QUOTE]Pretty much. I knew removing BC wouldn't hurt PS3, more so help due to a lower price point. I have friends (or people I know) who ended up buying a PS3, 360, and so on. Many of them previously owned an Xbox and/or PS2, but as soon as they bought a PS3/360, they either sold all their old games or no longer care about them. They buy new game consoles to play new games because they are already tired of the original stuff. That's how most casuals are. The hardcore (such as people who post here) may think differently though.
 
You'll see online a lot of people calling Sony names for removing BC. But if it was that important, why didn't lack of BC early on hinder the Xbox 360?

People will cry and whine, especially the online crowd who can type faster than they can think, but at the end of the day the biggest problem with the PS3 was its price, and that issue has been dealt with.

Most consumers won't use or bother to check for BC, it'll all come down to price and what games they want on the system.

And for those of us who want it? It'll be there in the costlier 60gb or 80gb version. However, keep in mind those of us who would be turned off by this are likely hardcore, or old time gamers, we're a small minority compared to the larger number of more casual gamers who don't care about BC, they just want to play next gen games.
 
[quote name='Vanigan']You'll see online a lot of people calling Sony names for removing BC. But if it was that important, why didn't lack of BC early on hinder the Xbox 360?[/quote] The Xbox wasn't out as long and didn't sell as well as the PS2 (24M sold over 4 years vs. 120M over 6), there was more of an impetus to keep the old system (XBMP) for those who did have it, and a larger percentage of the buyers didn't have the previous system vs. everybody and their mom had a PS1/PS2. Plus, Sony's rallying cry from the day the PS2 was announced has always been as close to 100% backwards compatibility as possible. That's a small part of what made the PS2 so successful. Thus, taking out something that they had already given was seen as a more serious transgression than MS never offering it in the first place.

Most people (I'd say 80% or more) won't care that there's zero PS2 compatibility in the 40GB. I do, so I bought a clearanced 60GB, as I imagine most of the people who BC does matter to have done. The rest will get the 80GB and hope for the best.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']you 'tarded, boy?[/QUOTE]


I hope not.. if iPS3 outsales Wii in japan for the month of November then you have to suck my balls... Balls so dry!
 
That's funny, because I don't see people giving MS as big a stink about the hardware failure issues as they give Sony with BC, or any little perceived insult against the consumer. The biggest transgression here is not fulfulling the most basic consumer promise of delivering a solid product. This is why I think it's silly that people make such a big fuss over things like this.

And in all honesty, the PS3 did launch with full backwards compatability, and look where it got them. They did deliver on that promise of backwards compatability, and in order to put it in, they had to launch with a higher price and people just didn't buy.

So, they can either do the smart thing and cut it to help lower the price, thus gaining market share so they could get some much needed current generation games, or keep it, and keep the PS3 at least $50 more expensive.
 
[quote name='Vanigan']You'll see online a lot of people calling Sony names for removing BC. But if it was that important, why didn't lack of BC early on hinder the Xbox 360?

People will cry and whine, especially the online crowd who can type faster than they can think, but at the end of the day the biggest problem with the PS3 was its price, and that issue has been dealt with.

Most consumers won't use or bother to check for BC, it'll all come down to price and what games they want on the system.

And for those of us who want it? It'll be there in the costlier 60gb or 80gb version. However, keep in mind those of us who would be turned off by this are likely hardcore, or old time gamers, we're a small minority compared to the larger number of more casual gamers who don't care about BC, they just want to play next gen games.[/QUOTE]

The price drop is just making the PS3 the proper price it should have been at launch .
 
[quote name='Vanigan']That's funny, because I don't see people giving MS as big a stink about the hardware failure issues[/QUOTE]

I remain unconvinced that any 360 in stores right now, irrespective of chip size, heatsinks, or whatever, are any more reliable than the originals. Moreover, we'll see how foolish (or forgiving, if that's your bag) 360 users are beginning a year from now when the 3-year protection from RROD begins to expire for users, and those who suffer from an RROD are told to pay for repairs.

