America Held Hostage: Day 114

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America Held Hostage: Day 114
John Kerry** met with the Boston Globe's editorial board yesterday, and was asked the question that's on everyone's mind, or at least the mind of everyone who gets his kicks by cruelly tormenting ex-presidential candidates. Columnist Joan Vennochi has the story:

John Kerry is releasing all his military records--but then again, he isn't. . . . The former Democratic presidential nominee was asked if had signed Form SF 180, authorizing the Department of Defense to grant access to all his military records.

''I have signed it," Kerry said. Then, he added that his staff was ''still going through it" and ''very, very shortly, you will have a chance to see it."

The devil is usually in the details. With Kerry, it's also in the dodges and digressions. After the interview, Kerry's communications director, David Wade, was asked to clarify when Kerry signed SF 180 and when public access would be granted. Kerry drifted over to join the conversation, immediately raising the confusion level. He did not answer the question of when he signed the form or when the entire record will be made public.

Several e-mails later, Wade conveyed the following information: On Friday, May 20, Kerry obtained a copy of Form 180 and signed it. ''The next step is to send it to the Navy, which will happen in the next few days. The Navy will then send out the records," e-mailed Wade. Kerry first said he would sign Form 180 when pressed by Tim Russert during a Jan. 30 appearance on ''Meet the Press."

Kerry reiterated that the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth did not tell the truth about him, and said: "The truth in its entirety will come out . . . the truth will come out." After all this waiting, it better be good.


http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110006731
 
What's your point? You're quoting an editorial opinion. Sounds like the author just has his head up his ass.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']If there's a point here, I sure as hell don't know what it is.[/QUOTE]

I think the point is that Bush sucks so hard that his supporters want to dwell on the scummy yet successful tactics used for his election win rather then discuss his current predicament.
 
[quote name='camoor']I think the point is that Bush sucks so hard that his supporters want to dwell on the scummy yet successful tactics used for his election win rather then discuss his current predicament.[/QUOTE]

Yeah thats it.

How many seats did you guys lose in the House and Senate this time?

Who is in a predicament?

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[quote name='CTLesq']Yeah thats it.

How many seats did you guys lose in the House and Senate this time?

Who is in a predicament?

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Now that the Republicans rule the government, their only excuse for an increasing death toll and expanding federal government is the "liberal media", and as old Scotty found out today that excuse is starting to wear thin...
 
[quote name='camoor']Now that the Republicans rule the government, their only excuse for an increasing death toll and expanding federal government is the "liberal media", and as old Scotty found out today that excuse is starting to wear thin...[/QUOTE]

Only on video game websites....
 
[quote name='CTLesq']Only on video game websites....[/QUOTE]

Zing! Oh wait, scratch that. Actually it's far more global than just videogame websites. It's apparent you're a FoxNews watcher, so I'm sure you've heard plenty about how the Liberal media is trying to undermine the Bush administration.
 
I fail to see the so-called "point".

You are blasting John Kerry for not releasing his fll records while Bush backed out on his promise by blacking out his own records.
 
[quote name='BigSpoonyBard']Zing! Oh wait, scratch that. Actually it's far more global than just videogame websites. It's apparent you're a FoxNews watcher, so I'm sure you've heard plenty about how the Liberal media is trying to undermine the Bush administration.[/QUOTE]

Negative. I am a Newshour with Jim Lehrer watcher....its the best news on TV. I have said this before.

In fact I TiVo it.

Try again....
 
Unless John Kerry's military records show he had a less distinguished career than a C-grade silver spoon whose daddy's friends got a cushy spot in the Texas National Guard who then couldn't even be bothered to finish that commitment probably because he was too coked up to pass a flight physical, then I'm not too concerned about them.

Bush promised all his "military" records as well and there's still no written record that he fulfilled his duty.
 
[quote name='MrBadExample']Unless John Kerry's military records show he had a less distinguished career than a C-grade silver spoon whose daddy's friends got a cushy spot in the Texas National Guard who then couldn't even be bothered to finish that commitment probably because he was too coked up to pass a flight physical, then I'm not too concerned about them.

