a question for fans of zombie films and zombie games

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If you could choose one zombie film to make a game out of which film would you choose and how would you want the game to come out? would it be a full out action game, maybe a top down shooter or an real time strategy game or maybe an rpg action hybrid. it looks like for now the best game to really get the zombie game feel is dead rising but it looks like with games like left 4 dead coming out theyre startign to flesh out zombie games more.

me personally its a toss between day of the dead( the original script) dawn of the dead and the dawn remake. much like dead rising itd be cool to have full access to the mall and have stores where everythning can be used to your advantage not to mention if you could have online games against other human players you could reinact the end scene from dawn with the 3 survivors vs the bikers vs the zombies.

but then i liked the fast moving zombies from the dawn remake and itd be cool to have present day weapons in the game and fast moving zombies would make the game more of a challenge.

and for any of you who have read the original day script you know how cool that bunker was originally and itd be cool to see that fully realized as well as to play a game in a world totally overrun by zombies as well as having to deal with the human political aspect inside of the human city.

and overall itd be fun to be able to play the game straight up like the movie or to be able to change events in the game and have that completly change the way the game ends. like in dawn you could keep the other swat guy from getting bitten would his surviving have held flyboy from getting killed? and with all 4 of them working together could they have held off the bikers?
 
how about , an rpg (like dungeon siege type) spanning from the original night of the living dead to day of the dead?

like you start out as ben from the original, and fight through the nighit, and if you make it, the story ends just liket he movie for now, and you can continue on through an extended story possibly, then it turns into a dawn of the dead type thing, and you keep ben and other survivors with the same levels and abilities and such and then they become NPCs or something while you use the new protagonists from said movie (game)
if you die or lose a character, they become zombies too, but with greater abilities
i.e. if ben dies, and you're in dawn of the dead..i guess somehow itll bridge together and you eventually confront ben (optional fight i suppose) he'll be tougher and so will the other survivors with him, but when you beat him, you get more exp and his stuff that he was carrying..
im not sure, running low on fuel lol and i just thought of this right now :p
 
I'd like a Day of the Dead type zombie game. Think Animal Crossing meets Quake. You build up a stronghold, deal with food/water/ammunition, and deal with the constant attacks on your stronghold. Actually, that'd be a great MMO universe.
 
I think dead rising is a fantastic example of how good a zombie game can be, add a bit more realism and it would be an amazing game with nearly unlimited replay value.
 
yeah one more major thing zombie games need are head shot or destruction kills. it always bugged me in re games zombies die after a bunch of body shots which depending on which zombie lore you go by isnt accurate at all. id love to see games focre you to use your bullets wisely and to take head shots only when you can afford to do so. to maximize that youd need to be able to use the envrionment more to your advantage like instead of trying to shoot all the zombies in a mall shoot down something big hanging above to have it drop on them thereby saving ammo.

level design would definelty take alot in that case but itd be so worth it. blockading doors being able to destroy walls or floors to get into other places. which begs the question if this new gen of systems would be up to that challenge or is that lebel of detail and interactivity still a ways away?

but man to be there in a co op game plugging away at zombies kcocking back bodies and taking off limbs while they push foward at you would be fun to play.
 
Definitely not an RPG - you could incorporate RPG elements but you need some action and control in Zombie games. I liked the "Land of the Dead" game personally. Stubbs was interesting... yet to get to dead rising as I have no 360
 
I've always been a fan of the original black & white Night of the Living, aswell as the color remake. I never saw the original Dawn of the Dead, but I'm a big fan of the remake & I'd like to see a sequel.

I'd like to play a well made, mature, story driven FPS zombie game with real time strategy elements with fully descructable zombies. Maybe you could start as making your way to a house, and then have moveable objects were you can baracade windows, nail up boards, with a limited amount supplies were these items has a bearing on the story, and how you use them.
 
Know what came closer than Dead Rising? City of the Dead! It got canned because of budget issues, but it was a game that Romero was lending a script to specifically for the game, and it was fucking awesome.

I played an alpha at E3 2005, and it was one of the most entertaining FPS's I've ever played, hands down. Enemies were randomly generated, so when you started in a level you didn't know if there would be a zombie behind you or if you'd even encounter one for the 1st few minutes of gameplay. They had great ragdoll physics and awesome hit detection for blowing off different body parts...it was the one game I was looking forward to more than anything, and then it just disappeared. I looked it up recently and found out it got the axe :(

And no, it has nothing to do w/ the Land of the Dead movie-game which has gotten such bad reviews (haven't played it yet, so I have no personal opinion.)
 
