Best Xbox FPS, EXCLUDING Halo?

At the moment I really don't know of too many on the X BoX. XIII i found to be enjoyable for $13 when i got it at Fry's. Time splitters is also quite good. But if you hold on for another half a year, gmaes like Half-life 2 (hopefully) and Doom 3 will come out
 
Single Player:
Return to Castle Wolfenstein
Serious Sam - Very silly but LOADED with action

Multiplayer:
Serious Sam - My roommates and I have logged more time on this than any other game.
 
If you mean currently, I second Timesplitters 2 and also want to say Chronicles of Riddick.

In the future good FPS should be HL2, Doom 3, Republic Commando
 
Single Player: Chronicles of Riddick - This game rocked my feeble world

Multiplayer: Timesplitters 2 - Best multiplayer console FPS since Goldeneye
 
[quote name='BigNick']Counter Strike, Wolfenstein, XIII, Timesplitters 2. they are on xbox live, fun and cheap![/quote]

Unfortunately TimeSplitters 2 is not on Live (would have been great though)

TimeSplitters 3 this fall will support live (Woohooo :D )
 
[quote name='peteloaf']Single Player:
Return to Castle Wolfenstein
Serious Sam - Very silly but LOADED with action

Multiplayer:
Serious Sam - My roommates and I have logged more time on this than any other game.[/quote]

I didn't even have to say it. Sam is great, and I'd take it over Halo any day. Other good ones, but not as good as Sam, include Unreal Championship and like everyone said, Timesplitters 2.
 
[quote name='BigDirty'][quote name='peteloaf']Single Player:
Return to Castle Wolfenstein
Serious Sam - Very silly but LOADED with action

Multiplayer:
Serious Sam - My roommates and I have logged more time on this than any other game.[/quote]

I didn't even have to say it. Sam is great, and I'd take it over Halo any day. Other good ones, but not as good as Sam, include Unreal Championship and like everyone said, Timesplitters 2.[/quote]

Glad to see that there is some Serious Sam love around here. I personaly have been hooked ever since I played the tech demo on PC ages ago...

This is off topic but how are the PS2 & GC Serious sam games?
 
I've been addicted to counter-strike for months now on xbox live. Yes its just a PC game, but there's almost no cheating, speeds are better, people aren't as rude and hardcore, there's friends lists, voice chat, and better graphics. You also don't have to worry about your computer crashing when you play on xbox.

I'm Son of a Beep on counterstrike, just incase anyone else plays.
 
Star Wars Jedi Knight 2: jedi outcast and Star Wars Jedi Knoght 3 Jedi academy i found to be a lot o ffun and done very well. great FPSes but they are more third person action games than really a FPS
 
Chronicle of Riddick is not a FPS people, its a third person shooter. However, Timesplitters 2, Red Faction, Serious Sam, RtCW are all great games.
 
Here's another one for the in the future section, Call of Cthulu. It looks pretty good in the stage its at. Unreal 2 and Soldier of Fortuen were pretty good as well. and Cornfedwb, Chronciles of riddick is an FPS.
 
[quote name='peteloaf']
This is off topic but how are the PS2 & GC Serious sam games?[/quote]

They're kinda of bland to start off with, missing the Gnarrs, but get through the first hald, and there are some amazing levels, with all kinds of Shaq Fuing crazy gravity effects.

I've got it solely for the PS2 right now, and there are pieces of slowdown when things like homing munitions are used, since it adds to what needs to be processed. It's not quite as good as the Croteam ones (XBOX, First and Second Encoounters and Gold) but its still an enjoyable budget romp.
 
Pulled right from the official site for CoR.

"Revolutionary game design fuses frenetic first-person shooter action, stealth, and brutal hand-to-hand combat."
 
Unfortunately TimeSplitters 2 is not on Live (would have been great though)

TimeSplitters 3 this fall will support live (Woohooo :D )"


But it does support system link so therefore, you can play it on Xbox connect.
 
[quote name='Cornfedwb']Chronicle of Riddick is not a FPS people, its a third person shooter. However, Timesplitters 2, Red Faction, Serious Sam, RtCW are all great games.[/quote]

Why because he goes into third person mode when he climbs stuff? Come on dude. lol. I hope your being sarcastic.

Well from a single player experience I have to say COR has been the second best, behind Halo.

Multiplayer wise It's really up in the air, I would say either Wolfenstein or Counterstrike after I play it a bit, and both are just for Live. But if you need another system link game, go with Serious Sam, It's cheap and fun, and kicks some serious ass. But in the end Halo 2 will probably offer the best multiplayer FPS out of all games on the market, and perhaps the best single player. We shall see.
 
