Ah, My Favorite Time of Year: Baby Seal Clubbing Season Begins!

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Mar 15, 8:40 PM EST
Canada's Seal Hunt to Get Under Way

By BETH DUFF-BROWN
Associated Press Writer

TORONTO (AP) -- Canada's contentious seal hunt will soon start, the government accounced Wednesday, despite protests by former Beatle Paul McCartney and other animal-rights activists who condemn the killing of the pups as inhumane.

Fisheries and Oceans Minister Loyola Hearn charged that the media had misrepresented the hunt, and said Canada is committed to ensuring the seals are killed by humane methods.

"Canada's harp seal herd is a conservation success story," Hearn said in Ottawa. "We continue our surveillance and monitoring to make sure that Canada's is the most tightly regulated, closely watched and, above all, most humane seal hunt in the world."

Registered sealers will be allowed to kill up to 325,000 pups in the ice floes off the Atlantic when the annual season opens, up from the quota of 320,000 last year, Hearn said.

Aboriginal and Inuit hunters begin the commercial kill in November in Canada's frozen Arctic waters. The spring leg is slated to begin in the Gulf of St. Lawrence next week and move later to an arc about 30 to 40 miles from Newfoundland.

Hearn said Canada's harp seal population is "healthy and thriving" at nearly 6 million, a threefold increase since the 1980s.

McCartney and his wife, Heather Mills McCartney, took to the ice floes in the Gulf of St. Lawrence two weeks ago to frolic with the doe-eyed pups to garner international support to end the hunt. He called the practice a "stain on the character of the Canadian people."

The Humane Society and International Fund for Animal Welfare have posted gruesome videos on their Web sites that show the pups being clubbed to death, some left choking on their own vomit or being skinned alive.

Hearn said these are isolated incidents and federal marine monitors have verified that most of the seal pups that are killed have lost their fluffy white fur as required by law since 1987 and are quickly jabbed through the brain with picks or shot with one quick bullet.

He said fishing communities of Quebec and Newfoundland, whose livelihoods were devastated when the Atlantic cod stocks dried up in the mid-1990s, earn 25 percent to 40 percent of their annual income by selling the seal pelts and blubber for about $70 each.

The pelts used in the fashion industry are mostly sold to Norway, China and Russia. The United States has banned Canadian seal products since 1972 and the European Union banned white baby seal pelts in 1983.

Last spring marked the final season for a three-year federal plan that allowed sealers to take 975,000 seals - most of them harp seals between 12 days and 3 months old.

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I just had to post this story and say it's my favorite time of year. Could anything be more un-PC than baby seal clubbing season?

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When I was in Kauii, we stopped off at one of many, many vantage points along the island. There was a sign there saying that seals (I think) liked to come up to this inaccessible beach and sleep in the sun on the shore. Sure enough, if you looked down the cliff hard enough, you could see two seals sleeping there.

Not sure what the alure of seal hunting is. Is there much of a sport killing them?
 
[quote name='evanft']It compensates for having a small penis, duh.[/QUOTE]

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Quite true.

I loved the Family Guy episode where Peter joins the National Gun Association.
 
Shocking! A conservative being intentionally un-PC. PAD is so devoid of original thought he is now cribbing his personality from 80's T.V shows. I know you miss the Reagan years but let Alex P. Keaton rest.
 
I love how some people can be so prejudice against some animals. Oh no, you can't kill this animal because it's cute. Screw snakes and racoons and all of those ugly animals, but save the baby seals.

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A lot of it has to do with activists picking their battle. The people behind it may oppose all such killings of animals, but they will not get the same public reaction from opposing a snake hunt.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']A lot of it has to do with activists picking their battle. The people behind it may oppose all such killings of animals, but they will not get the same public reaction from opposing a snake hunt.[/quote]
Yup. I think it's funny though how some people can act like they are for animal rights and proper treatment, but when you mention a non-cute animal they don't seem to give a shit.

We took a small poll in the Psychology department in college and most of the people were ademately opposed to experimenting on bunnies, but didn't give a shit about experiments on rats.

I called people prejudice against non-cute animals and went on a short comical rant and a lot of people took serious offense to it.
 
Well, I won't experiment on any animal. Personally though, I'm more opposed to experiments on rats than bunnies. I've had both as pets (though I like rats more), but rats are just much more intelligence than bunnies.

I dropped a class last semester when I found out I was going to have to do experiments on a rat. It wasn't the experiment itself (which involved no pain or suffering), but working with an animal that is kept in unfit conditions and will be euthanized in the end. There was no option to keep the rat, which I've heard some classes do. If that were the case then I could justify mainly on the basis that if I take the class the rat would not be euthanized, while whoever takes it in my place would likely not keep the rat.

