Anyone see Eminem's new video?
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[quote name='Azul_KoolAid'][quote name='sblymnlcrymnl'][quote name='Azul_KoolAid'][quote name='punqsux']almost all rap that gets radio play sucks.
rap i like is jurassic 5, tribe, nwa, run dmc, stuff along those lines
tupac sucks.. b.i.g. sucks if they hadnt gotten shot i doubt anyone would care about them[/quote]
Man, You may not like Biggie or Pac but they did have skills and they were the top rappers in the mid 90's. You have no idea what you're talking about (IMO) but I'm gonna respect your opinion.
It's true alot of the new pop rap is bad all you gotta do is to your ear to the ground and check out mixtapes and such. Big name rappers still make them the whole Jay-Z/Nas battle started out on mixtapes.[/quote]
Pac was alright, but BIG sucked hard. Also, Nas is 10x the lyricist Jay ever hoped to be.[/quote]
That's your opinion. Pac got the world's attention but he contradicted himself all the damn time but that's why some people love him. Biggie told stories through his raps a first back then but damn was that mofo ugly I don't know how he got Faith. They both have they're +'s and -'s I prefer Pac but I respect Biggie also.[/quote]
That is very true. IMO both Nas and Jay-Z are awesome unbeliveable rappers but difference between them is that Jay-Z is a great party rapper that knows how to incorporate into his rhymes truth and reality into. You really fell his emotions. Nas is very much the lyricist that Jay-Z is but I just don't think he could do a party song that included depth in it. It's really hard to say the point I'm trying get across but hopefully you see. I like them both but I prefer Jay-Z over Nas.
I'm not sure why I'm even making a list because I like all of them so I guess it would be something along the lines of Em>Pac>Jay-Z>Nas>Biggie but bear in mind that those are quite interchangeable.
rap i like is jurassic 5, tribe, nwa, run dmc, stuff along those lines
tupac sucks.. b.i.g. sucks if they hadnt gotten shot i doubt anyone would care about them[/quote]
Man, You may not like Biggie or Pac but they did have skills and they were the top rappers in the mid 90's. You have no idea what you're talking about (IMO) but I'm gonna respect your opinion.
It's true alot of the new pop rap is bad all you gotta do is to your ear to the ground and check out mixtapes and such. Big name rappers still make them the whole Jay-Z/Nas battle started out on mixtapes.[/quote]
Pac was alright, but BIG sucked hard. Also, Nas is 10x the lyricist Jay ever hoped to be.[/quote]
That's your opinion. Pac got the world's attention but he contradicted himself all the damn time but that's why some people love him. Biggie told stories through his raps a first back then but damn was that mofo ugly I don't know how he got Faith. They both have they're +'s and -'s I prefer Pac but I respect Biggie also.[/quote]
That is very true. IMO both Nas and Jay-Z are awesome unbeliveable rappers but difference between them is that Jay-Z is a great party rapper that knows how to incorporate into his rhymes truth and reality into. You really fell his emotions. Nas is very much the lyricist that Jay-Z is but I just don't think he could do a party song that included depth in it. It's really hard to say the point I'm trying get across but hopefully you see. I like them both but I prefer Jay-Z over Nas.
I'm not sure why I'm even making a list because I like all of them so I guess it would be something along the lines of Em>Pac>Jay-Z>Nas>Biggie but bear in mind that those are quite interchangeable.
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I've never been a fan of Eminem, But he has gain alot of respect from me for this music video.
I'm sending these links to everyone I know.
I'm sending these links to everyone I know.
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[quote name='zewone']I don't want to quote the whole quote, but I'll say I never really got into Pac's music. I can see how people have him as there favortie rapper just not mine. Biggies lyrics are just too great to say he sucked hard. And Nas too is a great lyricist but he doesn't have a huge range. Great songs, but like hiccup said he can't do any kind of party song. And Jay-Z is really the greatest rapper alive. He has range, depth, lyrics, beats, and respect. He knows how to make a hot song, if its a slow deep song or a club banger its gonna be great. The only thing is he needs to stay away from teh R&B, like the Best of Both Worlds which was just mediocre.[/quote]
Exactly. thank you for putting into words what I was thinking. I thought the Best of Both Worlds was little better than mediocre, I'd put it at slightly above average. There was a few good songs on there.
Exactly. thank you for putting into words what I was thinking. I thought the Best of Both Worlds was little better than mediocre, I'd put it at slightly above average. There was a few good songs on there.
[quote name='zewone']I don't want to quote the whole quote, but I'll say I never really got into Pac's music. I can see how people have him as there favortie rapper just not mine. Biggies lyrics are just too great to say he sucked hard. And Nas too is a great lyricist but he doesn't have a huge range. Great songs, but like hiccup said he can't do any kind of party song. And Jay-Z is really the greatest rapper alive. He has range, depth, lyrics, beats, and respect. He knows how to make a hot song, if its a slow deep song or a club banger its gonna be great. The only thing is he needs to stay away from teh R&B, like the Best of Both Worlds which was just mediocre.[/quote]
Sigh, All Jay-Z songs after resonable doubt are about " I sold coke, but I don't any more" "I got a lot of shit, everybody look at my shit" " I'm
ing Beyonce. I'm so much uglier than you, but I'm in' beyonce".
