Amazon (and other e-tailers) charging Sales Tax in NY!!!

[quote name='hec204']Don't they already charge us? I've never been able to place an order without tax...[/quote]

I've placed an order with them two days ago... and I wasn't charged tax. :shock:
 
That's the fun thing about living in NY. Move in, know that you will be paying some magnificently high taxes on many things, expect a lot out of your paycheck because your local politicians need to vote on an extra $25K for themselves each year, and prepare for housing assessments to completely screw you over unless you fight like a rabid dog. :)

Not that it can't be a lovely place to live and grow up but...yup, there's a fair share of problems out there. I'd complain about Education but that's mostly a 90-minute rant as to why the Regents Board should have been eliminated as planned during the early- to mid-90's. ;)
 
Legally you actually owe your own state taxes on all things you buy online. Your actually suppose to report what you have bought and pay the sales taxes on all purchases. Its called a use tax, most states don't really try to enforce the law though.
 
Silly NY, don't they know the interblag doesn't exist? It's just a bunch of voices in our heads...with very convincing ideas.
 
I just got the e-mails from Amazon and Newegg saying that beginning of June, they will be collecting taxes on orders from NY.

I don't know about you guys/gals, but those two e-retailers have been my favorite on-line shopping sites. This tax thing gonna change that considerably!

Over the years, coupon codes are drying up like drought, we're happy with a free shipping code here and there. The biggest saving factor now is shipping and taxes really... So, taking away no taxes, we're only left with free shipping :bomb: What does that mean? You can basically go to a local store and buy the stuffs there for the same price! Only saving you gas money i guess, but it does give you instant gratification.

So much for electronics/gadgets... I think my shopping habits gonna change for sure. I think most of my purchase will go to Best Buy, CC, Target etc...
 
Amazon and Newegg save me so much money aside from shipping and tax that ,even if they started taxing NJ, I would still conduct thousands of dollars worth of business with them yearly.

That sucks though for New Yorkers. Its bad enough that most people can't afford necessities right now, so lets jack up everything else to compensate!!!
 
Not for nothing, but even with taxes, places like Newegg and Amazon will still smack most B&M stores in the face when it comes to their regular prices. Do you really want to pay $30, plus tax, on a Blu-ray? Do you want to spend $300 a video card you can get from Newegg for $200?
 
It's not the retailers fault. I live in NY, and a law was changed for this years NYS budget.

The law used be that sales tax could only be charged for an internet retailer based in NYS. The law was changed to any internet retailer with an affiliate in NYS. Since Amazon has the Amazon Marketplace and they have sellers in NY, they have to charge mandatory sales tax. Amazon is suing NYS because of this.
 
[quote name='bigdaddybruce44']Not for nothing, but even with taxes, places like Newegg and Amazon will still smack most B&M stores in the face when it comes to their regular prices. Do you really want to pay $30, plus tax, on a Blu-ray? Do you want to spend $300 a video card you can get from Newegg for $200?[/quote]

Yeah, that's true :)

But still... the no tax and free shipping notion is changed and that's sad.... Less saving and my pay check is more or less the same :(
 
[quote name='Game Over Chump']It's not the retailers fault. I live in NY, and a law was changed for this years NYS budget.

The law used be that sales tax could only be charged for an internet retailer based in NYS. The law was changed to any internet retailer with an affiliate in NYS. Since Amazon has the Amazon Marketplace and they have sellers in NY, they have to charge mandatory sales tax. Amazon is suing NYS because of this.[/quote]

I read the NY Times article on this a while back... Basically, it's total BS on NY's part. The argument is that if the agency "conducted" the sale is physically located in NY, then the retailer has to pay taxes (which collects from the buyers). Amazon's defense is that, that's totally BS, cause #1 they are targeted, the smaller e-retailers are not confined to this BS. #2 it's virtually impossible for Amazon to keep track of those agencies that pushing the sales b/c most of the time it's just some links on the internet!
 
You really can't blame the states for wanting to collect money owed to them. After all, you are suppose to pay taxes on this stuff, anyway. It's called a use tax, and states with sales tax generally have one. No one actually does it, though, and it would cost the states far too much money to actually enforce it. So, they are doing the next thing and trying to force the retailer to collect the money. Whether or not it holds up, though, remains to be seen.
 
i'm not blaming the state for collecting this tax, i welcome it, b/c the money goes to my state do more good anyway (naive thinking, but hey, we should be happy with the firehouses, police protections, public commune etc....)

