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Hi CAGs

Has everyone here already picked up Bioshock 2?

We've got it on sale for $8. I did a quick search on the forums and didn't see it for any cheaper. You guys have been asking for some AAA titles on sale, as always feedback welcome...does this count?

Cheers,
Tony
 
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Feedback would be to update your other thread rather than create a new one. It's not a bad price and the cheapest I've seen it otherwise was $5 through Gamestop a while back.

This reminds me I still need to go back and beat it after picking it up. >_
 
Be fair, it's not that old. Most people have at least heard of the game, and it's not a bad price.
 
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It was $4.99 on Steam in July, here's a handy bookmark: http://www.steamgamesales.com/view-history.php?id=90

Having said that, it's a terrific game for $8. The Little Sister standoffs are a great twist on the BioShock formula.

Regarding the separate thread thing... I'm opposed to a non-wiki'ed thread dedicated to all Amazon DD games. There are just too many deals that pop up irregularly that it becomes a chore to check a single massive thread.

I like separate threads for separate deals. It saves me a lot of time.
 
Tony, Thanks for the heads up. I picked up Bioshock II a while back, but if that was not the case I would have jumped on this deal.



I seems to me that whenever the Amazon Rep comes here to make an announcement, some folks try to give him good constructive feedback (i.e. you should offer smaller less expensive bundles) but a lot of people jump on him and give him a cold shoulder (i.e. every game in your list is crap). Amazon is a business and they need to make money. For me they have always been a pleasure to deal with, and I have always received top notch customer service from them. I am not criticising my fellow CAG members, but as of this post Bioshock II is 19.99 on Steam and 7.98 on Amazon. That is a good deal. Amazon isn't steam and just because Bioshock II was 4.99 for one day on steam six months ago doesn't mean Amazon needs to offer it at the exact same price now. From what I have seen, Tony has been bending over backwards to respond to feedback and has been trying to make us happy. I think the guy deserves some slack. He may or not be a "gamer," but I think we need to keep our expectations realistic and remain positive as we try to help him out. I think that Tony can be a wonderful resource for us on cag, but his job is to make money for his employer. He can't and shouldn't give us ultra-super-fantastic bargain basement prices on every AAA title Amazon has. As far as I know, Amazon is the only large game retailer that takes the time to come and work with us, and we should thank them. I'm pretty sure you'll never see a Wal-Mart or Gamestop representative show up here.

 
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[quote name='wageslave']As far as I know, Amazon is the only large game retailer that takes the time to come and work with us, and we should thank them. I'm pretty sure you'll never see a Wal-Mart or Gamestop representative show up here.[/QUOTE]

You've got SHC-Gamer doing an impressive job of representing Sears/K-mart. I wouldn't go so far as to make the assumption that Wal-mart or Gamestop will never send a representative through here. All it takes is one employee to sign up for a free account on these boards and those companies would then have a presence here as well.
 
[quote name='Amazon DVG Deals']Hi CAGs

Has everyone here already picked up Bioshock 2?

We've got it on sale for $8. I did a quick search on the forums and didn't see it for any cheaper. You guys have been asking for some AAA titles on sale, as always feedback welcome...does this count?

Cheers,
Tony[/QUOTE]

Thank you so much for effort, but I think you should monitor the Steam deals more often through here and various price tracking websites.
BioShock 2 was $4.99 this summer on Steam and a lot of people prefer games on their Steam account.

Solid deal for a decent game. Bioshock 2 really doesn't do anything new compared to the first one, but if you want more Bioshock this game is just for you.
I liked Bioshock, but I never enjoyed Bioshock 2. It just felt like a huge expansion.
 
[quote name='sherisdoppel']
Solid deal for a decent game. Bioshock 2 really doesn't do anything new compared to the first one, but if you want more Bioshock this game is just for you.
I liked Bioshock, but I never enjoyed Bioshock 2. It just felt like a huge expansion.[/QUOTE]

I just finished the game (and Minerva's Den) last week and I thought the addition of dual wielding a gun and plasmid alone makes it a more enjoyable game then the first one. The little sister protection stuff was also fun, wish I bought the protector DLC during the last time it was on sale on XBLA, maybe next time.
 
My problem isn't the steam deal, my problem is that I can buy a physical copy, in like new condition, from AWD for $7.49.

Digital should probably be cheaper than physical copies. That would be a starting point to winning over some more stubborn people.

Oh, it's PC, it should be even cheaper than I thought then.