I'm going to contiune to sleep on Jay-Z, especially after Talib Kweli flipped on him, "If lyrics sold, then truth be told/I'd probably be as rich and famous as Jay-Z/Truthfully, I wanna rhyme like Common Sense/Next best thing, do a record with Common Sense"."
I believe this list is,
Nas > Biggie > Em > Tupac > Ghostface > Talib Kweli > Mos Def > Pun > Common > Black Thought > Jay-Z > > > Hova.
I love Jay-Z though for lighting the fire under NAS's ass. That brought back Queensbridge in the rap game.
Oh and MOSH is the hottest song/album this year. It needs to win major awards next year.
Sigh, All Jay-Z songs after resonable doubt are about " I sold coke, but I don't any more" "I got a lot of shit, everybody look at my shit" " I'm
ing Beyonce. I'm so much uglier than you, but I'm in' beyonce".I'm going to contiune to sleep on Jay-Z, especially after Talib Kweli flipped on him, "If lyrics sold, then truth be told/I'd probably be as rich and famous as Jay-Z/Truthfully, I wanna rhyme like Common Sense/Next best thing, do a record with Common Sense"."
I believe this list is,
Nas > Biggie > Em > Tupac > Ghostface > Talib Kweli > Mos Def > Pun > Common > Black Thought > Jay-Z > > > Hova.
I love Jay-Z though for lighting the fire under NAS's ass. That brought back Queensbridge in the rap game.
Oh and MOSH is the hottest song/album this year. It needs to win major awards next year.
[quote name='zewone']I don't think Talib used the line as harsh way to get at Jay-Z. All he did was flip the lyrics from the Black Album where Jay was saying pretty much that Kweli was the best lyricist right now. So I don't think he was mad at Jay. And did you not like Hov after The Takeover and Super Ugly? It seems that Nas is your favorite rapper and that may have knocked him down on why you don't like him. I would do a whole list of rappers I like like you but I hate placing them in order unless its the five everybody talks about like I already did.[/quote]
I don't think Talib was per se knocking him down, but for me it pointed out the holes in Jay-Z's persona. If Jay-Z wanted to be taken as a lyric rapper and acknowledge these other artist on the fringe, why did he not do the sensible thing and do a track with Common Sense?
I avoid the whole rapper beef thing personally. I respect Jay for alot of work he's done, but I don't like how his subject matter has stayed to several basic topics in the last few years. It's not as bad as Nas's FIRM period, but I always feel that Jay-Z handcuffed himself by releasing work that was more about selling better than rhyming. He's whole reason for leaving the rap game is that he makes more as the CEO of his company than rapping.
Jay-Z is still all about his cash and that right there drops him from as an amazing MC in my eyes. He's not there to rock the mike. Biggie had that level of materialism but was better on the mike overall than JayZ.
I also did the whole long rapper quote thing to kind of point at some underated MCs particarly Ghostface and Big Pun.
I don't think Talib was per se knocking him down, but for me it pointed out the holes in Jay-Z's persona. If Jay-Z wanted to be taken as a lyric rapper and acknowledge these other artist on the fringe, why did he not do the sensible thing and do a track with Common Sense?
I avoid the whole rapper beef thing personally. I respect Jay for alot of work he's done, but I don't like how his subject matter has stayed to several basic topics in the last few years. It's not as bad as Nas's FIRM period, but I always feel that Jay-Z handcuffed himself by releasing work that was more about selling better than rhyming. He's whole reason for leaving the rap game is that he makes more as the CEO of his company than rapping.
Jay-Z is still all about his cash and that right there drops him from as an amazing MC in my eyes. He's not there to rock the mike. Biggie had that level of materialism but was better on the mike overall than JayZ.
I also did the whole long rapper quote thing to kind of point at some underated MCs particarly Ghostface and Big Pun.
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[quote name='zewone']I don't think Talib used the line as harsh way to get at Jay-Z. All he did was flip the lyrics from the Black Album where Jay was saying pretty much that Kweli was the best lyricist right now. So I don't think he was mad at Jay. And did you not like Hov after The Takeover and Super Ugly? It seems that Nas is your favorite rapper and that may have knocked him down on why you don't like him. I would do a whole list of rappers I like like you but I hate placing them in order unless its the five everybody talks about like I already did.[/quote]
If I was really making a list my top 5 (not necessarily in order) would be Em, Mos Def, Nas, Kweli, and probably Dizzee at the moment. Red and Meth would be up there close to it too.
If I was really making a list my top 5 (not necessarily in order) would be Em, Mos Def, Nas, Kweli, and probably Dizzee at the moment. Red and Meth would be up there close to it too.
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