Am I wrong, or is it just "Cool" to be a Democrat?

I think most people's views of "today's youth" are shaped by what they see on TV. I mean, let's face it, I have very little interaction with anyone under the age of 18, but I know kids are into Yu Gi Oh, *were* into Pokemon (Now it's cool for the "young" ones), etc. Mucha Lucha, all that.

Much of TV is clearly slanted towards the younger demographic. I just came through it, so I should know. Here is why I understand the perception that it is "hip" to lean to the left -

Because pop-culture TV leans so heavily to the left. Yes, you can probably name one or two Touched By An Angel shows on TV, but the reality is that most TV shows would support the "rights of the mother" above the "rights of the unborn" any day of the week. Every once in a while they will throw a bone to conservatives and have somebody stand in with a differing opinion, but the left's position is NEVER discounted as wrong (while often the "right"'s position is perhaps not called wrong, but clearly portrayed as hokey or old-fashioned).

Quick - name 1 positive fater-figure on a sitcom today.

In a nation that is made of 90% of people who believe in God - name three TV figures who are shown in a positive light and express a belief in God (Touched By An Angel cast counts as 1 - that's one show).

Now, compare that to all the anti-God stereotypes. The former takes a lot longer than the latter.

I had a friend challenge me to name one positive father-figure on a sitcom today. By positive, I mean teaches his kids right and wrong and yes, acts in a conservative manner (doesn't give his kid condoms because he's the "cool" dad who would rather be a friend than a parent). I have to admit - I was hard-pressed.
 
Parties are for suckers.
With that said, I can say I personally know many, many more people considering themselves to be Republican/Conservative than to be a Democrat/Liberal.
 
[quote name='SolinariDotCom'][quote name='chosen1s']
Sometimes there is only one right answer. Hitler was right to try to annihilate the Jews - right or wrong?
[/quote]

It's only wrong based on a general majority rule. It's not really wrong in any cosmic respect. You act like it's infinitely wrong (by default) based on some sort of unwritten rule book.[/quote]

Oh, you mean it is only wrong if you are a moral relativist and there are no absolutes - in which case (yeah, we've all heard this one before) your absolute belief that there are no absolutes holds no water.

If God is real and the Bible is His word (not if you believe in Him, if He is real), then yes, in a cosmic sense Hitler was wrong. If God is real and He says it's wrong to swallow Kool-Ade, then it's wrong. If you are created by Him then He makes the rules of what is right and what is wrong. You can reason through it all you want but as many times as you try to jump off the Earth gravity will always pull you down. Some things just are.
 
[quote name='chosen1s']In a nation that is made of 90% of people who believe in God - name three TV figures who are shown in a positive light and express a belief in God (Touched By An Angel cast counts as 1 - that's one show).[/quote]

Using your give away: Touched By An Angel
Joan of Arcadia
Six Feet Under

And also The Sopranos, although Edie Falco's character, as well as the priest, may be shown in a "negative light" or whatever by your standard.

Are you happy?
 
[quote name='alongx'][quote name='chosen1s']In a nation that is made of 90% of people who believe in God - name three TV figures who are shown in a positive light and express a belief in God (Touched By An Angel cast counts as 1 - that's one show).[/quote]

Using your give away: Touched By An Angel
Joan of Arcadia
Six Feet Under

And also The Sopranos, although Edie Falco's character, as well as the priest, may be shown in a "negative light" or whatever by your standard.

Are you happy?[/quote]

Damn it you stole my post!

Also, you define a positive father-figure as acting conservatively? Hey buddy, I'm a liberal, but I don't define a good father as one that acts liberally. Being a good father is about loving your kid, not teaching him to grow up with certain political beliefs. Want a good example of a positive father-figure on tv? Bill Cosby. More recent? Bernie Mac. Just because he isn't forcing his kids to go to church, doesn't mean he doesn't love and teach them.
 
[quote name='Badgun']Well I find that a lot of the younger kids today believe 3 things:

1. Abortion is cool.
2. Bush is an idiot.
3. There is no God.
[/quote]

Your third contention, that young kids don't believe in a God, is grossly inaccurate. If you'll look at any major college campus across the country, you'll find that there's a hefty number of active Christian and Jewish organizations with large followings. There's not a single college I know of without an active Hillel Society or Fellowship of Christian Athletes prayer group. And, from being someone who has attended various Christian group meetings, I can tell you that most people that participate in these kinds of evens believe very strongly against abortion, homosexuality, etc. Even many women I know, including my most recent girlfriend, believe that women do not have reproductive rights or the right to choose.
 