But that's neither here nor there. People seem to be able to want to have their cake and eat it with the PS3, at the same time that many decry that they don't even want one. But, bar none, it will be cheaper, eventually. If it's too much to pay now, just wait - but to act as if it has no games, has no forthcoming games, and will never be worth owning is just a post-hoc bit of self-comfort that it's ok not to own a PS3. Which it is ok to not own one - at the same time that braying about it having nothing to play is absurd.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']People seem to be able to want to have their cake and eat it with the PS3, at the same time that many decry that they don't even want one. But, bar none, it will be cheaper, eventually. If it's too much to pay now, just wait - but to act as if it has no games, has no forthcoming games, and will never be worth owning is just a post-hoc bit of self-comfort that it's ok not to own a PS3. Which it is ok to not own one - at the same time that braying about it having nothing to play is absurd.[/QUOTE]

Your boy H.Cornerstone bought a 360 and he says there's nothing on it that he wants to play .
He said he bought Madden and Lego Star Wars and barely plays it , I find that unacceptably absurd .

Like his taste in games is the 360's fault .

There are far more games to chose from on the 360 . Why are you unwilling to accept that excuse when it's the PS3 ?
 
You may want to use his words against him, and not me, k? Because I don't believe it in reference to any console, truth be told. If you say "I have system X, so I won't buy system Y or Z because I don't want/need them all" that's fine. But when you turn it into "it has no games that interest me," then, IMO, you're trying way too hard to convince yourself and that, when it clearly isn't true.

If there is a double standard, it would be that far, far, far more people play the "PS3 has no games" card (and the "Wii has nothing but minigames, amirite?" card as well)...very few people I've ever seen post here dare to make that claim about the 360. I've said it's FPS-heavy, but that's as far as I'll go.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']You may want to use his words against him, and not me, k? Because I don't believe it in reference to any console, truth be told. If you say "I have system X, so I won't buy system Y or Z because I don't want/need them all" that's fine. But when you turn it into "it has no games that interest me," then, IMO, you're trying way too hard to convince yourself and that, when it clearly isn't true.

If there is a double standard, it would be that far, far, far more people play the "PS3 has no games" card (and the "Wii has nothing but minigames, amirite?" card as well)...very few people I've ever seen post here dare to make that claim about the 360. I've said it's FPS-heavy, but that's as far as I'll go.[/QUOTE]

I wasn't trying to do that to you, it's just that he's guilty of it too . You just seemed intolerant of that frame of mind . I was pointing it out that it happens both ways [with an example] .

Did you end up getting a GH3 Sex Pistol faceplate ?
 
Not intolerant, but I just think that far many people say it (about any console), and far too few people call those folks out on their shit. There are a handful of consoles I'd agree on the "no games worth playing" list (e.g., 3D0, Jaguar, N-Gage, Virtual Boy)...but even then it's a tenuous claim at best, that only stands up because of the lack of people who would disagree with me.

I'm taken care of, thanks for checking.
 
[quote name='Richlough']Your boy H.Cornerstone bought a 360 and he says there's nothing on it that he wants to play .
He said he bought Madden and Lego Star Wars and barely plays it , I find that unacceptably absurd .

Like his taste in games is the 360's fault .

There are far more games to chose from on the 360 . Why are you unwilling to accept that excuse when it's the PS3 ?[/QUOTE]

There ain't that much exclusive to the console that is off the hook. Gears is still the only exclusive title that has been worth a fuck. People love to ride that Circle's jock real hard, but I stick by my assertion that Gears is basically the only difference between the two consoles up to this point (anyone who points out Halo needs to get slapped hard because the online for that game is AIDS and the SP ain't all that great either, hype built the reputation and legacy of that series).
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']There ain't that much exclusive to the console that is off the hook. Gears is still the only exclusive title that has been worth a fuck. People love to ride that Circle's jock real hard, but I stick by my assertion that Gears is basically the only difference between the two consoles up to this point (anyone who points out Halo needs to get slapped hard because the online for that game is AIDS and the SP ain't all that great either, hype built the reputation and legacy of that series).[/QUOTE]

I'm not going to argue with a mod .:whistle2:#
 
[quote name='near']I'm not surprised that there weren't that many sold. There aren't many must buy games out right now. But I'd be more than shocked if by Q2 2008 PS3 is behind Xbox360.[/QUOTE]

:lol: Not in a million years.

