Any regrets with your VC purchases?

I bought Mario 64 right after launch. I sort of regret it. They just cost too much. If they were 5/2.50/1.00 (N64/SNES/NES) I would buy at least 10 of them right now. Unless Nintendo drops the prices at least in half I'll stick to my other methods of obtaining these games :boxing:
 
I have Super Mario Brothers, Gunstar Heroes, and Bomberman.

I don't regret any of them. SMB is great game to pick up and play for 15 minutes or so by yourself. GH is a great game for 2 players, and Bomberman is good for 4 players. They give me a fall back to play on my Wii when I don't feel like playing any of my other games. Considering I got the points for free from that tru.com signup offer, it was definately worth it. I'm just waiting till I can pick up some more points for free or heavily discounted somewhere.
 
[quote name='lilboo']

So, I'm not trying to waste any points.. because with $47 (all free! THANK YOU GAMING LAGOON!!) eventuaylly sitting in my account..I'm gonna try and make it last as long as possible..trying to save for whenever one of them REALLY must have games.

Did i mention THANK YOU GAMING LAGOON ?! lol[/quote]

I agree with your last statement for sure! Gaming Lagoon has given me 3200 MS Points...hopefully more someday...

I had to buy the Wii Points myself! What I would like to know is what games you REALLY want to get. There are so many great games out there now for every system I cannot think what you are saving all that for. I bet it is for Re-Volt. fuck (Shaq-fu!) I hated that game. Worst game I ever bought.
 
One of the main reasons I bought a Wii was for the VC, but I haven't gotten around to buying any games yet. I really want Super Mario World and Mario Kart 64 though.
 
I've bought:
Super Mario Bros
Kirby's Adventure
Mario Kart 64

But I only regret Mario Kart, sucks without having anybody to play multiplayer with. And the DS one is so much better.
 
[quote name='zyblorg']I'm relieved to read this and other denunciations of Gunstar Heroes -- and of shoot'em ups in general. Gunstar Heroes is one game I bought because of the raves online -- all the others I bought because I had enjoyed playing them in the past. The chaos of Gunstar Heroes doesn't appeal to me one bit. It's like an overcaffeinated child -- with an endless arsenal. No thanks.[/quote]

Let me put Gunstar Heroes in perspective for you.

The Genesis was a great machine. I owned one for quite a while before I got an SNES too. But it was limited, and this was especially apparent after the SNES came out.

The SNES had more colors, better sound, and hardware scaling and rotation. Almost without fail, put a Genesis and an SNES game next to each other, and the SNES would be prettier and sound better. It didn't always play better, but there were times the Genesis looked and sounded awful in comparison. I own both. I love both. But it's true.

Enter Gunstar Heroes. Bright and colorful instead of muddy or dithered, and loud with sounds and music instruments had never been heard before. Right off the bat, with the rotating Gunstar Heroes logo, it was clear that Treasure had thrown out the Genesis programming manual and done something amazing. The Genesis couldn't rotate anything, yet there it was.

The Genesis didn't do 3D, much less have bosses made out of 3D cubes apparently walking in three dimensions. The Genesis had slowdown problems with a lot of stuff on the screen, but here were enemies, lasers, and huge vehicles all over the place. The Genesis didn't have large, colorful bosses rotating and scaling. And yet there it all was.

But, as amazing as the graphics and sound were, it wouldn't have meant anything without a game. Did you know that there weren't a whole lot of cooperative 2 player games at the time? Did you know that anything that looked like anime was marketing poison at the time? Did you know that the idea of a board game in the middle of a shooter was unheard of and years before Mario Party?

Gunstar Heroes' design was years ahead of its time. Being able to choose the stages, loads of colorful and amazing boss fights, constantly changing enviroments and situations -- these things were not everyday. In a side scrolling shooter, you were lucky if you got stages that looked different, much less ones that played completely different.

