AMC's The Walking Dead - S3 2nd half starts 02/10/13 9PM ET
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Overall, I felt it was a good episode. Finally, the sense of hopelessness has set in and the tone is darker.
Seems that Andrea is starting to side with Shane more and more.
What was with the Carol and Shane scene?
Did Beth get scratched by her "mombie"?
WTF was Lori thinking? *facepalm*
The ending scene with Rick in the bar had tension so thick you could cut it with a knife.
Hearing one of my favorite bands Clutch (same band in my avatar pic) kick into "The Regulator" made the scene that much more bad ass in my opinion.
Kinda disappointing that now we have yet another mcguffin in the form of Beth.
That said I'm interested to see what happens next.
However, I suspect they will stay at the farm and then the season finale will cause them to have to leave for good. Fire, explosion, over run by zombies, etc.
Seems that Andrea is starting to side with Shane more and more.
What was with the Carol and Shane scene?
Did Beth get scratched by her "mombie"?
WTF was Lori thinking? *facepalm*
The ending scene with Rick in the bar had tension so thick you could cut it with a knife.
Hearing one of my favorite bands Clutch (same band in my avatar pic) kick into "The Regulator" made the scene that much more bad ass in my opinion.
Kinda disappointing that now we have yet another mcguffin in the form of Beth.
That said I'm interested to see what happens next.
However, I suspect they will stay at the farm and then the season finale will cause them to have to leave for good. Fire, explosion, over run by zombies, etc.
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This week episode is much better than most of the entire series. Although there were still many shitty parts that were just there to pad the story. Also, they are pushing shane far to hard....its so obvious that its just obnoxious. God damn it writers...every time you show him he basically screams "I AM EVIL!" Let him grow into it a little.
I also felt a little taken that they just skipped forward past the kid falling and they were all of a sudden just back on the farm. It was the most exciting part of the last 2 episodes yet you want to cut it to make room for what?
I also felt a little taken that they just skipped forward past the kid falling and they were all of a sudden just back on the farm. It was the most exciting part of the last 2 episodes yet you want to cut it to make room for what?
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Good episode. I'm in the minority that I actually enjoyed the slow drama of the first half of the season, but ti's nice to see they're finally starting to kick things up.
I also really wish Lori would stop taking stupid pills. She just wrecked one of the cars, damn near got eaten by two Walkers, had to be bought back, and STILL she wanted to take her pregnant ass back out looking for Rick. Hell, I'm starting to think she's a bigger threat to everyone than Shane.
I also really wish Lori would stop taking stupid pills. She just wrecked one of the cars, damn near got eaten by two Walkers, had to be bought back, and STILL she wanted to take her pregnant ass back out looking for Rick. Hell, I'm starting to think she's a bigger threat to everyone than Shane.
[quote name='evildeadjedi']Did Beth get scratched by her "mombie"?[/QUOTE]"Mombie" made me laugh.
[quote name='Soodmeg']This week episode is much better than most of the entire series. Although there were still many shitty parts that were just there to pad the story. Also, they are pushing shane far to hard....its so obvious that its just obnoxious. God damn it writers...every time you show him he basically screams "I AM EVIL!" Let him grow into it a little.
I also felt a little taken that they just skipped forward past the kid falling and they were all of a sudden just back on the farm. It was the most exciting part of the last 2 episodes yet you want to cut it to make room for what?[/QUOTE]Agreed with the Shane thing. Maybe they are rushing it for a showdown between Rick and Shane and they want Rick to be "justified" in his cause rather than have it truer to life with shades of grey. There's only four episodes left and it looks like a showdown is imminent. Speaking of which, anyone see the Talking Dead sneak peek? Holy crap. I think the scene with Lori was good to show his state breaking down and his desperation.
And seriously, you leave us with Rick yanking the leg up and that's it until they saunter into camp the next morning? Thought there'd be some sort of harrowed escape considering they seemed surrounded. Maybe a scene of Hershel patching dude up while Rick gets them out of there. And why'd it take so long to get back? Glenn went there on horseback faster before. Where'd they camp in Zombietown? They all slept in the car with Randall bleeding out? Or did the standoff take all night as it seemed like Rick's showdown occurred at dusk.
[quote name='Purple Flames']Good episode. I'm in the minority that I actually enjoyed the slow drama of the first half of the season, but ti's nice to see they're finally starting to kick things up.
I also really wish Lori would stop taking stupid pills. She just wrecked one of the cars, damn near got eaten by two Walkers, had to be bought back, and STILL she wanted to take her pregnant ass back out looking for Rick. Hell, I'm starting to think she's a bigger threat to everyone than Shane.[/QUOTE]I didn't mind the slowness of the first half as much either, but the search did seem to drag on a little too long even for the big payoff which was great. Felt like one of those long three guys go into a bar jokes, just tell me about the first and third guys and cut out the second guy cause we know he's just filler for the joke anyway.
The Lori thing was ridiculous, at what point does she realize that driving into town ain't what it used to be? She bitches and moans every time Rick leaves her sight with an armed group, yet she's gonna haul her pregnant butt out by herself with noone knowing she left and for a pointless reason anyway. Like they were just taking their time for no reason just hanging out. Of course, they'll be back ASAP. The urgency hadn't changed since Rick and Glenn had left. Then insisting to go on after him with Shane. She'd be a liability especially after an accident in who knows what condition. Shane's unhinged, but she's selfish and stupid.
As far as dude on the fence? Hershel was right. Put him down and get the hell out with zombies moving in from all sides. Not a question. Too bad you had crappy buddies pal. Now you've wasted ammo fending off zombies, supplies for surgery (you can't send Otis for those anymore and who wants to go with Shane?), plus what do you do with him. Drop him somewhere with some rations and water like they said? Give away a gun? If not, or even so on a gimped leg he's no better off than stuck on the fence.
[quote name='Soodmeg']This week episode is much better than most of the entire series. Although there were still many shitty parts that were just there to pad the story. Also, they are pushing shane far to hard....its so obvious that its just obnoxious. God damn it writers...every time you show him he basically screams "I AM EVIL!" Let him grow into it a little.
I also felt a little taken that they just skipped forward past the kid falling and they were all of a sudden just back on the farm. It was the most exciting part of the last 2 episodes yet you want to cut it to make room for what?[/QUOTE]Agreed with the Shane thing. Maybe they are rushing it for a showdown between Rick and Shane and they want Rick to be "justified" in his cause rather than have it truer to life with shades of grey. There's only four episodes left and it looks like a showdown is imminent. Speaking of which, anyone see the Talking Dead sneak peek? Holy crap. I think the scene with Lori was good to show his state breaking down and his desperation.
And seriously, you leave us with Rick yanking the leg up and that's it until they saunter into camp the next morning? Thought there'd be some sort of harrowed escape considering they seemed surrounded. Maybe a scene of Hershel patching dude up while Rick gets them out of there. And why'd it take so long to get back? Glenn went there on horseback faster before. Where'd they camp in Zombietown? They all slept in the car with Randall bleeding out? Or did the standoff take all night as it seemed like Rick's showdown occurred at dusk.
[quote name='Purple Flames']Good episode. I'm in the minority that I actually enjoyed the slow drama of the first half of the season, but ti's nice to see they're finally starting to kick things up.
I also really wish Lori would stop taking stupid pills. She just wrecked one of the cars, damn near got eaten by two Walkers, had to be bought back, and STILL she wanted to take her pregnant ass back out looking for Rick. Hell, I'm starting to think she's a bigger threat to everyone than Shane.[/QUOTE]I didn't mind the slowness of the first half as much either, but the search did seem to drag on a little too long even for the big payoff which was great. Felt like one of those long three guys go into a bar jokes, just tell me about the first and third guys and cut out the second guy cause we know he's just filler for the joke anyway.