Many veterinary univirsities (such as tufts) no longer use animals in classes. When they do they do not engage in anything that can cause harm. One school (forget the name), in an effort to ensure students do not cause harm or damage, used students pets. Anything that would cause harm was carried out on computers, or with donated animal corpses (the veterinary clinic often recieves them when pets die, and will waive final fees if you donate the body).

Though, I think there are a few vet schools that still do traditional animal experiments. I never understood why someone would want to be a veterinarian, and engage in experiments that result in killing animals.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']Well, I won't experiment on any animal. Personally though, I'm more opposed to experiments on rats than bunnies. I've had both as pets (though I like rats more), but rats are just much more intelligence than bunnies.

I dropped a class last semester when I found out I was going to have to do experiments on a rat. It wasn't the experiment itself (which involved no pain or suffering), but working with an animal that is kept in unfit conditions and will be euthanized in the end. There was no option to keep the rat, which I've heard some classes do. If that were the case then I could justify mainly on the basis that if I take the class the rat would not be euthanized, while whoever takes it in my place would likely not keep the rat.[/quote]
Understandable.

Just out of curiosity, how do you feel about rats being fed to pet snakes? Just asking because would you be more willing to experiment on rats in a non-harmful manner if they were to be fed to snakes? Cause then they wouldn't be going to waste. Or what if they would be fed to snakes whether you experimented or not? (Just curious, it's ok to say that you haven't thought about it).

Wow, sorry for going so off topic. 8-[
 
[quote name='GuyWithGun']Understandable.

Just out of curiosity, how do you feel about rats being fed to pet snakes? Just asking because would you be more willing to experiment on rats in a non-harmful manner if they were to be fed to snakes? Cause then they wouldn't be going to waste. Or what if they would be fed to snakes whether you experimented or not? (Just curious, it's ok to say that you haven't thought about it).

Wow, sorry for going so off topic. 8-[[/quote]

No. It is required that snakes be fed something, I understand that. But, considering sizes of other young that are considered acceptable food items, there is really little to no reason to feed an adult anything unless you are dealing with a very large snake. In that case a rat wouldn't be much of a meal. You can easily feed a snake a few prekilled pinkies and a fuzzie (a little more developed, but are often necessary to prevent calcium deficiency) instead of an adult rat. I also simply can't do it because I can't be part of killing a much more intelligent animal to keep alive a much less intelligent one. Even though its sometimes necessary, I can't involve myself in it.

If it was going to be fed anyway then I still couldn't do it, only because I figure that all I'm going to be doing is spending the hour or 2 with the rat a week in class, and then it goes back to whatever cramped space it was in. If I could keep the rat in my care, so it would have a good 3 months of life or whatever the period was, I would probably want to do it. But I would probably try to steal it in the end, which may or may not result in me failing the class.

Though rats (as well as other food that is fed live) are notorious for beating up, even killing, snakes. On rare occasions the snakes actually become the meal. To minimize suffering of the prey, and to protect the snake, only prekilled food should be fed.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']No. It is required that snakes be fed something, I understand that. But, considering sizes of other young that are considered acceptable food items, there is really little to no reason to feed an adult anything unless you are dealing with a very large snake. In that case a rat wouldn't be much of a meal. You can easily feed a snake a few prekilled pinkies and a fuzzie (a little more developed, but are often necessary to prevent calcium deficiency) instead of an adult rat. I also simply can't do it because I can't be part of killing a much more intelligent animal to keep alive a much less intelligent one. Even though its sometimes necessary, I can't involve myself in it.

If it was going to be fed anyway then I still couldn't do it, only because I figure that all I'm going to be doing is spending the hour or 2 with the rat a week in class, and then it goes back to whatever cramped space it was in. If I could keep the rat in my care, so it would have a good 3 months of life or whatever the period was, I would probably want to do it. But I would probably try to steal it in the end, which may or may not result in me failing the class.

Though rats (as well as other food that is fed live) are notorious for beating up, even killing, snakes. On rare occasions the snakes actually become the meal. To minimize suffering of the prey, and to protect the snake, only prekilled food should be fed.[/quote]
Well answered. Thanks.
 
[quote name='usickenme']Shocking! A conservative being intentionally un-PC. PAD is so devoid of original thought he is now cribbing his personality from 80's T.V shows. I know you miss the Reagan years but let Alex P. Keaton rest.[/quote]


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