A Glimpse Into The Psyche Of McCain/Palin Supporters..

Why does the right continue to say being against the war means that you're also against the troops.

And what the hell was that second clip? Free something six? Free monkey sex? I don't see what was so wrong with it other than the guy just being an ass.
 
[quote name='trq']Perhaps I missed it. Where were the far-lefties yelling "Kill him," or "Off with his head"? I'll let the irony of a crowd yelling for the death of a US Senator and presidential candidate, yet calling *him* a "terrorist" go -- that's par for the course on that side of the aisle, as far as I'm concerned.[/quote]

Randy Rhodes and the benevolent crew at Air America have voiced a wish that someone would kill the president and vice president on more a few occasions.

The fact of the matter is that there are a-holes on both sides of the political aisle. These jerks calling for Obama's head are just an example of that. But, as is always the case in election year, the squeaky wheel gets the grease, which is why we have to hear from these morons.

And call me crazy, but I think if Obama called McCain a decent gentleman at a rally, he'd probably get booed as well; however, since Obama is a much more eloquent speaker and much more PR savy, he'd tell the crowd not to boo.

This whole election year has turned into a joke. For the life of me, I can't see why we are taking any of these clowns seriously. I'd go third party, but even the Libertarians haven't fielded a halfway decent candidate. Guess I'll use my right not to vote this time around. Perhaps I'll call it the Voter Apathy Party.

And since I'm sure some of the folks here with stronger opinions for their respective candidate will flamethrower me to Hades, here are a few cut&paste insults you can use to save you time and effort:

1) McCain is a war hero. Off with your head, you terrorist!
2) You insulted Obama, you racist!
3) OMG Sarah Palin iz teh hot! You must like guys!
4) Joe who? sorry, I couldn't help myself :)
 
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[quote name='plasticbathmonki']Randy Rhodes and the benevolent crew at Air America have voiced a wish that someone would kill the president and vice president on more a few occasions.[/QUOTE]

I hear what you're saying, but we've already put her in the same category as the Coulters and Malkins of the world, who make their living by routinely calling for liberals and minorities to be put in concentration camps. It's not positive, but it's political theater. I get that. When you have people at your rally yelling out violent threats toward elected officials and you do nothing to call them down, it's a whole 'nother kettle of fish. So I'm not saying the Left is lacking in nut-jobs; just that they're far better isolated then their equivalent on the Right, where they're consistently appealed to as an important part of the base. I can understand booing. But until someone at an Obama rally calls for McCain to be castrated, skull-fucked, and dipped in lye, while Obama just folds his arms, smiles, and lets it slide, there's no equivalent.
 
[quote name='plasticbathmonki']
1) McCain is a war hero. Off with your head, you terrorist!
2) You insulted Obama, you racist!
3) OMG Sarah Palin iz teh hot! You must like guys!
4) Joe who? sorry, I couldn't help myself :)[/QUOTE]

Don't forget the multitude of people here that will try and give you some line about not having a right to complain if you don't vote.
 
[quote name='depascal22']Why does the right continue to say being against the war means that you're also against the troops.[/quote]

If we didn't have war, we wouldn't need those troops. Then, those troops would be unemployed. If you support the war, you are supporting the troops even if it kills or cripples them.

Easy, right?
 
[quote name='plasticbathmonki']

And call me crazy, but I think if Obama called McCain a decent gentleman at a rally, he'd probably get booed as well; however, since Obama is a much more eloquent speaker and much more PR savy, he'd tell the crowd not to boo.
[/quote]

At the rally in PA yesterday, Biden mentioned that McCain was a war veteran and deserved our respect for that, and the crowd actually gave him a round of applause.

That speaks volumes.
 
[quote name='Purple Flames']At the rally in PA yesterday, Biden mentioned that McCain was a war veteran and deserved our respect for that, and the crowd actually gave him a round of applause.

That speaks volumes.[/quote]

Don't say that. Republicans want to depict the left as nutty peace-loving radicals that are trying to destroy America. By giving McCain a round or applause for his service to this country, you're saying that people can be against war but for the troops and that's against everything the Republican Party and talk radio has ever told me about those Communist Radicals.
 