[quote name='SneakyPenguin']i neverhave to worry about choosing a party, i hate both. im an anarchist, and i think its very uncool to be blindly follow any one party.[/quote]

Totally agree with you, sneakypenguin. How can you already have your mind made up about an issue before you even heard it??? I don't understand how people can be on one side of the fence no matter what the issue is, sounds real dumb to me.
 
[quote name='evilmax17'][quote name='alongx'][quote name='chosen1s']In a nation that is made of 90% of people who believe in God - name three TV figures who are shown in a positive light and express a belief in God (Touched By An Angel cast counts as 1 - that's one show).[/quote]

Using your give away: Touched By An Angel
Joan of Arcadia
Six Feet Under

And also The Sopranos, although Edie Falco's character, as well as the priest, may be shown in a "negative light" or whatever by your standard.

Are you happy?[/quote]

Damn it you stole my post!

Also, you define a positive father-figure as acting conservatively? Hey buddy, I'm a liberal, but I don't define a good father as one that acts liberally. Being a good father is about loving your kid, not teaching him to grow up with certain political beliefs. Want a good example of a positive father-figure on tv? Bill Cosby. More recent? Bernie Mac. Just because he isn't forcing his kids to go to church, doesn't mean he doesn't love and teach them.[/quote]

To put it in more easily readable terms, I think he said:
You got served, son.
Hah!
 
[quote name='Badgun']
I'm 44 and I am a card carrying republican and I'll admit the liberals are getting more scary every day. I absolutely have nightmares about John Kerry in the white house.[/quote]

I really like rock music and I'll admit that rap is crappy.
 
Dem or Repub - the differences are far too minute to quarell over. The real point as that right now the country is broken and it needs a change.
 
[quote name='alongx'][quote name='evilmax17'][quote name='alongx'][quote name='chosen1s']In a nation that is made of 90% of people who believe in God - name three TV figures who are shown in a positive light and express a belief in God (Touched By An Angel cast counts as 1 - that's one show).[/quote]

Using your give away: Touched By An Angel
Joan of Arcadia
Six Feet Under

And also The Sopranos, although Edie Falco's character, as well as the priest, may be shown in a "negative light" or whatever by your standard.

Are you happy?[/quote]

Damn it you stole my post!

Also, you define a positive father-figure as acting conservatively? Hey buddy, I'm a liberal, but I don't define a good father as one that acts liberally. Being a good father is about loving your kid, not teaching him to grow up with certain political beliefs. Want a good example of a positive father-figure on tv? Bill Cosby. More recent? Bernie Mac. Just because he isn't forcing his kids to go to church, doesn't mean he doesn't love and teach them.[/quote]

To put it in more easily readable terms, I think he said:
You got served, son.
Hah![/quote]

Good job. I still contend that the "negatives" grossly outweigh the "positives". Perhaps I am incorrect but I don't think I am.

Also, yeah, Cosby didn't count. I meant on TV today - though I agree that there used to be many "positive" father role models (Full House, that Urkel show, Boy Meets World, basically any of the old TGIF shows).

Finally, Ok, then where are the "conservative" fathers that I would contend are positive for teaching their kids the evils of abstinance until marriage, avoidance of drugs, responsibility, and really, proportionally to our society are there really THAT few Christian fathers?
 
[quote name='chosen1s']Finally, Ok, then where are the "conservative" fathers that I would contend are positive for teaching their kids the evils of abstinance until marriage, avoidance of drugs, responsibility, and really, proportionally to our society are there really THAT few Christian fathers?[/quote]

Haha, yeah, i think that abstinance is evil also :wink:
 
[quote name='chosen1s']
Finally, Ok, then where are the "conservative" fathers that I would contend are positive for teaching their kids the evils of abstinance until marriage, avoidance of drugs, responsibility, and really, proportionally to our society are there really THAT few Christian fathers?[/quote]

How about the dad on Seventh Heaven on the WB. I think that you are jsut watching the wrong shows. Hmm...maybe you should stop watchin all of that Skinemax. \:D/
 
[quote name='edtinney']I'll take this as apology accepted?[/quote]

No, I just chose to ignore your post because I don't think you get it. Jews are not running the media. It is a very dumb thing to say. The fact that you believe that is unbelievable. I was just did not want to have to repeat myself since you obviously missed the point. By the way, I am not Jewish I am Catholic.
 
