Anyone else dislike the idea of wireless controllers?

[quote name='tauruskatt']
how sad, I actually had to move my butt and plug in another contoller, [/QUOTE]

Heh, you said butt and plug in the same sentence.
 
My only concern is having to look for it without being able to trace the wire back from the console. It'd be like a tv remote. It'd also be wise if you could reset and power off your machine via the controller. DreamSnes on the Dreamcast lets you reset form your controller just something like that wirelessly and to be able to power down. The only negative I see to it being wireless is in theory it'll wear out faster, batteries and all tend to get to not wanna charge after a while. That and having to dig around looking for it without the wire to find it.
 
I don't really mind wireless, but I don't see the point in it either. Sure its great that you can travel X amount of miles away from your console and still have the controller work, but eye sight only works from so far away... Its not like you need all that extra room, at least not in most people's case, because you set up a couch or chair or whatever in front of your T.V. that is placed relatively close to you. I suppose tripping could be an issue, but how hard is it to watch your step?
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Not all of us are huddled up to a 13"-19" old TV like we were in the 80s-90s like when we were a kid. Try more like sitting 12 ft away from your 90" Projection screen, with the audio rack over on the side of the room.

And yes I can watch my step, but try watching the steps of 4-5 of your friends when they are over. SMASH goes the game system onto the floor. Or when the dog goes running across the room when someone rings the doorbell (he may be little but high velocity = Gamecube on the floor).

Ever since I got my first wavebird I've gotten every wireless controller I can get cheap. Multiplayer Mario Kart is so much better without all the tangled cords - and when we were playing Pac Man Vs this weekend the only cord was the one attached to the GBA SP (you have to switch controllers around to play).

There's no response time issues any more with wireless controllers. Nintendo proved wireless as viable 100% of the time with the Wavebird IMO.
 
[quote name='BIG5']I only wish you could turn the console on and off with the controller, so I could shut it off at night with out getting out of bed, for instance, but the problem with that is you might accidentally turn off the power while you were playing.[/QUOTE]

I wish for that too. I'm just one hell of a lazy ass. I wish for that on my computer and just have a remote to turn on my computer and then turn it off or to adjust volume etc.

Anyways I don't dislike wireless (only on computers), I find it more convient for me since I could just put it on my bed and off I'm playing it before I sleep. In games it works fine, maybe about a nanosecond off, but it's great.
 
[quote name='BIG5']I only wish you could turn the console on and off with the controller, so I could shut it off at night with out getting out of bed, for instance, but the problem with that is you might accidentally turn off the power while you were playing.[/QUOTE]

I think this feature should be standard on all systems wireless or not. It's not that hard to have a button that you have to hold down for a few seconds to turn the power off, and if it's located near the start button no one should have problems accidentaly pressing it.

Anyway, if done right like logitech, wireless is the best thing to happen to controllers.

BTW, what happened to all those people who said wireless controllers would never happen to consoles out of the box???
 
I like the wave bird, it's a near flawless controller. I've never experienced signal lag with it. But batteries wear out and fail altogether, you can forget to charge them and people make mistakes. I do NOT like being forced to go wireless as a standard. I like the security that comes with knowing my controller wont unexplicably 'not work' for some reason or that any mistake I make was mine and not caused by some errant signal that burst in through my window from a neighbor's house. I want that to fall back on.

The XB2 has a wire for recharging, thats fine, wow I could even turn it off if I had one? awesome, But as nice as it might be I dont want to put all my faith in it all the time every time. I dont see myself buying the XB2 but if for anyreason I ever did own it I probably would have that cord plugged in 24/7 except maybe for rare occasions. The PS3's controller is supposedly charged by putting it on top of the system? No I dont not like nor do I trust that. Does blue tooth some how beam energy through the air to my controller? I find that unlikly. I want a cord for this, I want to be certain it'sgetting power, I want a power meter so I know how much power it has left.

As a matter of fact I NEED controller ports on the PS3 because of it's Backwards compatability. Do they make wireless GunCons? Even if they do I'm not spending more money to buy them.