You silly kids.

We are way past Vietnam. It's very politically incorrect to NOT applaud someone's military service. It's a critical part of the theatrics for both parties now.

And it most certainly does not speak volumes, about anything. The big fat hairy "But" that I'm sure came after Biden's remark is what speaks volumes.
 
More crazyness
http://www.inrich.com/cva/ric/news/politics.apx.-content-articles-RTD-2008-10-12-0086.html
Va. McCain official ousted for column

Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 - 12:09 AM Updated: 06:30 PM

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By SARAH ARKIN



Republican presidential candidate John McCain's campaign has ousted its Buchanan County chairman for writing a newspaper column deemed racially offensive.
The McCain campaign announced it was dropping Bobby May, a Republican political advertising specialist, after it discovered the column commenting on a potential Barack Obama administration.
The column, "The (clarified) platform of Barack Hussein Obama," originally appeared The Voice, a newspaper in the southwestern Virgina county. In it, May mockingly laid out his opinion of what Obama's presidential policies would be.
May wrote that if elected, the Democratic candidate would hire rapper Ludacris to paint the White House black and change the national anthem to the "Black National Anthem" by James Weldon Johnson.
Gail Gitcho, a spokeswoman for McCain's campaign, said in a written statement to the Los Angeles Times that May's attempts at humor "are offensive. . . . The McCain campaign wholeheartedly disavows Mr. May's column."
May has been involved with dozens of Republican campaigns throughout Virginia, including former gubernatorial candidate and Attorney General Jerry Kilgore, Lt. Gov. Bill Bolling and Rep. Virgil H. Goode Jr., R-5th.
Sarah Arkin is a staff writer for the Danville Register & Bee in Danville
 
When can we split this country into two? Is there a reason why we keep trying to make this work? I mean, its like being in a horrible relationship where both people hate each other, but are trying to make it work because they want to live in a nice house. Just friggen break up already america.

Where can I submit this idea to? lol.
 
[quote name='DarkSageRK']
Soldiers are fucking assholes, right?[/quote]
Uh, I know a some soldiers that are fucking assholes. I mean, what they can do is friggen amazing and I'd never be half the man most soldiers are. But some of them are fucking assholes.

What's your point?
 
[quote name='DarkNessBear']When can we split this country into two? Is there a reason why we keep trying to make this work? I mean, its like being in a horrible relationship where both people hate each other, but are trying to make it work because they want to live in a nice house. Just friggen break up already america.

Where can I submit this idea to? lol.[/quote]

They already tried that. It was called Jim Crow.
 
The truth is that America for the most part is split damn near 50/50 (political party wise) state by state, so splitting it up by regions doesn't make any sense anyway. Besides, the differences are supposed to be what makes it work out for the best (like capitalism).
 
More crazy: Hick names his kid "Sarah McCain Palin"

http://www.wbir.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=66550&catid=2

A new father has secretly named his baby girl Sarah McCain Palin after the Republican ticket for president and vice president.

Mark Ciptak of Elizabethton put that name on the documents for the girl's birth certificate, ignoring the name Ava Grace, which he and his wife had picked earlier.

"I don't think she believes me yet," he told the Kingsport Times-News for a story to be published Tuesday. "It's going to take some more convincing."

Ciptak, a blood bank employee for the American Red Cross, said he named his third child after John McCain and Sarah Palin to "to get the word out" about the campaign.

"I took one for the cause," he said. "I can't give a lot of financial support for the (McCain/Palin) campaign. I do have a sign up in my yard, but I can do very little."

"Taking one for the cause" would be changing your OWN name, you bastard. Now both your wife and child will hate you.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']"Taking one for the cause" would be changing your OWN name, you bastard. Now both your wife and child will hate you.[/quote]

Has anybody gotten a McCain/Palin tattoo?
 
