Anyone here vegetarian?

I have been vegetarian for 17 years.
There are meat alternatives for everything. If you have a choice why not? I was a hamburger maniac and with all the choices even when I switched it was simple.
 
[quote name='icruise']
Funny you should mention that. The fact is that cattle farming is a very inefficient way of using land resources. You can feed a lot more people with the grains or vegetables grown on an acre of land than with the beef grown on that same acre. There are many who claim that vegetarianism (or at least a diet with much less meat in it) is the best one for the planet's future.[/quote]

Only problem is this argument ignores the fact that land that can support cattle in general is not as useful at all for growing grains or veggies. Go to western South or North Dakota and you can see how apparent this is. (there is a reason Bison provided more food than corn in these areas for the earlier inhabitents) Now if you want to start feeding people wild grass, maybe you are on to something.
 
I am not a vegetarian, but my cousin is. I think she went to far. Carrot sticks and celery was all I have ever seen her eat. She drinks plain black coffee and water. She almost died this year.
 
I've been a vegetarian for about 14 years. I do eat dairy products but not meat. Healthwise, I have the lowest cholesterol of anyone I know. It's around 108... that's the total level... not the level for either the good or the bad. I rarely get sick, and when I do it doesn't last long. And I'm not a drama queen. lol

I've taken 2 antioxidant level tests about 2 years apart, and the results for both showed my antioxidant level to be in the highest range possible. In other words, I have a lot of antioxidants that fight those free radical things. I eat a lot of soy protein, fruits, and veggies.

I do it for moral and health reasons and I have absolutely no regrets. Just because people don't believe in vegetarianism doesn't mean they have to knock it. I respect people's right to eat meat as well as their meat-eating beliefs, just as they should respect the rights and beliefs of vegetarians. Can't we all just get along?
 
[quote name='Tricky']I am not a vegetarian, but my cousin is. I think she went to far. Carrot sticks and celery was all I have ever seen her eat. She drinks plain black coffee and water. She almost died this year.[/quote]

That sounds like anorexia, not vegetarianism.
 
[quote name='Moxio']I'm not a hardcore vegetarian, as I am Indian, but I might eat something with chicken powder, etc. in it. If I'm really hungry, I might eat a corndog or something. Most of the time I don't eat meat, though.[/quote]

Wow Moxio, you are Indian? I didn't know. I now know of 3 other Indians on these boards besides myself.
 
[quote name='ananag112'][quote name='Moxio']I'm not a hardcore vegetarian, as I am Indian, but I might eat something with chicken powder, etc. in it. If I'm really hungry, I might eat a corndog or something. Most of the time I don't eat meat, though.[/quote]

Wow Moxio, you are Indian? I didn't know. I now know of 3 other Indians on these boards besides myself.[/quote]

Yup. I'm north Indian, so I have fairly ligh-tan skin. I'm also Hindu.
 
hey everyone! stop arguing! there are no definite answers, there never will be.

respect each others lifestyles and move on

thank you
 
[quote name='punqsux']hey everyone! stop arguing! there are no definite answers, there never will be.

respect each others lifestyles and move on

thank you[/quote]

We're not arguing.... we're conversing about our different perspectives on dietary issues.
 
I've been vegan for nearly 4 years. I am hardly the stereotypical vegan though. I'm 6'2" 240 lbs, and alot stronger and healthier than I was as a 320 lb omnivore. I have learned how to get a meal almost anywhere so going out with friends or family is never that much of a hassle. Well I suppose fast food resturants are out, but then again they all suck to begin with. Any decent sit-down resturant is usually more than happy to fix me up a special vegan dish(or more likely just there vegetarian option minus the cheese), it might help that I tip rather big if they do have to go out of their way. I did eat alot of fake meat products during my first few months, but eventually I taught myself how to be a really good cook. It's not the meat that tastes good anyway(how many of you eat meat that hasn't been marinated, seasoned, tenderized, breaded or had something else done to it, a bare steak without any seasonings or sauces is pretty damn bland).