The Lori thing was ridiculous, at what point does she realize that driving into town ain't what it used to be? She bitches and moans every time Rick leaves her sight with an armed group, yet she's gonna haul her pregnant butt out by herself with noone knowing she left and for a pointless reason anyway. Like they were just taking their time for no reason just hanging out. Of course, they'll be back ASAP. The urgency hadn't changed since Rick and Glenn had left. Then insisting to go on after him with Shane. She'd be a liability especially after an accident in who knows what condition. Shane's unhinged, but she's selfish and stupid.
As far as dude on the fence? Hershel was right. Put him down and get the hell out with zombies moving in from all sides. Not a question. Too bad you had crappy buddies pal. Now you've wasted ammo fending off zombies, supplies for surgery (you can't send Otis for those anymore and who wants to go with Shane?), plus what do you do with him. Drop him somewhere with some rations and water like they said? Give away a gun? If not, or even so on a gimped leg he's no better off than stuck on the fence.
I can't remember what I've read from the comic—which is good. (Something about spoons that I can't recall.) At the end, my eyes opened wide with excitement. Shane really does need to be put-down. Dude is dangerous. ...And a murderer!
And I definitely agree with the sentiment that the fool caught on the fence should have been put out of his misery. Seems like a waste of time, resources, and energy to save him.
And I definitely agree with the sentiment that the fool caught on the fence should have been put out of his misery. Seems like a waste of time, resources, and energy to save him.
damn good episode imo. loris situation was pretty cool and i really enjoyed everything at the bar. kinda funny how rick can kill 2 people one minute
wtf care or dont care never in the middle.
oddly enough as much as they push shane as crazy hes the only one who really makes sense and seems to fully understand whats what and with that ending scene lori imo seems to be the crazy one man if theyd only kill her off.
im also tired of dale pining over andrea shes a bitch move on.
i was nice to actually see zombies doing what they do.
and then worry about someone who was shooting at them and want to save them after letting the guy he shot get eaten lol
oddly enough as much as they push shane as crazy hes the only one who really makes sense and seems to fully understand whats what and with that ending scene lori imo seems to be the crazy one man if theyd only kill her off.
im also tired of dale pining over andrea shes a bitch move on.
i was nice to actually see zombies doing what they do.
I'm getting tired of Lori, she needs to hopefully exit this show hopefully sooner rather than later. She seems very manipulative pretty much asking Rick to kill Shane. She is worried that Shane killed Otis, but she knows herself that if he did it was to save her son.
When she was talking to Rick it looked like he kind of stroked out there for a minute. Crazy blank eyes staring side ways.
At least Shane has his beliefs/ideas what should be done and sticks to them. One second Rick is wrangling zombies, next he is shooting them. Then he blows away two guys like he is Clint Eastwood because he doesn't want them to know where the group lives but then he is risking their lives to try and bring that kid with them who is impaled.
Shane right now is pretty much Rick's future. Do what it takes to survive no matter what the consequences, even if you are the bad guy. It is pretty cool to see how they think Shane is scary, but if they continue on for a while longer Rick will be just as bad as Shane.
When Shane does eventually expire I will miss the tension and comparison between the too. Rick's back and forth nature is entertaining, and watching him debate the choices is nice, but once Shane is gone I imagine Rick will quickly evolve into a real hard ass.
When she was talking to Rick it looked like he kind of stroked out there for a minute. Crazy blank eyes staring side ways.
At least Shane has his beliefs/ideas what should be done and sticks to them. One second Rick is wrangling zombies, next he is shooting them. Then he blows away two guys like he is Clint Eastwood because he doesn't want them to know where the group lives but then he is risking their lives to try and bring that kid with them who is impaled.
Shane right now is pretty much Rick's future. Do what it takes to survive no matter what the consequences, even if you are the bad guy. It is pretty cool to see how they think Shane is scary, but if they continue on for a while longer Rick will be just as bad as Shane.
When Shane does eventually expire I will miss the tension and comparison between the too. Rick's back and forth nature is entertaining, and watching him debate the choices is nice, but once Shane is gone I imagine Rick will quickly evolve into a real hard ass.
I can't believe what's more assine the posts about this last episode or this show in general... There are so many holes and so many stupid ass decision making going on yet no one dies!? wow...
I guess no one cares anymore that gun shots attract walkers... much less wasting precious ammo they don't have... and finally... Does the farm have a damn walker force field or something... ?
I guess no one cares anymore that gun shots attract walkers... much less wasting precious ammo they don't have... and finally... Does the farm have a damn walker force field or something... ?
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[quote name='VipFREAK']I can't believe what's more assine[/QUOTE]
When you start a paragraph like this, how can you expect people to take your thoughts seriously?
When you start a paragraph like this, how can you expect people to take your thoughts seriously?
I thought it was a good episode. I loved how they showed that walker trying to get Lori in the car and it basically didn't care that the glass was scraping off its face to get at her. Also, the walkers eating that dude's face was pretty sick too.
I do think they need to leave the farm or have it get overrun with walkers. It does seem like they are completely safe there. Daryl has a fire going and is living outside in a tent and doesn't seem at all concerned or scared. I know I'd be in a constant state of fear every time the sun went down no matter where I was.
I do think they need to leave the farm or have it get overrun with walkers. It does seem like they are completely safe there. Daryl has a fire going and is living outside in a tent and doesn't seem at all concerned or scared. I know I'd be in a constant state of fear every time the sun went down no matter where I was.
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[quote name='VipFREAK']I can't believe what's more assine the posts about this last episode or this show in general... There are so many holes and so many stupid ass decision making going on yet no one dies!? wow...
I guess no one cares anymore that gun shots attract walkers... much less wasting precious ammo they don't have... and finally... Does the farm have a damn walker force field or something... ?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I see a lot of stupid stuff. Everybody busting caps in zombies but can't say "Gee, the redneck with the crossbow is the only one of us that has any damn sense."
Most "stupid moments" are for plot development elsewhere. Yeah, it was stupid for Lori to drive off alone, but she had to because it was the only logical way to move forward the Shane's gonna try to kill Rick and fail crap that is certain to be on the last or second-to-last episode.
The farm is stupid now too. They should have moved on by now. They easily could have found another identical farm to make their own and really only need to drive to Hershel's when somebody gets a sliver or needs some Nyquil. Even with the outsiders who wanted to know where their farm was, they could have their pick of any farm that would have the same defenses (magic barbed wire fence sprayed with walker repellant?)
It's just that the show probably wants to stretch it out so they can lift from Kirkman's works without ending up like HBO's Game Of Thrones and potentially have to put the show on ice (no pun intended) because George is still writing the next season's related book. So because of that, you get a slow burn TV show that burns so slow it creates massive plot holes. People don't die because while in the comics they drop at about half the rate of Game of Thrones characters, but their deaths are clearly reserved for mid-season and season finales, just so something finale-worthy actually happens.
With all that said, I still like this show and would watch it over most anything else on the air. It's original enough where I can forgive tons of faults as long as they don't do some stupid shit like the unecessary CDC center again.
I guess no one cares anymore that gun shots attract walkers... much less wasting precious ammo they don't have... and finally... Does the farm have a damn walker force field or something... ?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I see a lot of stupid stuff. Everybody busting caps in zombies but can't say "Gee, the redneck with the crossbow is the only one of us that has any damn sense."
Most "stupid moments" are for plot development elsewhere. Yeah, it was stupid for Lori to drive off alone, but she had to because it was the only logical way to move forward the Shane's gonna try to kill Rick and fail crap that is certain to be on the last or second-to-last episode.
The farm is stupid now too. They should have moved on by now. They easily could have found another identical farm to make their own and really only need to drive to Hershel's when somebody gets a sliver or needs some Nyquil. Even with the outsiders who wanted to know where their farm was, they could have their pick of any farm that would have the same defenses (magic barbed wire fence sprayed with walker repellant?)