[quote name='bmulligan']Well, we could round up all the "liberals", send them to California, and close the door on our way out.[/quote]

The funny thing is that California is just like any other state. The major cities are overwhelmingly liberal except for a couple rich conservative enclaves (parts of Orange County). The middle of the state is very conservative. It's the breadbasket and has as many farmers as any other state in the land. I think you were making a joke but it always reeks of ignorance when I hear someone say that California is only liberals and tree huggers.
 
[quote name='DarkNessBear']When can we split this country into two? Is there a reason why we keep trying to make this work? I mean, its like being in a horrible relationship where both people hate each other, but are trying to make it work because they want to live in a nice house. Just friggen break up already america.

Where can I submit this idea to? lol.[/QUOTE]

I think more and more people in the country feel the same way. The logistics of how and where to split it, though, will probably prevent it from every being done.

Edit: The only fair way I can think of is to just let red states secede, if they want to. Thereby letting them reject any Federal policy they don't like, but also not giving them Federal funds.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']I think more and more people in the country feel the same way. The logistics of how and where to split it, though, will probably prevent it from every being done.

Edit: The only fair way I can think of is to just let red states secede, if they want to. Thereby letting them reject any Federal policy they don't like, but also not giving them Federal funds.[/QUOTE]

I'm increasingly tempted by this plan (this whole "Cold Civil War" thing can't sustain itself, one way or another), but then I'm reminded of all the self-described centrists who make up the bulk of the country and who neither want to live in "Naive hippy land" OR "Close-minded bigot land." Seems kind of unfair for them.
 
[quote name='trq']I'm increasingly tempted by this plan (this whole "Cold Civil War" thing can't sustain itself, one way or another), but then I'm reminded of all the self-described centrists who make up the bulk of the country and who neither want to live in "Naive hippy land" OR "Close-minded bigot land." Seems kind of unfair for them.[/quote]

Then, let's cut the country up into ... 50 independent countries.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']Then, let's cut the country up into ... 50 independent countries.[/QUOTE]

Hehe. Nice. I believe that is more what is intended, actually. I would be all for it. Sort of like the EU.
 
That would work except for large metro areas that straddle two or more states. It's already a nightmare to get to New Jersey from Manhattan. Why make it more difficult?
 
[quote name='depascal22']That would work except for large metro areas that straddle two or more states. It's already a nightmare to get to New Jersey from Manhattan. Why make it more difficult?[/QUOTE]

Perhaps merge those states then? I kind of feel many of those East coast states are too small and are blue enough to be merged anyway.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']Then, let's cut the country up into ... 50 independent countries.[/QUOTE]

there are those who would argue thats what the founding fathers had in mind.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Perhaps merge those states then? I kind of feel many of those East coast states are too small and are blue enough to be merged anyway.[/quote]

Except for the fact that New Jersey has two major metro areas. Philly and NYC but can claim neither. You'd have to split it and that would be impossible since everyone in Pennsylvania and New York hate New Jersey. Connecticut is another tricky one. It's part of New England but clearly part of metro NY.

Here's the best one. St. Louis has a sizable population on the Illinois side but Illinois is a blue state and Missouri is a red state. What do you do then? You could carve out Southern Illinois, Indiana, and Ohio and create a new redneck state called Southern Illiohana. Cincinnati would be it's capitol and guns would be given out as soon as you leave the womb.
 
[quote name='RAMSTORIA']there are those who would argue thats what the founding fathers had in mind.[/QUOTE]

It won't surprise anyone that I certainly would.

People are too different. Period. They naturally segregate themselves into like-minded groups, which is perfectly fine if you use it as as strength.

I've never understood the desire to solidify all 350 million of us under one governing umbrella. Let people be in their little groups and loosely connect them; seems the only sensible thing to do.
 
At this rate, the US economic plan probably involves renting out some of the southern states to foreign investors as a way to outsource jobs while keeping the workers at home.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']It won't surprise anyone that I certainly would.

People are too different. Period. They naturally segregate themselves into like-minded groups, which is perfectly fine if you use it as as strength.