I, for one, don't really care for shooters. But I love Gunstar Heroes. There's so much to discover, new things around every corner, and a good dose of humor and charm. It's like a huge bomb of creativity exploded in all directions.

Gunstar Heroes is hyper and loud and bright and jangly. There's nothing else that looks or sounds like it on the Genesis, and that was the point. But underneath all the color and stuff flying everywhere and music that's initially ear-splitting, there's a good, fun, and deep game.

Maybe you had to be there to appreciate it, since all the flash and graphics are antiquated and ho-hum now. Two player cooperative games are plentiful, anime is everywhere, board games are commonplace, and games are so much bigger and diverse now that even something as adventurous as Gunstar Heroes now seems quaint.

I do think there's more than nostalgia at work. There are Genesis and SNES games that I would consider unplayable and unpalatble now. Gunstar Heroes is not one of them.
 
solomons key, toejam& earl, and gradius have been mine.

I've got I think 15+ purchases over VC as of today, but I might buy SG&G cause I remember fucking that game up as a kid and I wanna fuck it up now.
 
[quote name='DrFoo']I bought Mario 64 right after launch. I sort of regret it. They just cost too much. If they were 5/2.50/1.00 (N64/SNES/NES) I would buy at least 10 of them right now. Unless Nintendo drops the prices at least in half I'll stick to my other methods of obtaining these games :boxing:[/QUOTE]

Show me where you can get a 480p copy of Mario 64 delivered to your door. Only then will I agree with you that these games cost too much. Hell, it'll be hard to find TG-16 games for under $5 delivered to you in a way that'll make you say, "Wow, that was a deal!" Once you factor in everything, this shit is not that expensive.
 
I have:

Mario 64
Mario Kart 64
Zelda: LTTP
Gunstar
Sonic

I regret getting Gunstar and MK64. Gunstar just is too tough for me, and I don't have anyone skilled around to play it with. MK64 just didn't hold up to the nostalgia. It's the one game I bought which I owned for the N64 and loved, but time has not been kind.
 
[quote name='munch']Show me where you can get a 480p copy of Mario 64 delivered to your door. Only then will I agree with you that these games cost too much. Hell, it'll be hard to find TG-16 games for under $5 delivered to you in a way that'll make you say, "Wow, that was a deal!" Once you factor in everything, this shit is not that expensive.[/QUOTE]


Emulation my friend.
 
[quote name='munch']Show me where you can get a 480p copy of Mario 64 delivered to your door. Only then will I agree with you that these games cost too much. Hell, it'll be hard to find TG-16 games for under $5 delivered to you in a way that'll make you say, "Wow, that was a deal!" Once you factor in everything, this shit is not that expensive.[/QUOTE]


I havent yet purchased any games for the VC (waiting on a few TG16 games I dont have for the console already, and Neo Geo games), but I agree with the above statement... granted there are a few games (cough... Urban Champion...cough) that are rip offs though
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Emulation my friend.[/QUOTE]

Illegal, my friend, unless you already own the cart which defeats the purpose of buying it on the VC which makes the entire point moot.
 
[quote name='munch']Illegal, my friend, unless you already own the cart which defeats the purpose of buying it on the VC which makes the entire point moot.[/QUOTE]

I don't care about legality.

I'm willing to pay to have a legal copy, and to play on my couch/TV, but not the current rates.

Thus they are overpriced for me as I have no problem with having illegal ROMs.

Also, any many cases I do have the carts, I just don't have room to hook up the consoles, and/or don't want a bunch of ugly old consoles trashing up my living room/home theater. So most of my NES/SNES/Genesis games are just in boxes at my parents or stuck in one of my closets.

So the VC does still have a point even for games you still own---convenience. But again the current prices are about 2x to pay for simple convenience.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']
Thus they are overpriced for me as I have no problem with having illegal ROMs.
[/QUOTE]

And others care about legality and don't find them to be overpriced.

So it's all a difference of opinion.
 
[quote name='Strell']And others care about legality and don't find them to be overpriced.