Also I don't preach about being vegan, it seems like the most militant vegans tend to crash and burn before the first 6 months and then hop onto the next fringe craze. Although there seems to be a bad trend of pseudo-vegetarians who make life more of a hassle for real vegetarians. So people who call themselves vegetarian but eat fish or even chicken mcnuggets tick me off because then I get questions like "So-and-So is vegetarian and they eat X meat product" presuming that I should too.

Also the "unnatural" questions are annoying. I know my diet isn't natural. A natural diet would hardly be centered around meat either. If you look at what the "natural" diet of humans was prior to the last couple centuries it was 95% vegetarian. Outside of the very rich folks, most people would be lucky to get meat more than once a week. When a hunt was sucessfull(hardly a certainity without modern firearms) or your neighbor decided to slaughter his cow you got to feast, otherwise it was all fruits, veggies, & grains.
 
Couple points:

I'm not a vegetarian but I find myself eating more and more vegetables. Lots of Salads and stuff.

I dont mind dating vegetarians but I can not date vegans. They are too much to handle.

Cornfed made a point that vegetarians are not healthly. I worked with a few vegetarians and for some reason, they always seem sickly too me. I never call in sick but these women are always sick. I'm not sure if its due their diet or if its something else but it seems to lend credence to what Cornfed said.
 
[quote name='Kayden']I dont think the health has anything to do with simply being a vegetarian... Its probably got more to do with the fact that they conciously monitor what they eat... "regular" people just say 'oh.... that fits in my mouth' and have a stroke. But You can be just as healthy eating meat as you can not... you just have to conciously mind what you ingest[/quote]

Great point. I ahev veggie friends who are totally fat and unhealthy because they eat so many desserts and cheese and such. I eat tons of meat and I am much more healthy than they are.
 
[quote name='imacheapasstoo'][quote name='Tricky']I am not a vegetarian, but my cousin is. I think she went to far. Carrot sticks and celery was all I have ever seen her eat. She drinks plain black coffee and water. She almost died this year.[/quote]

That sounds like anorexia, not vegetarianism.[/quote]

She claims that she is a vegetarian and says that she does not care for meat. I have always considered her as having anorexia.
 
[quote name='nilpunk']how many of you eat meat that hasn't been marinated, seasoned, tenderized, breaded or had something else done to it, a bare steak without any seasonings or sauces is pretty damn bland[/quote]

HERESY! The only seasoning it needs is its own succulent blood... mmmm I've eaten steaks 50% rare with no seasoning... mmmm Damn... I'm drooling. mmmmm meeeaaaaatt.... =)
 
[quote name='Kayden'][quote name='nilpunk']how many of you eat meat that hasn't been marinated, seasoned, tenderized, breaded or had something else done to it, a bare steak without any seasonings or sauces is pretty damn bland[/quote]

HERESY! The only seasoning it needs is its own succulent blood... mmmm I've eaten steaks 50% rare with no seasoning... mmmm Damn... I'm drooling. mmmmm meeeaaaaatt.... =)[/quote]

Yeah. You're eating the wrong steak if it's bland to the point where you'd bread it. Ugh.

PS: eating a sweet sweet ground round sammich right now.
 
I turned 33 today. I have been a vegetarian since I was 17, and vegan since I was 24 (I think that's about right, I've never been good with dates and times). Before becoming vegetarian, I loved all sorts of meat. Yes, there are some foods I still miss every once in a while. I am vegan for ethical reasons, not health reasons. I should pay more attention to what I should eat, but I get a pretty good variety.

Eating out with friends can be difficult sometimes, especially with picky friends. Many people consider vegetarians to be picky by their very nature, but I am not very picky at all, although I generally will not eat in a restaurant in which all I can get is a dry salad. I have nothing against salad, but there was a time when I had to eat out with coworkers often, and they liked to go to places like O'Charley's. Salad gets pretty old, pretty fast, and it is really annoying to have someone tell you, "oh, this place has a great salad" -- Ok, now take off the cheese, turkey, ham, egg, croutons, and dressing -- not such a great salad. I am fine with a well stocked salad bar with plenty of fresh vegetables, but if you look at most restaurants' salad bars, they are at least 70% animal based.