What i'm pissed is that, my raises are not even covering the inflation rate! At this rate, even a lavish spender like me will cut spendings (Cheapass gaming will be something like Rockbottom gaming). Fortunately, i don't have credit problems. Just that it's pretty tough to save now a day... The only way to save is to cut spending (for me), since everything cost more now and pay check is not getting bigger. On top of things cost same or less, now, we have to pay taxes :(
 
[quote name='jacknicklson']Amazon and Newegg save me so much money aside from shipping and tax that ,even if they started taxing NJ, I would still conduct thousands of dollars worth of business with them yearly.

That sucks though for New Yorkers. Its bad enough that most people can't afford necessities right now, so lets jack up everything else to compensate!!![/quote]

Actually, even if newegg decided to collect NJ taxes, i think you're safe, b/c you can apply for one of those thing:

http://www.newegg.com/Info/ResellerCertificate.aspx
 
Just realized there's another thread on this... thanks for the merge.

As to the recession argument, i won't say we're far from it. Things are tight now. My kids' summer school tuition jumped by a whoopy 20% (from last year, man, that hurts like shit). I just realize myself driving extra blocks to get cheaper gas (something i've never done in my entire 10 something years of driving).

This tax will kill my on-line shopping habit for sure... Definitely a lot less impulsive buys like gold box deals. If R6V2 CE for the X360 is $30 on June 1st, i don't think i'll get it.,,
 
[quote name='mang9432']well... i might as well get my metal gear ps3 at gamestop.[/quote]


Yes, for new releases, it's hardly worth any saving to order from Amazon with the taxes factored in. While BDs are still cheaper, but games, i think local stores win. GSs are almost ubiquitous in NYC. Looks like i might end up renewing my Edge card after all...
 
There's another factor for me not to shop Amazon or other e-retailers when the taxes are in effect. If the prices are similar (say the game is $49.99 in local BB and it's $47.99 shipped from Amazon), the local retailer win again in addition to instant gratitude reasons. Why? You don't have return/price adjust/exchange headaches...

So, the only advantage is saving gas money.
 
[quote name='jacknicklson']Never thought about that. They do tax me because they have a distributor in jersey[/quote]

i guess i just saved you money :)

Even then NJ tax is around 4%, NYC doubles that :(

I use to drive to NJ for big ass purchases (Ikea), but now with the tolls, gas, i don't really want to go there at all. NYC cloth items are tax free (there's a $500 cap i believe), so i don't shop NJ anymore. My last trip the East Brunswick cost me $35 (i did fill up gas before returning to NYC of course, maybe saved me $5).
 
probably not... it doesn't work that way. If Amazon wins, then customers will not have to pay taxes any more (as in NY for example). As to the taxes already collected by the state, the money is good as gone. You know something? The state (NY) has nothing to lose at all... If the state wins, tax is pretty much permanent, if it loses, it pays Amazon with the money it already collect... Pretty sneaky if you ask me.
 
Becuase of this whole thing, I had to do my big purchases now instead of when my stimulus check comes in. $1350 laptop from Newegg and Rock Band for $150. Thanks a lot NY! Now I'm in Cheap Bastard mode. I was going to get Overlord and Lego Indiana Jones next week and now I have to reconsider. And then there's Father's Day. That I refuse to skimp on. Boy is my wallet hurting...
 
Isn't it just going to be NY State sales tax that's charged? If it is, it's only going to be like 4% or so.

I don't like it, but depending on the item, it might still be cheaper on Amazon even with tax included. Same with Newegg...prices are already pretty good, so with tax, prices are still good compared to other retailers. That and neweggs customer service is still awesome.
 
i hate that they raised the toll for the bridges and tunnels. $8 to go to NJ now. i usually dont drive alone anymore when i go CAGing. sucks to be a new yorkers really. i may have to buy my MGS4 ps3 bundle at gamestop b&m.
 
[quote name='superdry']Isn't it just going to be NY State sales tax that's charged? If it is, it's only going to be like 4% or so.

I don't like it, but depending on the item, it might still be cheaper on Amazon even with tax included. Same with Newegg...prices are already pretty good, so with tax, prices are still good compared to other retailers. That and neweggs customer service is still awesome.[/QUOTE]

sales tax for me is 8.75% in ny
 
[quote name='superdry']Isn't it just going to be NY State sales tax that's charged? If it is, it's only going to be like 4% or so.

I don't like it, but depending on the item, it might still be cheaper on Amazon even with tax included. Same with Newegg...prices are already pretty good, so with tax, prices are still good compared to other retailers. That and neweggs customer service is still awesome.[/quote]

I think the tax rate is computed by zip code, so, NYC is 8.75, if you're in NYS, then yeah, most likely 4% or something.