You realize just to catch the 360 by June they would have to push over 800,000 PS3s a month to close that 5 million gap. That also doesn't factor in any 360 sales in the next 7 months.

PS3 may catch up, but it won't be by June. They have a long uphill battle.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']There ain't that much exclusive to the console that is off the hook. Gears is still the only exclusive title that has been worth a fuck. People love to ride that Circle's jock real hard, but I stick by my assertion that Gears is basically the only difference between the two consoles up to this point (anyone who points out Halo needs to get slapped hard because the online for that game is AIDS and the SP ain't all that great either, hype built the reputation and legacy of that series).[/QUOTE]

rotfl Funniest post of the day. Yeah, 6 million* people suffer from collective delusion.

[quote name='near']I'm not surprised that there weren't that many sold. There aren't many must buy games out right now. But I'd be more than shocked if by Q2 2008 PS3 is behind Xbox360.[/QUOTE]

:lol: Not in a million years.

You realize just to catch the 360 by June they would have to push over 800,000 PS3s a month to close that 5 million gap. That also doesn't factor in any 360 sales in the next 7 months.

PS3 may catch up, but it won't be by June. They have a long uphill battle.

*Halo 2's numbers
 
[quote name='Vanigan']That's funny, because I don't see people giving MS as big a stink about the hardware failure issues as they give Sony with BC, or any little perceived insult against the consumer. The biggest transgression here is not fulfulling the most basic consumer promise of delivering a solid product. This is why I think it's silly that people make such a big fuss over things like this.

And in all honesty, the PS3 did launch with full backwards compatability, and look where it got them. They did deliver on that promise of backwards compatability, and in order to put it in, they had to launch with a higher price and people just didn't buy.[/QUOTE]

They get shit because they painted themselves into a corner the day they started mocking MS for having limited backwards compatibility with the 360. And I'm not talking about the loyalists. Eye for an eye if you catch my drift.

MS fans have taken it for too long over back compat, charging for live, multiple skus, the RROD, etc. and they take it on the chin. One or two issues pop up on the PS3 and MS fans return the favor and Sony fans can't handle it. All of a sudden it's the end of the world if something remotely negative is said about the precious PS3. Quite comical.
 
[quote name='Nephlabobo']Can't say I'm surprised people bought the black one.

Didn't I say the white one was fugly?[/quote]

aha! But most of the ps3 system sales (almost 90% of them) were white over black. I think maybe it has more to do because most of the people who bought new controllers wanted to keep the consistent black look since they already have a black system.

Still I guess I'd have to see the white in person to be able to make a proper judgement. At the moment though i think white still looks pretty slick. Personally I wouldn't mind a white system but I don't wanna spend for that lol. Maybe when the new slim ps2's are out I'll think about picking one up.
 
[quote name='Richlough']Your boy H.Cornerstone bought a 360 and he says there's nothing on it that he wants to play .
He said he bought Madden and Lego Star Wars and barely plays it , I find that unacceptably absurd .

Like his taste in games is the 360's fault .

