Amazon Trade-In FAQ 5.0

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Welcome to the Official CAG Amazon.com Trade-In Thread

THIS IS NOT A FLIPPING THREAD. USEFUL CREDIT TRANSFER OPPORTUNITIES WELCOME, BUT KEEP THE PROFIT MARGIN TALK / SNEAKY OR LYING SHENANIGANS OUT

Hey trade-in pals! SENDING THINGS IN DISC / CARTRIDGE ONLY / GENERIC CASE NO MANUAL / ANYTHING BUT COMPLETE COULD RESULT IN REJECTION. THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS TO THIS. YOU MIGHT GET ACCEPTED, YOU MIGHT NOT. NO ONE KNOWS. IF YOU CUT OUT A UPC OR DO ANYTHING TO TRICK THE FINE(?) FOLKS AT AFS EXPECT IT TO BE OPENED AND REJECTED. THERE ARE NO HARD AND FAST RULES. IF IT IS ACCEPTED, IT WILL ALMOST CERTAINLY ONLY BE CONSIDERED "ACCEPTABLE." RISK YOUR TIME AND EFFORT AT YOUR PERIL!

I'm getting an acceptance rate of about one per day; it makes me think some supervisor is standing around with a glass of absinthe next to a couple of dumptruck loads of games...while the one responsible for the glitch is made to scan each item and recite its TIV with tears in their eyes. - Indigo_Streetlight
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Amazon.com Trade-in Home Page

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Useful links:

-- BlueLobstah

-- CheapAssGamer

THANKS TO DISILLUSION386 and GI60 FOR POSTING AND MAINTAINING THE PREVIOUS AMAZON TRADE-IN FAQ THREADS

This thread’s primary purpose is to discuss Amazon.com’s video game trade-in program. Conspiracy theories about AFS smashing games before sending them back / stealing children / sneezing and touching public door handles / etc welcome, but try to avoid going nutso. PLEASE READ THE TRADE-IN DEAL DETAILS AND FAQ BEFORE ASKING ANY QUESTIONS.
Trade-In Procedure

1. SELECT ITEMS: Search for items to trade in. Your trade-in items must meet the product eligibility criteria.
2. SHIP GAMES FREE: Print a shipping label and packing slip, package your games, and ship them
3. GET A GIFT CARD: An Amazon.com Gift Card will be deposited into your account upon receipt of games

Shipping Instructions

1. Print this entire page. (Packing slip and shipping label once you have submitted a trade)
2. Cut out the shipping label and the packing slip.
3. Make sure your items are in good working condition and include the case and cover art.
4. Securely pack the items in a box or envelope and include the packing slip in the package.
5. Attach the shipping label squarely onto the outside of the package and add your return address.
6. Take it to your nearest UPS Store and mail it by (one week from submission of trade)
7. Or you can ship to:
note to self: look up new address
Trade-In Product Eligibility

Trade-in items must match the exact version displayed in the Amazon Trade-In Store, not be damaged, include original packaging (e.g. the manual, cover art, and case), and be postmarked no later than 7 days after submission. You will receive an e-mail confirmation and an Amazon.com Gift Card will be deposited into your account within 2 business days of item receipt and verification by the merchant. Items not accepted by the merchant will be returned to you approximately 14 days after receipt.
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GENERAL FAQ (Updated 12/26/2012)
Can I post a question on this thread?
Only if you can't find the answer from below. And please let me know if it needs to be added to FAQ.

Can I edit this FAQ? (updated 6/7/11)
You bet!

Since when did Amazon start doing trades?
The program began in 2009 and is handled by a third party merchant, previously known as NorAm International. Now known as AFS (Amazon Fulfillment Services).

What kind of shipping does Amazon provide us?
Free UPS ground ---- USPS is no longer available for free. There is now also an option to provide your own shipping.

Do I have to provide my own box or envelope?
Yes.

Do all my games in the same trade-in submission have to be shipped in the same box? (updated 3/9/11)
Not necessarily - people have sent in multiple boxes for the same trade-in submission successfully. It's even possible to send half at one time and the other half at the end of the valid shipping period. However, it's probably best to always ship everything at once.

Can I put separate trades in to a single box? (updated 6/7/11)
Sure, and they'll likely be accepted just fine. However, it isn't recommended since you would only have proof that you sent one of the trades (whichever mailing label you used). So it can be pretty risky.