It's just that the show probably wants to stretch it out so they can lift from Kirkman's works without ending up like HBO's Game Of Thrones and potentially have to put the show on ice (no pun intended) because George is still writing the next season's related book. So because of that, you get a slow burn TV show that burns so slow it creates massive plot holes. People don't die because while in the comics they drop at about half the rate of Game of Thrones characters, but their deaths are clearly reserved for mid-season and season finales, just so something finale-worthy actually happens.
With all that said, I still like this show and would watch it over most anything else on the air. It's original enough where I can forgive tons of faults as long as they don't do some stupid shit like the unecessary CDC center again.
[quote name='Dokstarr']I'm getting tired of Lori, she needs to hopefully exit this show hopefully sooner rather than later. She seems very manipulative pretty much asking Rick to kill Shane. She is worried that Shane killed Otis, but she knows herself that if he did it was to save her son.
When she was talking to Rick it looked like he kind of stroked out there for a minute. Crazy blank eyes staring side ways.
At least Shane has his beliefs/ideas what should be done and sticks to them. One second Rick is wrangling zombies, next he is shooting them. Then he blows away two guys like he is Clint Eastwood because he doesn't want them to know where the group lives but then he is risking their lives to try and bring that kid with them who is impaled.
Shane right now is pretty much Rick's future. Do what it takes to survive no matter what the consequences, even if you are the bad guy. It is pretty cool to see how they think Shane is scary, but if they continue on for a while longer Rick will be just as bad as Shane.
When Shane does eventually expire I will miss the tension and comparison between the too. Rick's back and forth nature is entertaining, and watching him debate the choices is nice, but once Shane is gone I imagine Rick will quickly evolve into a real hard ass.[/QUOTE]While Lori is mainly annoying, I really liked the scene where she's trying to turn Rick against Shane. Seemed very shakesperean in a way with the woman whispering her intents into the man's will trying to steer him in the way that suits them best.
And Rick wrangled zombies for politics sake to work with Hershel on keeping the group at the farm, to me that made sense to show your bargaining partner you can see their side and have an understanding while disagreeing, but we all know Rick just wants to shoot them! And with the kid I think it comes down to they weren't really beset by zombies yet so try to save him. Probably comes from being a cop, from always doing the right thing, from having a mentality of humans vs zombies first and foremost and him being a kid seemed to play into it. I understand it, though pragmatically it's tough to agree with. Maybe Randall will be zombie fodder when the farm is overrun?
[quote name='VipFREAK']I can't believe what's more assine the posts about this last episode or this show in general... There are so many holes and so many stupid ass decision making going on yet no one dies!? wow...
I guess no one cares anymore that gun shots attract walkers... much less wasting precious ammo they don't have... and finally... Does the farm have a damn walker force field or something... ?[/QUOTE]I agree on the gunshots and ammo for sure, but how many walkers would be coming onto the farm? It's a good ole country farm. It's secluded. Looks like acres and acres or land with the next house miles away and the next just as far. Small population to be zombies and most would probably be in town, hell, it would be likely that there would be another farm or two in the area still lived on by survivors just because of the isolation and with a little luck. There's been at least two that DID make it onto the farm (the one they shot and hershel said he wanted to take care of any more and the well one), plus the ones captured by Otis mostly from the swamp I guess. Also, it has simple fences to keep them out which while they are passive would scarily seem like enough. Walkers have been portrayed to mostly just shamble down the path in front of them and not go out of their way to climb/break/open a fence or gate unless they see food. Speaking of which, I know we saw chickens and horses, but where are the livestock?
[quote name='Javery']I thought it was a good episode. I loved how they showed that walker trying to get Lori in the car and it basically didn't care that the glass was scraping off its face to get at her. Also, the walkers eating that dude's face was pretty sick too.
I do think they need to leave the farm or have it get overrun with walkers. It does seem like they are completely safe there. Daryl has a fire going and is living outside in a tent and doesn't seem at all concerned or scared. I know I'd be in a constant state of fear every time the sun went down no matter where I was.[/QUOTE]My initial thought was that they would move on to fort benning eventually and leave the farm and it's crew behind, but they need some fodder for the machine as they lost all their "red shirts" at the camp. So I was figuring a swarm like in the first S2 episode would come through the farm and find them and attack killing off some characters especially the farm people we hardly see, then I thought there could be a cat and mouse kind of game with the other survivors in town and maybe those guys would lead a bunch of zombies to the farm. There's not much time left for that now.
They really do seem too at ease on the farm, even as safe as it should be there's obviously a threat of some getting to them as the two walkers who made it there proves and the threat of a herd coming through. What if the well walker didn't fall in the well that night and saw the fires or even more the lights in the house windows?
And another thing, why is it in zombie movies there's always this huge number of zombies? Like the whole population is zombies except the last few survivors. There should be way fewer, still alot, but way fewer. Most people bitten by a zombie get eaten. They don't take a bite of one guy and run on to the next like some canabalistic game of tag. Way fewer people get bitten and get away. If the zombies are eating all these people shouldn't they all just be dead meaning less zombies around? And where's all the mostly eaten corpses? Or should they be like bones with a little flesh trying to crawl? I never see zombies crack open a skull like an oyster to slurp out those delicious brains that they're always moaning about and we all know it's the brains you have to kill to kill the zombie or prevent a person from turning.
When she was talking to Rick it looked like he kind of stroked out there for a minute. Crazy blank eyes staring side ways.
At least Shane has his beliefs/ideas what should be done and sticks to them. One second Rick is wrangling zombies, next he is shooting them. Then he blows away two guys like he is Clint Eastwood because he doesn't want them to know where the group lives but then he is risking their lives to try and bring that kid with them who is impaled.
Shane right now is pretty much Rick's future. Do what it takes to survive no matter what the consequences, even if you are the bad guy. It is pretty cool to see how they think Shane is scary, but if they continue on for a while longer Rick will be just as bad as Shane.
When Shane does eventually expire I will miss the tension and comparison between the too. Rick's back and forth nature is entertaining, and watching him debate the choices is nice, but once Shane is gone I imagine Rick will quickly evolve into a real hard ass.[/QUOTE]While Lori is mainly annoying, I really liked the scene where she's trying to turn Rick against Shane. Seemed very shakesperean in a way with the woman whispering her intents into the man's will trying to steer him in the way that suits them best.
And Rick wrangled zombies for politics sake to work with Hershel on keeping the group at the farm, to me that made sense to show your bargaining partner you can see their side and have an understanding while disagreeing, but we all know Rick just wants to shoot them! And with the kid I think it comes down to they weren't really beset by zombies yet so try to save him. Probably comes from being a cop, from always doing the right thing, from having a mentality of humans vs zombies first and foremost and him being a kid seemed to play into it. I understand it, though pragmatically it's tough to agree with. Maybe Randall will be zombie fodder when the farm is overrun?
[quote name='VipFREAK']I can't believe what's more assine the posts about this last episode or this show in general... There are so many holes and so many stupid ass decision making going on yet no one dies!? wow...
I guess no one cares anymore that gun shots attract walkers... much less wasting precious ammo they don't have... and finally... Does the farm have a damn walker force field or something... ?[/QUOTE]I agree on the gunshots and ammo for sure, but how many walkers would be coming onto the farm? It's a good ole country farm. It's secluded. Looks like acres and acres or land with the next house miles away and the next just as far. Small population to be zombies and most would probably be in town, hell, it would be likely that there would be another farm or two in the area still lived on by survivors just because of the isolation and with a little luck. There's been at least two that DID make it onto the farm (the one they shot and hershel said he wanted to take care of any more and the well one), plus the ones captured by Otis mostly from the swamp I guess. Also, it has simple fences to keep them out which while they are passive would scarily seem like enough. Walkers have been portrayed to mostly just shamble down the path in front of them and not go out of their way to climb/break/open a fence or gate unless they see food. Speaking of which, I know we saw chickens and horses, but where are the livestock?
[quote name='Javery']I thought it was a good episode. I loved how they showed that walker trying to get Lori in the car and it basically didn't care that the glass was scraping off its face to get at her. Also, the walkers eating that dude's face was pretty sick too.