I'm editing because this game is definitely worth 8 bucks. If you want it on your pc and didn't get the steam deal you should get this.
 
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[quote name='Geello']Feedback would be to update your other thread rather than create a new one.
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Agreed. Tony, you got 4 threads on our first page which are all new. They are going to start to pile up. Just make one thread and keep updating first post/thread title from there.
 
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I seems to me that whenever the Amazon Rep comes here to make an announcement, some folks try to give him good constructive feedback (i.e. you should offer smaller less expensive bundles) but a lot of people jump on him and give him a cold shoulder (i.e. every game in your list is crap). Amazon is a business and they need to make money. For me they have always been a pleasure to deal with, and I have always received top notch customer service from them. I am not criticising my fellow CAG members, but as of this post Bioshock II is 19.99 on Steam and 7.98 on Amazon. That is a good deal. Amazon isn't steam and just because Bioshock II was 4.99 for one day on steam six months ago doesn't mean Amazon needs to offer it at the exact same price now. From what I have seen, Tony has been bending over backwards to respond to feedback and has been trying to make us happy. I think the guy deserves some slack. He may or not be a "gamer," but I think we need to keep our expectations realistic and remain positive as we try to help him out. I think that Tony can be a wonderful resource for us on cag, but his job is to make money for his employer. He can't and shouldn't give us ultra-super-fantastic bargain basement prices on every AAA title Amazon has. As far as I know, Amazon is the only large game retailer that takes the time to come and work with us, and we should thank them. I'm pretty sure you'll never see a Wal-Mart or Gamestop representative show up here.

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Thank you for saying what needed to be said. People need to lay off on Amazon/Tony for not being steam.

People are complaining that Amazon is not selling Bioshock 2 for $5 because Steam had it at that price in july but ironically Amazon had Bioshock 2 for $5 back in december 2010. This was $8 cheaper then Steam had it during their holiday sale. It took Steam almost 5 months to match this price but Amazon does not get any credit for this.

On a similar note Robin Hood: the legend of Sherwood is currently on sale for $2.99 and the cheapest it has been on steam has been $7.99.
 
[quote name='Rerujnoc']Thank you for saying what needed to be said. People need to lay off on Amazon/Tony for not being steam.

People are complaining that Amazon is not selling Bioshock 2 for $5 because Steam had it at that price in july but ironically Amazon had Bioshock 2 for $5 back in december 2010. This was $8 cheaper then Steam had it during their holiday sale. It took Steam almost 5 months to match this price but Amazon does not get any credit for this.

On a similar note Robin Hood: the legend of Sherwood is currently on sale for $2.99 and the cheapest it has been on steam has been $7.99.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the note guys, I do appreciate the feedback though. This feedback, coupled with a look at how our customers respond is exactly what I need to help figure out what to do to bring you all the deals you want.

Sounds like some of you think that Bioshock 2 at $8 is a decent deal, others disagree due to past promotional activity. Would this type of promotion be more attractive in a bundle with other 2K games? If so what games?

Cheers,
Tony
 
Really?... people are complaining that $8 isn't cheap enough for BioShock 2? W...T...F... It's a more than fair price for BioShock 2. Doesn't matter what prices were before because ATM Amazon has the best price. Unfortunately a lot of CAGs feel that once a game hits a certain sale price all future sales must be at that price or lower. Don't take them too seriously... we want you around and helping us out. :)



The one suggestion I have is this... If you want to bundle then great, but try to bundle the way GOG.com does and allow me to pick and choose the offered games. Say you're offering five games for 75% off, but I already own 3 of them. Allow me to uncheck the three I already own and buy the two I don't for say 50% instead.



This "pushes" those that only want one game to buy all 4... while also giving others that already own some of the games a chance to get in on the deal without spending more than they have too.



Not sure if you're even able to do that, but that's one of the reasons I started giving my money to GOG. I get in on some great sales, but can also avoid any "double dips".
 
$8 Is fine, I just picked it up again from Amazon over the weekend for that price. Assassins Creed 1 is also around $8.

Tony if you are asking for more attractive deals I think the most any of us could ask for is that you try to keep the digital version of any game cheaper than the hard copies.

Also a sale on Street fighter 4 AE would rock :)
 
[quote name='teknomedic']Really?... people are complaining that $8 isn't cheap enough for BioShock 2? W...T...F... It's a more than fair price for BioShock 2. Doesn't matter what prices were before because ATM Amazon has the best price. Unfortunately a lot of CAGs feel that once a game hits a certain sale price all future sales must be at that price or lower. Don't take them too seriously... we want you around and helping us out.
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Absolutely. Tony clearly doesn't want to hear any negative viewpoints, and he certainly won't benefit from hearing a wide range of community opinions. Presenting other download sites as benchmarks for Amazon's download service is completely unfair, for many, many reasons that teknomedic and I don't want to state.