Can I send in sealed games?
Yes. They won't reject games that still have the original shrink wrap.

Can I add Delivery Confirmation and Insurance to my shipment?
UPS Ground already provides you with tracking information, and I imagine you could get some sort of insurance added at a UPS store or location if you were so inclined.

I don't trust UPS ground. Can I pay for postage myself? What's the address?
Yes. You're more than welcome to do so. Just use the address on the amazon provided shipping label and make sure to get some sort of tracking.

When do I have to send my games once I have submitted my trade order?
You have 1 week (7 days) to send your games. There have been reports of submitting trades up to 15 - 20 days late, but that is definitely ymmv and not in the written rules. Send on time for the best chance at success!

Crap, I have one day to go before my shipment deadline, but the website states that my deadline has already passed. How do I print out a shipping label and packing slip? (Updated 9/9/13)
Load up any existing order (if you don't have any, check your browser's history or just submit a new one to use the link), and substitute the transaction ID for the trade-in order you need at the end of the URL.

Some step by step directions:
1. Go to your trade-in page on Amazon and find the Trade-In ID of the transaction:

Trade-In Placed:

August 24, 2013

  • Total Amount Submitted: $35.00
  • Amount Paid: $0.00
2. Copy the entire Trade-In ID (i.e. TRN-1234567-1234567) to your clipboard by highlighting it and hitting Ctrl+C or right click -> copy with your mouse

3. Paste the Trade-In ID to the end of this link:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/tradein/multicondition-your-account/print-label/ref=trdrt_ya_yaprnt?ie=UTF8&orderID=

So it should look like this:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/tradein/multicondition-your-account/print-label/ref=trdrt_ya_yaprnt?ie=UTF8&orderID=TRN-1234567-1234567

The Print Shipping Label screen for that trade should now come up.

How long does the whole trade-in process usually take?
From the time you send in your games, it may take up to 14 business days for the package to arrive. Most people usually receive their credit (Amazon GiftCard) in 3 to 5 business days, however.

How long does the "processing" status usually take? (Updated 10/11/12)
Usually a day or two with little delay at all. It may take multiple days or even weeks if it's an usual item/hardware.

My games were received on Friday (based on Delivery Confirmation), will I have to wait until Monday to receive credit?
People have received credit on a Saturday.

I do not have the manual, cover art, or original case for a game I want to trade in. Will they accept it? (updated 6/9/11)
While the details specifically state that original packaging is necessary, people have reported in the past that their trades were accepted despite missing some of these. This is extremely YMMV, however since some were also rejected by missing manual or cover art. On the other hand, older gen games; such as SNES, N64, and GB cartridges, normally get accepted without the original box and manual, but still YMMV.

It should be noted that with the new condition requirements (see later in the FAQ), you may be able to send an item in missing some or all of the required items (manual / cover art / case) and still have it accepted in "Acceptable" condition.

I do not have the manual, accessories, original box, original included game, etc for a console or accessory I want to trade in. Will they accept it? (updated 3/9/11)
The current wisdom is "probably not" - it's pretty YMMV but AFS seems stricter than they should be on this. Your chances seem to be better for them accepting a console or accessory without the box / manual / etc if it's older generation or rare. You're more than welcome to give it a shot though if you're feeling lucky - just pack it well and include as much as you can! Don't expect greater than 'acceptable' condition though.

My game is really beat up, what are the chances they’ll accept it?
This is YMMV. Some people have reported in the past that they sent in games in bad shape that were still accepted. Your best bet is still to trade in games in mint condition. Minor scratches are expected as these are used games.

My game came with DLC codes and I used them. Will my game be accepted? (Updated 12/28/11)
It is expected that included DLC codes have already been redeemed, so you should be fine. It is a kindness however if you have no use for it to not redeem it and let the next lucky soul who buys it from awd or wherever have a crack at it. Up to you!

My cover art (PLATINUM HITS) differs from the pic on amazon, will my trade be accepted?
It all depends on the UPC so just turn your game around, type in the UPC into the amazon search box. If the game comes up, then it's accepted regardless of cover art. Click on that result to submit your trade.

I have a game from a limited edition bundle, will they accept it?
If the game’s cover art has a UPC barcode, they will most likely accept it. If your game's cover states "Not for Resale" and does not have a UPC barcode, the game will most likely get rejected. Some people have had their games accepted in the past, but this is very YMMV.