I do think they need to leave the farm or have it get overrun with walkers. It does seem like they are completely safe there. Daryl has a fire going and is living outside in a tent and doesn't seem at all concerned or scared. I know I'd be in a constant state of fear every time the sun went down no matter where I was.[/QUOTE]My initial thought was that they would move on to fort benning eventually and leave the farm and it's crew behind, but they need some fodder for the machine as they lost all their "red shirts" at the camp. So I was figuring a swarm like in the first S2 episode would come through the farm and find them and attack killing off some characters especially the farm people we hardly see, then I thought there could be a cat and mouse kind of game with the other survivors in town and maybe those guys would lead a bunch of zombies to the farm. There's not much time left for that now.
They really do seem too at ease on the farm, even as safe as it should be there's obviously a threat of some getting to them as the two walkers who made it there proves and the threat of a herd coming through. What if the well walker didn't fall in the well that night and saw the fires or even more the lights in the house windows?
And another thing, why is it in zombie movies there's always this huge number of zombies? Like the whole population is zombies except the last few survivors. There should be way fewer, still alot, but way fewer. Most people bitten by a zombie get eaten. They don't take a bite of one guy and run on to the next like some canabalistic game of tag. Way fewer people get bitten and get away. If the zombies are eating all these people shouldn't they all just be dead meaning less zombies around? And where's all the mostly eaten corpses? Or should they be like bones with a little flesh trying to crawl? I never see zombies crack open a skull like an oyster to slurp out those delicious brains that they're always moaning about and we all know it's the brains you have to kill to kill the zombie or prevent a person from turning.
[quote name='crunchb3rry']Yeah, I see a lot of stupid stuff. Everybody busting caps in zombies but can't say "Gee, the redneck with the crossbow is the only one of us that has any damn sense."
The farm is stupid now too. They should have moved on by now. They easily could have found another identical farm to make their own and really only need to drive to Hershel's when somebody gets a sliver or needs some Nyquil. Even with the outsiders who wanted to know where their farm was, they could have their pick of any farm that would have the same defenses (magic barbed wire fence sprayed with walker repellant?)[/QUOTE]To be fair they only have one crossbow and a crossbow is a lot harder to handle than a 12 gauge.
The farm thing has been bugging the crap out of me. Why can't they go find another nearby farm? Find a vacant one or clear out one that has a few zombies and put up some good fences (I'd A-Team fortify it, but whatever) Ask Hershel for some help learning how to grow crops, go ask questions or for help when need be and help out on his in turn. Everyone wins. Now if the outsiders aren't nice then they would rather take one over than build one up, I get that, but the main characters, why not find a nearby farm?
The farm is stupid now too. They should have moved on by now. They easily could have found another identical farm to make their own and really only need to drive to Hershel's when somebody gets a sliver or needs some Nyquil. Even with the outsiders who wanted to know where their farm was, they could have their pick of any farm that would have the same defenses (magic barbed wire fence sprayed with walker repellant?)[/QUOTE]To be fair they only have one crossbow and a crossbow is a lot harder to handle than a 12 gauge.
The farm thing has been bugging the crap out of me. Why can't they go find another nearby farm? Find a vacant one or clear out one that has a few zombies and put up some good fences (I'd A-Team fortify it, but whatever) Ask Hershel for some help learning how to grow crops, go ask questions or for help when need be and help out on his in turn. Everyone wins. Now if the outsiders aren't nice then they would rather take one over than build one up, I get that, but the main characters, why not find a nearby farm?
[quote name='jdawgg76']While Lori is mainly annoying, I really liked the scene where she's trying to turn Rick against Shane. Seemed very shakesperean in a way with the woman whispering her intents into the man's will trying to steer him in the way that suits them best.
And Rick wrangled zombies for politics sake to work with Hershel on keeping the group at the farm, to me that made sense to show your bargaining partner you can see their side and have an understanding while disagreeing, but we all know Rick just wants to shoot them! And with the kid I think it comes down to they weren't really beset by zombies yet so try to save him. Probably comes from being a cop, from always doing the right thing, from having a mentality of humans vs zombies first and foremost and him being a kid seemed to play into it. I understand it, though pragmatically it's tough to agree with. Maybe Randall will be zombie fodder when the farm is overrun?
I agree on the gunshots and ammo for sure, but how many walkers would be coming onto the farm? It's a good ole country farm. It's secluded. Looks like acres and acres or land with the next house miles away and the next just as far. Small population to be zombies and most would probably be in town, hell, it would be likely that there would be another farm or two in the area still lived on by survivors just because of the isolation and with a little luck. There's been at least two that DID make it onto the farm (the one they shot and hershel said he wanted to take care of any more and the well one), plus the ones captured by Otis mostly from the swamp I guess. Also, it has simple fences to keep them out which while they are passive would scarily seem like enough. Walkers have been portrayed to mostly just shamble down the path in front of them and not go out of their way to climb/break/open a fence or gate unless they see food. Speaking of which, I know we saw chickens and horses, but where are the livestock?
My initial thought was that they would move on to fort benning eventually and leave the farm and it's crew behind, but they need some fodder for the machine as they lost all their "red shirts" at the camp. So I was figuring a swarm like in the first S2 episode would come through the farm and find them and attack killing off some characters especially the farm people we hardly see, then I thought there could be a cat and mouse kind of game with the other survivors in town and maybe those guys would lead a bunch of zombies to the farm. There's not much time left for that now.
They really do seem too at ease on the farm, even as safe as it should be there's obviously a threat of some getting to them as the two walkers who made it there proves and the threat of a herd coming through. What if the well walker didn't fall in the well that night and saw the fires or even more the lights in the house windows?
And another thing, why is it in zombie movies there's always this huge number of zombies? Like the whole population is zombies except the last few survivors. There should be way fewer, still alot, but way fewer. Most people bitten by a zombie get eaten. They don't take a bite of one guy and run on to the next like some canabalistic game of tag. Way fewer people get bitten and get away. If the zombies are eating all these people shouldn't they all just be dead meaning less zombies around? And where's all the mostly eaten corpses? Or should they be like bones with a little flesh trying to crawl? I never see zombies crack open a skull like an oyster to slurp out those delicious brains that they're always moaning about and we all know it's the brains you have to kill to kill the zombie or prevent a person from turning.[/QUOTE]
the number of zombies is gonna vary depending on what type of area you live in ( rural ,suburban , urban ect) and on top of that yeah alot of people would be eaten but what about those who survive attacks only to be turned later? or those who turn inside of homes, businesses cars ect. in the end yeah many will die but if you think about the total population of any given area its not hard to believe that wed be overrun and the world would be populated by walking dead.
most people wouldnt be able to kill off infected or undead member of their family and alot of people will be killed or turned due to sheer stupidity. the shit that always creeped me out is all the ones that would fall in the water and how theyd shamble around down there till reaching land.
my main gripe with zombies is depending on the area they shouldnt last too long especially in the south during the summer youd think they would deteriorate pretty quickly to the point all youd need to do is wait them out.
And Rick wrangled zombies for politics sake to work with Hershel on keeping the group at the farm, to me that made sense to show your bargaining partner you can see their side and have an understanding while disagreeing, but we all know Rick just wants to shoot them! And with the kid I think it comes down to they weren't really beset by zombies yet so try to save him. Probably comes from being a cop, from always doing the right thing, from having a mentality of humans vs zombies first and foremost and him being a kid seemed to play into it. I understand it, though pragmatically it's tough to agree with. Maybe Randall will be zombie fodder when the farm is overrun?
I agree on the gunshots and ammo for sure, but how many walkers would be coming onto the farm? It's a good ole country farm. It's secluded. Looks like acres and acres or land with the next house miles away and the next just as far. Small population to be zombies and most would probably be in town, hell, it would be likely that there would be another farm or two in the area still lived on by survivors just because of the isolation and with a little luck. There's been at least two that DID make it onto the farm (the one they shot and hershel said he wanted to take care of any more and the well one), plus the ones captured by Otis mostly from the swamp I guess. Also, it has simple fences to keep them out which while they are passive would scarily seem like enough. Walkers have been portrayed to mostly just shamble down the path in front of them and not go out of their way to climb/break/open a fence or gate unless they see food. Speaking of which, I know we saw chickens and horses, but where are the livestock?