Yeah, edtinney,

What country do you live in? It is not Ok to hate someone because of their religeon, sexual preference, or race anymore. And more importantly, if you are really forward-thinking it is important to make sure that you do hate someone else once you have judged them to be a racist or racially/politically insensitive. Then, you tear them to shreds and under no circumstances forgive them.

What were you thinking, expecting to be forgiven for a comment that you made which unintentionally offended somebody else (who wasn't even a part of the "offended" group)? For shame. You have been branded. Now go sit at the back of the bus and keep your mouth shut.
 
[quote name='chosen1s']Yeah, edtinney,

What country do you live in? It is not Ok to hate someone because of their religeon, sexual preference, or race anymore. And more importantly, if you are really forward-thinking it is important to make sure that you do hate someone else once you have judged them to be a racist or racially/politically insensitive. Then, you tear them to shreds and under no circumstances forgive them.

What were you thinking, expecting to be forgiven for a comment that you made which unintentionally offended somebody else (who wasn't even a part of the "offended" group)? For shame. You have been branded. Now go sit at the back of the bus and keep your mouth shut.[/quote]

Wow, apparently you can't read very well. I never said that I hated anyone. I also never tore anyone to shreds. Not to mention that I was never offended. I was just pointing out that a comment like "the Jews run all the media" is just plain stupid. The whole reason I brought it up is that he was making some logical arguments in his original post, but then he added the part about Jews controlling media. It tainted what otherwise might have been a decently thought out post.
 
^ Nah he's not talking to you he's talking about the guy who made the comment. Your cool man you must have misread his post.
 
Both parties suck and Bush wins we are going to be screwed for years and years, if Kerry wins we are all going to die. This is why I'm moving to Canada. :)
 
Yeah,

I got on my soapbox a little there. I do think that one side-effect of racial/ethnic sensitivity is that a lot of people have given themselves permission to simply shift the hatred from one group of people to another. Being of a certain "minority" used to be many people's only reason for hating someone. Now I find that a lot of people will accept "appearing to be politically incorrect" as an excuse to hate someone.

I think I read a little more into your response than what you meant, as I interpreted it to be saying that you would never forgive the guy for making a blunder. After all, he never said anything negative about his belief that Jews control the media - being misinformed isn't morally wrong.

Incidentally, since the assertion has been made, do either of you have any specific facts to support your "side"? - Not saying any particular group "runs the media", but since I have heard that argument before is there a preponderance of one group over another who is involved in media? What leads people to believe this?

Thanks, and sorry again for getting up on my soapbox (Yes, it was sarcasm).
 
Thank you chosen1s. I'm glad to see someone understands. As far as backing u my side. I really have no concrete proof, only a conception that seems to have been in place for a long time. I am not familiar personally with those behind the media, but I have seen a lot of Comedy Central, NBC (Seinfeld, friends, etc.), and movies such as Schindler's List and Star Wars (yes, Star Wars, you'll notice many resemblances to Nazis and Jewish Mythology in there) I may have been a little tactless, but I just wanted to interject a widely-held conception to strengthen my point. There is no reason anyone should be offended.
 
edtinney quit while your ahead that last post is so fucking racist that if I had the time I would curse the shit out of you. Luckily for you I don't have the time to run around and destroy you but if you don't stop you gonna be in deep shit.
 
BTW, greendj27 thanks a bunch for helping me with this edtinney guy. You are now one of my permant buddies on this site so if you ever need anything please feel free and ask me.
 
Wow,

I revert back to what I said about people who feel that it's Ok to hate someone as long as they have sufficiently convinced themselves that the person is a racist.
 
I've created a monster!

Wow, this whole forum is charged politcally and morally. I like how when it gets down to it, the forum unites against really bad guys.

=D>
 
Hahaha. Wow. I guess I should be afraid of this Jrunt 20x character. Apparently using a non-offensive reference warrants total destruction. Well, I guess I'll stop, evidently I "gonna be in deep shit" if I don't. Also, I don't have any "buddies" for my videogame site to back me up. It looks like I'm in a hole I just can't dig out of, gosh-golly. I guess I'm going to put on my Jew-kicker boots on and shave my head since I'm obviously such a racist. It's been fun, and relax, life is too short to get all worked up over what some kid said on a chat board on a videogame internet site (whose message really has nothing to do with videogames). So I will now refer back to what the site was made for, finding good deals. Oh, and by the way, fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck. It's a miracle.
 
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