The UPC barcode is not intact on my game's cover art, will that be accepted? (updated 3/9/11)
This is YMMV, but probably not. The UPC is all powerful within the walls of AFS..

I sent in my games, all of which were in pristine condition with the original packaging, but they said that one game is damaged and is now being returned.
Always pack your games well. Put a lot of newspaper around your games in the box to secure them and to prevent any damages from haphazard box cutting. People in the past have requested their entire trade-in order if it’s obvious the damage wasn’t their fault, and Amazon ended up accepting the rejected game. This is YMMV as well.

Can I trade in multiple copies of the same game?
Yes. Once you click “Trade in” for a particular game, you may change the quantities. Once you submit, you can no longer change quantities on that trade-in batch.

How many multiple copies of the same game can I trade-in (updated 1/11/11)?
Maximum of 2 copies within 3 a month period.

I locked in X copies of a game but I now only have Y available to send. Can I just send in Y without being penalized? (updated 3/9/11)
Yes, you can always just send in a portion of your trade-in order and they'll just credit you for whatever they receive. However, the quantities you submitted for will stay locked in that instance (I think) so if you, for example, submitted for 2 copies and only sent 1, you may not be able to trade any more copies of that game for 3 months (see previous question).

Will the Trade-in of the Day TIV stay for 24 hours?
It's been reported that there is a limit (maximum # of copies) that will get the promoted TIV so lock yours.

So if I find a good flip, I can just send 2 copies of that game and not worry about Amazon accusing me of stolen merchandise?
Technically yes, but do keep in mind that other CAGs might want to participate in the current deal, and trading in a large number of the same game will definitely lower the TIV of said game. Let’s be nice to other people. This is probably moot for most folks now with the per account / address trade-in limit.

Wow, these TIVs suck (updated 3/9/11)!
Really? Hrm. While that may be true, they're often better than other comparable places. Your options of what to do with your used games are greater now than they've ever been, so feel free to shop your trades around or just sell them off on glyde/ebay/whatever. Also, not a question.

What the fuck? The TIV of a game I just bought for this deal tanked! What do I do?
The TIVs on Amazon fluctuate depending on the number of trades that are submitted, and we really can’t do anything about it. The best course of action for trading in games is to lock in your trade if you already have the games or are absolutely sure that you can obtain them. You can always cancel the trade submission if you end up not finding the games.
LOCK = SUBMIT YOUR TRADE, Don't just put it in the cart.

Can I edit a submitted trade?
Nope - once upon a time you could modify trade in quantities of submitted trades, but that ability has been removed.

Can I use my credit on items that are not video game-related?
Yes. This is the other perk for trading in games at Amazon since you're not limited to just video games.

Can I use my credit on items sold by third-party merchants on Amazon?
According to the fine print of the Amazon gift card use, some merchants are excluded. Your best bet is to try it on the checkout page of your order.

Strategy guides? I can trade in game/strategy guides? Whaaaaa?
Go to the Textbook Buyback section (http://www.amazon.com/Textbooks-Trad...ode=2205237011[/URL]). You can either search on the title of a strategy guide you have to see if they'll accept it, or search for guides. The two best search strings to start with are 'prima guides' and 'bradygames'. Might try 'doublejump' if you want to trade in some of those. (Thanks eugaet)

I locked in some hilariously overvalued trade for some weird rare game/accessory/etc that I can pick up for cheap cheap cheap. They didn't accept it. What should I do? (updated 3/9/11)
The truth is that AFS can reject things for any reason they see fit. While some people have managed to get silly things like a $200 credit for some cheerleading game (or for a PS2 - just ask io!), it's sooooooo YMMV that often it's not worth the effort. EXPECT REJECTION ON THINGS THAT ARE CLEARLY MISVALUED. That said, as long as you're willing to risk it, go for it!

What's all this item condition nonsense? And how can I get screwed over by it? (updated 6/9/11)
We're still kinda sussing out the details surrounding the new item condition portion of Amazon Trade-Ins, but it looks like there's a couple things to consider:
Good Condition eligibility (games):
- The video game, original manufacturer packaging and all original elements are included, but shows wear from normal use
- Game still plays perfectly
- Disc may have light scratches and other elements may have minor damage
- Item may have been personalized (marked or identified)

Acceptable eligibility (games):
- Game still plays perfectly
- Item may have been personalized (marked or identified)
- Item may be missing or have irreparable damage to one or all of the following: case, manual, artwork, bundled accessories, UPC

Note that a game will almost certainly not be accepted if it meets any of these conditions:
- Game does not play perfectly
- Disc is cracked
- Marked Not for Resale (or is otherwise marked not for sale)

Consoles/accessories have some slightly different criteria, but the idea is the same.