There are far more games to chose from on the 360 . Why are you unwilling to accept that excuse when it's the PS3 ?[/quote]
Or maybe I have a limited budget and didn't think of the need to buy a 40-60$ game that was 6 months old? Especially with games I was excited for in Warhawk and Ratchet and Clank coming out. And what do you want to me do? Magically like Shooters? Because that's all there is on the system besides Dead Rising, Crackdown and Viva Pinata, and at the time I bought the system dead rising was 30, Crackdown was 60, and viva pinata was 20-30. I would have liked Lost Planet, but then again, it was 40$ and I am not going to pay 40$ for a 8 month old game. And I don't recall saying that it was the 360's fault. My only point was people claim that the PS3 has no games, and to me, 360 has very little. It's all depends on taste. And I never said the 360 had no games, I just said it had no games I LIKED. If other people don't like Motorstorm, Super Stardust HD, Ratchet and Clank, Warhawk, Havenly Sword, or Resistance, thats fine, thats their right and their opinion, but to say it blantaly has NO games is the problem in my mind.

And that reminds me, I need to finish Lego Star Wars II....

And I believe I said I wanted Rainbow Six Vegas but didn't want to spend 40 becuase I knew Call of Duty 4 and Halo 3 were coming out and the on-line would die.

And I guess it's unacceptably absurd I like Action/Adventure and Action RPG games. :roll:

And Casey, I played gears of war at my friends house, and I wasn't that impressed. The only fun thing to me was Chainsawing people. And Casey, I agree with you, Halo is the most overrated game of all time.
 
[quote name='H.Cornerstone'] And I don't recall saying that it was the 360's fault. My only point was people claim that the PS3 has no games, and to me, 360 has very little.
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I was more or less , using what you said as an example of the attitude that Myke refuses to accept when it comes to the PS3 , but with the 360 .

[quote name='H.Cornerstone'] And I guess it's unacceptably absurd I like Action/Adventure and Action RPG games. :roll:[/quote]

You didn't seem to try very hard to like anything based on the choices you made . Maybe you were not in the loop as far as 360 games go .

If you want your 360 to be your red headed stepchild it's your loss .

I know if I bought a PS3 I wouldn't abandon it . That would be an expensive paper weight .

[quote name='H.Cornerstone'] And Casey, I agree with you, Halo is the most overrated game of all time.[/QUOTE]

I think any thing with Final Fantasy __[insert number here] is .
 
WTF! Why does every thread in the PS3 forum about something going well for Sony or the PS3 have to turn into a console war thread. Both systems have their postives and negatives. Enough of this SDF crap, there is like only two members, a lot of the PS3 supporters here are actually not delusional and sees the faults of Sony.

One of the reasons I like it here is because there is a wide range of people, and hope to get interaction from people who aren't fanboys. As much as I like this say this only applies to xbox owners, it also applies to PS3 owners too, as I was called a troll on the offical forums. Can't we just shut up and enjoy the damn games. If you're really into fps, get a 360, if you like more action-adventure games and rpgs, get a PS3, and if you got the money, get both.

Most games will be overhyped, overrated, only time will tell. Both Sony and MS got some really overhyped games this year, like Heavenly Sword and Bioshock, even Assassin's Creed which has been hyped up for like two years now. As far as I know all of these are single player games that can be finish in 5-10 hours and have probably gotten the most hype this year.
 
[quote name='Thongsy']WTF! Why does every thread in the PS3 forum about something going well for Sony or the PS3 have to turn into a console war thread. Both systems have their postives and negatives. Enough of this SDF crap, there is like only two members, a lot of the PS3 supporters here are actually not delusional and sees the faults of Sony.

One of the reasons I like it here is because there is a wide range of people, and hope to get interaction from people who aren't fanboys. As much as I like this say this only applies to xbox owners, it also applies to PS3 owners too, as I was called a troll on the offical forums. Can't we just shut up and enjoy the damn games. If you're really into fps, get a 360, if you like more action-adventure games and rpgs, get a PS3, and if you got the money, get both.

Most games will be overhyped, overrated, only time will tell. Both Sony and MS got some really overhyped games this year, like Heavenly Sword and Bioshock, even Assassin's Creed which has been hyped up for like two years now. As far as I know all of these are single player games that can be finish in 5-10 hours and have probably gotten the most hype this year.[/QUOTE]
You're wasting your breath, man. Fanboyism is an incurable disease.
 