I've never understood the desire to solidify all 350 million of us under one governing umbrella. Let people be in their little groups and loosely connect them; seems the only sensible thing to do.[/quote]

It will be very difficult for us to fight wars and do anything that would cause one group of states or groups to fight more than another.
 
[quote name='depascal22']It will be very difficult for us to fight wars and do anything that would cause one group of states or groups to fight more than another.[/quote]

Would it be a damn shame if 70% of their country withdrew their support and troops for the Iraq War.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']Would it be a damn shame if 70% of their country withdrew their support and troops for the Iraq War.[/quote]

I'm not talking just about the Iraq War. I think we should pull out of that anyway. I'm talking about another world war or something close to that magnitude. How could we get a consensus to do anything if we had 50 separate executives trying to get their state the top billing in what ever we would do. What if half the states decided to support the other side? This could've happened during WWI and II. There was much support for the Germans up until Pearl Harbor. It's not like we were getting in to stop the Holocaust. We could've gotten in years earlier and saved alot of people but since we weren't attacked...oh well. Hell, Ford even received a medal from Hitler himself.
 
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[quote name='depascal22']I'm not talking just about the Iraq War. I think we should pull out of that anyway. I'm talking about another world war or something close to that magnitude. How could we get a consensus to do anything if we had 50 separate executives trying to get their state the top billing in what ever we would do. What if half the states decided to support the other side? This could've happened during WWI and II. There was much support for the Germans up until Pearl Harbor. It's not like we were getting in to stop the Holocaust. We could've gotten in years earlier and saved alot of people but since we weren't attacked...oh well. Hell, Ford even received a medal from Hitler himself.[/quote]

Name a legitimate war that has served the American people in the last 100 years.

Remember; nothing before 1908.
 
[quote name='depascal22']World War II is the easy one.[/quote]

I know American companies were helping Germany (Ford), but didn't that support end in 1939?

Weren't we arming the British long before we declared war on Germany but after Germany invaded Poland?
 
Although there is evidence that European plants owned by Wall Street interests were not bombed by the U.S. Air Force in World War II, this restriction apparently did not reach the British Bombing Command. In March 1942 the Royal Air Force bombed the Ford plant at Poissy, France. A subsequent letter from Edsel Ford to Ford General Manager Sorenson about this RAF raid commented, "Photographs of the plant on fire were published in American newspapers but fortunately no reference was made to the Ford Motor Company.15 In any event, the Vichy government paid Ford Motor Company 38 million francs as compensation for damage done to the Poissy plant. This was not reported in the U.S. press and would hardly be appreciated by those Americans at war with Naziism. Dubois asserts that these private messages from Ford in Europe were passed to Edsel Ford by Assistant Secretary of State Breckenridge Long. This was the same Secretary Long who one year later suppressed private messages through the State Department concerning the extermination of Jews in Europe. 16 Disclosure of those messages conceivably could have been used to assist those desperate people.


Looks like we were arming both sides as we've done for most of our wars in the last century. It was the same during Iran - Iraq. Here's the whole article if you want to read it: http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/chapter_06.htm
 
I love this Islamic hate coming from everyone. Hey, i'm muslim, so I MUST be a terrorist! I can't believe how acceptable islamophobia is in the United States. And there's actually people who say Muslims are too sensitive? There's a reason...and these videos are exactly the reason.
 
[quote name='motuza']I love this Islamic hate coming from everyone. Hey, i'm muslim, so I MUST be a terrorist! I can't believe how acceptable islamophobia is in the United States. And there's actually people who say Muslims are too sensitive? There's a reason...and these videos are exactly the reason.[/QUOTE]

The hate is self perpetuating, and mainstream Islam does little to address it. Very few "mainstream" peaceful Muslims speak out against Jihadists. This tends to give a vibe to some that they either don't care about the violence or condone it on some level.

Most intelligent/educated people are smart enough to know that not all Muslims are terrorists or condone it. But Muslims themselves do little to help the perception out there.
 