Did it seriously just ask me if I wanted my game / other item returned if they refuse to give me credit for it? (updated 6/9/11)
Yes, that just happened.

Unless you're purposefully sending them things you deem to be trash, please remember to choose the option that has them return your item to you during the checkout phase.

Who is AFS? (updated 9/14/13)
Amazon Fulfillment Services (previously known as NorAm). Dunno if they changed names, were bought up by Amazon, or what. Not too interested anyhow.

Why does my package jump back and forth between states? (updated 9/14/13)
Look at a map of the involved cities and it'll make sense. Something to do with UPS hubs and proximity to the state border/cities.

Post away!

 
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handsomepete said:
Keep in mind that they've certainly been known to reject things outright when sent in as disc only. Not always, but it can happen.
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I know other people have had this problem, but I have sent well over 100 disc/cart only things over the past year or so without a single rejection.

 
Got two LLWS 2010, both like new with the seal on the side just slit. Someone probably just opened and flipped them to the two stores across the street from each other. The EDF 2017 was a Blockbuster rental, has the case and stickers on it still, but the disc is in perfect shape and has the art work. Will throw it in an Xbox case I have sitting around and see if they accept it as good despite missing the manual, if not ~$23 for ~$10 is still OK with me when the only other store that has it is a ways away. Though they do have the SR double pack so I might trek out there tomorrow and see if I can't grab both.

Miami Flash15 said:
I think as long as the disc is fine, it'll qualify for acceptable and that's even fine for me. But I'd obviously prefer 'good'. Will check which copy is the best, if they do have multiple copies.
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Yeah, that's what the qualifications are for acceptable. Having at least some form of case is also pretty mandatory because it needs to be in salable condition which is probably why they reject just discs.

Vigilante said:
I come home for lunch, and what do I find...? A pretty awesome flip! Thanks, EldritchOnRye! :D
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You're welcome!

 
What happens if you trade in a game as "good" and Amazon decides its in acceptable condition, but the TIV tanked?

Example:

Lock in "good" TV for $20.

"acceptable" is at $15.

Once Amazon receives the game, the "acceptable" TIV is $2. 

Amazon then decides that the game you traded in is "acceptable" and not "good."

 
rezound said:
What happens if you trade in a game as "good" and Amazon decides its in acceptable condition, but the TIV tanked?

Example:

Lock in "good" TV for $20.

"acceptable" is at $15.

Once Amazon receives the game, the "acceptable" TIV is $2.

Amazon then decides that the game you traded in is "acceptable" and not "good."
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you get the acceptable condition that it was when you traded it in; $15 in your example....in your trade in account you can click where it says good next to your game and it will show you when the acceptable trade value is.

 
I went to two GS's. Each had one with case/cover, so bad one from each, came to $10.XX after coupon and tax. Didn't make a fuss over coupon.

 
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EldritchOnRye said:
Got two LLWS 2010, both like new with the seal on the side just slit. Someone probably just opened and flipped them to the two stores across the street from each other. The EDF 2017 was a Blockbuster rental, has the case and stickers on it still, but the disc is in perfect shape and has the art work. Will throw it in an Xbox case I have sitting around and see if they accept it as good despite missing the manual, if not ~$23 for ~$10 is still OK with me when the only other store that has it is a ways away. Though they do have the SR double pack so I might trek out there tomorrow and see if I can't grab both.

Yeah, that's what the qualifications are for acceptable. Having at least some form of case is also pretty mandatory because it needs to be in salable condition which is probably why they reject just discs.

You're welcome!
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Just be careful with the the Saint's row double pack because the 2 I saw at 2 different Gamestops have UPC's that don't come up on Amazon system. I didn't bother because I'm on the hunt for the UPC that matches because I would like to get the good not acceptable value but if you gonna just send the disc in then so be it.