On the other hand, you get people coming here that try to read way too much into statements, just so they can start calling other people fanboys in an attempt to stir up trouble.

It's another way for them to avoid the argument by resorting to personal attacks instead of addressing the argument.

I'm saddened by the fact that while they still teach this kind of logical fallacy in schools, a lot of people obviously didn't pay attention. I'm also more saddened that people jump in on the name calling, rather than actually chiming in with better counter arguments.

Then there's those who have good counter-arguments, but belittle their own arguments by more name calling, reducing their post to junk. And by the same token, there's been good posts that have been reduced to junk because people read too much into it.

It's time to grow up people, on both sides. All of you people crying fanboy this and SDF that need to realize you're negating your own credibility. Meanwhile, a little more thought should be put into some posts on the Sony supporting side, as to the past mistakes that Sony has made.
 
[quote name='H.Cornerstone']My only point was people claim that the PS3 has no games, and to me, 360 has very little. It's all depends on taste. And I never said the 360 had no games, I just said it had no games I LIKED. If other people don't like Motorstorm, Super Stardust HD, Ratchet and Clank, Warhawk, Havenly Sword, or Resistance, thats fine, thats their right and their opinion, but to say it blantaly has NO games is the problem in my mind.[/quote]I definitely agree there. I happen to like many of the big PS3 games, where there aren't all that many games I like on that other console that's suppose to have so many good games.

And Casey, I played gears of war at my friends house, and I wasn't that impressed. The only fun thing to me was Chainsawing people. And Casey, I agree with you, Halo is the most overrated game of all time.
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I agree.

I personally don't want to turn this into a console argument, but with so many trolls invading any good Sony news thread due to making them feel insecure, we gotta chase them out.
 
[quote name='Corvin']rotfl Funniest post of the day. Yeah, 6 million* people suffer from collective delusion.



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They sure do. I bought into the hype this time and once I got the achievements and got my 40 dollars worth I was done. It certainly isn't the premiere title everyone thought it would be, and if it was a lot of the top Halo people on CAG wouldn't have stopped playing it shortly after release. Almost all the people from CAG I play with put down Halo for COD (hell we even went back to Gears to kill some time before Halo came out).

That being said, hating on Gears of War (cornerstone) makes you need your head examined.
 
How many people do you play with here Casey? I'm guessing around a dozen, so do extrapolate that to six million users is fallable. You need a much larger test group. If you were right, Halo 2 wouldn't have been the most played game on live 3 years after release(until Gears). If it was all about marketing and hype, it would have died a few months down the road. It's a solid franchise, not perfect by any means but to say every player is basically delusional is absurd and only an argument you would find in a PS forum.

[quote name='H.Cornerstone']Or maybe I have a limited budget and didn't think of the need to buy a 40-60$ game that was 6 months old? Especially with games I was excited for in Warhawk and Ratchet and Clank coming out. And what do you want to me do? Magically like Shooters? Because that's all there is on the system besides Dead Rising, Crackdown and Viva Pinata, and at the time I bought the system dead rising was 30, Crackdown was 60, and viva pinata was 20-30. I would have liked Lost Planet, but then again, it was 40$ and I am not going to pay 40$ for a 8 month old game. And I don't recall saying that it was the 360's fault. My only point was people claim that the PS3 has no games, and to me, 360 has very little. It's all depends on taste. And I never said the 360 had no games, I just said it had no games I LIKED. If other people don't like Motorstorm, Super Stardust HD, Ratchet and Clank, Warhawk, Havenly Sword, or Resistance, thats fine, thats their right and their opinion, but to say it blantaly has NO games is the problem in my mind. [/QUOTE]

You defend one blanket statement while posting another. I agree about the PS3 statement, to say it has no games is wrong.