And as for you naysayers who prefer sale prices to get progressively lower, you're idiots. Sale prices should get progressively higher, to punish those who missed them before, and to add value to our game collections.

Thank you teknomedic for saying what needs to be said.

In fact, I think you said a little more than you intended...
[quote name='teknomedic']Doesn't matter what prices were before because ATM Amazon has the best price.[/QUOTE]
Indeed they do... $6.50. ;)

Some non-sarcastic feedback, now, Tony: as download games have no resale value or physical value, and are generally tied to a single person/account, I would personally prefer them to be cheaper than their boxed counterparts. (Although in this case, Bioshock 2 is plagued with GFWL, so it's tied to a single person/account whether boxed or downloadable)

And once again, thanks for being here.
 
@ PengquinJim... I never said that Tony should be shielded from negative viewpoints... in fact bring them on. What I was saying is that all the whining about $8 being too much for BS2 was ridiculous.

Unfortunately your "$6.50" sale price doesn't consider the shipping cost which adds about $5 to the price (unless you break the $25 barrier or have Prime... which also costs money).

How is presenting other download sites unfair? Explain this to me?? If he wants ideas on how to better run the Amazon download site why not show what other sites have done? That's a little like saying it's unfair to compare Target to Wal-Mart.

Finally... and again... just because a game was on sale for $5 doesn't mean that every place on then net must now sell that game at that price indefinitely... but I also never said anything close to... "And as for you naysayers who prefer sale prices to get progressively lower, you're idiots. Sale prices should get progressively higher, to punish those who missed them before, and to add value to our game collections."...

I'm really not sure why you felt the need to call me out though.
 
[quote name='teknomedic']Really?... people are complaining that $8 isn't cheap enough for BioShock 2? W...T...F... It's a more than fair price for BioShock 2. Doesn't matter what prices were before because ATM Amazon has the best price. Unfortunately a lot of CAGs feel that once a game hits a certain sale price all future sales must be at that price or lower. Don't take them too seriously... we want you around and helping us out. :)



The one suggestion I have is this... If you want to bundle then great, but try to bundle the way GOG.com does and allow me to pick and choose the offered games. Say you're offering five games for 75% off, but I already own 3 of them. Allow me to uncheck the three I already own and buy the two I don't for say 50% instead.



This "pushes" those that only want one game to buy all 4... while also giving others that already own some of the games a chance to get in on the deal without spending more than they have too.



Not sure if you're even able to do that, but that's one of the reasons I started giving my money to GOG. I get in on some great sales, but can also avoid any "double dips".
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Really appreciate the posts and feedback. It is about 2:30 here and I'm about to head to bed. That being said, we're definitely experimenting with the bundling while allowing customers to purchase a la carte (still discounted).

You can see how we're implementing this in our Deal of the Week thread.

Take a look at the selection and layout and let me know what you think!

Cheers,
Tony
 
[quote name='hal']It was $4.99 on Steam in July, here's a handy bookmark: http://www.steamgamesales.com/view-history.php?id=90[/QUOTE]
[quote name='sherisdoppel']Thank you so much for effort, but I think you should monitor the Steam deals more often through here and various price tracking websites.
BioShock 2 was $4.99 this summer on Steam and a lot of people prefer games on their Steam account.[/QUOTE]
[quote name='teknomedic']Really?... people are complaining that $8 isn't cheap enough for BioShock 2?[/QUOTE]
[quote name='teknomedic']How is presenting other download sites unfair? Explain this to me?? If he wants ideas on how to better run the Amazon download site why not show what other sites have done? That's a little like saying it's unfair to compare Target to Wal-Mart.[/QUOTE]
Well make up your mind! Are we allowed to compare Amazon prices to other sites or not?! Here I am, trying to support you in your interesting views, and you keep flip-flopping! Still, thank you for admitting that you were wrong. Your apology is accepted. :)
(For anyone interested in Bioshock 2: it's a sloppy sequel encumbered with GFWL and probably not worth $8 unless you've got nothing else left to play/replay)
 
Alright ... you guys want irony ... I bought this exact game ... from Amazon on December 23, 2010 ...

How much did I pay?

$5

So those of you saying $8 is a great price ... not so much.