When I get the system the first thing I'll be looking to do is plug in my PS2 controller
 
I forgot about peripherals. I too NEED backwards compatability if I'm gonna be able to use my Cobalt Flux on any new DDR games. Stepmania only goes so far ya know
 
[quote name='Alpha2']I like the wave bird, it's a near flawless controller. I've never experienced signal lag with it. But batteries wear out and fail altogether, you can forget to charge them and people make mistakes. I do NOT like being forced to go wireless as a standard. I like the security that comes with knowing my controller wont unexplicably 'not work' for some reason or that any mistake I make was mine and not caused by some errant signal that burst in through my window from a neighbor's house. I want that to fall back on.

The XB2 has a wire for recharging, thats fine, wow I could even turn it off if I had one? awesome, But as nice as it might be I dont want to put all my faith in it all the time every time. I dont see myself buying the XB2 but if for anyreason I ever did own it I probably would have that cord plugged in 24/7 except maybe for rare occasions. The PS3's controller is supposedly charged by putting it on top of the system? No I dont not like nor do I trust that. Does blue tooth some how beam energy through the air to my controller? I find that unlikly. I want a cord for this, I want to be certain it'sgetting power, I want a power meter so I know how much power it has left.

As a matter of fact I NEED controller ports on the PS3 because of it's Backwards compatability. Do they make wireless GunCons? Even if they do I'm not spending more money to buy them.

When I get the system the first thing I'll be looking to do is plug in my PS2 controller[/QUOTE]

I agree that there should be a wired option to fall back on and there probably will be, but wireless controllers aren't as bad as you make them out to be. Like I said if done right, like Logitech's controllers, there should be no problems. The only thing we will have to worry about is changing/charging the batteries once in a while.

And I don't know the details, but if Sony thinks that we will believe that their controllers will charge by simply being near the ps3 they are insane.
 
There have been many horrible wireless controllers that have given them a bad rep. However the latest logitech ones I own are flawless. They work well for all games i've tried and the batteries last a good amount of time. That's why I don't mind them going wireless at all. And as somone else said yes you can also connect them through USB to charge so it's not that big a deal if you've got some kind of wire fetish. Me? i'm glad to get rid of those damn wires, esp when u got 3 systems with 4 controllers each. Those wires can get tangled ;)
 
Like I said while back, during a session of playing RE4 my wavebird batteries finally gave out on me in the middle of a boss battle without warning, That's when I knew it couldnt be a very good idea to go wireless only.

Anyone who's ever had the battery in their MP3 player or Cellphone checkout on them before they can charge it knows exactly how much of an inconveince it can be. People don't like having to remember to charge things.
 
I have the a logitech Xbox and PS2 controller. Both are great. I actually prefer the feel of the Logitech Xbox controller to that of Microsoft's 1st party wired controller (s-controller).
 
The only thing I request from the big 3 for their wireless controllers is for it to be as sturdy as their wired controllers, because the Logitech Action Controller is a flimsy piece of crap and about the same as the flimsy DBZ controllers I had gotten before. I'm all for wireless as I like the extra range since couch is about 6 foot too long from the TV to be able to relax and play on DC or PS2 with wired controllers.
 
[quote name='Alpha2']Like I said while back, during a session of playing RE4 my wavebird batteries finally gave out on me in the middle of a boss battle without warning, That's when I knew it couldnt be a very good idea to go wireless only.

Anyone who's ever had the battery in their MP3 player or Cellphone checkout on them before they can charge it knows exactly how much of an inconveince it can be. People don't like having to remember to charge things.[/QUOTE]
As long as there's an led or two to let me know the status of the battery (a la GBA SP) then it's fine with me. Cell phones have the battery status meter right on their, so it's the lazy user's fault for not charging it when they see it's low.
 
Some of those LEDs can be helpful and some cant. The light on the wavebird only helps if you look down occasionally to look at it. My play time on RE4 was about 1.5 hours looking directly at the screen and never the controller.

