According to Kojima, MGS 4 probably not headed to 360

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[quote name='Strell']What are the software sales of MGS2 on the Xbox versus the PS2?

Also, how would these have changed if the game was released simultaneously on each system?[/QUOTE]

Since they were released at different times and the PS2 dominated the market I don't think those numbers would tell anyone much.
 
[quote name='-Never4ever-']My gripe with this trhead: this is 360 news, in the wrong section. Placing it here is an obvious flamefest setup.

With that said, MGS4 is coming to 360, whether or not Kojima-san thinks / wants it not to happen. Once initial sales bomb, Konami is going to be in a world of financial hurt. And the only way to ease that hurt is with a bunch of DS games and a 360 port.[/QUOTE]
Almost every thread in the PS3 forum has some sort of flames going on. And if it was posted in the 360 forum you could just as easily call it trolling, aka what you are doing right now.

And you are just assuming the sales will bomb on the PS3. You do know more consoles will be sold between now and the release of MGS4 right?
 
[quote name='Indiana']Non HD edition? How is PS3 HD and 360 not HD? Both are capable of HD graphics.[/quote]
No HD sound.
Kojima wants a movie like game after all.
Need 7.1 LPCM.

(not that many of us can take advantage of that yet, but i will soon! can't wait)
 
I highly doubt this game will stay exclusive, even in the short run. Given the amount of development time, this game must be costing a fortune. It has been said a thousand times, but the time has come to say goodbye to most 3rd party exclusives. Better for gamers in my opinion. Forces the console makers to push out some truly innovative/epic/whatever IPs over each console's lifespan.
 
Who wants games on the 360 to rub in people's faces? Sounds like some of your guys own feeling are coming out.

I bought a PS3 the other day mainly for this game, but I'd love for it to come out on the 360.
 
I don't see why people are getting upset over exclusives being "lost." If you have the system and want to play the game, why the hell should it matter if somebody else who bought the "other" system gets to play it too?

I think a lot of people (particularly on the internet) forget that gaming is about playing games, not whether or not "your console" is going to "win."

If anything, I think that this (inevitable?) movement towards pretty much all 3rd party games being multiplatform a good thing. More people get to play games, and developers see more profits at the end of the day.
 
I don't really remember the "Exclusive Wars" being this intense before the Xbox hit the scene. It was always around sure, but since the XB2 has landed it seems that is all we ever talk about.
 
[quote name='zewone']Who wants games on the 360 to rub in people's faces? Sounds like some of your guys own feeling are coming out.[/QUOTE]

They exist. Not pointing to anyone in this topic, as no one seems to be that way, but I have seen people act that way. The opposite is true too (Sony fanboys not wanting it to go multi just to shove it in 360 owners' faces).
 
[quote name='dpatel']They exist. Not pointing to anyone in this topic, as no one seems to be that way, but I have seen people act that way. The opposite is true too (Sony fanboys not wanting it to go multi just to shove it in 360 owners' faces).[/quote]
Go check out the IGN boards. It can get pretty pathetic over there sometimes.
 
I don't see this title "bombing" on the PS3. I gaurentee everyone in Japan will buy this game that has a ps3, and this game is extremely popular with PS3 owners and europeans.
 
The MGS fanbase will buy a PS3 just for this game alone, even if it would come out a year later for both the PS3 and Xbox 360 as MGS4: Swhatever. This really is a non-issue. imo.
 
[quote name='somahead33']Go check out the IGN boards. It can get pretty pathetic over there sometimes.[/QUOTE]

*is a member of gamefaqs*

oh I've seen much worse.
 
its fine if people wanna rationalize multiplatform games as "more people get to play it = good!"...but what grinds some PS3 fans (myself included) is that this multiplatform BS is a oneway street, for example see DMC4 going to 360 the reason capcom says the game will appeal to a broader larger audience....ok....but then they turn around and say Lost Planet/Dead Rising isnt making it on to PS3......so what, those games arent good enough to appeal to PS3's 2-3million users? gotta be fair and consistent, developers.....dont just port one way and ignore the userbase that got you where you are (i.e. PS2 users now PS3 users)

as soon as devs give PS3 a fair share of multiplatform games, then i will stop calling them hypocrites
 
[quote name='cargo555']its fine if people wanna rationalize multiplatform games as "more people get to play it = good!"...but what grinds some PS3 fans (myself included) is that this multiplatform BS is a oneway street, for example see DMC4 going to 360 the reason capcom says the game will appeal to a broader larger audience....ok....but then they turn around and say Lost Planet/Dead Rising isnt making it on to PS3......so what, those games arent good enough to appeal to PS3's 2-3million users? gotta be fair and consistent, developers.....dont just port one way and ignore the userbase that got you where you are (i.e. PS2 users now PS3 users)

as soon as devs give PS3 a fair share of multiplatform games, then i will stop calling them hypocrites[/QUOTE]


Well, its obvious as to why this is happening, but I agree it's frustrating. Most are probably waiting for a large enough fanbase to start bringing more ports the other way.
 