Sorry Tony, I do appreciate you being here, but Amazon needs to be aware that CAGs are some of the shrewdest ... and cheapest ... buyers online, so price tracking is very common. Just wanted to throw in my two cents because this argument is a bit ridiculous, especially when Amazon previously sold this exact download for less.
 
[quote name='etcrane']Alright ... you guys want irony ... I bought this exact game ... from Amazon on December 23, 2010 ...

How much did I pay?

$5

So those of you saying $8 is a great price ... not so much.

Sorry Tony, I do appreciate you being here, but Amazon needs to be aware that CAGs are some of the shrewdest ... and cheapest ... buyers online, so price tracking is very common. Just wanted to throw in my two cents because this argument is a bit ridiculous, especially when Amazon previously sold this exact download for less.[/QUOTE]

I see what you are saying ectrane, and appreciate your point of view. I will take it into consideration as I vet what I bring this group. My approach has been just to try and make you all aware of as much as possible and let you decide what to take advantage of.

Thanks again guys, like I said, your continued feedback helps steer how I interact with you!

Cheers,
Tony
 
Most people here will spaz because they can't flip something to another store for profit if it's digital. I think Tony is doing well and on the right track. I do think the DD price should at least be equal to your offered price for the boxed copy if not a bit lower.

Amazon is doing well so far in the DD market. keep tweaking things and I'll keep buying the good deals here and there like I have been.
 
My feedback: I'm a CAG who if I see a deal for a certain price, the game and/or deal is tainted for me unless offered at that best price. For example, Amazon did a lightning deal of Tiger Woods Move bundle for $49.99. Even thought that's an extreme discount id be willing to wait or never purchase unless I got it for that price.

As for the posting, keep creating threads for new deals. There's no rule here that say you have to create a monster thread and I have no interest in seeing post 1 updated and then having to go to post 732 to see what fellow cags think. If it's a deal, it deserves a thread.
 
[quote name='teknomedic']I think PenquinJim is on meth.... can someone else chime in... am I missing something?[/QUOTE]
I think your points were fair, but he took your words to the extreme... To me, you were just trying to stress the importance of constructive criticism versus normal criticism/complaining I think. We do not want to scare/piss off vendors from coming here and trying to work with us to get better deals.

Also not sure why he singled you out as many people had similar sentiments... this is a good price (yes, not the best price ever on it, but a good price anyway).

As for the game itself, I think it is better than the first one, but I enjoyed the first one more b/c it was more original (obviously b/c it came out first). Definitely a good game with just enough changes to keep it fresh.
 
I also think that if it is a DIGITAL copy, that it should be less than the physical copy no matter what.
I always prefer physical copies to digital b/c I just like to collect things.

Only way that I will get a digital copy over physical is if prices are WAYYYY cheaper than a physical copy (Steam Summer Sales I'm looking at you)

Other than that, this is a fair price.
 
[quote name='Amazon DVG Deals']Thanks for the note guys, I do appreciate the feedback though. This feedback, coupled with a look at how our customers respond is exactly what I need to help figure out what to do to bring you all the deals you want.

Sounds like some of you think that Bioshock 2 at $8 is a decent deal, others disagree due to past promotional activity. Would this type of promotion be more attractive in a bundle with other 2K games? If so what games?

Cheers,
Tony[/QUOTE]

Personally I rarely buy large bundles. I might buy say a Bioshock 1 +2 combo, but the bundles usually consist of a bunch of titles i either already have or don't want. I know they are popular with some crowds, but i prefer the lower priced individual game that i want or kind of want to the everything in a basket approach myself.
 
[quote name='Amazon DVG Deals']Thanks for the note guys, I do appreciate the feedback though. This feedback, coupled with a look at how our customers respond is exactly what I need to help figure out what to do to bring you all the deals you want.

Sounds like some of you think that Bioshock 2 at $8 is a decent deal, others disagree due to past promotional activity. Would this type of promotion be more attractive in a bundle with other 2K games? If so what games?