 
Ugh, that probably means my Gears of War 3 limited edition is getting sent back because I didn't include the sleeve. Everything else is intact, I was just hoping I could use it for the one I got out of the Epic edition.  Well, time to lock in a trade again so I'm ready when it comes back in.

And the price dropped down in half in the past week.  Anyone have any luck in getting Amazon to honor a trade price for a game that was rejected?  I should have known better.

 
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Inexplicable - $41 for Rayman with artbook (acceptable = $31):

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00503NANQ/?tag=scurker-20

Also, Monster Jam 3 continues to rise.  It sure seemed like there was a $30 'ceiling' on all games before, but suddenly that doesn't seem to be the case.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003VKLA96/?tag=scurker-20

I also had no idea Metro 2033 :360: held such a high tiv - it apparently just dropped from $29 -. $22.  Was it a low print run or something?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002V16T0Q/?tag=scurker-20

 
boogie4114 said:
Just be careful with the the Saint's row double pack because the 2 I saw at 2 different Gamestops have UPC's that don't come up on Amazon system. I didn't bother because I'm on the hunt for the UPC that matches because I would like to get the good not acceptable value but if you gonna just send the disc in then so be it.
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Yeah, handsomepete warned me of this a few pages back which is why I didn't go chasing it today. This store's not as crazy far and if they have another copy of EDF it's doubly worth it. Before I buy it I would be typing the UPC on the back into Amazon though and see which copy came up.

handsomepete said:
I also had no idea Metro 2033 :360: held such a high tiv - it apparently just dropped from $29 -. $22. Was it a low print run or something?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002V16T0Q/?tag=scurker-20
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I think it had had a spike to $29 since last I looked it had been hovering around $20 but did notice it on the jump list last night when I saw EDF.

 
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Miami Flash15 said:
If I buy it 'like new', I can trade it in as 'acceptable' assuming it doesn't come with the book, right?!

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Best Buy & Gamestop also have it within that same price used as well.
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Thinking about that as well. Think they'll reject it without the book though? You can get a new copy w/ prime for $15.49 w/o the artbook.

Anyone have any experience doing such a thing?

 
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DealSeeker2U said:
Thanks! Locked in 2 as well.
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I'm just glad I could finally return the favor ;)

Also, would a copy of Rayman Origins be considered "Acceptable" without the art book if I wanted to lock in a $31.xx trade? Not sure if there are separate UPCs or if the book was just a pre-order bonus...

 
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I paid 57 thru gamestop. 20min later I tried to cancel. They said no...

Meh, it's only $4 I miss out on ;)
 
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Tvols1480 said:
I'm just glad I could finally return the favor ;)

Also, would a copy of Rayman Origins be considered "Acceptable" without the art book if I wanted to lock in a $31.xx trade? Not sure if there are separate UPCs or if the book was just a pre-order bonus...
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That's the million dollar question. Debating whether or not to just try it with 1 copy.

Edit: Just bought a copy. Going to give it a shot.

 
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do you guys think i could just send in a platinum hit saints row 1 and 2 and they would consider them as the "acceptable" SR double pack?

 
Miami Flash15 said:
For Defiance, can't we just trade it in and have them 'pay us now' and then use that balance towards buying it--would that work?
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Probably works. I'm afraid someone will notice, so I did it using separate accounts just so I don't get banned or whatever.

 
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CaseX said:
Probably works. I'm afraid someone will notice, so I did it using separate accounts just so I don't get banned or whatever.
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I don't think this is something you can get banned for. Correct me if I'm wrong, though. I would think converting $ into Amazon Credit using their own methods of buying and trading in would not be frowned upon. If it were $ for $, I could see the issue.

Edit: But, if you are using credit in the first place.....now I see the issue. Hmm, anyone ever had any issues with this sort of flip?

 
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Tvols1480 said:
I don't think this is something you can get banned for. Correct me if I'm wrong, though. I would think converting $ into Amazon Credit using their own methods of buying and trading in would not be frowned upon. If it were $ for $, I could see the issue.

Edit: But, if you are using credit in the first place.....now I see the issue. Hmm, anyone ever had any issues with this sort of flip?
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Just tried it out, got the credit and ordered the game with it. Feeling a bit shady doing it obviously, but your justification can be that you have it already, and are trading in your copy and buying another one with the credit.

God, I feel like my body is coated in SD slime now, don't think that's something I'll do again.