[quote name='cargo555']its fine if people wanna rationalize multiplatform games as "more people get to play it = good!"...but what grinds some PS3 fans (myself included) is that this multiplatform BS is a oneway street, for example see DMC4 going to 360 the reason capcom says the game will appeal to a broader larger audience....ok....but then they turn around and say Lost Planet/Dead Rising isnt making it on to PS3......so what, those games arent good enough to appeal to PS3's 2-3million users? gotta be fair and consistent, developers.....dont just port one way and ignore the userbase that got you where you are (i.e. PS2 users now PS3 users)

as soon as devs give PS3 a fair share of multiplatform games, then i will stop calling them hypocrites[/quote]

The difference is that those games have already been released for the 360... between DMC 4 and Resident Evil 5 (which will be released on Ps3 and 360 simultaneously), I'm sure Capcom has their hands full.

Also, you seem to have forgotten about Oblivion, Splinter Cell Double Agent, Rainbow Six Vegas, and FEAR (not exactly exclusives, but they are all being made for PS3). 360 has been out for a year... it will be a 2 way street once the ball gets rolling.
 
You'd think BOTH versions of 3 staying exclusive to Sony, even after 2 was multiplatform, would mean something. If Konami thought MGS does better on other systems, I can't help but think atleast one of those wouldn't have been exclusive.
 
[quote name='TimPV3']You'd think BOTH versions of 3 staying exclusive to Sony, even after 2 was multiplatform, would mean something. If Konami thought MGS does better on other systems, I can't help but think atleast one of those wouldn't have been exclusive.[/QUOTE]

Even though MGS3 was exclusive, the PS2 =/= PS3. The PS2 had a much larger fanbase than the competition. As it stands right now, the 360 has the biggest lead, yet it still is far away from what the PS2 was at at the time of MGS3s release.
 
[quote name='cargo555']its fine if people wanna rationalize multiplatform games as "more people get to play it = good!"...but what grinds some PS3 fans (myself included) is that this multiplatform BS is a oneway street, for example see DMC4 going to 360 the reason capcom says the game will appeal to a broader larger audience....ok....but then they turn around and say Lost Planet/Dead Rising isnt making it on to PS3......so what, those games arent good enough to appeal to PS3's 2-3million users? gotta be fair and consistent, developers.....dont just port one way and ignore the userbase that got you where you are (i.e. PS2 users now PS3 users)

as soon as devs give PS3 a fair share of multiplatform games, then i will stop calling them hypocrites[/quote]
It does cost money to port a title over to a system. It is not as simple as switching the content to a different format disc and packaging. From a profitability standpoint, right now it just makes more sense for titles to go from PS3>360 than the other way around. Also, I am sure it is much easier to develop for multiconsoles early in the softwares development stages then after the title has hit the market. This will change, just give it time. It really should be no surprise to any PS3 owner what was going to happen here.
 
maybe im exaggerating....im sure that those games will eventually make it to PS3 (LostPlanet/DeadRising)....but whats frustrating is that sony's keeping so damn mum on the whole matter of former Playstation exclusives going onto rival consoles (DMC4/AceCombat)....not even a PR response/announcement.nada.zip.zilch.
makes Sony seem like they dont even care.
whats worse is that sony isnt even pushing their own first party games hard enough....we've barely seen much media/hype for lair/warhawk/heavenly sword...i mean C'MON, SONY, GIVE PS3 OWNERS SOMETHING to be excited about regardless if its 1st or 3rd party!
 
[quote name='cargo555']maybe im exaggerating....im sure that those games will eventually make it to PS3 (LostPlanet/DeadRising)....but whats frustrating is that sony's keeping so damn mum on the whole matter of former Playstation exclusives going onto rival consoles (DMC4/AceCombat)....not even a PR response/announcement.nada.zip.zilch.
makes Sony seem like they dont even care.
whats worse is that sony isnt even pushing their own first party games hard enough....we've barely seen much media/hype for lair/warhawk/heavenly sword...i mean C'MON, SONY, GIVE PS3 OWNERS SOMETHING to be excited about regardless if its 1st or 3rd party![/QUOTE]
Heavenly Sword was on Heroes. Why hype up the games, that are not going to be released in the next month.
 