As for cell phones some phone batteries will go a week or so depending on how many called you take or make. Charging it on a sunday will have it down to one or two bars by saturday, and a good long call somewhere in between can leave you without a charge by saturday afternoon, simple as that. The more you charge a rechargeable battery the quicker they wear out and some people like to get as much out of it as they can by not recharging when the battery is only half empty. As I said people don't like having to remember to recharge things.
 
[quote name='Alpha2']Like I said while back, during a session of playing RE4 my wavebird batteries finally gave out on me in the middle of a boss battle without warning, That's when I knew it couldnt be a very good idea to go wireless only.

Anyone who's ever had the battery in their MP3 player or Cellphone checkout on them before they can charge it knows exactly how much of an inconveince it can be. People don't like having to remember to charge things.[/QUOTE]

The only thing I ask is a battery indicator ;). But I think that's still a pretty minor problem since the logitech batteries last 50 hours with rumble and 200 hours without.
 
[quote name='gizmogc']Rumble = Gimmick
Wavebird = Heaven[/QUOTE]

Hell if she ain't shakin it ... she's no fun :booty:

Wavebird = Half-assed
Logitech Precision = Heaven
 
LoL you can't classify Rumble as a gimmick and then claim Wireless isnt. Neither is necessary but each improves your experience in a different way. It sounds more like a fanboy's justification of the wavebird ;) The Logitech controllers work fine and have rumble.
 
[quote name='Alpha2']Like I said while back, during a session of playing RE4 my wavebird batteries finally gave out on me in the middle of a boss battle without warning, That's when I knew it couldnt be a very good idea to go wireless only.

Anyone who's ever had the battery in their MP3 player or Cellphone checkout on them before they can charge it knows exactly how much of an inconveince it can be. People don't like having to remember to charge things.[/QUOTE]

While everyone seems to think a battery indicator would be good, I can't help but wonder how hard it would be to simply have the system recognize that the controller died, like how some games instantly pause the game when a controller is disconected. If the system ever looses signal, either from battery loss or from straying too far from the system, it could auto-pause the game.
 
[quote name='Zmonkay']While everyone seems to think a battery indicator would be good, I can't help but wonder how hard it would be to simply have the system recognize that the controller died, like how some games instantly pause the game when a controller is disconected. If the system ever looses signal, either from battery loss or from straying too far from the system, it could auto-pause the game.[/QUOTE]

dunno most games i've played pause when the controller is unpluggd. Xbox atleast
 
[quote name='Zoglog']dunno most games i've played pause when the controller is unpluggd. Xbox atleast[/QUOTE]

yeah you're right but the current gen wireless controllers use dongles which the console sees as *still* plugged in even though the batteries in the controller are dead
 
[quote name='Alpha2']Some of those LEDs can be helpful and some cant. The light on the wavebird only helps if you look down occasionally to look at it. My play time on RE4 was about 1.5 hours looking directly at the screen and never the controller.

As for cell phones some phone batteries will go a week or so depending on how many called you take or make. Charging it on a sunday will have it down to one or two bars by saturday, and a good long call somewhere in between can leave you without a charge by saturday afternoon, simple as that. The more you charge a rechargeable battery the quicker they wear out and some people like to get as much out of it as they can by not recharging when the battery is only half empty. As I said people don't like having to remember to recharge things.[/QUOTE]

Wait, I thought you are supposed to charge them as often as possible, unless you aren't referring to Lithium ion and lithium ion polymer batteries.
 
[quote name='hollowfreak']yeah you're right but the current gen wireless controllers use dongles which the console sees as *still* plugged in even though the batteries in the controller are dead[/QUOTE]

that's a damn shame. Well since they're intergrated in the system now i'm sure they'll make sure to pause if the controller dies.... I hope lol. I don't see why they couldnt =) After all when the batteries go, so does the signal.
 
Rumble... never was very impressed, all the way back with Star Fox 64 and it's gigantic, battery powered "rumble pak."

Wireless good... so long as a charge lasts AT LEAST 8 hours. They get those things going 16 hours on a charge and they've got a HUGE selling point.
 