Yeap, the key is depending on the item you're buying... For the gent buying $1200 something laptop, heck, taxes gonna eat up whatever discount offered by Amazon or Newegg.

There's another luxury we lost along the way... Normally, with free shipping and no tax mentality, we pull the trigger right away. Now, you have to do some comparison shoppings. Translation? The few minutes browsing here and there are opportunity cost, i.e. you're not really saving anything...
 
[quote name='Serpentor']i guess i just saved you money :)

Even then NJ tax is around 4%, NYC doubles that :(

I use to drive to NJ for big ass purchases (Ikea), but now with the tolls, gas, i don't really want to go there at all. NYC cloth items are tax free (there's a $500 cap i believe), so i don't shop NJ anymore. My last trip the East Brunswick cost me $35 (i did fill up gas before returning to NYC of course, maybe saved me $5).[/quote]

When did NY drop sales tax on clothes?!? I was unaware of this. Anyway tax is 7% here and 3.5% in "urban development zones" like the ikea, jersey gardens, etc.
 
[quote name='Serpentor']I think the tax rate is computed by zip code, so, NYC is 8.75, if you're in NYS, then yeah, most likely 4% or something.[/QUOTE]

I live in Albany, and my girlfriend in Utica. Tax is from 8% or 8.75%, but I haven't been to any part of the state where tax is 4%.
 
[quote name='jacknicklson']When did NY drop sales tax on clothes?!? I was unaware of this. Anyway tax is 7% here and 3.5% in "urban development zones" like the ikea, jersey gardens, etc.[/quote]

Hes worng theres stil sales tax on clothing here in ny. My sisters always drive to nj when they want to go on a shopping binge to get tax free clothes.
 
[quote name='miktau']Hes worng theres stil sales tax on clothing here in ny. My sisters always drive to nj when they want to go on a shopping binge to get tax free clothes.[/quote]

Thought so because I bought some Air Forces a year ago that I remember being taxed on. Thanks
 
[quote name='PRMega']I live in Albany, and my girlfriend in Utica. Tax is from 8% or 8.75%, but I haven't been to any part of the state where tax is 4%.[/quote]

That's what i figure... the state tax should be one number...
 
[quote name='miktau']Hes worng theres stil sales tax on clothing here in ny. My sisters always drive to nj when they want to go on a shopping binge to get tax free clothes.[/quote]


NYC...NYC!!! Not the same as NYS... Sigh...

http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/business/business_tax_nys_sales.shtml#rates

On items 1-9 above, the City sales tax rate is 4 percent (in addition to the New York State sales and use tax of 4 percent and the Metropolitan Commuter Transportation District surcharge of 0.375%), for a total Sales and Use tax of 8.375 percent.

There is no City sales tax imposed on the purchase of clothing and footwear regardless of the amount. The New York State tax rate of 4.375% (including the Metropolitan Commuter Transportation District rate) was repealed effective April 1, 2006, and the New York City tax rate of 4% was eliminated effective September 1, 2005 for items under $110. For items over $110 the tax was eliminated effective September 1, 2007. More information on the clothing and footwear sales tax exemption is available from the State Web site.

On Item 10 above, the City imposes a 6 percent tax and an additional 8 percent surtax (on parking, garaging, or storing motor vehicles in Manhattan).

If you are a resident of Manhattan and own a motor vehicle registered in the same borough, you may be eligible for an exemption from the additional New York City 8 percent surtax now levied on parking services there. For those who qualify, the tax will be at a rate of 10.375 percent instead of 18.375 percent.
Click to expand...
 
NOO!! :( damn this blows..stupid NY with its insane taxes..i started clothes shopping in CT, its not THAT far...
and yea , i agree with the post about how this has to do with the US $ tanking...at my job, the majority of the customers are italians, french, english, etc...and they buy up like half the store, going how cheap everything is..so yea, we need help
 
Hi all, just a follow up... i haven't bought anything from Amazon since the tax thing. There are a number of time i kinda pause at the end of the checkout process after seeing the TAX amount... Same thing with Neweggs and buy.com (buy.com is a sneaky bastard, i didn't get any e-mails from them about NY taxes, but i see it when i'm about to checkout).
 
Try deepdiscount.com and ebay, I live in NY and have bought many things from ebay and deepdiscount and neither charge tax, deepdiscount is a little slow however at least you don't have to pay tax. You can also try overstock as I know they don't charge sales tax however I am not sure how their selection is for games and whatnot. I have been finding that I can get most games I want on ebay well below retail and they always show up in better condition than expected.
 
