Are you less intense about the games you play now? (Past VS Present)

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Read this:
http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/xbox/11-signs-youre-no-longer-a-hard-core-gamer-329291

Yes, I found this article off of Kotaku but I think it brings up an interesting point... do you find yourself at all feeling not as intense when it comes to gaming?

I would have to start off by saying that I've lost some gaming passion... I don't have any more of those gaming moments where I feel like, "I have to get home to play!" or constantly thinking about games when I am not playing them. And I find myself finishing less and less games. I sometimes think I am getting bored of games in general... I'd rather sit on the internet and read about them then play them. I have gained a ton of passion for the game industry and developers but I have lost a lot of it in terms of playing them.

And I haven't even reached an old age yet.

So essentially do you find your self less "hardcore".
 
Having owned every Nintendo console since the NES (and a PS2), I've admittedly felt my hardcoreness slipping since the GameCube Era, and also with the Wii.

However, I now eliminate that deficiency with copious amounts of 360, keeping games until I net all achievements and starring in hardcore porn while performing extreme sports.

Or is it starring in extreme sports while performing hardcore porn?

~HotShotX
 
That list is giant amounts of stupid.

To me, hardcore is the guy who enjoys Persona 3 FES, much less know what it is, and casual's are the people who only get into one or two big games a year, like Madden or Halo, and mostly play Popcap stuff.

It's not about being a fanboy (what a stupid thing to put in the list) or being a dick to your significant other. I like the one about doing tedious bullshit for no reward, like the Assassin's Creed Templar stuff... that's not hardcore, that's just boring to do, and I'd rather be playing something else.

Hell, if you post on this website, you're more hardcore than the average gamer.

Basacially, that list boils down to "Hey, if you grew up and have responsibilities, you're no longer hardcore!". Just because you don't game 24/7 doesn't make you hardcore... when you start only playing Madden 09, stop buying other games, stop visiting gaming websites, then maybe you're not hardcore anymore.
 
ever since I could drive and actually allowed to have a life I have played video games less. When I was younger it was go to school then come home and play video games with my friends until I went to sleep. It got even worse when Xbox Live came out. Then about 2-3 years ago I have lost a lot of interest. I still buy games and play maybe 3-4 days a week for less than a hour a day now. Nothing like in the past. I am looking forward to GTAIV though. Even though I play less I have a 360,PS3, and Wii. Besides the 360 the other 2 collect dust and the PS3 is used as a Blu-Ray player. Wii just used when my buddies and I wana play Wii sports.
 
[quote name='Roufuss']That list is giant amounts of stupid.

To me, hardcore is the guy who enjoys Persona 3 FES, much less know what it is, and casual's are the people who only get into one or two big games a year, like Madden or Halo, and mostly play Popcap stuff.

It's not about being a fanboy (what a stupid thing to put in the list) or being a dick to your significant other. I like the one about doing tedious bullshit for no reward, like the Assassin's Creed Templar stuff... that's not hardcore, that's just boring to do, and I'd rather be playing something else.

Hell, if you post on this website, you're more hardcore than the average gamer.

Basacially, that list boils down to "Hey, if you grew up and have responsibilities, you're no longer hardcore!". Just because you don't game 24/7 doesn't make you hardcore... when you start only playing Madden 09, stop buying other games, stop visiting gaming websites, then maybe you're not hardcore anymore.[/QUOTE]

This is correct.
 
[quote name='Roufuss']

To me, hardcore is the guy who enjoys Persona 3 FES, much less know what it is, and casual's are the people who only get into one or two big games a year, like Madden or Halo, and mostly play Popcap stuff.

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How about this. I pre-ordered Persona 3 FES on amazon the day it was available. I checked the shipping everyday, bitched on the internet that it didn't ship on release day and so on. I was absolutely psyched to find it in my mail Friday and planned on playing it all night since the wife was out with her friends.

However, I got distracted when I saw Fight Club was on HBO, and ended up just sitting on my couch watching No Country for Old Men which I rented last Wednesday.

As of right now Persona 3 is still sitting in the amazon shipping box, on top of my mail pile.

I no longer feel any sense of hardcore.
 
Well for me I still feel hardcore. I started feeling more casual for a while because there were so many good games I never played and felt like I was more casual than hardcore. But then I realized there are a lot more better games coming out compared to the SNES era where it was like one 2-5 games a year that were worth.
 