[quote name='Sarang01']I really can't understand for the life of me why Kojima-san hates HD DVD. I'm sending him an e-mail asking him this.[/QUOTE]
If it is not being used for games, what good is it to him?
 
If Konami releases MGS4 for the 360, they'll get around $60 from me when I buy it the day it comes out. If they release it only on the PS3, Gamestop or some other local shop will get $15 or $20 of my money for a used copy several years down the road, when the PS3 has dropped in price enough to justify purchasing one. Either way, I'm sure I'll eventually get to enjoy the game, regardless of when my money's spent and who gets it.
 
[quote name='whoknows']If there's an MGS5.

I'm pretty sure I remember Kojima saying MGS4 is the end of the "solid" series. I'm guessing he wants to make a game thats not Metal Gear (ZOE3 plz, thx).[/quote]

"3" was supposed to be the end of the series...
 
Stole this from briankmonkey, cause it made me laugh:


First pic of MGS4 boxart for 360.

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Could you guys please just give this a rest?

He has made it clear what his decision is. If you want to play MGS4, buy a ps3 and shut the f'uck up.

This is really starting to get on my nerves.
 
[quote name='derder']Could you guys please just give this a rest?

He has made it clear what his decision is. If you want to play MGS4, buy a ps3 and shut the f'uck up.

This is really starting to get on my nerves.[/QUOTE]

I know. Remember last gen when the Xbox fanboys said Splinter Cells craps on Metal Gear?

I hate how people get jealous of other good games. If you want all the good games. Buy all the damn systems like I did.

Real games own em all baby!!!

ZOMG!!

I want Halo on PS3 and Zelda on XBOX 360 and Rachet and Clank on WIII!!!

Hideo es liar!!! It will come out for the original gameboy!!!
 
[quote name='derder']Could you guys please just give this a rest?

He has made it clear what his decision is. If you want to play MGS4, buy a ps3 and shut the f'uck up.

This is really starting to get on my nerves.[/QUOTE]

Then stop reading this thread?

What Kojima wants is not necessarily what Konami will want, and it's not necessarily what will happen. People are here to discuss the possibilities. Why is that such a problem for you?
 
[quote name='PRMega']Then stop reading this thread?

What Kojima wants is not necessarily what Konami will want, and it's not necessarily what will happen. People are here to discuss the possibilities. Why is that such a problem for you?[/quote]

It seems like he's upset about the fact that MGS3 might go to Xbox 360... ;)

also, why would you buy a system for $600 to play one game if it' most likely coming out to one you already own? Common sense would tell you...

And if you dont like the discussion, how about not reading the thread?
 
[quote name='dallow']Stole this from briankmonkey, cause it made me laugh:


First pic of MGS4 boxart for 360.

164840--1.jpg
[/QUOTE]

They could trim it down to 1 disc if they cut out all the movies and just let you play the game.
 
[quote name='Strell']They could trim it down to 1 disc if they cut out all the movies and just let you play the game.[/quote]

Yeah, but Kojima doesn't use movies (though I guess theres some sparse full-motion video here and there)
Just LONG cut-scenes.

In which case, he could cut out all the audio.
 
[quote name='Thomas96']Why do people want this game on the 360... it's a Playstation 3 game... 360 got plenty of games and exclusives.. if you want MGS4, then buy Playstation 3...[/QUOTE]

Yeah because all us cheap asses really want to spend $700 on one game! :rolleyes:
 
[quote name='Strell']They could trim it down to 1 disc if they cut out all the movies and just let you play the game.[/QUOTE]

Those two hours would be the best damn game EVAR!
 
[quote name='dallow']Yeah, but Kojima doesn't use movies (though I guess theres some sparse full-motion video here and there)
Just LONG cut-scenes.

In which case, he could cut out all the audio.[/quote]Or use compression instead of keeping it all in... well, whatever the big giant uncompressed format is that's going to fill up the disc. Audio compression is an audiophile's nightmare, but my ears suck anyway, so bring it on.
 
Yeah, zero reason to believe that MGS4 couldn't be done on two DVDs with intelligent texture/audio compression. I'd buy it for sure if it was on 360 on two discs, just like the ORIGINAL MGS was.

The concessions of slightly lower quality audio and textures would be well worth it to save $600 on buying a PS3.

I think it will happen, but not for a while, not until the MGS4 sales fall flat (At least in NA) on the PS3 only release.
 