[quote name='The Crotch'] Attractive, naked zombies dancing on tombstones while guys with glow-sticks dance around? Check. Zombies getting pick-axes stuck in their heads? Check. The world coming to an end? Checkmate.
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Indeed, as long as they included the nude antics of the pre-zombie Trash, I'd be happy, she was so hot.
 
[quote name='The Crotch']Return of the Living Dead. After the original "Night", Romero and the writer went their separate ways. They gave each-other the right to carry on the series. Thus, Return of the Living Dead was born. It was actually a lot more popular than Romero's Dawn when it first came out, but not many people know of it now. Can't blame 'em - looks like a horrendous B-movie of "Plan 9" proportions. But it is awesome. Zombies getting burned by acid? Check. Zombies getting tossed into incinerators*? Check. Zombies getting cut in half? Check. Attractive, naked zombies dancing on tombstones while guys with glow-sticks dance around? Check. Zombies getting pick-axes stuck in their heads? Check. The world coming to an end? Checkmate.

Return's zombies were as fast as humans, often running at full speed towards their targets. They were as smart as humans - capable not only of talking (depending on how decomposed they were), but also planning traps for the police. And if you ignore the horrendous sequels handled by an entirely different director and writer, they're virtually invincible. Headshots do nothing - the only way to kill them is to burn them (And guess what? The smoke turns anyone that breathes it into a zombie. Yeah. You're fucked, buddy.). If you do enough damage to them/let them eat brains, they'll be temporarily pacified, but after a minute or two, they're nibbling on your face. At least the bites aren't infectious.

At that point, there's not much you can mess up. A fast-paced game with an emphasis more on getting the fuck away from where you are than on shotgunning zombies. The player would have to be fast, strong, and extremely agile. Weaponry would range from normal (your basic shotgun, crowbar, etc.) to movie-based (Luger, the aforementioned pickaxe, jars of acid, etc.) to nonsensical (just play Armed and Dangerous or Zombies Ate my Neighbors to see what I'm thinking). Toss in some multiplayer - online co-op, and maybe the option for one player to play as the Tar Man and hunt the humans. I'd buy it.


*By an ex-Nazi, no less[/quote]


i never knew the guy who did return of the living dead had anythign to do with night of the living dead. no wonder it was such a cool film and youre right about them being invinciblewhich is probably why the film scared the shit out of me so much back then. at least in romeros films they could be beaten but return youre pretty much sol. so going from your iidea that would change he game alot more.


yeah they can be damaged and incapacitated to some extent but if the game was more about just survivng instead of fighting it would amke the game alot scarier and with their speed and inteligence whose to say you hear some chick in the game screaming for help it could be part of a zombie ambush which could add alot to whether you risk your neck to save others or not.


and i get what you mean by the nonsencial weapons zombies ate my neighbors was a cool game. so then add in the ability to combine things in the environment to use as weapons as well as barracading and blocking things off and the game could be a hell of a game. and then maybe you could play it later as a zombie leading zombies to where humans are and trying to set people up to be eaten.

and yeah trash was freakin amazingly hott definetly a highlight of the film.


come to think fo it the reanimator series could make cool games too especially if you have the power to use west's formula to create and control the dead. but beyond that i dunno what the story would be based around.
 
[quote name='johnnypark']Know what came closer than Dead Rising? City of the Dead! It got canned because of budget issues, but it was a game that Romero was lending a script to specifically for the game, and it was fucking awesome.

I played an alpha at E3 2005, and it was one of the most entertaining FPS's I've ever played, hands down. Enemies were randomly generated, so when you started in a level you didn't know if there would be a zombie behind you or if you'd even encounter one for the 1st few minutes of gameplay. They had great ragdoll physics and awesome hit detection for blowing off different body parts...it was the one game I was looking forward to more than anything, and then it just disappeared. I looked it up recently and found out it got the axe :(

And no, it has nothing to do w/ the Land of the Dead movie-game which has gotten such bad reviews (haven't played it yet, so I have no personal opinion.)[/quote]


was that the one where tom savin was involved with ? i swear a few years back he had his hands in some game and was even supposed to play a character in it.
 
[quote name='lokizz']was that the one where tom savin was involved with ? i swear a few years back he had his hands in some game and was even supposed to play a character in it.[/quote]

Yeah, Savini was on board and everything. I found the link to the preview write-up I did (includes screenshots!) for the site I used to work for:

http://gameplasma.com/previews,id,1258,previewid,116.html

It's painful reading that article and remembering how goddamned fun that game was...plus isn't it a little ironic that a game about zombies got killed and never came back to life?
 