My initial thought was that they would move on to fort benning eventually and leave the farm and it's crew behind, but they need some fodder for the machine as they lost all their "red shirts" at the camp. So I was figuring a swarm like in the first S2 episode would come through the farm and find them and attack killing off some characters especially the farm people we hardly see, then I thought there could be a cat and mouse kind of game with the other survivors in town and maybe those guys would lead a bunch of zombies to the farm. There's not much time left for that now.
They really do seem too at ease on the farm, even as safe as it should be there's obviously a threat of some getting to them as the two walkers who made it there proves and the threat of a herd coming through. What if the well walker didn't fall in the well that night and saw the fires or even more the lights in the house windows?
And another thing, why is it in zombie movies there's always this huge number of zombies? Like the whole population is zombies except the last few survivors. There should be way fewer, still alot, but way fewer. Most people bitten by a zombie get eaten. They don't take a bite of one guy and run on to the next like some canabalistic game of tag. Way fewer people get bitten and get away. If the zombies are eating all these people shouldn't they all just be dead meaning less zombies around? And where's all the mostly eaten corpses? Or should they be like bones with a little flesh trying to crawl? I never see zombies crack open a skull like an oyster to slurp out those delicious brains that they're always moaning about and we all know it's the brains you have to kill to kill the zombie or prevent a person from turning.[/QUOTE]
the number of zombies is gonna vary depending on what type of area you live in ( rural ,suburban , urban ect) and on top of that yeah alot of people would be eaten but what about those who survive attacks only to be turned later? or those who turn inside of homes, businesses cars ect. in the end yeah many will die but if you think about the total population of any given area its not hard to believe that wed be overrun and the world would be populated by walking dead.
most people wouldnt be able to kill off infected or undead member of their family and alot of people will be killed or turned due to sheer stupidity. the shit that always creeped me out is all the ones that would fall in the water and how theyd shamble around down there till reaching land.
my main gripe with zombies is depending on the area they shouldnt last too long especially in the south during the summer youd think they would deteriorate pretty quickly to the point all youd need to do is wait them out.
[quote name='lokizz']the number of zombies is gonna vary depending on what type of area you live in ( rural ,suburban , urban ect) and on top of that yeah alot of people would be eaten but what about those who survive attacks only to be turned later? or those who turn inside of homes, businesses cars ect. in the end yeah many will die but if you think about the total population of any given area its not hard to believe that wed be overrun and the world would be populated by walking dead.
most people wouldnt be able to kill off infected or undead member of their family and alot of people will be killed or turned due to sheer stupidity. the shit that always creeped me out is all the ones that would fall in the water and how theyd shamble around down there till reaching land.
my main gripe with zombies is depending on the area they shouldnt last too long especially in the south during the summer youd think they would deteriorate pretty quickly to the point all youd need to do is wait them out.[/QUOTE]It just seems like 60 to 80 % of zombie attacks would end in a mealas opposed to just being bitten which would leave a smaller zombie force than seems to often be portrayed in movies like dawn of the dead where it's just a neverending mass of zombies because everyone is now a zombie. Never really thought about underwater zombies. Corpses actually float until they waterlog. And agreed on the rotting part too.
most people wouldnt be able to kill off infected or undead member of their family and alot of people will be killed or turned due to sheer stupidity. the shit that always creeped me out is all the ones that would fall in the water and how theyd shamble around down there till reaching land.
my main gripe with zombies is depending on the area they shouldnt last too long especially in the south during the summer youd think they would deteriorate pretty quickly to the point all youd need to do is wait them out.[/QUOTE]It just seems like 60 to 80 % of zombie attacks would end in a mealas opposed to just being bitten which would leave a smaller zombie force than seems to often be portrayed in movies like dawn of the dead where it's just a neverending mass of zombies because everyone is now a zombie. Never really thought about underwater zombies. Corpses actually float until they waterlog. And agreed on the rotting part too.
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Wouldn't any dead corpse reanimate though? Look at the bicycle girl from season 1, episode 1, she was in terrible shape. Once you're dead, they quit chewing, which is why the barn zombies were fed live chickens.
[quote name='jdawgg76']It just seems like 60 to 80 % of zombie attacks would end in a mealas opposed to just being bitten which would leave a smaller zombie force than seems to often be portrayed in movies like dawn of the dead where it's just a neverending mass of zombies because everyone is now a zombie. Never really thought about underwater zombies. Corpses actually float until they waterlog. And agreed on the rotting part too.[/QUOTE]
if you havent read it check out world war zombie that book will definitely open your eyes to alot of possibilities when it comes to zombies taking over. and its cool to see how diff countries dealt with it.
that , and the movie zombie) was where i started thinking about underwater zombies.
if you havent read it check out world war zombie that book will definitely open your eyes to alot of possibilities when it comes to zombies taking over. and its cool to see how diff countries dealt with it.
that , and the movie zombie) was where i started thinking about underwater zombies.
[quote name='Bloodbooger']Wouldn't any dead corpse reanimate though? Look at the bicycle girl from season 1, episode 1, she was in terrible shape. Once you're dead, they quit chewing, which is why the barn zombies were fed live chickens.[/QUOTE]
depends on the mythos. in romeros world only freshly dead corpses reanimated but in movies like return of the living dead all dead bodies reanimated no matter the age or time dead. i like romeros ideas better since you have more of a fighting chance lol.
depends on the mythos. in romeros world only freshly dead corpses reanimated but in movies like return of the living dead all dead bodies reanimated no matter the age or time dead. i like romeros ideas better since you have more of a fighting chance lol.
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[quote name='jdawgg76']To be fair they only have one crossbow and a crossbow is a lot harder to handle than a 12 gauge.
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Agree, but I don't specifically mean the crossbow. They've been on the road so long, and while I know Rick probably supplied them with tons of ammo from the police station, it's getting to the point where they should be starting to make some melee weapons and acknowledge that the guns are part of their problem.
But, from reading the comics, I understand why they haven't yet.
As for the farm, up above I can see that it's not too unrealistic that they can stay safe on that farm with little defenses. Don't remember any specific scenes showing otherwise, but it seems quite far off the main roads. The group only found it running through the woods. Still, they've established that the woods have more than enough walkers wandering around in it. All that keeps going through my mind while watching them all basically shit their pants in fear that there's like 15 of them locked up in a barn tighter than Fort Knox.
I don't think any of that will matter soon. There's no way they're still going to be on the farm by the end of this season. It's played out, they have to move on just to keep the story fresh. Just like the comics, they're moving to more secure places as they travel.
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Agree, but I don't specifically mean the crossbow. They've been on the road so long, and while I know Rick probably supplied them with tons of ammo from the police station, it's getting to the point where they should be starting to make some melee weapons and acknowledge that the guns are part of their problem.
But, from reading the comics, I understand why they haven't yet.
So they can establish Andrea as being gun crazy and eventually the best shot of the group, and so it's "cool" when Michonne shows up with her katana.
As for the farm, up above I can see that it's not too unrealistic that they can stay safe on that farm with little defenses. Don't remember any specific scenes showing otherwise, but it seems quite far off the main roads. The group only found it running through the woods. Still, they've established that the woods have more than enough walkers wandering around in it. All that keeps going through my mind while watching them all basically shit their pants in fear that there's like 15 of them locked up in a barn tighter than Fort Knox.
I don't think any of that will matter soon. There's no way they're still going to be on the farm by the end of this season. It's played out, they have to move on just to keep the story fresh. Just like the comics, they're moving to more secure places as they travel.
A show like this just requires some suspension of disbelief.