Bush promised all his "military" records as well and there's still no written record that he fulfilled his duty.[/QUOTE]

I don't recall Bush running on his Viet Nam War record.

Thats the point.
 
[quote name='CTLesq']I don't recall Bush running on his Viet Nam War record.

Thats the point.[/QUOTE]

Neither was Kerry, that's just how conservative media outlets portrayed it.
 
[quote name='CTLesq']I don't recall Bush running on his Viet Nam War record.

Thats the point.[/QUOTE]

Like that was a real choice for Dubya.
 
[quote name='MrBadExample']Like that was a real choice for Dubya.[/QUOTE]

I am not arguing about Bush. That was your "point" or lack thereof.

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[quote name='CTLesq']I am not arguing about Bush. That was your "point" or lack thereof.

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But somehow you're arguing that Kerry's military records are important now - almost seven months after the election. Who cares?

My point is whatever Kerry's military records show, he has a much more distinguished military career than Dubya.

Kerry = war hero. GWB = chickenhawk.
 
[quote name='MrBadExample']But somehow you're arguing that Kerry's military records are important now - almost seven months after the election. Who cares?

My point is whatever Kerry's military records show, he has a much more distinguished military career than Dubya.

Kerry = war hero. GWB = chickenhawk.[/QUOTE]

Kind of like arguing about wether we should have invaded Iraq 2 years after the fact?
 
[quote name='CTLesq']Kind of like arguing about wether we should have invaded Iraq 2 years after the fact?[/QUOTE]

The Nazi's killed 6 million Jews, but since it's over lets just forget about it and call it good.
 
[quote name='CTLesq']Kind of like arguing about wether we should have invaded Iraq 2 years after the fact?[/QUOTE]

Kerry, lost, records released or not he would have lost. Iraq is important to learn from mistakes we made, and whether the reasons used in Iraq are valid for future adventures.

Besides, Iraq is still ongoing, kerry's campaign isn't.
 
[quote name='CTLesq']Kind of like arguing about wether we should have invaded Iraq 2 years after the fact?[/QUOTE]

Kerry's military records aren't getting anyone killed right now.
 
[quote name='MrBadExample']Kerry's military records aren't getting anyone killed right now.[/QUOTE]

Don't you hate it when your shitty analogies just don't work out?

But I love how you fail to blame American combat deaths on the terrorists who cause them.

115 days and no records produced.
 
[quote name='CTLesq']Don't you hate it when your shitty analogies just don't work out?

But I love how you fail to blame American combat deaths on the terrorists who cause them.

115 days and no records produced.[/QUOTE]

You're confusing "terrorists" with "insurgents". Or that's at least what the republican leadership has been trying to confuse the public with.

And how does the MBE's argument "not work out"? I'd like to hear this one...
 
[quote name='E-Z-B']You're confusing "terrorists" with "insurgents". Or that's at least what the republican leadership has been trying to confuse the public with.

And how does the MBE's argument "not work out"? I'd like to hear this one...[/QUOTE]

Well, GWB's military records aren't getting anyone killed now; the fabricated rationale constructed by he and his administration certainly is. In some small way, CLB is right. Buffoonery, to be sure, but technically correct buffoonery.

Terrorists? Insurgents? Feh. They're brown, aren't they? Bombs away!

myke.
...I kinda like this CLB guy: he kinda has that Brian Fellows like quality to him.

CLB: "Kerry's holding the country hostage."
Others: "What in the fuck are you talking about?"
CLB: "I'm Brian Fellow!"
 
[quote name='E-Z-B']You're confusing "terrorists" with "insurgents". Or that's at least what the republican leadership has been trying to confuse the public with....[/QUOTE]

As someone who has been to Iraq - they are all terrorists.

[quote name='E-Z-B']And how does the MBE's argument "not work out"? I'd like to hear this one...[/QUOTE]

If your defense on Kerry not releasing his records is that its 7 months after the fact and he lost the election, then discussing wether we should have invaded Iraq 2 years after the fact is moot even moreso.

Its not that his argument doesn't work, its that its logical extension cuts you people off at the knees.

What do you think this thread was really about? Kerry? Hardly.

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