DD is still okay in my book, but they don't have good sales on video games. Overstock is on/off, if there's a good promotion (like the PayPal one), their price is okay, but it's very rare to get discount on video games. eBay is hit or miss for me...

recently, i used the 35% Live promotion buying eBay stuffs. Two out of three items i bought listed as NEW, but actually USED. Since they worked and too much hassle setting the record straight, i let them slide... However, i probably not gonna use eBay due to those "exaggerated" descriptions. Seriously, new is not new, wtf?

On the plus side, i haven't spend that money this month on games, lol.
 
I think on ebay your better off just going with something that is used and complete, because if its new they are probably lying or its a re-wrap (or worse yet, you will get filler instead of a game like that one guy who was selling NES and SNES games with just filler in the box), this way it avoids disappointment, opened but new games and possible scams. Its better than buying games from GS where opened and played by employees is considered new. This is provided your buying a game to play it and that you are not a huge sealed game collector. If you buy sealed games from ebay you are taking a risk imo.

The majority of people on ebay who are selling used games are selling them in excellent condition with maybe a few scratches at most, no one wants to deal with a buyer who will be disastisfied due to scratches on a disk especially with the new paypal policies which basically let buyers scam to their hearts content. All the people and kids who scratch up their games usually take them to GS or another store to trade them in, since we all know they take just about anything. I always try to buy from one of the "little guys" who is selling games out of their personal collection and I try to avoid the huge wholesalers that charge outrageous shipper per game. For me its almost like I am supporting a small business and I would rather support that then give my money to one of the big box chains (unless they have an amazing clearance!).
 
[quote name='DrunkTigerWoods']Yea, now there is no incentive to order online. Unless there is a huge price difference, why would I order anything online and have to wait for it to be shipped when I can just go pick it up at best buy? Online retailers are gonna end up losing some business.[/quote]

You aren't serious are you?

Why internet over B&M--so many reasons

1) gas
2) time
3) price protection (yes B&M has this but Amazon is much more likely to drop a price in a 30 day window than B&M on most items)

And forget fighting this, for me in IL we have been required to pay this forever (use tax as previously mentioned). Some people don't turn in the tax forms. . .not me of course ;)

If this goes country wide, you may actually see lower prices at e-tailers to make up for it if sales drop. Not enough to make up for it most likely, but something.
 
Of course shopping on-line still triumph B&M in many cases... Just that factoring taxes, i'm more reluctant to click the PLACE ORDER button. For something i need, i probably don't think about it if the price difference is big enough (like the video card example above). However, for impulsive buys, sorry, most of the time i end up ducking out the final checkout process.
 
Shopping online is great just because the retail stores here have such a limited product selection compared to what you can get online, if you can find something that fits your needs better than whats in the store, your better off buying online even if its a few dollars more plus tax. Not to mention I don't have to fight with pushy sales clerks, listen to warranty spiels when I am not interested in inflating a companies bottom line, and sales clerks that tell me things about the products that clearly are not true. Helps me a lot especially since I am a girl they like to push things on us women, so your saving money, time and aggravation by not having to go through all that. Time is money and I am not listening to a 30 min warranty speech that is all lies about what it covers. Also, often times the online price for an item is STILL much lower than the B&M price even with tax, especially for electronics.

When your shopping for things like digital cameras when new models are constantly coming out your much better off shopping online, when I was shopping for my camera last year I found that all the retail stores had here were outdated models selling for full price and that I could get a much better current model online for a lower price.
 
I use on-line shopping for researches, like camera and stuffs, but whenever i can, i use B&M stores to try out the real deal. Like the HD camcorder, i tried in the CC and BB, got it from Amazon, lol (before the NY tax thing)...
 
I got a camera, a digital camcorder and a PSP + games from Amazon last year so I really have no need to make any major purchases from them this year, and I am really glad I bought all my stuff last year so I don't have to pay tax. I likely won't be replacing the stuff I bought anytime soon either as for what I use it for it should last several years.
 
Yeap, same here... all major purchases are done before the tax thing, man, must saved a ton on taxes! Let's see, a PS3 ($500), HD Camcorder ($900), Canon lens ($500), video games totaling over at least $500.

Either there's nothing i want to buy at the moment or just picky picky... I know Amazon is fighting hard to have the NY tax removed, let's see how far can it go...
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
bread's done
Back
Top