Why to they waste a lot of ammo shooting zombies-- because fans have been bitching about their not being enough action and zombie fights! Now they put in an action scene, and people bitch about it being stupid and a waste of ammo.
Why are they still on the farm, and the farm seeming free of zombine run ins--they need time to develop characters. A TV series needs well developed characters, and not just a bunch of people constantly on the run from Zombies. That works for a movie or comic book, but won't hold a big audience's attention for multiple TV seasons.
Why to they waste a lot of ammo shooting zombies-- because fans have been bitching about their not being enough action and zombie fights! Now they put in an action scene, and people bitch about it being stupid and a waste of ammo.
Why are they still on the farm, and the farm seeming free of zombine run ins--they need time to develop characters. A TV series needs well developed characters, and not just a bunch of people constantly on the run from Zombies. That works for a movie or comic book, but won't hold a big audience's attention for multiple TV seasons.
[quote name='dmaul1114']A show like this just requires some suspension of disbelief.
Why to they waste a lot of ammo shooting zombies-- because fans have been bitching about their not being enough action and zombie fights! Now they put in an action scene, and people bitch about it being stupid and a waste of ammo.
Why are they still on the farm, and the farm seeming free of zombine run ins--they need time to develop characters. A TV series needs well developed characters, and not just a bunch of people constantly on the run from Zombies. That works for a movie or comic book, but won't hold a big audience's attention for multiple TV seasons.[/QUOTE]
the suspension of disbelief comes from the fact that theres dead people walking around which we all have no issue with and enjoy.
actually if the show followed the comic more i think itd draw a bigger audience.you cant really excuse the shoddy shitty stories theyve been cranking out or the the slow plodding of the overall story as "character development" if that were the case dont you think more of the characters on the show would stand out? on top of that there would be more likeable or interesting characters and not just 2 or 3.
this past episode was a big step up from most of the series but there are alot of glaring issues that make alot of what goes on in the show hard to swallow. like ive said before if it wasnt for the occasional zombie showing up you wouldnt know it was a zombie show by the way the characters act.
hell when was the last time they even went out to look for food? all those people on the farm youd need to resupply at some point.
Why to they waste a lot of ammo shooting zombies-- because fans have been bitching about their not being enough action and zombie fights! Now they put in an action scene, and people bitch about it being stupid and a waste of ammo.
Why are they still on the farm, and the farm seeming free of zombine run ins--they need time to develop characters. A TV series needs well developed characters, and not just a bunch of people constantly on the run from Zombies. That works for a movie or comic book, but won't hold a big audience's attention for multiple TV seasons.[/QUOTE]
the suspension of disbelief comes from the fact that theres dead people walking around which we all have no issue with and enjoy.
actually if the show followed the comic more i think itd draw a bigger audience.you cant really excuse the shoddy shitty stories theyve been cranking out or the the slow plodding of the overall story as "character development" if that were the case dont you think more of the characters on the show would stand out? on top of that there would be more likeable or interesting characters and not just 2 or 3.
this past episode was a big step up from most of the series but there are alot of glaring issues that make alot of what goes on in the show hard to swallow. like ive said before if it wasnt for the occasional zombie showing up you wouldnt know it was a zombie show by the way the characters act.
hell when was the last time they even went out to look for food? all those people on the farm youd need to resupply at some point.
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[quote name='dmaul1114']A show like this just requires some suspension of disbelief.
Why to they waste a lot of ammo shooting zombies-- because fans have been bitching about their not being enough action and zombie fights! Now they put in an action scene, and people bitch about it being stupid and a waste of ammo.
Why are they still on the farm, and the farm seeming free of zombine run ins--they need time to develop characters. A TV series needs well developed characters, and not just a bunch of people constantly on the run from Zombies. That works for a movie or comic book, but won't hold a big audience's attention for multiple TV seasons.[/QUOTE]
Nawwww buddy. Shows do require some suspension of disbelief but they are clearly taking it to the point of almost offending your intelligence.
There is are only so many things that you can just ignore before the plot starts to break down. Its film 101 people will eventually notice that they have to lower their IQ to 5 in order to accept what is being shown onscreen. Trust me, as a person who knows film writing and directing I see all of the "standard padding tactics," and I have used most of them myself. People bitch about this show because the show has established a theory that its not following. In a movie or a film you can have 2 + 2 = 50 if you would like and people will accepted as long as the theory stays the same through out. Once you have 2 + 2 = 50 you cant change it back to 2 + 2 = 4.
For example, you cant set that shooting guns attracts zombies but then show them shooting guns without it attracting zombies. You also cant say that its mighty dangerous to leave the farm and that is why we are staying here....yet leave the farm dozens of times all willy nilly without any consequence. Also, seriously how many crossbows does the redneck have? You want me to believe that he could retrieve every one he shot? He only had like 6 to start out with. SciFi is one of the hardest genre to do "right" because it so hard to keep up with the rules you have already broken in a way that makes sense. Most of the time people hit a plot point in which they cant not follow the real life rules (because they already broke them) but it also doesnt fit into the reality they made up...so you are stuck with 2 choices, make up another set of rules or revert back to the real life rules. You can do this once or twice and people will just shrug it off but once you start doing this 6 or 7 times people will notice even if they cant put their fingers on it.
One last example, if you are watching a Die Hard movie, you understand that the reality is that Bruce Willis is superhuman...thats the rules everyone accepts them. So when he jumps through a plate glass window you register it as something acceptable in that reality. Now compare that to The Walking Dead in which the reality is....same old earth...just with zombies. So its hard to take someone carrying a grenade in their back pocket and jumping out of an explosion.
Its just a poorly written show but its the only show of its kind so people put up with it.
Why to they waste a lot of ammo shooting zombies-- because fans have been bitching about their not being enough action and zombie fights! Now they put in an action scene, and people bitch about it being stupid and a waste of ammo.
Why are they still on the farm, and the farm seeming free of zombine run ins--they need time to develop characters. A TV series needs well developed characters, and not just a bunch of people constantly on the run from Zombies. That works for a movie or comic book, but won't hold a big audience's attention for multiple TV seasons.[/QUOTE]
Nawwww buddy. Shows do require some suspension of disbelief but they are clearly taking it to the point of almost offending your intelligence.
There is are only so many things that you can just ignore before the plot starts to break down. Its film 101 people will eventually notice that they have to lower their IQ to 5 in order to accept what is being shown onscreen. Trust me, as a person who knows film writing and directing I see all of the "standard padding tactics," and I have used most of them myself. People bitch about this show because the show has established a theory that its not following. In a movie or a film you can have 2 + 2 = 50 if you would like and people will accepted as long as the theory stays the same through out. Once you have 2 + 2 = 50 you cant change it back to 2 + 2 = 4.
For example, you cant set that shooting guns attracts zombies but then show them shooting guns without it attracting zombies. You also cant say that its mighty dangerous to leave the farm and that is why we are staying here....yet leave the farm dozens of times all willy nilly without any consequence. Also, seriously how many crossbows does the redneck have? You want me to believe that he could retrieve every one he shot? He only had like 6 to start out with. SciFi is one of the hardest genre to do "right" because it so hard to keep up with the rules you have already broken in a way that makes sense. Most of the time people hit a plot point in which they cant not follow the real life rules (because they already broke them) but it also doesnt fit into the reality they made up...so you are stuck with 2 choices, make up another set of rules or revert back to the real life rules. You can do this once or twice and people will just shrug it off but once you start doing this 6 or 7 times people will notice even if they cant put their fingers on it.
One last example, if you are watching a Die Hard movie, you understand that the reality is that Bruce Willis is superhuman...thats the rules everyone accepts them. So when he jumps through a plate glass window you register it as something acceptable in that reality. Now compare that to The Walking Dead in which the reality is....same old earth...just with zombies. So its hard to take someone carrying a grenade in their back pocket and jumping out of an explosion.
Its just a poorly written show but its the only show of its kind so people put up with it.