Gelatin is one of the nastiest conceptions ever. The fact that it is used in so many things amazes me. The fact that a huge portion of the adult population has no clue what it is or where it comes from disgusts me. That is one of the best benefits of a vegan diet -- it forces one to really examine what it is one is eating. I spend more time in the grocery store, because I read the ingredients for everything I buy, even things that I have bought before (sometimes recipes change, and something I could eat becomes something I can't). One of the most painful things I sometimes have to do is turn down food that is offered to me by a well meaning friend. Sometimes it is even food that they prepared especially for me, but with an ingredient that they either did not see, or did not realize what it was.

I have never attacked anyone for eating meat, but I often find myself attacked by carnivores (omnivores, really), for being vegetarian. I have been lied to, ignored, and occassionally mocked by waiters and waitresses (not always, but too often). Sometimes it is because of a lack of understanding or knowledge, sometimes it is malicious. Vegetarians are rarely portrayed well by the media, which I believe contributes to these attitudes.

[quote name='Xevious']Cornfed made a point that vegetarians are not healthly. I worked with a few vegetarians and for some reason, they always seem sickly too me. I never call in sick but these women are always sick. I'm not sure if its due their diet or if its something else but it seems to lend credence to what Cornfed said.[/quote]

As I stated, I am vegan for ethical, not health reasons, however, I would like to address this point. Many people do become vegetarian for health reasons, and many of these people do so because they are unhealthy to begin with. I don't know the women of which you write, but could they fall into this category? Almost everyone I know who takes medication is sick, but I do not believe it is the medication that caused their illness. Could the sickliness be the cause of their vegetarianism, and not the other way around?
 
[quote name='nilpunk']I've been vegan for nearly 4 years. I am hardly the stereotypical vegan though. I'm 6'2" 240 lbs, and alot stronger and healthier than I was as a 320 lb omnivore. I have learned how to get a meal almost anywhere so going out with friends or family is never that much of a hassle. Well I suppose fast food resturants are out, but then again they all suck to begin with. Any decent sit-down resturant is usually more than happy to fix me up a special vegan dish(or more likely just there vegetarian option minus the cheese), it might help that I tip rather big if they do have to go out of their way. I did eat alot of fake meat products during my first few months, but eventually I taught myself how to be a really good cook. It's not the meat that tastes good anyway(how many of you eat meat that hasn't been marinated, seasoned, tenderized, breaded or had something else done to it, a bare steak without any seasonings or sauces is pretty damn bland).

Also I don't preach about being vegan, it seems like the most militant vegans tend to crash and burn before the first 6 months and then hop onto the next fringe craze. Although there seems to be a bad trend of pseudo-vegetarians who make life more of a hassle for real vegetarians. So people who call themselves vegetarian but eat fish or even chicken mcnuggets tick me off because then I get questions like "So-and-So is vegetarian and they eat X meat product" presuming that I should too.

Also the "unnatural" questions are annoying. I know my diet isn't natural. A natural diet would hardly be centered around meat either. If you look at what the "natural" diet of humans was prior to the last couple centuries it was 95% vegetarian. Outside of the very rich folks, most people would be lucky to get meat more than once a week. When a hunt was sucessfull(hardly a certainity without modern firearms) or your neighbor decided to slaughter his cow you got to feast, otherwise it was all fruits, veggies, & grains.[/quote]

You raise a great deal of very good points. It's probably one of the healthiest veiwpoints I've seen.
With the exception of your last paragraph, I see little to disagree with.

Considering the enviroment where I live, most people would have a much higher than 5% diet of meats. With ample lakes, and fish, waterfoul, and other wildlife available, even after the encroachment of civilization, I would highly doubt that people living in the Great Lakes region would be that dependant only on just fruits and vegetables. Even with just simple nets and efficent arrowheads, there would be enough animals to hunt that the percentage would necessarily have to be shifted..
not to mention that without modern cultivation methods, the somewhat unpredictable weather would make raising crops much more difficult that just foraging and hunting.
 