[quote name='Roufuss']That list is giant amounts of stupid.

To me, hardcore is the guy who enjoys Persona 3 FES, much less know what it is, and casual's are the people who only get into one or two big games a year, like Madden or Halo, and mostly play Popcap stuff.

It's not about being a fanboy (what a stupid thing to put in the list) or being a dick to your significant other. I like the one about doing tedious bullshit for no reward, like the Assassin's Creed Templar stuff... that's not hardcore, that's just boring to do, and I'd rather be playing something else.

Hell, if you post on this website, you're more hardcore than the average gamer.

Basacially, that list boils down to "Hey, if you grew up and have responsibilities, you're no longer hardcore!". Just because you don't game 24/7 doesn't make you hardcore... when you start only playing Madden 09, stop buying other games, stop visiting gaming websites, then maybe you're not hardcore anymore.[/quote]

concur'd!

I think it's lame to say once you grow up unless you don't have a life, you won't be playing games. Does growing up ever stop football fans from liking football or movies buffs from watching movies a lot?

What about the hours of asinine tv people watch on the vh1, that's somehow supposed to be more mature than playing video games?

Sure, it might affect you a little, but if gaming is no longer your hobby odds are it's your fault for whatever reason. Usually because the person is insecure with themselves, which is pretty damn pathetic. I don't associate myself with the millions of other immature gamers out there, I just play games because they're fun. I could care less if I was the only mature one playing games, which I know certainly isn't true.
 
[quote name='jalu6']How about this. I pre-ordered Persona 3 FES on amazon the day it was available. I checked the shipping everyday, bitched on the internet that it didn't ship on release day and so on. I was absolutely psyched to find it in my mail Friday and planned on playing it all night since the wife was out with her friends.

However, I got distracted when I saw Fight Club was on HBO, and ended up just sitting on my couch watching No Country for Old Men which I rented last Wednesday.

As of right now Persona 3 is still sitting in the amazon shipping box, on top of my mail pile.

I no longer feel any sense of hardcore.[/QUOTE]

Ha, you probably burnt yourself out on it checking it every day ;)
 
[quote name='leveskikesko']concur'd!

I think it's lame to say once you grow up unless you don't have a life, you won't be playing games. Does growing up ever stop football fans from liking football or movies buffs from watching movies a lot?

What about the hours of asinine tv people watch on the vh1, that's somehow supposed to be more mature than playing video games?

Sure, it might affect you a little, but if gaming is no longer your hobby odds are it's your fault for whatever reason. Usually because the person is insecure with themselves, which is pretty damn pathetic. I don't associate myself with the millions of other immature gamers out there, I just play games because they're fun. I could care less if I was the only mature one playing games, which I know certainly isn't true.[/QUOTE]

When I lived in NY, we rented a room from my fiancee's family (yea, big mistake, it was only temp. but circumstances happened, i.e she kept raising the rent to where it was impossible to save anything), and her mom would CONSTANTLY tell me how stupid video games were, how dumb it was to play them, how I could be doing better things... basacially constant verbal abuse about it.

What's ironic about this? She spent all her time on the couch after work watching reality shows... and she couldn't miss an episode, no way, everyone had to be quiet around her when it came on or she would flip the fuck out.

I think as our generation grows up into the 40's, we're all cool with games, our kids will be cool, and it will be universally accepted much like movies.
 
I would agree with Roufuss and Kesko...

The biggest difference between my youth and today is that I would suffer through Odin Sphere as a kid just because the art was cool. These days I'm able to shelf/sell games that others think are cool if I hate them. I used to amass piles of console RPGs just for the anime aesthetic, not because of the gameplay. These days I'm much pickier about what I buy/play.
 
I would say Im just as hardcore about gaming now as I was early on. The only things that have changed obviously with getting older is a job,etc.etc..... so one of the big changes were time I have to play them. I am still anal about conditions of my games especially my RPG's.... I am starting to be less anal about "GH" versions of non RPG type games.. but for the most part I still frequent game sites, watch game videos.. etc. Im going to be 29 and have a 4 year old but I dont plan on stopping gaming it just has to find time in my little free time I have :)
 
[quote name='Roufuss']That list is giant amounts of stupid.

To me, hardcore is the guy who enjoys Persona 3 FES, much less know what it is, and casual's are the people who only get into one or two big games a year, like Madden or Halo, and mostly play Popcap stuff.