[quote name='motuza']I love this Islamic hate coming from everyone. Hey, i'm muslim, so I MUST be a terrorist! I can't believe how acceptable islamophobia is in the United States. And there's actually people who say Muslims are too sensitive? There's a reason...and these videos are exactly the reason.[/QUOTE]

It's annoying as hell. I'm agnostic/leaning atheist and it disgusts me how much hate is tolerated of Muslims. There are assholes in every religion, as shown by Capitalizt's video. I saw that video a few days ago. fucking disgusts me. But hey, I know someone from that town (St. Clairsville) who is a decent person and would never think of saying any of that horseshit. Again, assholes are everywhere, doesn't mean the entire demographic is make up of assholes.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']

Most intelligent/educated people are smart enough to know that not all Muslims are terrorists or condone it. But Muslims themselves do little to help the perception out there.[/quote]



I don't see a group white people out their convincing colored folk that not all white people are bad.

In fact, there should not be a group like that. Why should us colored folk fear white people just because of a few the many bad pages in history white people had a hand in?

Why should people fear you because a few people did some very bad things and you just happen to share the same race/religion with.

Why is it then your duty to dispell that fear caused by the minority? Don't you have a life to live?
 
[quote name='ananag112']Why do politicians continue to try and divide this country? We don't need race, religion, and class wars at a time like this.[/QUOTE]

Because it usually pays off short term dividends. And in case you haven't noticed, almost all politicians are only concerned about short term.
 
[quote name='ananag112']Why do politicians continue to try and divide this country? We don't need race, religion, and class wars at a time like this.[/QUOTE]

This is not a both parties do it thing.

Palin especially and other Republican party politicians have made division their bread and butter.

They literally hate the majority of Americans and do not consider them "real" Americans and say as much on TV.
 
[quote name='lilboo']:lol: The funny part about racism and all this other hate in America is that white people are the actual problem.[/QUOTE]

Ummm, what?
 
Whoa, we have a winner for the King Asshole of the Year prize...

http://www.local12.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=39c3f3ee-24f8-4126-9ea8-f8b18ef1c2d1

Thousands of people across the United States are discussing race and politics after TV stations, newspapers, and political blogs picked up the story of a Fairfield man's anti-Obama display.

Mike Lunsford hung the display at a home at Symmes and Hicks Road in Fairfield this week. His neighbors called Local 12 to express their shock, saying the display is racist and offensive.

But Lunsford, who spoke to Local 12's Shawn Ley spoke isn't shy about his views.

The make-shift ghost hangs from a noose above an"McCain-Palin" sign. A Barack Obama sign attached upside down. Obama's middle name: "Hussein" spray painted and misspelled above.

Mike Lunsford hung the ghost in his yard. He spoke to us off-camera, saying his views could hurt his employers business ... but he says make no mistake: He doesn't want an African American running the country.

Lunsford says he believes Barack Obama is not a "full blooded American." And he says the United States is a white, Christian nation - and only with white Christians should be in power. With Lunsford not willing to share his views on-camera:

"It's like whoa. He's definitely anti-black."

Vickie Crowe lives next door. She's an Obama supporter.

"What did you think when you first saw that?" Vickie Crowe/neighbor: "Well actually my 5 year old son says Obama's hanging upside down. He's what? He's hanging upside down. It's the neighbor's ghost. I took it as a little bit of a racist statement because my grandson's mixed and it hurt a little bit."

Mike Lunsford says he got the idea after an Obama supporter in New York put up this display of a Obama mannequin being chased by a figure of John McCain wearing Ku Klux Klan robes.

Another neighbor, Megan Sory says this symbol makes her more than uneasy it scares her. Megan Story/neighbor: "He's been a really nice neighbor but it's one of those you question and wonder, you know, if he's that forward about something will he be forward enough to do something else, too. it is scary at times but we live in a scary world."

Lunsford also says he's motivated by the national media which he says is pro-Obama.

Local 12's story on the ghost has been picked up over the last 24 hours by major TV stations and newspapers across the country and nearly a dozen political blogs, including USA Today and Democratic Underground. Readers of those sites have been weighing in with comments, as have Local12.com users.
 
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