 
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DAMN IT, defiance CE for PS3 tanked to like $25 while I was in the middle of submitting the trade.  Had to cancel my GTA5 pre-order to free up the credit to get two... knew I should have locked before doing that.

Edit- 360 version up to $75 if you can get it from GS.  PS3 keeps skipping between $71 and $25.

 
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Miami Flash15 said:
Hope you locked Defiance in. Its value is now $27.XX
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360 Version is still at $75.00 if you can find a copy at Gamestop.

kitsunisan said:
Just tried it out, got the credit and ordered the game with it. Feeling a bit shady doing it obviously, but your justification can be that you have it already, and are trading in your copy and buying another one with the credit.

God, I feel like my body is coated in SD slime now, don't think that's something I'll do again.
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Haha I love that it took a second for that to sink in for you.

 
So I had locked in Defiance yesterday at $75.00

$49.99 + $7.98 shipping(two-day, no prime) = $57.97

A profit of $17.03 in the end.

Edit:

Wow, I'm dumb lmao. Locked-in the 360 version and the PS3 version is $49.99...thanks for the heads up.

 
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Tvols1480 said:
I don't think this is something you can get banned for. Correct me if I'm wrong, though. I would think converting $ into Amazon Credit using their own methods of buying and trading in would not be frowned upon. If it were $ for $, I could see the issue.

Edit: But, if you are using credit in the first place.....now I see the issue. Hmm, anyone ever had any issues with this sort of flip?
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Why in the world would you? They are offering $71 for the game, it is a seperate merchant that processes and buys these through amazon. Is there a disclaimer saying "You are not allowed to profit from this trade in"? There have been plenty of people who might lock in a TIV and order the game on the same day, if you are expecting to be banned for this, I would relax a little. You are well within the "Two of the same game for the same system" per x months (Don't remember exactly how many). Using seperate account's to order multiple IS more sketchy however, but as long as you obeyed the rules, if amazon messes up and you come out ahead they don't have grounds to punish you for it, this is on them. (Also this is not the first time this has happened, when Far Cry 3 first dropped to $20 recently, amazon had the TiV at $21.xx, even for a short while AFTER they pricematched gamestops price and I traded my used one for a new one, no problem so far)

 
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Keep sitting here refreshing hoping the PS3 version will shoot back up but I guess it's not going to.  So irritating to have had a free $50 in my hand and then have it slip through my fingers because I hesitated.

 
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Tvols1480 said:
360 Version is still at $75.00 if you can find a copy at Gamestop.
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They DO have a .com with PLENTY of it in stock, go into gamestop, order it through them and with free shipping. I don't see the 360 version dropping for a while so I did that earlier today when I was there.

 
handsomepete said:
Someone reposted it over on SD and it dropped in no time.
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Bastid lurkers, I call for a witch hunt and we can burn them all. If I had the cash to throw around or anything worth trading I would grab two of the 360 version from Gamestop but alas. If I knew it was going to return to $75 TIV in the next week or two I would order one or two and sit on it but I'm not getting stuck with it for $50. On the other hand I wonder what these will go for on AWD when they get 700 of them in as trades at once.

 
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Hemi said:
Why in the world would you? They are offering $71 for the game, it is a seperate merchant that processes and buys these through amazon.
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That's a good point. On a related note, has anyone found out where they sell these used games? Aside from GS and BB, where else can you buy used games? Maybe they re-sell them through Amazon itself under a different name? Or through the warehouse? I've always wondered this...

 
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CaseX said:
That's a good point. On a related note, has anyone found out where they sell these used games? Aside from GS and BB, where else can you buy used games? Maybe they re-sell them through Amazon itself under a different name? Or through the warehouse? I've always wondered this...
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They resell them through Amazon Warehouse Deals.

 
I'm tempted by the Defiance Gamestop deal, but I would be worried that it would not deliver before the trade in expires.  Way too risky not to lock in right now.

I just have the worst damn luck with Amazon trades.  Metro 2033 dropped down to 20 for awhile so I said screw it, and listed it on Ebay for $30 bucks.  I only got one bid.  Now I could have easily got 30 bucks credit without all the Ebay fees.

I got excited tonight when I went to a local game store and found a platinum hits version of the Saints Row double used for only 18 bucks. But of course, the damn game had to be missing the manual.  I bought it anyways.  I can still come out ahead even at acceptable.  Also found a Stubbs the Zombie for 13 bucks.  

 
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