It's not about being a fanboy (what a stupid thing to put in the list) or being a dick to your significant other. I like the one about doing tedious bullshit for no reward, like the Assassin's Creed Templar stuff... that's not hardcore, that's just boring to do, and I'd rather be playing something else.

Hell, if you post on this website, you're more hardcore than the average gamer.

Basacially, that list boils down to "Hey, if you grew up and have responsibilities, you're no longer hardcore!". Just because you don't game 24/7 doesn't make you hardcore... when you start only playing Madden 09, stop buying other games, stop visiting gaming websites, then maybe you're not hardcore anymore.[/QUOTE]

I agree with this...

But I do find myself less hardcore than I used to be because... I just don't have the time anymore. There's just more games these days and less time so I tend to prefer games that won't make me pull out my hair.
 
I'm not really all that hardcore. I play games more than most average casual gamers, but I really don't take games too seriously. I like to play an RPG every once in a while and I enjoy playing games online with friends. I'm just the type whose not all about winning, but about having fun (one reason I love DDR a lot).
 
I hate the term hardcore, but I'm definitely into gaming less than I was 10-15 years ago in middle school through high school. But at the same time since getting a 360 in October I have gamed more than I had probably since the first couple of years of undergrad.

I've honestly never been super obsessed about gaming, it's always just been one of many hobbies and never been my number 1 hobby.

Sure, it might affect you a little, but if gaming is no longer your hobby odds are it's your fault for whatever reason. Usually because the person is insecure with themselves, which is pretty damn pathetic.
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I don't know that many people mean that so much as they just mean the don't have much time for hobbies at all anymore with career, wife, kids etc. And gaming takes a decent chunk of time. Factor that in with other hobbies that the person may have always put ahead of gaming and that's why some quit. I had nearly quit, and I'm still ambivalent about buying any consoles after this gen. Has nothing to do with the maturity level of games or anything like that, just that I've always had other hobbies I prioritize and my already limited freetime will get even more limited when I finish my Ph D and move on to struggling for tenure as an assistant professor.

Point being I don't think many people who were once "hardcore" gamers are the ones saying "games are for kids so I don't play them." Someone that says that likely was never more than a very casual gamer even in their childhood.
 
I hope that list was meant as a big joke. Because that's what it is, either way. And it's not even funny. I agree, it's just stupid.

And I agree with what many have said above; people who play all kinds of games and appreciate them are the real hardcore gamers. I personally like all different genres, and try to play ones that seem like they're trying something different and new. That's hardcore to me. Not playing Madden or Halo or GRAW or something all the time. As good as some of those games can be, it takes a lot less imagination to make or play those types of games. Shooters and sports games are a dime a dozen.

Also, I hate how common it is now to use negative humor in a completely unfunny way just to get some attention. Those writers obviously are as lame and "mainstream" as anyone they're trying to make fun of.
 
The more I play video games, the more I realize that there is no such thing as casual or hardcore. You either play video games, or you don't. Liking one type of game doesn't make you a casual gamer. What if you're pro at Madden? Are you still a casual even though you play it 24/7?
 
[quote name='naes']The more I play video games, the more I realize that there is no such thing as casual or hardcore. You either play video games, or you don't. Liking one type of game doesn't make you a casual gamer. What if you're pro at Madden? Are you still a casual even though you play it 24/7?[/QUOTE]

Yep, that's why I hate the casual vs. hardcore labels.

Really the only distinction that needs to be made is between amounts of time spent playing games--at least that's objective. But even then I really see the point.

Basing it on types of games is stupid. Someone that plays a bunch of random JRPGs isn't any more hardcore than someone that spends the same amount of time playing Madden, Halo and CoD4.
 
[quote name='naes']The more I play video games, the more I realize that there is no such thing as casual or hardcore. You either play video games, or you don't. Liking one type of game doesn't make you a casual gamer. What if you're pro at Madden? Are you still a casual even though you play it 24/7?[/QUOTE]

Then you're hardcore about Madden, but casual with games as a whole because you don't touch anything else. Just like someone who might be obsessed with, say, The Matrix, but doesn't really check out many other movies, wouldn't be called a movie buff.

In the industry definition, a casual gamer is someone who buys 3 or 4 games a year, they casually play what they have and don't care about new things unless they are beat over the head with them due to the hype train.