I'm 35 and I've been vegan for about 15 years. I don't expect other people to go veg, and I don't stand on a soapbox pestering people about it. For me, it's all about that fact that I feel awful seeing how modern farm animals usually get treated. If someone else doesn't feel bad about it when they see it, I know they're not going to want to change their diets. I just think that people should learn about something before they totally dismiss it.

I've had a few friends and acquaintances change their eating habits after being around me enough and realizing they could ask me questions without me preaching. As soon as you start waving your finger at someone, they get defensive and won't listen to anything you have to say -- that's the thing that so many loudmouth vegetarians don't get. Other people I've talked to haven't really changed their diets, but at least they learned that vegetarians have a point worth making, even if so many of them are obnoxious in the way they make it.

If anyone is interested at all in seeing some really clear, non-preachy stuff about going veg, check out www.veganoutreach.org
 
A couple people touched on it earlier in the thread, but I'd like to emphasize the energy drain caused by cattle. Every kilogram of animal protein requires 100 times more water (only 1.3 percent of which is used directly by the cow) than a kg of grain protein. It also requires 11 times as much fossil energy. Roughly 60 percent of U.S. land is being overgrazed, causing accelerated erosion. (For the four-page study, go to https://chalk.uchicago.edu/webapps/...s&url=/bin/common/course.pl?course_id=_2159_1 and search for "pimentel")

Now this may not be a huge problem today (although we do have lots of people starving all over the world), but with the U.S. population expected to double in the next 70 years, it will be one. Down the road consuming much less animal protein is just going to be a reality barring some very radical, unpredictable change.

On a side note, if any of you are interested, please go to this web site each day and click "give free food." Each banner ad you click on daily donates 1.1 cups of rice to the hungry overseas. The minute it takes each day is worth it: http://www.thehungersite.com/cgi-bi...ustomContentActiveImageDisplayComponent.0.0.0

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[quote name='nilpunk']
Also the "unnatural" questions are annoying. I know my diet isn't natural. A natural diet would hardly be centered around meat either. If you look at what the "natural" diet of humans was prior to the last couple centuries it was 95% vegetarian. Outside of the very rich folks, most people would be lucky to get meat more than once a week. When a hunt was sucessfull(hardly a certainity without modern firearms) or your neighbor decided to slaughter his cow you got to feast, otherwise it was all fruits, veggies, & grains.[/quote]

Excellent point. I eat way less meat then the average american. It's actually way cheaper too (yah more money for videogames :twisted: )

However I buy organic meat, that kinda cuts the cheapy-ness out of my diet (but I won't have hormonally-induced man-boobs when I'm older, so it's worth it)
 
As long as your food is balanced and you have proper exercise, either diet should be fine.

For me, I have grown up eating all sorts of meat, and i try to balance my meals.

I don't know why people attack vegitarians ? Eh, it doesn't bother anybody, so who cares ?
 
[quote name='rajchakrabarti']As long as your food is balanced and you have proper exercise, either diet should be fine.

For me, I have grown up eating all sorts of meat, and i try to balance my meals.

I don't know why people attack vegitarians ? Eh, it doesn't bother anybody, so who cares ?[/quote]


What does rajchakrabarti mean?

I think
raj = king
chakra = psychic center
barti = ??? not sure what it means
 
wont we die sooner or later anyway ? I understand that meat is "gross" and it can be very unhealthy . but sooner or later we will die no matter what life stile we choose to have . thats for both sides herbivours and carnivours ,Just a thought on the matter .
 
[quote name='Xevious']Couple points:

I'm not a vegetarian but I find myself eating more and more vegetables. Lots of Salads and stuff.

I dont mind dating vegetarians but I can not date vegans. They are too much to handle.

Cornfed made a point that vegetarians are not healthly. I worked with a few vegetarians and for some reason, they always seem sickly too me. I never call in sick but these women are always sick. I'm not sure if its due their diet or if its something else but it seems to lend credence to what Cornfed said.[/quote]

I suppose one could stereotype that most vegetarians are unhealthy, but I myself am in great shape.
 
[quote name='rajchakrabarti']As long as your food is balanced and you have proper exercise, either diet should be fine.

For me, I have grown up eating all sorts of meat, and i try to balance my meals.