Crotch, you've been reading some very distorted history.

George Romero's co-writer on the original 'Night of the Living Dead' was John Russo. He later wrote a novel as a sequel. It's pretty rare but I happen to have it. There was no issue of who had rights to the franchise because neither of them could make that claim. Ownership of the film had been all over the place, which is why DVD versions have appeared from multiple sources. The nature of the subject matter and title meant that it would be extremely difficult for anyone to claim ownership of the franchise or that there even was a franchise. Movies with the phrase 'living dead' have appeared since the late 1920s, so staking a claim would be hard.

This novel was the basis for the movie, Return of the Living Dead, which came out eight years after Dawn of the Dead. The screenplay Dan O'Bannon wrote and directed had extremely little resemblence tot he source material, though. For all means and purposes there is no real relation between the two film series. In all the ways that really matter to audiences it is Dan O'Bannon's movie. O'Bannon's career started in collaboration with John Carpenter on 'Dark Star,' the best movie ever made in a garage. He also plays one of the few characters in the movie.
 
Ok what exactly is the timeline in the Dawn of the Dead series?

Is it....
Dawn of the Dead
The Return of the Living Dead
Day of the Dead.
Night of the Living Dead.


Can anyone help me out?
 
[quote name='Nirvanaguy777']I think dead rising is a fantastic example of how good a zombie game can be, add a bit more realism and it would be an amazing game with nearly unlimited replay value.[/quote]

Exactly.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']Ok what exactly is the timeline in the Dawn of the Dead series?

Is it....
Dawn of the Dead
The Return of the Living Dead
Day of the Dead.
Night of the Living Dead.


Can anyone help me out?[/quote]

it goes

night of the living dead

dawn of the dead

day of the dead


return of the living dead wasnt a part of the romero series and the return film had a bunch of sequels many of which were odd although i did dig the one with the zombie chick who put pointy things through her boobs.
 
Found a little more info on City of the Dead, it's developer (Hip Ineractive) went bankrupt and no one ever picked the game back up:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/07/11/news_6128838.html

It's a damn shame, too.

On a different note: no offense to anyone who enjoyed the film(s), but I can't stand when people mistake Return of the Living Dead with Romero's masterpieces. RotLD had it's charms but ultimately was just too silly for it's own good and never had any fear or tension in the film - they even show a zombie using a phone!

Sadly, my understanding of it is that RotLD is one of the reasons Day of the Dead (Romero's 3rd movie) did so poorly, because they were released close together and audiences were more into ditzy naked chicks and slapstick humor than they were a much deeper and thought-out mythos and storyline.
 
QTF. I like the 'Return' films, and I appreciate their campy humour. But they in no way compare to Romeros films on any level.

[quote name='johnnypark']Found a little more info on City of the Dead, it's developer (Hip Ineractive) went bankrupt and no one ever picked the game back up:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/07/11/news_6128838.html

It's a damn shame, too.

On a different note: no offense to anyone who enjoyed the film(s), but I can't stand when people mistake Return of the Living Dead with Romero's masterpieces. RotLD had it's charms but ultimately was just too silly for it's own good and never had any fear or tension in the film - they even show a zombie using a phone!

Sadly, my understanding of it is that RotLD is one of the reasons Day of the Dead (Romero's 3rd movie) did so poorly, because they were released close together and audiences were more into ditzy naked chicks and slapstick humor than they were a much deeper and thought-out mythos and storyline.[/quote]
 
I would really like a zombie MMOFPS. The game would have major factions (like a now defunct US army, to smaller factions. You would get exp in the form of rep. The higher your rep, the bigger guns/vehicles you will have access too. You would make money by raiding stores (Like Land of the Dead). Man, if only this would happen.
 
[quote name='niceguyshawne']It is Night, Dawn, Day, Land.

As mentioned above, Return is seperate.[/quote]


land shouldnt even be counted as horrible as that film was. everything about it was hard to believe and get into. you see a smart fuckin zombie and you dont kill it outright? fuck that theres just too many plot holes and lame characters in that film like it was way too commercial for its own good. and i still dont get how those military guys got overpowered so easily when the zombies were at the gate.


all they needed to do was get up high and shoot. first kill the zombie with the guy and take out the rest over time. yeah maybe they got killed because theyd gotten sloppy but eh overall when its said and done you could give 2 shits about any of the characters none of them were interesting or important.
 