[quote name='Aleryn']Rumble... never was very impressed, all the way back with Star Fox 64 and it's gigantic, battery powered "rumble pak."

Wireless good... so long as a charge lasts AT LEAST 8 hours. They get those things going 16 hours on a charge and they've got a HUGE selling point.[/QUOTE]


you realize the new logitech ps2 controller runs for 300 hours without rumble and 50 with right?
 
[quote name='Quackzilla']Wait, I thought you are supposed to charge them as often as possible, unless you aren't referring to Lithium ion and lithium ion polymer batteries.[/QUOTE]

I'll be honest with you man, there are so many rules for some many variations of rechargeable batteries that I forget them all. To be safe every rechargable device I own I charge fully and run till the battery is empty. The only battery I did leave charged was my Laptop battery and at one point I when I actually needed it had become a dead and completely unuseable 60 dollar paper weight.
 
I don't think this has been mentioned yet, but would having wireless controllers as the norm mean that we would be shelling out $40-$50 for a replacement in the future?
 
[quote name='Zoglog']The only thing I ask is a battery indicator ;). But I think that's still a pretty minor problem since the logitech batteries last 50 hours with rumble and 200 hours without.[/QUOTE]
[quote name='Zoglog']you realize the new logitech ps2 controller runs for 300 hours without rumble and 50 with right?[/QUOTE]
Make up your mind. ;) And I've only heard 100 with and 50 without rumble for the battery lengths for the Logitech controller.

[quote name='hollowfreak']Hell if she ain't shakin it ... she's no fun

Wavebird = Half-assed
Logitech Precision = Heaven[/quote]

Switch those are you hit the nail on the head.
 
[quote name='crystalklear64']I don't really mind wireless, but I don't see the point in it either. Sure its great that you can travel X amount of miles away from your console and still have the controller work, but eye sight only works from so far away... Its not like you need all that extra room, at least not in most people's case, because you set up a couch or chair or whatever in front of your T.V. that is placed relatively close to you. I suppose tripping could be an issue, but how hard is it to watch your step? As for little kids... if they fall on their face/break a controller, let them deal with the consequences. It'll be a great learning experience on responsibility. Oh, and for those of you that need to jump around when you play (dodging things and whatnot) just don't... it looks silly ;)

Moral: Wireless=O.K. but unnecessary.
Kids=Meh around expensive stuff.
Rumble= Not a gimmick, a sweet addition to more fully immerse your self in the game (REZ!!!!)[/QUOTE]

Well, my couch is about 12 feet from my TV - and I'd like to see you tell my 40 lb 2 year-old (AKA "Dozer", or "The Beast") that he has to face the consequences :D. Actually, he is fairly careful around our extended PS2 cables but occasionally he has snagged a foot on one of them - he isn't about to fall down though - he just ends up yanking the controller out of my 5 year-old's hands.

SIDE STORY - The funny thing about him is that he likes to sit and watch me and my 5 year-old play games and insists on having a controller as well. I had bought some old clearance PS1 controller for him to hold while we play. But he knew something wasn't right when it had the cord on it (this was when we only had the Gamecube w/Wavebirds). So we cut the cord off. Now that we've gotten the PS2 we had to get him another cheap-ass controller WITH a cord for when we play that (thanks to the TRU green tag sale I got some lame-ass EA sports controller for less than $1). One of these days he's going to realize he isn't actually playing and get PO'd at me. My 5 year-old makes a big production out of "plugging" his brother's controller into the bottom of the couch or the chair across the room before we play :D. Tonight we had a great session of "fight guys" (Lego Star Wars) and I noticed the "little one" (he's actually bigger than the 5 year-old) pressing buttons furiously.
 
The funny thing is today I was playing with my PS2 logitech controller and my gf thought it woulfd be funny to ruin my game by sitting directly in front of me, blocking the controller's signal. Needless to say it didnt work too well. wireless controllers are great, and Im willing to recharge/replace batteries to use them. There will never be a controller that is cord only again, so get used to the idea.
 
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