Al Gore is Captain America

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Al Gore is awesome.

He just said that solar cells follow Moore's law (you know, twice as efficient every couple of years) I'm sure someone here will bookmark this statement - I think it will be interesting to see if he's right.

He is spearheading the whole renewable energy movement.

I'm sure conservatives will rewrite history and pat the backs of businessmen that have followed Gore's lead.

But IMO he will always deserve the credit for pushing for green, pushing for renewable, pushing for fucking over every dictatorship that America cowtows to for oil.

Bush JR., through his incredible ability to fuck absolutely everything up, has certainly earned his place in history. I just hope future generations also hear about Al Gore.
 
I stink that Al Gore should play Captain Planet in a movie. If they wait aa year Bush will have some free time and can even play the bad guy in the movie.
 
[quote name='camoor']Al Gore is awesome.

He just said that solar cells follow Moore's law (you know, twice as efficient every couple of years) I'm sure someone here will bookmark this statement - I think it will be interesting to see if he's right.

He is spearheading the whole renewable energy movement.

I'm sure conservatives will rewrite history and pat the backs of businessmen that have followed Gore's lead.

But IMO he will always deserve the credit for pushing for green, pushing for renewable, pushing for fucking over every dictatorship that America cowtows to for oil.

Bush JR., through his incredible ability to fuck absolutely everything up, has certainly earned his place in history. I just hope future generations also hear about Al Gore.[/quote]


Guilliani will be quoted in the history books as stating "by switching to solar and wind power we were able to help the environment on the scale of 9/11*1,000"
 
Hey, what can I say? He's friggin' awesome. He helped push for the rise of Internet in our lives, and where are we now? Most of us can't last a day w/o going to the computer.

If only he were president... He'd have invented some kind of anti-hurricane machine, a concept so preposterous that it would only take Gore to dream it up. Glavin.
 
sounds like a drunken post...

i dont know if solar panels will double in efficiency every two years, but i do think there will be a time when every home could have a small panel that is much more efficient that the blanket of panels that cover a roof now a days. like remember giant satellite dishes, something akin to that.
 
Lunar Solar Power could provide a permanent source of electricity for the entire planet.

However, the project costs about the same as two years of occupying Iraq and requires 1970s technology.
 
Current panels already have pretty high efficiency. The sun puts out about 1kw per square meter on the surface of the earth. Panels can't produce more energy than is available, and will never been able to achieve 100% efficiency. If Gore wants to say solar tech will double in efficiency over the next couple years, although lofty expectations, that's one thing, but it's literally impossible for them to continue advancing exponentially.


Either his comment was misinterpreted or he's off his rocker.

[quote name='bigdaddy']I stink that Al Gore should play Captain Planet in a movie.[/QUOTE]

I LOL'd so hard here, I feel six.
 
Wow, it's cool being partially related to Captain America.:D I'm being serious here, I am partially related to Al Gore (not by blood, but somewhat out of my Grandma's side of the family).

I'll admit I do like Gore's Environmental plans in ways.
 
Did Gore actually make the Moore's law comment? I watched the softballs Brokaw lobbed at him on Meet the Press and he alluded to solar technology growth being analogous to computer processing power (as moore's law applies), but only when the investment in the technology made it's appeal to the market on the scale that computers are now. He never really said the evolution was identical, only that it could be in the near future with government incentives.
 
One of my favorite Al Gore moments is a fairly under the radar one from 2005. He gave this speech at a media conference in New York:

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8D2IU703&show_article=1

He makes some excellent points, and hell: I just miss the days when we had someone in office would could find Germany on an unmarked map, let alone quote an obscure German philosopher to make a point in a public speech.

So yeah. Captain fucking America, man.
 
[quote name='Heavy Hitter']Yeah, Gore's a great guy. Ask Morris Haddox.

/sarc off[/QUOTE]

Yeah. He probably stole someone's girlfriend in junior high, too. Whatta jerk.
 
[quote name='Jesus_S_Preston']Damn, I wanted to say manbearpig first.

Ass-face.[/quote]

I love you too Shit-fuck :cool: :lol:
 
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[quote name='trq']Yeah. He probably stole someone's girlfriend in junior high, too. Whatta jerk.[/QUOTE]

That's fair to compare that to ruining a guy's life to manufacture a story.

If you want to talk about how great of an environmentalist Gore is, then look at how he did nothing about the pollution of the Caney Fork from the land his zinc holdings reside on. That, and his putting a clog into efforts to clean up the Pigeon Forge river in 88. And his role in the destruction of Shallow Bluff Island?