I don't know why people attack vegitarians ? Eh, it doesn't bother anybody, so who cares ?[/quote]

One of the best things I've read in this thread.


jam3582, of course we're all going to die. I don't doubt that anyone here doesn't know that. But if someone asked you to eat pig's rectum, would you eat it because eventually you're going to die anyway? I highly doubt it, and that's what it's about for me and many veggie's out there. We're just grossed out with meat (texture, taste, whatever). Plain and simple, I don't wanna eat what grosses me out.
 
[quote name='"valleyvampiress"']We're just grossed out with meat (texture, taste, whatever). Plain and simple, I don't wanna eat what grosses me out.[/quote]

I am not a vegetarian, but I understand your argument. I won't touch sushi or rare meat since the thought grosses me out as well.
 
It's interesting to note, to those who said a straight carnivore diet won't work, that Eskimos have been working it for quite a while now.
 
funny you mention that.... I read an article about that in Discover.

Nothing but seal fat and whale meat for hundreds of years and they have lower chances of heart disease and over all better health...

Then if I recollect correctly they also eat the contents of the stomach... In a lot of whales that tends to be fish or kelp.
 
I eat meat and I have no beef with vegetarians (no pun intended). I however do take issue with the self-rightousness of those who try to forcefeed (pun intended) their dietary preferences on others. One example that pissed me off was that in college, the campus vegan activist group successfully lobbied the university to stop serving veal, which happened to be one of the few items they served which I actually liked. I have no problem with people eating whatever they want but when they affect my diet, then I have a problem with it.

Anyway, you can't ignore the fact that the human body is designed to metabolize meat and draws a large proportion of essential nutrients such as iron and folate and B12 from animal products. As a neurology resident, I have seen a couple cases of B12 deficiency due to a long-term vegetarian diet leading to a severe myelopathy (basically nerve pathways in the spinal cord being damaged leading to loss of sensation and weakness in the extremities). Any extreme diet is unhealthy and I would still advocate that a balanced diet is the way to go.
 
[quote name='Cornfedwb'][quote name='icruise']I've been a vegetarian for about 18 years (since I was 12). I've never really been tempted to eat meat, and now they have so many vegetarian meat and chicken substitutes that it's easier than ever.

Although I am a vegetarian for ethical reasons, studies do show that vegetarians are healthier than people who eat meat. It's a lot harder to eat as bad as most Americans do if you're a vegetarian, because so much fast food isn't available to you.[/quote]

Which studies are you making up? Every report I've seen has shown vegetarians having much poorer health and usually debilitated immune systems.[/quote]

Could you link me some of those studies? I hate getting in vegan arguements....and not knowing any actual facts.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I'm blown away by the fact that not every reply is some sort of defense-mechanism riddled "who in the hell wants to eat carrots all day long?" diatribe. Excellent.

It's difficult to balance your vitamin intake on a vegetartian diet, but I also think it's a moot point, since I doubt many people who eat meat pay attention to what it is they are eating. For those who don't pay attention to their own diet to point out that other persons' dietary decisions may not be perfectly nutritious is an absurd and avoidant argument.

I'm considering going back to vegetarianism for ethical reasons. Although I don't eat there, it struck a nerve today when McDonald's put out a press release stating that they are considering changing the method of slaughtering chickens. The press release says that they will gas the chickens to death instead of the current method, which involves hanging the chickens up by their feet and dragging them through electrified water. Yow.

I'm curious to see if those of you who are vegetaran and have children; what sort of diet do you feed them? If you place them on a vegetarian diet, how do you pay attention to their intake? For a person to neglect their own nutrition is fine (we're all certainly guilty of that), but to do the same to children is awful. How do you rectify that?

myke.[/quote]

It's actually kinda funny about the gas....you see, gassed to death isnt pleasant like on TV. It horrific.....once all the blood capsules in your eye burst and you adominal muscles snap from all the horrible wretching....you still lose control of all your bowels and usually you throw up you guts....

Electricfied water on the other hand is painless and a instantanous death....McDonalds must think Vegans are idiots, cause it just went from bad to worse.....