However the 360 is only shooters argument is just flamebait and a false one at that. Forgot which thread it was, but someone here broke down the two libraries and the 360 had fewer shooters than the PS3 by percentage. I think it was 16% of the 360 library vs. 19% of the PS3 library. So if you want to call a spade a spade, the PS3 is clearly only good for shooters since that is almost a fifth of their library. :lol: See how ridiculous that sounds? It's a silly argument that needs to go away, just like the 'PS3 has no games' argument.
 
If there is one "X console has no games" argument that holds true, I'd say it was the lack of RPG/sRPGs on next-gen consoles. There's Blue Dragon (mediocre and gets the job done, like Corn Flakes) and Eternal Sonata...and Oblivion is the only real standout.

If you want RPG fun or sRPG grandiosity (of the "I put 6 million hours into this NIS game!" sort), you need a DS or PSP.

Maybe it's a relative lack (the PS2 by far being the leader), in that last gen, we were overwhelmed with RPGs to the point where (speaking for myself) I became pissed that I couldn't possibly enjoy all these titles. Now, it's famine by comparison.

There's no lack of shooters, there's no lack of sports titles, there's no lack of racing games, no lack of fighters, no lack of platformers, no lack of adventure titles (esp if you own a Wii)...so what games are missing this time around? As far as I can tell, it's RPG/sRPGs.
 
[quote name='Corvin']How many people do you play with here Casey? I'm guessing around a dozen, so do extrapolate that to six million users is fallable. You need a much larger test group. If you were right, Halo 2 wouldn't have been the most played game on live 3 years after release(until Gears). If it was all about marketing and hype, it would have died a few months down the road. It's a solid franchise, not perfect by any means but to say every player is basically delusional is absurd and only an argument you would find in a PS forum.



You defend one blanket statement while posting another. I agree about the PS3 statement, to say it has no games is wrong.

However the 360 is only shooters argument is just flamebait and a false one at that. Forgot which thread it was, but someone here broke down the two libraries and the 360 had fewer shooters than the PS3 by percentage. I think it was 16% of the 360 library vs. 19% of the PS3 library. So if you want to call a spade a spade, the PS3 is clearly only good for shooters since that is almost a fifth of their library. :lol: See how ridiculous that sounds? It's a silly argument that needs to go away, just like the 'PS3 has no games' argument.[/quote]

I gaurentee you if you look at Gamerankings the 7 of the top 10 highest ranked games on the 360 are shooters.

Either way, I got the 360 because I was able to get it for 100$ off, and I wanted to play Call of Duty 4 on-line, which I will do eventually, just can't right now. Plus, both my friends baught one and it's nice to be able to play over the internet with them. The 360 is for Multi-platform games, and the PS3 is for exclusives. I am hoping to get Guitar Hero and Call of Duty 4 for it as soon as I can.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']If there is one "X console has no games" argument that holds true, I'd say it was the lack of RPG/sRPGs on next-gen consoles. There's Blue Dragon (mediocre and gets the job done, like Corn Flakes) and Eternal Sonata...and Oblivion is the only real standout.

If you want RPG fun or sRPG grandiosity (of the "I put 6 million hours into this NIS game!" sort), you need a DS or PSP.

Maybe it's a relative lack (the PS2 by far being the leader), in that last gen, we were overwhelmed with RPGs to the point where (speaking for myself) I became pissed that I couldn't possibly enjoy all these titles. Now, it's famine by comparison.

There's no lack of shooters, there's no lack of sports titles, there's no lack of racing games, no lack of fighters, no lack of platformers, no lack of adventure titles (esp if you own a Wii)...so what games are missing this time around? As far as I can tell, it's RPG/sRPGs.[/QUOTE]
Just wanted to mention Enchanted Arms too, because it is technically an RPG even if it sucks balls.
 
[quote name='H.Cornerstone']I gaurentee you if you look at Gamerankings the 7 of the top 10 highest ranked games on the 360 are shooters.[/quote]
Yeah, it's a shame how the only games available to play on the Xbox 360 are the ones rated in the top ten at Gamerankings.
 
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