A casual gamer is someone who will only buy GTA 4 and Madden 09 this year, and that's it. They are a gamer, yea, and a huge market, but casual in the fact that they don't care about 99% of what's out there.

The holy grail is trying to get those casual people to buy your game, because they outnumber us 5 to 1... Call of Duty 4 did it, somehow.

Hardcore is a stupid word though, the meaning implies different things based on perception. If you see my first post, I distinguish it into more of a Gaming Afficionido (wow, bad spelling) over someone who just doesn't care. Just like you have people who love the movie industry and check out indie films, and those people who only care about big budget Hollywood films.
 
If you play Madden 24/7, you need to get out more.

Seriously, though, I agree that the labels are stupid. "Hardcore" can mean different things to different people. The list seemed to suggest that you had to spend all your time mastering some particular game or genre to be hardcore. I've always just thought of hardcore gamers as people who really love gaming as a hobby, and play more than what the mainstream gets into. People that actually appreciate games as art are way more "hardcore" to me than someone who plays Halo online 40 hours a week.

If you played guitar, but only practiced one song for 40 hours every week, would you be considered a hardcore guitarist? Or is it the person who learns multiple styles, songs, etc?
 
Most normal people grow up and have lives, thats just a fact of life. I don't think you should be considered any less hardcore just because your progressing through life like a normal person. To think that someone is less hardcore just because they have a job and a family is just asanine. I have much more respect for the people who have some sort of life and game along with whatever life has dealt them, rather than someone who lives JUST for videogames and has no life outside of them (unless of course you have a job in the game industry, which would make this point moot). :)

The labels seem to only exist amongst gamers and on the internet, as I have never witnessed a live discussion in a room of "casual vs hardcore". So a casual gamer likely doesn't even know that he or she is being branded a casual gamer.

I also think the beauty of video games is that everyone should be able to enjoy them whatever way they choose to. We are fortunate enough to have more variety than ever in video games and a much larger audience then that of the 70s and 80s. There are also more platforms and ways to enjoy games, so that will bring in new audiences too. Not everyone has to play video games 24/7 to be able to enjoy what they are doing, some people are perfectly content with playing cell phone games. People should be able to enjoy games as they see fit, after all if your not enjoying what your doing then there is no point in doing it at all.
 
I think they should have added to the list, "If you argue with the list, you are still hardcore"

A more appropriate title for this thread would be, "Do you feel less Hardcore?" I agree with your guy's defining of hardcore, I've always been an advocate of Jimmy the football player that plays Madden in Halo = Casual/Lightcore. And those that have a varied taste in games and have a passion for gaming and all of its aspects = Hardcore.

Sorry it was late I was just putting it out there hoping you guy's would get what I was saying.

I didn't think this would turn into a, "Define hardcore" debate. It's similar to the geek vs nerd debate.
 
I agree with most everything that has been said so far. Labels are arbitrary criteria launched by the "elite" (notice it is almost always those that consider themselves hardcore who are the first to start namecalling).

I was having conversation about this with someone recently, and I stumbled on a good term that I think fits many people on forums like this one. I check gaming blogs daily, listen to a dozen or more gaming podcasts, even host one myself, and have become known around the office as the gaming guy, the person to go to if someone has questions (granted I work for a bank, so most of my questions start with ,"My kid wants...."). But I still only buy 3-4 games a year, not counting Goozex, mostly because I don't have the time or the money to be picking up every hot new thing.

I'm "hardpoor"
 
[quote name='SkaGoblin']I agree with most everything that has been said so far. Labels are arbitrary criteria launched by the "elite" (notice it is almost always those that consider themselves hardcore who are the first to start namecalling).

I was having conversation about this with someone recently, and I stumbled on a good term that I think fits many people on forums like this one. I check gaming blogs daily, listen to a dozen or more gaming podcasts, even host one myself, and have become known around the office as the gaming guy, the person to go to if someone has questions (granted I work for a bank, so most of my questions start with ,"My kid wants...."). But I still only buy 3-4 games a year, not counting Goozex, mostly because I don't have the time or the money to be picking up every hot new thing.

I'm "hardpoor"[/quote]

Ahw interesting.

For me, I am similar in the way where I spend most of my time listening to every podcast I can find and browsing 4 gaming sites at once. But when it comes to games I don't feel as passionate playing them as I feel I used to. That's probably due to age, but I sometimes think it's the result of what gaming is now.