So it's all a difference of opinion.[/QUOTE]\

Totally agreed. I was just explaining why I think they are overpriced in the same vain as munch explaining why he doesn't think they are.

Another reason they are overpriced is 99% of the games don't hold up well, and the ones that due I still have carts for--so it's just not worth shelling out for convenience.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']I don't care about legality.
I'm willing to pay to have a legal copy, and to play on my couch/TV, but not the current rates.

Thus they are overpriced for me as I have no problem with having illegal ROMs.
[/QUOTE]

Thus, we have an impasse.

[quote name='dmaul1114']
Also, any many cases I do have the carts, I just don't have room to hook up the consoles, and/or don't want a bunch of ugly old consoles trashing up my living room/home theater. So most of my NES/SNES/Genesis games are just in boxes at my parents or stuck in one of my closets.

So the VC does still have a point even for games you still own---convenience. But again the current prices are about 2x to pay for simple convenience.[/QUOTE]

So, then, it is worth it? I mean, you have all of those carts sitting in your room which you can sell for at least how much they cost on the VC. AND you can have them all hooked up onto one console? That sounds like a hell of a deal to me. And from the way you are talking, it sounds like you agree but don't want to admit it.
 
[quote name='munch']
So, then, it is worth it? I mean, you have all of those carts sitting in your room which you can sell for at least how much they cost on the VC. AND you can have them all hooked up onto one console? That sounds like a hell of a deal to me. And from the way you are talking, it sounds like you agree but don't want to admit it.[/QUOTE]

We just disagree over price.

I think it's worth it for the convenience if the NES games were $2-3 the SNES $5, N64 I don't give a crap about as most of the games don't hold up well today (same with PS1--both just total shit 3D graphics).

Selling the carts is just too much hassle for me as I just don't have the time with work and grad school to list them, pack them, ship them out etc.
 
I dabbled in ROMs a long time ago, but that was back before I had any sort of income or knew better.

The advantages of the VC:
1. It's legal.
2. The games work! Emulating can be a big crapshoot. Some games only work with program X, and some only work with program Y - some, you can't get to work at all.
3. Show me a convenient way to get 4-5 friends together to play some oldschool games via an emulator. Thanks to the VC, we're able to sit in the same room and use comfortable controllers to play some classic games.
4. This one may be a bit subjective, but it's probably the biggest reason for me. When you have access to thousands of games, you don't really get the same enjoyment from them. You might play a game for 5 minutes, and then go try another game for 5 minutes, etc. With the VC, I have to pick and choose my games, and I notice that I'm able to really focus time on them, and enjoy them more than I ever have via an emulator.

Getting back on topic, here's what I've purchased:
NES - Super Mario Bros., Ice Hockey, Solomon's Key
SNES - Super Mario World
GEN - Toe Jam & Earl
TG16 - Bomberman '93
N64 - Mario Kart 64

My only regrets are Solomon's Key and Toe Jam & Earl. The former being an impulse buy when I'd never heard of it before and the latter being a childhood favorite. TJ & E just didn't live up to my memory of it, which is a shame, because I used to love that game.
 
[quote name='rendil']4. This one may be a bit subjective, but it's probably the biggest reason for me. When you have access to thousands of games, you don't really get the same enjoyment from them. You might play a game for 5 minutes, and then go try another game for 5 minutes, etc. With the VC, I have to pick and choose my games, and I notice that I'm able to really focus time on them, and enjoy them more than I ever have via an emulator.[/quote]

This bodes true for me. Back when I used roms I found that I appreciated the games far less. I had free admission to play some of the greatest games ever, and I barely ever touched them.

Now that I can actually pay to play these classics, I'm much more appreciative of the opportunity.
 
I still only have a tiny handful of ROMs, so that issue isn't big to me.

I just don't have a ton of desire to replay old games versus playing new games given my busy schedule. I can't even come close to keeping up with new releases.
 