As far as vegitarianism goes....it goes like this.... we are no different from the other animals....the man difference is that we have a creative mind that the other animals lack. But were still mammals.....we HAVE canines. And our digestive track, digists meat rather well.....better than alot of complex carb veggies.....(potatoes....)

Whats usually the most simple and basic course of action is probably the best. Eating all vegitables is about as healthy as eating all meat. It all depends on WHAT you eat....and why.
 
I'm not vegetarion, but I probably will be soon. I still eat salmon, halibut, sole, and shrimp, but I get the feeling that is temporary. I just find meet disgusting and feel guilty eating it. Though it isn't very hard for me, the staple of my diet has always been pasta, and most of the meat that I ate was in other food, and not just a piece of meat itself. I'm not thin either, I'm still trying to drop a few pounds, though I think I've gained a few lately. Though I don't really like cake, deserts, greasy things etc. otherwise (looking at the rest of my family) I'd be a blimp.
 
No I'm not a Vegan/vegetarian but plenty of my friends are. I just doen't see the point of it. I can understand not being cruel to animals but really it's for our livelyhood and that is how we were designed. Either if you live by evolutionism: the theory that we purposely evolved this way so to eat meat and vegetables, or by Creationism (most religions): that some higher being created us and the animals so we could both coincide, their is just nothing that says that we shouldn't be eating meat. Simply put, I just don't see the point of it really. In most religions, there is nothing wrong with eating meat and even are supposed to be eaten on certain holidays.


Vegans/vegetarians might live better but only because they are far more picky and particular of what they eat. Now a days most people will just eat whatever and not look at how healthy it is for you. You can still be healthy by eating meat.

As epobirs put it, [quote name='epobirs']As for the ethical issue, quite simply, if they weren't intended to be eaten they shouldn't be made of substances my species is evolved to consume. Parts of my dentition and enzymes produced by my digestive tract serve no other purpose. If that isn't a directive from on high, I cannot imagine what is. [/quote]. This is exactly how I feel on the matter. Is it alright for other animals/mammals to hunt and eat meat? The wolf or lion or any other carnivorous creature is allowed to eat meat but we aren't, give me a break. I will agree with the vegans/vegetarians out there that don't agree with how they kill/slaughter the animals, because I myself don't agree but as we see we have a problem, why doesn't someone try to address it and find a better way to kill them. Really there isn't. If I could than I would have any animal die or anything die but that just isn't reality. It is the food chain and at the present state, we are at the top. In recent time we have started to over graze and over hunt but for most of the time, we have kept the animal population at healthy levels. If we didn't hunt than there would be too many animals. That is what the food chain all about. Big fish eat little and fish and the most fit animals survive. Why don't we go tell some sharks or lions to stop hunting meat/other animals and tell them to turn to kelp or grasses?

Truly either diet can be healthy if done in moderation and correctly without overindulgence. Any extreme diet is unhealthy and I would still advocate that a balanced diet is the way to go.

I hope I don't sound like I'm knocking down or ragging on being a vegetarian or vegetarianism.
 
I was a vegetarian for 4 years, had to give it up after living on the dorms for a year, with a cafeteria that serves nothing but meat. Their alternative was a Peanut Butter and Jelly sandwich (with animal byproducts). I still ate milk, eggs, cheese, stuff like that. I really missed chicken and turkey, but I didn't miss beef or pork at all, and I was never big on seafood. I really, really hate salad though, always have, I'd rather go hungry than eat one. Might go back to not eating meat, now that I have a choice again, but I might not.

A vegetarian diet is not necessarily healthier, but it makes your diet more likely to be healthy, since you're paying attention to what you eat.

I wasn't one of those people that would discourage others from eating meat, and I wasn't put off by other people eating meat near me. You could eat steaks and burgers and stuff next to me and it wasn't a big deal.
 
I'm not a vegetarian, nor will I ever be. Like most people here, the only vegetarians I don't like are the preachy ones, like PETA. In fact, I don't dislike the individual people, just the stupid organization that has blinded them to the real world outside their little dreamland.