When I play a game now I feel more like I am just going through the motions, and not really feeling it. Maybe it's because I sort of mastered games where I can just pick up and rush through it because all games tend to have similar controls now in days. But, I am not really sure.

I kind of miss that emotional impact I'd get when playing games. The only thing that gets me going now is being in an intense COD4 match.
 
I've noticed lately that despite having plenty of games to play I just don't have the time or effort to care about starting them. The only thing I really use anymore is my PS3 and that's just to play Blu Rays...
 
I've actually come to a stand still over the last few months. I have plenty of games to play, and I keep buying them, but I never get around to playing them. They just kind of stack up on my shelf and stay sealed and alot of the time I just really don't have the urge to play them at all. I have to say this is a first for me. I've actually thought about leaving video games for a while and do something else with my time, but at the same time I don't want to. I don't play my consoles much, just usually my DS or PSP, but still not as much as I used to.

For the most part, I find that I'm more wrapped up in what's going on in the video game industry rather than playing video games. I listen to 4-6 podcasts a week, check 4-5 video game newsblogs about 6-8 times a day and read up on stuff that's going on in the industry. I guess I just find that more captivating than actually playing the games.
 
[quote name='SL4IN']I've actually come to a stand still over the last few months. I have plenty of games to play, and I keep buying them, but I never get around to playing them. They just kind of stack up on my shelf and stay sealed and alot of the time I just really don't have the urge to play them at all. I have to say this is a first for me. I've actually thought about leaving video games for a while and do something else with my time, but at the same time I don't want to. I don't play my consoles much, just usually my DS or PSP, but still not as much as I used to.

For the most part, I find that I'm more wrapped up in what's going on in the video game industry rather than playing video games. I listen to 4-6 podcasts a week, check 4-5 video game newsblogs about 6-8 times a day and read up on stuff that's going on in the industry. I guess I just find that more captivating than actually playing the games.[/QUOTE]


This is exactly how I feel, except I only buy games now when they are cheap, price drop or on sale, or when I can score the rare deal on ebay. I do play games that I have but it will be a long long time before I get to that stack of unplayed gamecube games... I hardly ever pay full release price for a game these days, because its just not worth it to me. I don't have any new-gen systems, simply because I don't want any of them. The games industry is very interesting and I read up on it a lot, its also good to read up on it because it can help you to avoid a craptacular game. Its fun to see how everything in the industry plays out with the new generation consoles. I own a DS and a PSP and am satisfied with my large collection of gamecube games.
 
Yeah I don't even play games anymore... although I'd definitely love to play GTA4, too bad I don't have one of them new fangled consoles (big GTA fan). I used to like fighting games a lot too but I rarely get to chance to play 2-player anymore, maybe during the summer... When I got a DS Lite I got into gaming pretty big again but I haven't played much lately at all. Probably been about a year.. I think the last game I played was Knuckles Chaotix on 32X, heh heh.
 
I think I actually play more games now that I'm older but that is because of my profession which allows me to not only have a ton of free time but also the ability to play during the day while I work.

The one thing that has changed for me in terms of my gaming experience is that I really don't look for challenges anymore. I used to always play games on hard or expert but now I just go for normal or even easy mode unless I know there is something special that comes from beating a game on the harder difficuilties. I guess I just want to play the game with as little frustration as possible.

I also seem to be buying fewer games in recent years despite having much more extra income than in years past. But on the flip side, I don't have any 360 or PS3 games that I haven't played extensively or beat while during the Xbox/PS2 days I amassed a huge backlog of60 or so games that I barely played or in some cases never even opened. I've got much better about only buying games that I'm actually going to play, regardless of the deals I come across.
 
[quote name='BillyBob29']I think I actually play more games now that I'm older but that is because of my profession which allows me to not only have a ton of free time but also the ability to play during the day while I work.
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Yeah, that will definitely vary by what your career and life is like. If you have a strict 9-5 job and don't have a family you'll definitely have more free time than you had in college etc.

If you have to work a lot more hours, work a job that still requires "homework" and or have a wife or kids then you have much less free time.
 
Well, I agree that that list is total BS. I do feel less "Hardcore" these days. However, I think this is more due to my lack of new consoles.

