802.11N on the way for the 360 - Confirmed.

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Read about this earlier on engadget..

Can't freaking wait. Great news. Ofcourse it will probably be like $100 which is crazy. Atleast it should drop the price of the current g adapter
 
I need to take a course on what the letters mean. Like what's up with B, and G and now N?
I'd imagine "N" is going to just be faster and even maybe a more stable connection?
 
N is the latest spec that was finally approved. It is the fastest connection and provides the best connection distance wise.

b maxes out at 11mbit/s
g maxes out at 54
n maxes out at 300
 
I used the wireless adapter for my 360 for a number of years. Towards the end, the thing started to give me issues. I'd have to unplug and plug the thing back in a couple times a week to get it working again. I finally got an ethernet cable run to my entertainment center. So, I've got it hard wired to my network now.

802.11n is very nice. Will make streaming HD video over your network a lot smoother for those who do it.
 
i just moved and had them set my modem by my tv, direct connection to the modem makes netflix streaming almost perfect. I know this isn't an option for all but man you should try.
 
They should throw the b/g one in with the elite and have this be a stand alone. No reason this should be more than $50 but I am sure they will charge at least $100.

Wired connection is the way to go unless you live in a place that doesn't allow you to make holes in the walls.
 
[quote name='kingbroly']it's supposed to be $100, and the the older model is supposed to be dropped in price.[/quote]
qft
 
I can't seeing this being a huge step in speed, since it's still USB-connected.

The fact that you can run it on 5GHz for 802.11N is a plus, where most people don't have 802.11A gear around to run on 5GHz with the existing A/B/G adapter.
 
Finally, something a little faster than the wired ethernet at 100Mbps for my video streaming. Unfortunately, I'm guessing it'll be overpriced.
 
I wish Microsoft would just start building it into their damn systems already. Anyways, I want two of these new adapters; but I really don't want to shell out another $200, on top of the $200 i already shelled out for G adapters.

I think I may just make one of the 360's offline only, sell both of my G adapters, and buy one N adapter. Cancel one of my Live accounts and buy my wife a Roku player for Netflix. At the end of the day, Microsoft is making way too much money off of Wireless/Live.

If L4D 2 wasn't 360 exclusive, I'd probably just drop Live altogether and just start buying all my online multiplayer games on the PS3...
 
Here I go again with my ignorance :lol:
In order for anyone to use that, their router would have to have an N signal thing too?
 
[quote name='lilboo']Here I go again with my ignorance :lol:
In order for anyone to use that, their router would have to have an N signal thing too?[/QUOTE]

Generally most wifi products are backwards compatible so long as the rating remains in the same frequency spectrum.

I.e., there's two basic bands: A, and then everything else. Everything else means B, G, and N, and are most common in consumer stuff. A generally gets used in business scenarios. Also remember that B < G < N - seems like the further you get in the alphabet, the better the performance.

Anyway, I'd really like to think that this new N adapter would work with B and G networks as well. Obviously, though, you're getting the best usage/speed/range coverage with an N network, which is better suited for things like Netflix video streaming and intense online gaming.

So, in the end:

If you've got a router running B or G, you ought to be able to use this, assuming it is backwards compatible. But we don't really know for sure at this point, so it'll be a while before that question is answered.

Likewise, N routers are becoming cheaper. A few years ago, it was the same with B and G - G was the new kid on the block, gave a wider range, and was faster. It slowly replaced B almost entirely. Now the same is going on with N - it is becoming cheaper and more widely used.

Which is to say, if you were shopping for a new router these days and you did online gaming, you might as well bump up to an N.
 
The good thing about Microsoft's strategy on their external devices is that you can sell your old wireless adapter and install the new one. That and we don't get stuck with an internal HD-DVD drive (although that would have stopped the multi-disk games).

I dunno tho, doesn't that mean that due to limitations with standard NIC cards any PCs on your network that you would want to stream that fast from would need to all be wireless N?
 
802.11N adapters will work with 2.4GHz networks using 802.11B or 802.11G. Any adapter that is 802.11N is also 802.11B/G. If it's done right, it should run 802.11N on 2.4GHz and 5GHz, so you have both options to work with.

802.11N works best when running on 5GHz networks, since it won't be on the same frequency as 802.11B and 802.11G, which is 2.4GHz.

This won't do much to make your Internet connection faster, though for streaming across your LAN from your Windows PC, then yes, it'll be a step up. Since it's USB-connected, it won't be as fast as an 802.11N-to-Ethernet bridge, though 802.11N doesn't usually see top speeds most of the time anyway.
 
I've never understood dolling out the cash for a wireless adapter that's limited to 1 device. Why not get something like this instead?
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']The old adapter is getting a major price drop to the generous price of
$79.99.
[/QUOTE]

fuck you too, Microsoft. :cry:

There is no way to justify an $80 price tag for the adapter.
 
[quote name='klwillis45']I've never understood dolling out the cash for a wireless adapter that's limited to 1 device. Why not get something like this instead?[/QUOTE]
Some gamers don't want to worry if the product is going to work on their xbox, and buying the first party adapter seems like the best idea. I actually use a repeater, and it works GREAT (after I changed my setup to be a little closer to my computer)
 
I just bought a Netgear Wireless-N router that I'm going to put DD-WRT firmware on to make it a 4-port bridge, got it for $35 or so from geeks.com. Much, much cheaper and works for all other ethernet devices.... WIN!
 