Anyway, I eat meat because it's what I enjoy. If I die a few years sooner, well, who want's to be old anyway? :) Seriously though, I just can't stand the taste and texture of most vegetables, especially lettuce and celery. I haven't eaten a salad in 20 years, or so. So, more power to ya if you enjoy the vegetables! I'll be over here with my bacon double cheeseburger, dripping with BBQ sauce.
 
As maddox would say, since you are a vegetarian, I will take it upon myself to eat twice the amount of meat to make up for you.
 
[quote name='bignick']As maddox would say, since you are a vegetarian, I will take it upon myself to eat twice the amount of meat to make up for you.[/quote]

it sounds witty and clever, but its really very impractical.

even if he was serious, it would be hard to eat twice the amount of meat someone usually eats, because sometimes meals consist of primarily meat, sure someone can eat 6 tacos, but is 12 so easy?

plus the fact that he can only say that to one person, i mean if he were to attempt it with 2 people thats 3x the meat! 18 tacos!

the ONLY person i can think of that can make such a claim would be dlf.
 
[quote name='punqsux'][quote name='bignick']As maddox would say, since you are a vegetarian, I will take it upon myself to eat twice the amount of meat to make up for you.[/quote]

it sounds witty and clever, but its really very impractical.

even if he was serious, it would be hard to eat twice the amount of meat someone usually eats, because sometimes meals consist of primarily meat, sure someone can eat 6 tacos, but is 12 so easy?

plus the fact that he can only say that to one person, i mean if he were to attempt it with 2 people thats 3x the meat! 18 tacos!

the ONLY person i can think of that can make such a claim would be dlf.[/quote]

I could do 12 tacos from taco bell. Sometimes I get the grande combo.
 
[quote name='Cornfedwb']I don't trust vegetarians. And I truly believe every one of them is a melodramatic attention whore.

So no, I'm not.[/quote]

I don't trust trolls for the same reasons.
 
[quote name='bignick']As maddox would say, since you are a vegetarian, I will take it upon myself to eat twice the amount of meat to make up for you.[/quote]

No, it's 3 times as much, so you not only countact the vegetarian, you actually make it worse. And you don't have to eat a lot. A chicken nugget/meatball/breakfast pork sausage kills just as many animals as a whole chicken/beef roast/rack of ribs.
 
[quote name='Kayden']funny you mention that.... I read an article about that in Discover.

Nothing but seal fat and whale meat for hundreds of years and they have lower chances of heart disease and over all better health...

Then if I recollect correctly they also eat the contents of the stomach... In a lot of whales that tends to be fish or kelp.[/quote]

Fish fat is the "good" fat that promotes cardicascular health. The fat in red meat is what'll give you heart disease. Most of the civilizations that have low instances of heart disease/obesity/etc. have a fish component to their diet.
 
[quote name='Sheik Rattle Enroll'][quote name='Cornfedwb']I don't trust vegetarians. And I truly believe every one of them is a melodramatic attention whore.

So no, I'm not.[/quote]

I don't trust trolls for the same reasons.[/quote]

:applause: :rofl:
 
[quote name='Sheik Rattle Enroll'][quote name='Cornfedwb']I don't trust vegetarians. And I truly believe every one of them is a melodramatic attention whore.

So no, I'm not.[/quote]

I don't trust trolls for the same reasons.[/quote]

I don't see how he was acting as troll Sheik Rattle Enroll. Maybe you can enlighten me on how he was.
 
[quote name='hiccupleftovers'][quote name='Sheik Rattle Enroll'][quote name='Cornfedwb']I don't trust vegetarians. And I truly believe every one of them is a melodramatic attention whore.

So no, I'm not.[/quote]

I don't trust trolls for the same reasons.[/quote]

I don't see how he was acting as troll Sheik Rattle Enroll. Maybe you can enlighten me on how he was.[/quote]
He did call vegetarians attention whores, which in itself, is an attention drawing statement. Pot to Kettle: You're black!

When I was doing it, I didn't tell anyone unless they needed to know, if they were offering me food or whatever. Not that I was ashamed of it, it just didn't occur to me to announce it to the world. Now, some people do that, and they're guilty of seeking attention. A lot of people will try and do something "different" for the attention.
 
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