Cheers,
Tony[/QUOTE]

Tony, you are the expert but here is what I would probably do if I was in your position: If I couldn't or didn't want to lower the price on Bioshock 2 any further but still wanted to move more copies, I would offer Bioshock 2 for the $8.00 and also throw in a somewhat older game that received decent reviews but isn't selling well any more. I'll use Cryostasis as an example. Now that this is a "bundle" people can't really make a direct comparison to past rock bottom price deals. Since Cryostasis received decent reviews the argument that "Bioshock is the only game worth playing" isn't particularly strong, and people will feel like they are getting value for the money. I don't know how much more it would cost you to throw in the second game, but I'm sure you get the idea. Of course there will always be an odd troll or two who will end up thread crapping. :roll:
 
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[quote name='wageslave'] That is a good deal. Amazon isn't steam and just because Bioshock II was 4.99 for one day on steam six months ago doesn't mean Amazon needs to offer it at the exact same price now. [/QUOTE]

[quote name='Rerujnoc']
People are complaining that Amazon is not selling Bioshock 2 for $5 because Steam had it at that price in july but ironically Amazon had Bioshock 2 for $5 back in december 2010. [/QUOTE]

Is this Cheap Ass Gamer or Kiss Ass Gamer?

I'm not sure if you were talking to me or not since you didn't quote, but generalized about a point I brought up. But I wasn't complaining or trolling Tony. In fact, he stated he wasn't sure if the game had been lower. My comments were polite and completely on topic.

This site is all about finding the very best deals around and that may include data that states a price has been lower - and therefore may be lower again. I don't like feeling chastised because I'm being a Cheap Ass Gamer. If you were talking to someone else, sorry. Maybe use quotes next time.

Anyhow, as Tony pointed out, honest feedback is welcome. No one is trying to ruin his business. Amazon's a great site and the fact that they're making an effort to understand how to grab a piece of the DD game pie is awesome. Competition is welcome and they're certainly gaining a portion of my business.
 
[quote name='Amazon DVG Deals']Would this type of promotion be more attractive in a bundle with other 2K games?[/QUOTE]

Just giving my own 2 cents. Personally I very rarely buy game bundles, because it's almost always cheaper to select the games I know I want and buy only them. On top of that, I usually own several of the best games that are included in the bundle, making them even less appealing.

I prefer the solo deals, and think this price for Bioshock 2 is pretty solid. Even if there has been a deal in the past for less, as it stands now it seems to be the best price out there, and Amazon has had it for less more consistently than anyone else. Personally I appreciate that kind of consistency, it's not a one day thing that I miss out on or have to decide on the spot, and it doesn't mean that those on the spot deals can't come later. So I think it's a solid offer, just perhaps not so thread-worthy on it's own.
 
[quote name='teknomedic']Really?... people are complaining that $8 isn't cheap enough for BioShock 2? W...T...F... It's a more than fair price for BioShock 2. Doesn't matter what prices were before because ATM Amazon has the best price. Unfortunately a lot of CAGs feel that once a game hits a certain sale price all future sales must be at that price or lower. Don't take them too seriously... we want you around and helping us out. :)



The one suggestion I have is this... If you want to bundle then great, but try to bundle the way GOG.com does and allow me to pick and choose the offered games. Say you're offering five games for 75% off, but I already own 3 of them. Allow me to uncheck the three I already own and buy the two I don't for say 50% instead.



This "pushes" those that only want one game to buy all 4... while also giving others that already own some of the games a chance to get in on the deal without spending more than they have too.



Not sure if you're even able to do that, but that's one of the reasons I started giving my money to GOG. I get in on some great sales, but can also avoid any "double dips".
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Really? You desperately want people to pay attention to you so you wrote in an annoying bright ass white and different font? Whenever people do this I just scroll down. Thanks for being such a waste of space to the thread
 
[quote name='hal']Is this Cheap Ass Gamer or Kiss Ass Gamer?

I'm not sure if you were talking to me or not since you didn't quote, but generalized about a point I brought up. But I wasn't complaining or trolling Tony. In fact, he stated he wasn't sure if the game had been lower. My comments were polite and completely on topic.

This site is all about finding the very best deals around and that may include data that states a price has been lower - and therefore may be lower again. I don't like feeling chastised because I'm being a Cheap Ass Gamer. If you were talking to someone else, sorry. Maybe use quotes next time.

Anyhow, as Tony pointed out, honest feedback is welcome. No one is trying to ruin his business. Amazon's a great site and the fact that they're making an effort to understand how to grab a piece of the DD game pie is awesome. Competition is welcome and they're certainly gaining a portion of my business.[/QUOTE]


My comment was not directed at you. You gave some good feedback. It was more of a comment on some of peoples' reactions across all of Tony's threads. Overall this thread has had a lot of good comments and feedback.

I have bad memories on how CAG treated Jason from GoGamer. Every time he posted one of his 48 hour madness deals the thread would fill up with people whining and had very little discussion about the deals. I just don't want the Amazon threads to become like that.
 
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