[quote name='jer7583']

The concessions of slightly lower quality audio and textures would be well worth it to save $600 on buying a PS3.

I think it will happen, but not for a while, not until the MGS4 sales fall flat (At least in NA) on the PS3 only release.[/quote]

yeah and HEY! maybe...JUST MAYBE.....they can water it down even more and port it to PS2 where they have access to 100million userbase!! wouldnt that be even better???? better yet you could just play that game for the price of a PS2!!!! OMGZ:hot:








:roll:


and about the sales falling flat cuz its a PS3 exclusive...does that mean Wii/360 3rd party games will go to PS3 once their sales fall flat too? like lost planet/deadrising/bioshock?
 
[quote name='cargo555']yeah and HEY! maybe...JUST MAYBE.....they can water it down even more and port it to PS2 where they have access to 100million userbase!! wouldnt that be even better???? better yet you could just play that game for the price of a PS2!!!! OMGZ:hot:
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And then maybe, just maybe, we can make pointless arguments that don't add anything at all to the discussion at hand!

Gosh, maybe Kojima could just hand us paper with "MGS4" written on the top in animal piss, and tell us to enjoy our cerebral real-life definition experience!
 
[quote name='Strell']And then maybe, just maybe, we can make pointless arguments that don't add anything at all to the discussion at hand!

Gosh, maybe Kojima could just hand us paper with "MGS4" written on the top in animal piss, and tell us to enjoy our cerebral real-life definition experience![/quote]

Someone once asked me, since I loved Morrissey so much, if I would buy a recording of him simplying belching in the tub.

I said yes. I so would.
 
[quote name='dallow']Someone once asked me, since I loved Morrissey so much, if I would buy a recording of him simplying belching in the tub.

I said yes. I so would.[/QUOTE]

Then have I got a sneak preview disk for you...

Actually, come back in a few hours. I need to go to 7-11 first...
 
[quote name='Apossum']hay guyz wuts goin on in this thread?[/QUOTE]

This is a pornography thread.

We were discussing pornography.
 
[quote name='Strell']This is a pornography thread.

We were discussing pornography.[/quote]

Of the bestial type.
 
[quote name='Thomas96']Why do people want this game on the 360... it's a Playstation 3 game... 360 got plenty of games and exclusives.. if you want MGS4, then buy Playstation 3...[/QUOTE]

For the achievement points, of course.

I'd like it to be on the 360 though because then I can have all 4 MGS games, each on a different console.
 
[quote name='David85']Yeah because all us cheap asses really want to spend $700 on one game! :rolleyes:[/quote]

don't act like you represent cag i am not very active here and i know must users dislike you
 
[quote name='Johnny Postman']For the achievement points, of course.

I'd like it to be on the 360 though because then I can have all 4 MGS games, each on a different console.[/quote]

Because you know, the PS3 won't have some reward system by then.....:roll:
 
[quote name='cargo555']yeah and HEY! maybe...JUST MAYBE.....they can water it down even more and port it to PS2 where they have access to 100million userbase!! wouldnt that be even better???? better yet you could just play that game for the price of a PS2!!!! OMGZ:hot:

:roll:

and about the sales falling flat cuz its a PS3 exclusive...does that mean Wii/360 3rd party games will go to PS3 once their sales fall flat too? like lost planet/deadrising/bioshock?[/QUOTE]

This is kind of a non-issue, considering the sales of Lost Planet and Dead Rising DIDN'T fall flat. I think you'll also find plenty of people who are perfectly happy to have either of those games head over to the PS3, myself included -- then everyone can see they're not such hot shit, frankly.

So why not? Does having the game also come to the 360 (or yes, even the PS2) somehow mean you can't play it on the PS3? No? Then what the fuck is your problem? Are you against any ports from one system to another, or is this just another one of those weird instances of selective memory some fanboys are known for? ("No fair porting DMC4! It started here, so it should stay here ... just like Metal Gear and Final Fantasy! Oh, wait...") I seem to recall many people quite happy when RE4 was announced for the PS2; what's different? It's the same economic situation, right?

Considering how Kojima gave us absolutely no details, you're also welcome to elaborate how it would need to be watered down for the 360, aside from the strong possibility of some half-assed sixaxis support ("Boy, those pressure sensitive buttons sure made MGS3 great!") and probably having to come on two disks ... something that made the first Metal Gear Solid a total piece of shit, I know. :roll:
 
[quote name='panasonic']don't act like you represent cag i am not very active here and i know must users dislike you[/QUOTE]

Hey, man -- there's room for you to both be right.
 
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