I don't have a 360, or a PS3 at my house. I also do not have any HDTV's and my PC gaming rig is getting out of shape. I am a sort of obsessive gamer, if I start playing something, I have to keep playing it non-stop until I finish it. If a take a break, I usually end up never finishing it.

I do also think there are less and less games that fall into the "I have to play that NOW!" Category. Sure there are a few like MGS4 and Fallout 3. But it used to be that I would look at gaming mags and I wanted almost every game in them, now usually there is only one or two that peak my interest.
 
I probably still game as much as I used to several years ago. But I'm not as "engaged" in todays games as I was before.

The first few weeks playing games like Tomb Raider, Counter-Strike, StarCraft, Baldur's Gate, Deus Ex, etc. were some of the best moments I've had for this hobby. Those were games that I'd be willing to phone in sick or rush out of class early to play.

But now? Obviously I still find games fun, or I wouldn't be playing them still. But I just feel they lack a certain "soul" that the earlier games I've played had.

Maybe I'm just setting the bar too high for the stuff I play, and being a Negative Nancy. But these days I find it very hard for me to play a game for more than 30 minutes at a time, and it's not like I don't have plenty of free time to do so.

Oh well. If you don't like the current games being released, make one yourself. ;)
 
I gravitate towards games that can be played in short bursts. I just don't have the patience for games that require you to play for long periods of time. Sometimes I play for 15 minutes, other times I play for 2 hours. Short chapters/missions are definitely a plus. That way, you can play as long as you want.

The biggest change in my gaming habits is my intolerance for frustrating game play. If a game is just too hard, has unfair AI, or the controls aren't right, I might turn the turn down the difficulty, or turn on cheats... just to experience the story without the frustration of being killed over and over again due to bad design.

I do a lot more research into what the industry and reviews than I used to. I haven't purchased a 360 or PS3 yet, but I already know what games I'm going to buy later on.
 
Well, part of the reason I'm not as hardcore/intense as I use to be has nothing to do with not enjoying games as much as I use to, I just have other more important things to do. Although I enjoy games, academics ALWAYS come first, meaning no games will be played until all my homework/projects/studying is done. I might take an occassional break, but I play something short like a DDR.
 
[quote name='evyrew']I gravitate towards games that can be played in short bursts. I just don't have the patience for games that require you to play for long periods of time. Sometimes I play for 15 minutes, other times I play for 2 hours. Short chapters/missions are definitely a plus. That way, you can play as long as you want.
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I'm more the opposite, though I do like at least being able to save whenever if something comes up.

But for the most part, the types of games suitable to play in short bursts don't hold my attention at all. That and I like to just set aside a couple of evenings a week that I can sit down and game for 2+ hours and take a nice break. I get more out of that than playing some puzzle or mini-game thing for 15 minutes several times a week.
 
I also find that a lot of games are nothing but hype. Game x is innovative, game x does this differently than game y, but in the end they are all just video games that you sit down to play, except for maybe the Wii but even with that, they are still just video games. They are video games, not god people.

I am really burned out on the hype machine that drives this industry, as in, YOU MUST HAVE IT NOW. No, I don't have to have it now, I can have it whenever I choose to have it, and at what price I want to pay for it. I control my own spending, if I don't want it, then I don't have to have it just because everyone else is buying it in droves.

I am also sick of companies hyping up something then delaying its release forever or saying something is coming out and then it never does, so now I am of the mind if I do not see it on store shelves or as in stock at online retailers it does not exist and I should not expect it to exist. I have watched games for months and some have taken even years to come out, and this is recently. I would be a lot more content if there were definite release dates in this industry, or even if they overestimated a date by a lot and then kept pushing it up, instead of constantly pushing the date further and further away.
 
[quote name='SaraAB']
I am really burned out on the hype machine that drives this industry, as in, YOU MUST HAVE IT NOW. No, I don't have to have it now, I can have it whenever I choose to have it, and at what price I want to pay for it. I control my own spending, if I don't want it, then I don't have to have it just because everyone else is buying it in droves.
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Just ignore it. I don't really read any game sites or blogs other than this one so I avoid the hype as much as I can and pay it no heed on here. Case in point, GTA IV, tons of hype but I hated GTA 3 when I played it so I still have no plans on buying it any time soon if ever.

I also seldom buy any games day 1 (maybe just something I know I want to play online) and just wait for deals or to get it on Goozex now that I've started using that site.
 
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