[quote name='lokizz']land shouldnt even be counted as horrible as that film was. everything about it was hard to believe and get into. you see a smart fuckin zombie and you dont kill it outright? fuck that theres just too many plot holes and lame characters in that film like it was way too commercial for its own good. and i still dont get how those military guys got overpowered so easily when the zombies were at the gate.


all they needed to do was get up high and shoot. first kill the zombie with the guy and take out the rest over time. yeah maybe they got killed because theyd gotten sloppy but eh overall when its said and done you could give 2 shits about any of the characters none of them were interesting or important.[/quote]

I didn't think it was that bad. It's definitely not as good as the other 3, but it's nice to see Romero doing his own thing and continuing the ideas from Dawn and Day, with the zombies remembering small things and adapting a little. There's always a lot of social issues in his scripts, too, so even if it's a bad Romero movie, it's still Romero and probably better than 1/2 the crap Hollywood churns out.

On a related note...a spiritual remake for Day of the Dead looks to be on the way, here's a Youtube trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulvle4RT7Bk

Though I'm still a little skeptical, Mena Suvari doesn't look nearly out of place in a military outfit or firing a gun as I thought she would. The article I found said that this movie has nothing to do with the Dawn remake... I don't know why they'd remake a sequel to the original without tying them together, but whatever, I'll still probably see it ;)
 
[quote name='johnnypark']I didn't think it was that bad. It's definitely not as good as the other 3, but it's nice to see Romero doing his own thing and continuing the ideas from Dawn and Day, with the zombies remembering small things and adapting a little. There's always a lot of social issues in his scripts, too, so even if it's a bad Romero movie, it's still Romero and probably better than 1/2 the crap Hollywood churns out.

On a related note...a spiritual remake for Day of the Dead looks to be on the way, here's a Youtube trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulvle4RT7Bk

Though I'm still a little skeptical, Mena Suvari doesn't look nearly out of place in a military outfit or firing a gun as I thought she would. The article I found said that this movie has nothing to do with the Dawn remake... I don't know why they'd remake a sequel to the original without tying them together, but whatever, I'll still probably see it ;)[/quote]


yeah heres to hoping it will be based off of romers original script for day . if he had had the money he needed to pull it off properly that movie would have been the best dead film ever even over dawn of the dead. if youve never read that script its definelty worth finding to see how big that film was supposed to be and then see what it ended up being.
 
I just read in EGM magazine another Zombie game called "Left for Dead" is in the works which it has multiplayer modes/elements. I can type the article "later" if anyone wants the info on it.

Also, I read in a another recent edition of EGM Dead Rising 2 is in the works, and it will probably be X360 exclusive.
 
[quote name='retail sucks']I
Also, I read in a another recent edition of EGM Dead Rising 2 is in the works, and it will possibly be X360 exclusive.[/quote]

I thought the 1st one was exclusive? Here's hoping for a PC port (that is NOT Vista exclusive)!
 
Personally, I would like to see a 3D type remake of Corpse Killer. It was an FMV rail shooter for the Saturn and other systems. Limited gameplay, but very funny and cheesy story and visuals. Reminds me of low budget zombies films like the Zombie series (2, 3, etc), Burial Ground, & Dr. Butcher, MD. Just a thought...
 
[quote name='retail sucks']I just read in EGM magazine another Zombie game called "Left for Dead" is in the works which it has multiplayer modes/elements. I can type the article "later" if anyone wants the info on it.

Also, I read in a another recent edition of EGM Dead Rising 2 is in the works, and it will possibly be X360 exclusive.[/quote]


yeah thats what got me to posting this post. its supposed to have 4 player online co op which if they can pull it off will be amazingly awesome. not to mention you can play as a zombie or as a human. just one more reason the 360 is lookign so damn good right now. but micro transactions still bug me.
 
[quote name='whoknows']Anyone remember Dead Rush? That would have been a badass zombie game had it not been cancelled :cry:[/QUOTE]

Just the other day I was wondering how that game would've turned out! That was my most anticipated game that year until it got canned.
 
[quote name='johnnypark']I thought the 1st one was exclusive? Here's hoping for a PC port (that is NOT Vista exclusive)![/QUOTE]

:error: I meant 'probably' instead of "possible exclusive". :error: My bad, I've been sitting here with a good case of the flu, and my brain burnt up in a fever, lol.:drool: :hot: :cold: :bomb: :whistle2:& #-o :puke:
 
I thought Land was pretty entertaining. Not a single problem with it.

IMO it would have to be:
Land
Dawn / Shaun *TIE
Dawn Remake
Night
Day
 
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