I only regret downloading Bomberman and Solomon's Key. I've never been a huge bomberman fan and Solomon's Key was an impulse buy that just didn't find fun
 
so far i've downloaded these:
R-type
Bonk
alien crush
gunstar heroes
Zelda OoT

the only one i regret is Alien Crush, its one i wanted to play back in the day and never did, turns out i wasnt missing much.
 
[quote name='blandstalker']

Maybe you had to be there to appreciate it, since all the flash and graphics are antiquated and ho-hum now. Two player cooperative games are plentiful, anime is everywhere, board games are commonplace, and games are so much bigger and diverse now that even something as adventurous as Gunstar Heroes now seems quaint.[/quote]

No wonder I feel like I wasted my money with Gunstar Heroes. It has three things I hate: multiplayer, anime and board games.
 
I've been waaaay more into VC than I thought I would be. Up until recently, I've purchased something nearly every week.
I own:
Gunstar Heroes
Super Castlevania IV
Contra III
Super Mario World
Super Mario Brothers
SimCity
Kirby's Adventure
Kid Icarus
LoZ: Link to the Past
Streets of Rage
Bonk's Adventure
Mario 64
Toe Jam & Earl
Vigilante
Wario's Woods

I think I fell into Nintendo's trap. I finished Twilight Princess, Trauma Center, played Wii Sports and even liked Wii Play more than most, but then...nothing left to do but buy VC titles.
The only ones I regret are Vigilante and Wario's Woods. But I had to own WW because I think it was the very last NES game or something and it's just a good conversation piece (not a very good puzzle game though). Vigilante is just crap, it's like the radioactive bastard offspring of Double Dragon, but those TG16 games are such a trap. No one had one, so you just sort of take a shot in the dark. Bonk wasn't as good as I remember hearing back in the day. All the game magazines raved over it.
My whole thing is that No. 1 - I love filling those channel windows (mine are spilling onto the third page) and No. 2 - the convenience is just too much too overcome. I turn on the Wii to check the weather (well, the weather 6 hours ago) and all of a sudden I'm buying something.
For people that just love gaming, though, it's such a wonderful thing. Even if I don't like all the games, I feel like it's important just to have them.
The ones that hold up the best are LttP (of course), Mario World, Castlevania IV (more fun than I remembered, Streets of Rage (awesome soundtrack, so-so gameplay), Kirby and Contra. I sort of regret SimCity, but I wanted it when I was a kid and mom wouldnt spring for it.
Best of the bunch? Kirby. This game is amazing and still fresh. I can't believe I never played it. I would have paid $20 for it. If you're on the fence, buy it.
Second place is Contra, which beats the hell out of Gunstar Heroes as far as those type games go. The graphics were good, the weapons awesome and the Mode 7 stuff wasn't even that bad. Easily worth at least $15.
I'm hooked. VC kicks ass!
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']I don't care about legality.

I'm willing to pay to have a legal copy, and to play on my couch/TV, but not the current rates.

Thus they are overpriced for me as I have no problem with having illegal ROMs.

Also, any many cases I do have the carts, I just don't have room to hook up the consoles, and/or don't want a bunch of ugly old consoles trashing up my living room/home theater. So most of my NES/SNES/Genesis games are just in boxes at my parents or stuck in one of my closets.

So the VC does still have a point even for games you still own---convenience. But again the current prices are about 2x to pay for simple convenience.[/QUOTE]
Yeah that's pretty much the same as my logic. I have an xbox controller adaptor for my PC and my TV has a VGA input. I would certainly pay to have a legal version of the games and to be able to play them from the Wii (much easier than moving a desktop) but the prices are just too high.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Emulation my friend.[/QUOTE]

That's like saying console games are too expensive because you can just steal one from the store. Or if you want a closer comparison, you can just mod your console now.
 