Gore is one of the most blatant enviro-hypocrites around.
 
[quote name='Heavy Hitter']That's fair to compare that to ruining a guy's life to manufacture a story.[/QUOTE]

Well, I figured that if the level of discourse is one where you ignore that Haddox and Gore have since reconciled, or that Haddox actually *was* using bribes, or that as a junior reporter, the responsibility falls on the editor, or that the real ethical problem is one of reporters working with an entrenched power structure, rather than "ZOMG Gore!" ... then yeah, I'd say digging for juvenile misdemeanors is about where you set the bar.
 
Gore is most likely referring to this:

Dye-coated glass to channel energy into solar cells
http://www.sciencecentric.com/news/article.php?q=08071107

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Can you imagine windows that not only provide a clear view and illuminate rooms, but also use sunlight to efficiently help power the building they are part of Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) engineers report a new approach to harnessing the solar energy that could allow just that. The work, published in the today's issue of Science, involves the creation of a novel 'solar concentrator.'

'Light is collected over a large area and gathered, or concentrated, at the edges,' explains Marc A. Baldo, leader of the work and the Esther and Harold E. Edgerton Career Development Associate Professor of Electrical Engineering. As a result, rather than covering a roof with expensive solar cells, the cells only need to be around the edges of a flat glass panel. In addition, the focused light increases the electrical power obtained from each solar cell 'by a factor of over 40,' Baldo says.

That's pretty amazing, if you could bet on Nobel Prizes (and I got a fin that says you can) the safe money's on these guys.
 
[quote name='Cheese']Gore is most likely referring to this:

Dye-coated glass to channel energy into solar cells
http://www.sciencecentric.com/news/article.php?q=08071107

That's pretty amazing, if you could bet on Nobel Prizes (and I got a fin that says you can) the safe money's on these guys.[/quote]

Meh.

I would have to see an overall cost per kWh under 10 cents to get excited.

I don't see how this advance is better than putting a magnifying glass over an existing solar cell.

I'm looking over their website: http://www.covalentsolar.com/.

Maybe I'll change my mind.
 
[quote name='Cheese']These MIT scientists are fools! THE INTERNET HAS SPOKEN![/quote]

:lol:

It is interesting, but I don't see it as a giant leap forward.

If they were pushing an efficiency increase from ~20% to ~30% for the same cost or durability from 20 years to 40-80 years, that would be awesome.

If a static solar cell array with this dye can outperform a tracking concentrating solar cell array be a large margin, it would do a lot for the solar roof industry.
 
Wait.... How many times more energy does Al Gore's house and lifestyle use versus the average American? Wake me up when it's down to around a factor of 2 or 3 times.....
 
Given that Gore has been seriously comprimised by his dealings with Russia (and probably the Chinese), calling him "Captain America" is breathtakingly stupid and inappropriate.
 
[quote name='Heavy Hitter']Given that Gore has been seriously comprimised by his dealings with Russia (and probably the Chinese), calling him "Captain America" is breathtakingly stupid and inappropriate.[/QUOTE]

al gore doesnt get along with russia and china? sounds like captain america to me.
 
[quote name='RAMSTORIA']al gore doesnt get along with russia and china? sounds like captain america to me.[/quote]

No, he gets along just fine. Cashes their checks, picks up their dry cleaning, allows their ballistic missile tech to advance 35 years in 8 years (Viva Limbaugh!); that sort of thing.
 
He's saying that Gore DID have dealings with Russia and that means he can't be Captain America. Of course he then goes on to rumor-mill something about the Chinese with no actual proof (THE INTERNET: NO PROOF REQUIRED), then says that a guy who A) was in the Army in Vietnam, B) Served in public office for 20+ years, C) was Vice-President, D) Ran for president, winning the popular vote, and D) won a nobel prize, isn't qualified to be compared to a comic book character. Al Gore doesn't love America you understand, his devoting his life to it was a ruse so that he could have 'dealings' with the Russians, y'see he's secretly a Communist (as is RUSSIA, secretly).
 
[quote name='Koggit']Current panels already have pretty high efficiency.
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:dunce:

Yes 14% is really pretty high. I think with the new breakthrews they are up to around 35%! That's pretty high indeed.

:)
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']No, he gets along just fine. Cashes their checks, picks up their dry cleaning, allows their ballistic missile tech to advance 35 years in 8 years (Viva Limbaugh!); that sort of thing.[/QUOTE]


riiiiiight. sometimes i have problems reading words
 
[quote name='RAMSTORIA']riiiiiight. sometimes i have problems reading words[/QUOTE]

Don't sweat it. They weren't very good words.
 
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