All fair points. Just drives me nuts that so many people keep watching a show that's driving them nuts and whining about the same shit every week. Thread's getting almost as bad as the Heroe's thread the 2nd and 3rd season of that show. So I'll do the same I did with that series and just watch and enjoy and not bother with the thread anymore.
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Its funny that you mention Heroes because its famous for doing the same thing. It was another show that broke all the rules of reality which was fine but then struggled to keep the show within those rules. So they basically kept having to make up different sets of rules over and over.
I know you hate to see the bitching but there is a very tangible reason behind it. My problem is that there is nothing forcing them to reach for these new rules each week, you didnt have to ever show Lori leaving the farm, you could have brought the same idea across in another way. Just lazy or management just wants them to spit out whatever and call it a day.
I know you hate to see the bitching but there is a very tangible reason behind it. My problem is that there is nothing forcing them to reach for these new rules each week, you didnt have to ever show Lori leaving the farm, you could have brought the same idea across in another way. Just lazy or management just wants them to spit out whatever and call it a day.
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[quote name='dmaul1114']All fair points. Just drives me nuts that so many people keep watching a show that's driving them nuts and whining about the same shit every week. Thread's getting almost as bad as the Heroe's thread the 2nd and 3rd season of that show. So I'll do the same I did with that series and just watch and enjoy and not bother with the thread anymore.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I couldn't agree more.
Yeah, I couldn't agree more.
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If I were the black guy, I'd be pretty pissed with how my character was being developed. He seemed interesting when the show started with all the racial tension Rick stumbled into when he found the group. But since then he just cut his arm, got a fever, and that was about it. He's clearly the brawn of the group and never gets utilized. I don't even think they ever mentioned any kind of history for him. Is he a gangbanger? Did he work at Dairy Queen?
I can't even remember his damn name right now. He's like Scott and/or Steve on Lost at this point.
I can't even remember his damn name right now. He's like Scott and/or Steve on Lost at this point.
[quote name='crunchb3rry']If I were the black guy, I'd be pretty pissed with how my character was being developed. He seemed interesting when the show started with all the racial tension Rick stumbled into when he found the group. But since then he just cut his arm, got a fever, and that was about it. He's clearly the brawn of the group and never gets utilized. I don't even think they ever mentioned any kind of history for him. Is he a gangbanger? Did he work at Dairy Queen?
I can't even remember his damn name right now. He's like Scott and/or Steve on Lost at this point.[/QUOTE]
lol thats how i feel most of them are forgettable and the show would be better off if many of them died and they focused more on survival and cut down on the emotional high school drama. one big herd to thin the group and get them back to being scared and staying alert.
I can't even remember his damn name right now. He's like Scott and/or Steve on Lost at this point.[/QUOTE]
lol thats how i feel most of them are forgettable and the show would be better off if many of them died and they focused more on survival and cut down on the emotional high school drama. one big herd to thin the group and get them back to being scared and staying alert.
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[quote name='crunchb3rry']If I were the black guy, I'd be pretty pissed with how my character was being developed. He seemed interesting when the show started with all the racial tension Rick stumbled into when he found the group. But since then he just cut his arm, got a fever, and that was about it. He's clearly the brawn of the group and never gets utilized. I don't even think they ever mentioned any kind of history for him. Is he a gangbanger? Did he work at Dairy Queen?
I can't even remember his damn name right now. He's like Scott and/or Steve on Lost at this point.[/QUOTE]
Token, dawg! Actually, I think it is T-dawg and he really seems to fulfil the EEO slot on the show. Hopefully the T doesn't stand for Tyresse. At this point, I think the best thing the show can continue to do is deviate from the comics and justify itself. I loved the comics (well, trade paperbacks anyways) but am even losing interest in them ever since they arrived in DC. The show has had some decent scenes, but sometimes the sideplots are just plain stupid.
Rick, Glenn, and Dale are fine to compare to their comic counterparts, but the rest of the cast is better off being developed as their own characters. For the show, I think the most interesting people are Shane and Darryl.
I can't even remember his damn name right now. He's like Scott and/or Steve on Lost at this point.[/QUOTE]
Token, dawg! Actually, I think it is T-dawg and he really seems to fulfil the EEO slot on the show. Hopefully the T doesn't stand for Tyresse. At this point, I think the best thing the show can continue to do is deviate from the comics and justify itself. I loved the comics (well, trade paperbacks anyways) but am even losing interest in them ever since they arrived in DC. The show has had some decent scenes, but sometimes the sideplots are just plain stupid.
Rick, Glenn, and Dale are fine to compare to their comic counterparts, but the rest of the cast is better off being developed as their own characters. For the show, I think the most interesting people are Shane and Darryl.
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[quote name='Javery']I thought it was a good episode. I loved how they showed that walker trying to get Lori in the car and it basically didn't care that the glass was scraping off its face to get at her. Also, the walkers eating that dude's face was pretty sick too.
I do think they need to leave the farm or have it get overrun with walkers. It does seem like they are completely safe there. Daryl has a fire going and is living outside in a tent and doesn't seem at all concerned or scared. I know I'd be in a constant state of fear every time the sun went down no matter where I was.[/QUOTE]
Pretty much this. From an in-universe logic standpoint, why would they leave the farm? It's safe. I'm caught up in the comic and
I'm hoping for an overrun to 1) keep the tension going and 2) force the story forward. I'd love to see them
I do think they need to leave the farm or have it get overrun with walkers. It does seem like they are completely safe there. Daryl has a fire going and is living outside in a tent and doesn't seem at all concerned or scared. I know I'd be in a constant state of fear every time the sun went down no matter where I was.[/QUOTE]
Pretty much this. From an in-universe logic standpoint, why would they leave the farm? It's safe. I'm caught up in the comic and
After the barn shootout (where several characters died) Herschel basically kicked Rick's group out.
I'm hoping for an overrun to 1) keep the tension going and 2) force the story forward. I'd love to see them
head to the prison.
[quote name='Soodmeg']Nawwww buddy. Shows do require some suspension of disbelief but they are clearly taking it to the point of almost offending your intelligence.
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I'm all fine with suspension of disbelief, but when you can't keep the story straight from the start it's really annoying and I really can't help pointing out stuff...
I watch the show as an example of exactly everything NOT to do when a Zombie apocalypse hits...
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I'm all fine with suspension of disbelief, but when you can't keep the story straight from the start it's really annoying and I really can't help pointing out stuff...
I watch the show as an example of exactly everything NOT to do when a Zombie apocalypse hits...
[quote name='shieryda']What I'm also surprised about is the fact that they're not trying to scrounge more for supplies and ammo. They were just in town looking for the farmer dude (who they found at the bar), so I'm sure there's a hardware store or gun shop nearby.[/QUOTE]
man they're on a magical farm where they grow cars have unlimited ammo and have endless supplies of gasoline and the food they eat falls from the sky
man they're on a magical farm where they grow cars have unlimited ammo and have endless supplies of gasoline and the food they eat falls from the sky
[quote name='VipFREAK']I'm all fine with suspension of disbelief, but when you can't keep the story straight from the start it's really annoying and I really can't help pointing out stuff...
I watch the show as an example of exactly everything NOT to do when a Zombie apocalypse hits...[/QUOTE]
lol no shit by now they should all be dead but oddly enough the farm has anti zombie magic protecting it. funny thing though i wondered why they didnt settle in that one community ( where the zombies were in the church) that place looked pretty ideal seeing as its way back in the woods away from the road and its small enough to protect and fortify.
heres to hoping they move from the farm sooner rather than 2 seasons later......and that lori and all the other annoying characters die.....or that umbrella corp makes a surprise appearance and they unleash the nemesis on them all lol hell at this rate anything is possible.