[quote name='Mr Unoriginal']That's like saying console games are too expensive because you can just steal one from the store. Or if you want a closer comparison, you can just mod your console now.[/QUOTE]

I remember in one of the college apartments I lived in (I don't get to pick my roommates being an RA), one of my suitemates also had an XBox and was looking at my collection and asked about Burnout 3, which I had just got for like $10 during a sale. I was saying it was great, and he was like "oh cool, I'll just burn it to my hard drive sometime."

Uhh...

I never did let him borrow it.
 
[quote name='Mr Unoriginal']That's like saying console games are too expensive because you can just steal one from the store. Or if you want a closer comparison, you can just mod your console now.[/QUOTE]


Partly. Though part of the difference is 99% of the old games I still have any interest in playing I still have carts for so the emulation isn't illegal.

There aren't many old games I ever wanted to play that I didn't eventually buy at some point over the years.

So for me it's just a matter of whether the VC prices are worth the convenience of being able to play on the couch/TV without having to drag out the old consoles and games.

At the current rates the are not for me, and I'd rather just pop up the ROM on the PC when I feel like playing an old game for the most part.
 
[quote name='Roufuss']Wrong.

All the Wii VC games are updated to play in 480p, and the N64 games are cleaned up as well.

Playing LttP in 480p on an HDTV sure beats playing it on the SNES through composite on a regular tv.

Sure, it's not achievements, but to say these have no updates at all is ignorant.[/quote]

but that isn't an update... it's just allowing the same game to be fed through component cables instead of composite. I don't think there was any new coding involved (or maybe I'm ignorant?). Even if there was it still doesn't qualify as new content or anything to warrant a repurchse.
 
[quote name='javeryh']but that isn't an update... it's just allowing the same game to be fed through component cables instead of composite. I don't think there was any new coding involved (or maybe I'm ignorant?). Even if there was it still doesn't qualify as new content or anything to warrant a repurchse.[/QUOTE]

Try playing an N64 on an HD. I DARE YOU.
 
I could go the rest of my life with never playing an N64 again, or a PSX for that matter. 1st Gen 3D games just look like shit period and are near unplayable.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']I could go the rest of my life with never playing an N64 again, or a PSX for that matter. 1st Gen 3D games just look like shit period and are near unplayable.[/QUOTE]

Yup, I second that.

I have no VC purchases yet, therefore I have no regrets. I've got 87 games for my SNES and over 100 for my NES that I rarely play anymore. Anytime I feel like reliving the 'old days', I can go downstairs and play those old games and usually get bored after about 20-30 minutes anyway, so why spend all that extra money for an initial feeling of nostalga, then a whole lotta boredom?

Try playing Toe Jam and Earl for more than 20 minuites and you'll find yourself saying, "...what the fuck am I doing this for...?"
 
[quote name='SMMM']Try playing an N64 on an HD. I DARE YOU.[/QUOTE]

fuck, for that matter, try playing an NES / SNES on an HD... looks like shit.
 
I've bought:

Gunstar Heroes
Contra III
ToeJam and Earl

These were all favorites of mine back when they first came out in the early 1990's. Contra III seems even BETTER to me today, Gunstar feels about the same, and TJ&E feels much LONGER and TEDIOUS than it did back then. Still, I don't regret getting TJ&E because I still like running away from the Insane Dentist and knocking presents out of Santa Claus.
 
[quote name='bmulligan']Try playing Toe Jam and Earl for more than 20 minuites and you'll find yourself saying, "...what the fuck am I doing this for...?"[/quote]

Haha, that's exactly what I said while walking around on that stupid planet!

Luckily, it was just a rom.
No VC purchase for me on that one.
 
I hardly ever play Bomberman and Super Castlevania. But, I don't really regret them. I'm a Castlevania whore, and I don't own that one, so I bought it no matter what. Bomberman's damn music was in my head that day, so I took it as a sign.

I'm just waiting for Splatterhouse. I'm going to rip that game apart...very excited for it. Wish it was the arcade version though, I don't want Rick's red mask!
 
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