It would be nice to have but no way am I getting this. I already paid $100 for it years ago and am still peeved about it to this day...

The best part? The built in wi-fi on my PS3 and the Wii work just as well...:whistle2:?
 
[quote name='Thomas96']damn I had my hopes up about the price of the old adapter being reasonable. Maybe now some of the original adapter might come up as used, for decent prices. [people may look to unload the old for the new][/QUOTE]
It's just a rumor; wait and see when the price actually drops.
 
So....who here is still sportin one of these bad boys???

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besides me...

The sad part is, I've had it since January 1, 2003 or whenever it first came out and it still works perfectly.
And you can find them cheap as hell
 
[quote name='slickkill77']So....who here is still sportin one of these bad boys???

31Q731AD5PL._SL500_AA280_.jpg


besides me...

The sad part is, I've had it since January 1, 2003 or whenever it first came out and it still works perfectly.
And you can find them cheap as hell[/QUOTE] Here, works well with my blu-ray player too.
 
I've got an old Belking Wireless G Gaming adaptor and it's working pretty well except that I can't seem to see the xbox from my computer's sharing software, nor vice versa. I guess because it is, technically, on a different network? I'm wondering, though, if there is a way to get the two to see each other. FYI this isn't a Windows PC, it's a Mac, and I was trying some software called Playback.

Once it's out I might fork out for the the 802.11n official adaptor, which I presume would eliminate this issue, plus N will hopefully make Netflix faster/better (it's actually good quality now, but the startup time is long during the "Determining network bandwidth" stage. Hopefully N would improve that. Actually I don't have an N router at the moment, so I'd have to get that too. I'm only going to get the official N adapter if amazon carries it at a similar discount as they do now with the G adapter.

EDIT: it occurs to me that it may be a firewall issue. Anyone know what I need to open up on the Mac OS X 10.6 firewall to get them to see each other? If that is the issue.
 
Does anyone know if this is still coming out November 3rd? Looks like Gamestop's site removed the listing, Amazon has a listing for it with a release date of November 10th but no pictures or info, and I can't find a single news story about it anywhere that's more recent than a few weeks ago. Has there been any kind of update?
 
[quote name='WormFOODx']The good thing about Microsoft's strategy on their external devices is that you can sell your old wireless adapter and install the new one.[/QUOTE]
This is true. I flipped mine on Amazon a few months back and got like $75 or so bucks for it. (However, now that my modem and router are directly behind the TV, I have no use for the new adapter.)
 
[quote name='crunchewy']I've got an old Belking Wireless G Gaming adaptor and it's working pretty well except that I can't seem to see the xbox from my computer's sharing software, nor vice versa. I guess because it is, technically, on a different network? I'm wondering, though, if there is a way to get the two to see each other. FYI this isn't a Windows PC, it's a Mac, and I was trying some software called Playback.

Once it's out I might fork out for the the 802.11n official adaptor, which I presume would eliminate this issue, plus N will hopefully make Netflix faster/better (it's actually good quality now, but the startup time is long during the "Determining network bandwidth" stage. Hopefully N would improve that. Actually I don't have an N router at the moment, so I'd have to get that too. I'm only going to get the official N adapter if amazon carries it at a similar discount as they do now with the G adapter.

EDIT: it occurs to me that it may be a firewall issue. Anyone know what I need to open up on the Mac OS X 10.6 firewall to get them to see each other? If that is the issue.[/QUOTE]

I hear alot more possitives and compatibility with Connect360 for the Mac. Costs $20 vs $15 for Playback.
http://www.nullriver.com/products/connect360
 
I ended up being able to get it working, but I had to disable the firewall in Mac OS X 10.6 in order to do it. It may be a 10.6.x firewall issue, but in any case, once I was able to try it out I found that it sucked. You can pick from a list of music genres, for example, but then it just dumps you into a huge list of tracks instead of then going to artists, then albums, etc. Pretty mind-blowingly awful. The other features (photos, videos, etc) weren't much better. It wasn't able to play AVI videos that came from my camera. That was a surprise. I don't know if all this is the fault of Playback, or the Xbox, both, or what. Probably I'll try Connect360 to see if it provides different results, but I'm not feeling hopeful.

EDIT: I also just got an official wireless adaptor for my 360, because with the Belkin Wireless G gaming adapter, Netflix would often have hiccups where it had to stop and re-evaluate the connection for an instant. Pretty annoying. This didn't seem to happen when I ran an ethernet cable (which isn't practical, so it was just a test), so I figured the official adapter was worth a shot. I don't yet know for certain that the official adapter fixed that, but so far so good. I'll update if it proves otherwise.
 
So it's looking good with the official G adapter, with regard to Netflix playback. With the Belkin Wireless G adapter, as I noted, we would get not that infrequent hiccups where it would stop for a second or too to "adjust playback" and then start again. Very jarring, to say the least. With the Microsoft Wireless G adapter we aren't getting those any more. However, once when my kids were watching Bolt and I started using our computer to download some stuff, it stopped with a screen saying it had to adjust playback to avoid further interruptions, and from the then on the quality was pretty poor, but this isn't too shocking. They are both using the same Wireless-G network. I shouldn't have started downloading stuff. To get around this I'm thinking of getting a dual-band wireless router and having the computer on the N network and the the 360 and Wii on the G network. Hopefully that will eliminate that problem.
 
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