I watch the show as an example of exactly everything NOT to do when a Zombie apocalypse hits...[/QUOTE]
lol no shit by now they should all be dead but oddly enough the farm has anti zombie magic protecting it. funny thing though i wondered why they didnt settle in that one community ( where the zombies were in the church) that place looked pretty ideal seeing as its way back in the woods away from the road and its small enough to protect and fortify.
heres to hoping they move from the farm sooner rather than 2 seasons later......and that lori and all the other annoying characters die.....or that umbrella corp makes a surprise appearance and they unleash the nemesis on them all lol hell at this rate anything is possible.
[quote name='Purple Flames']I'm hoping for an overrun to 1) keep the tension going and 2) force the story forward. I'd love to see them
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I don't want to spoil it since you aren't there yet, but
tl;dr keep reading the graphic novel.
/edit: I'm not sure if you meant that you were caught up to the point they were at in the show or if you meant you're caught up to the weekly releases.. either way, I stopped reading after the prison bit. I have the next few books following that part, but I just haven't had the time/will to read them.
head to the prison.
I don't want to spoil it since you aren't there yet, but
the prison leads to them discovering something, which would be the best cliffhanger for season 2.. which would make season 3 amazing.. which would lead to the most amazing/unbelievable season 3 cliffhanger ever. There is NO way they will keep the storyline the same with the prison, though. No way.
tl;dr keep reading the graphic novel.
/edit: I'm not sure if you meant that you were caught up to the point they were at in the show or if you meant you're caught up to the weekly releases.. either way, I stopped reading after the prison bit. I have the next few books following that part, but I just haven't had the time/will to read them.
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lol...this thread is ridiculous.
This is the most reasonable post I've seen in here lately.
[quote name='Javery']I'll be pitching one... in my pants.[/QUOTE]
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This is the most reasonable post I've seen in here lately.
[quote name='Javery']I'll be pitching one... in my pants.[/QUOTE]
+10 for Javery!
[quote name='Scorch']Here we go.. David Morrissey has been cast as
.
I wonder if they're going to put
in the show. If they do, I vote for Trina McGee.. the girl that played Angela in the Boy Meets World series.[/QUOTE]
nah shes too thin i vote for the oldest girl from the bernie mack show if not her then maybe that black chick from death proof.or better yet oif she could do an american accent the chick from 28 days later would kill that role.
morrisey has a good look for the governor but , and i know itd never happen, itd be cool to see daniel day lewis play that role.
The Governor
I wonder if they're going to put
Michonne
nah shes too thin i vote for the oldest girl from the bernie mack show if not her then maybe that black chick from death proof.or better yet oif she could do an american accent the chick from 28 days later would kill that role.
morrisey has a good look for the governor but , and i know itd never happen, itd be cool to see daniel day lewis play that role.
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Damn, it seemed like they were gearing Merle up to be The Governor.
Gina Torres (from Firefly) would be a
ing awesome Michonne. Fingers crossed. Would amp up the show's nerd cred too.
Gina Torres (from Firefly) would be a
ing awesome Michonne. Fingers crossed. Would amp up the show's nerd cred too.
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[quote name='Scorch']I don't want to spoil it since you aren't there yet, but
tl;dr keep reading the graphic novel.
/edit: I'm not sure if you meant that you were caught up to the point they were at in the show or if you meant you're caught up to the weekly releases.. either way, I stopped reading after the prison bit. I have the next few books following that part, but I just haven't had the time/will to read them.[/QUOTE]
No worries. I'm completely up-to-date on the comic. I marathoned it over the last week.
the prison leads to them discovering something, which would be the best cliffhanger for season 2.. which would make season 3 amazing.. which would lead to the most amazing/unbelievable season 3 cliffhanger ever. There is NO way they will keep the storyline the same with the prison, though. No way.
tl;dr keep reading the graphic novel.
/edit: I'm not sure if you meant that you were caught up to the point they were at in the show or if you meant you're caught up to the weekly releases.. either way, I stopped reading after the prison bit. I have the next few books following that part, but I just haven't had the time/will to read them.[/QUOTE]
No worries. I'm completely up-to-date on the comic. I marathoned it over the last week.
[quote name='Scorch']I don't want to spoil it since you aren't there yet, but
tl;dr keep reading the graphic novel.
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chris redfield in the prison?
the prison leads to them discovering something, which would be the best cliffhanger for season 2.. which would make season 3 amazing.. which would lead to the most amazing/unbelievable season 3 cliffhanger ever. There is NO way they will keep the storyline the same with the prison, though. No way.
tl;dr keep reading the graphic novel.
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chris redfield in the prison?
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Ya, I dont really know how the Prison could even work in this version of the show. Quick spoilers for people who havent read the comic, people get raped, kids get killed, people get rid of their own body parts and most importantly half of everyone dies there.....some really heavy shit happens there.
I just dont see that fitting into what they have established now. I am eager to see how they mold this together. Plus do you honestly see them adding swords in a way that doesnt seem cheesy?
I just dont see that fitting into what they have established now. I am eager to see how they mold this together. Plus do you honestly see them adding swords in a way that doesnt seem cheesy?
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[quote name='Soodmeg']Ya, I dont really know how the Prison could even work in this version of the show. Quick spoilers for people who havent read the comic,
I just dont see that fitting into what they have established now. I am eager to see how they mold this together. Plus do you honestly see them adding swords in a way that doesnt seem cheesy?[/QUOTE]
I'm sure they won't do a straight adaptation of the story arc. They'll likely just move the cast there and do their own thing while keeping in a few things from the comic. I'm pretty sure that
people get raped, kids get killed, people get rid of their own body parts and most importantly half of everyone dies there.....some really heavy shit happens there.
I just dont see that fitting into what they have established now. I am eager to see how they mold this together. Plus do you honestly see them adding swords in a way that doesnt seem cheesy?[/QUOTE]
I'm sure they won't do a straight adaptation of the story arc. They'll likely just move the cast there and do their own thing while keeping in a few things from the comic. I'm pretty sure that
Rick won't lose his hand or that there'll be a long-drawn out torture scene between Michonne and The Govenor.
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I understand that but there was a LOT of stuff that went down at the prison. Hell, we dont even have the two kids that got killed in the story yet.
There is just soooooo much story there and its such a pivotal part of carls transformation, Ricks new outlook on the world and his family, what happens to Shane (I cant possible believe that Shane will "leave" in this version, he is the only person anyone seems to care about) their rivalry with the city and the Governor, Michonne's shin dig.
I guess what I am saying is I would rather have them make up a new story arc without the prison or the Governor if its going to be so neutered that you cant even grasp why the Prison is so important to the story. I dont want it to wind up like whatever the hell that government stronghold was in the first season.
Also, now that it looks like they are finally leaving the farm I really think they missed the mark with it and why it was the first really important stop in the story. They spent far too much time on looking for that girl and not enough time on the fact that she was already there. They never established why half the people wanted to stay and the other half wanted to leave....they kinda just dumped it solely on rick and shane.
I think this is because they never seem to be able to establish that the farm was vastly safer than the rest of the world....seeing as they kept leaving constantly without any consequence. What do you guys think about the Farm story arc? To me it seems very forgettable just like that government thing in the first season.
There is just soooooo much story there and its such a pivotal part of carls transformation, Ricks new outlook on the world and his family, what happens to Shane (I cant possible believe that Shane will "leave" in this version, he is the only person anyone seems to care about) their rivalry with the city and the Governor, Michonne's shin dig.
I guess what I am saying is I would rather have them make up a new story arc without the prison or the Governor if its going to be so neutered that you cant even grasp why the Prison is so important to the story. I dont want it to wind up like whatever the hell that government stronghold was in the first season.
Also, now that it looks like they are finally leaving the farm I really think they missed the mark with it and why it was the first really important stop in the story. They spent far too much time on looking for that girl and not enough time on the fact that she was already there. They never established why half the people wanted to stay and the other half wanted to leave....they kinda just dumped it solely on rick and shane.
I think this is because they never seem to be able to establish that the farm was vastly safer than the rest of the world....seeing as they kept leaving constantly without any consequence. What do you guys think about the Farm story arc? To me it seems very forgettable just like that government thing in the first season.
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