[quote name='Cornfedwb']Chronicle of Riddick is not a FPS people, its a third person shooter. However, Timesplitters 2, Red Faction, Serious Sam, RtCW are all great games.[/quote]

It's not a complete FPS, but it's a great shooter. Some moments in the game are third, but not all.
 
[quote name='Monsta Mack'][quote name='Cornfedwb']Chronicle of Riddick is not a FPS people, its a third person shooter. However, Timesplitters 2, Red Faction, Serious Sam, RtCW are all great games.[/quote]

Why because he goes into third person mode when he climbs stuff? Come on dude. lol. I hope your being sarcastic.

Well from a single player experience I have to say COR has been the second best, behind Halo.

Multiplayer wise It's really up in the air, I would say either Wolfenstein or Counterstrike after I play it a bit, and both are just for Live. But if you need another system link game, go with Serious Sam, It's cheap and fun, and kicks some serious ass. But in the end Halo 2 will probably offer the best multiplayer FPS out of all games on the market, and perhaps the best single player. We shall see.[/quote]

There was nothing great about the Halo SP experience. Generic kill stuff--hit switch--rinse--repeat. The environments were dull and repetitive, and indoor areas all looked the same. What made it great, bump mapping? Woohoo, bump mapping. And don't give me that "great AI" crap. Yes, the enemies were intelligent. All four different types of them. I would have been happier having these intense firefights in creative locales with some originality in mission structure.

CoR is probably best classified as an FPA title (first person ACTION), since it wasn't primarily a shooter. It is, of course, not THIRD-person. THIRD-person refers to the fact that you see your character all the time, and not in cutscenes or certain actions. Metroid Prime is not THIRD-person because Samus can roll into a ball.


Single Player is definitely Chronicles of Riddick. It's one of the few games in this generation (from a first-person perspective) that really captured my attention. Engaging gameplay and excellent pacing.

Beyond that, I'd recommend RTCW and Rainbow Six for their multiplayer components. Team-based Live! play is the way to go.
 
[quote name='WildWop']There was nothing great about the Halo SP experience. Generic kill stuff--hit switch--rinse--repeat. The environments were dull and repetitive, and indoor areas all looked the same. What made it great, bump mapping? Woohoo, bump mapping. And don't give me that "great AI" crap. Yes, the enemies were intelligent. All four different types of them. I would have been happier having these intense firefights in creative locales with some originality in mission structure.[/quote]

I disagree. Though Halo didn't INVENT vehicles in an FPS, it did nearly perfect them, and is the standard by which all FPS games now are judged. Even if it was "just another FPS", the vehicles alone were original enough and entertaining enough to want to play through it.

The story, even though some will disagree, was excellent for a video game. The voice acting was TERRIFIC and, even though you hardly know these characters, you WANT to save them and you feel bad for them when they die. Halo does a great job of pulling you "into it's world", so to speak.

Now the level designs, yes repetitive, and I agree that they should've had more types of enemies, but to me it was refreshing to see an FPS where it wasn't one level of a certain enemy, get to the end boss, kill it, and repeat. And, in terms of the story, it makes sense that you'd only see 4 or 5 types of enemies.

Now, here's my question. Did you play Halo before or after you heard about it? I ask because, when I first played, I had never heard of it nor touched an Xbox before, and I was completely blown away. I think some people have had to hear about how awesome it is, and they get so hyped for it, that when they finally play they're let down. If you go into the game with no expectations you come out of it feeling it's probably the best FPS ever made.

Oh, and to not derail the thread competely - the best non-Halo FPS games for Xbox are Rainbow Six 3 and Ghost Recon.
 
[quote name='mmn']Now the level designs, yes repetitive, and I agree that they should've had more types of enemies, but to me it was refreshing to see an FPS where it wasn't one level of a certain enemy, get to the end boss, kill it, and repeat. And, in terms of the story, it makes sense that you'd only see 4 or 5 types of enemies.[/quote]

There should still have been more than 4 or 5 types of enemies. These are entire RACES of ailens. Hell, I'll reiterate ALIENS. The designers have a license to do whatever they want, because who can tell them they're wrong when the thing they are creating are from another planet?

[quote name='mmn']

Now, here's my question. Did you play Halo before or after you heard about it? I ask because, when I first played, I had never heard of it nor touched an Xbox before, and I was completely blown away. I think some people have had to hear about how awesome it is, and they get so hyped for it, that when they finally play they're let down. If you go into the game with no expectations you come out of it feeling it's probably the best FPS ever made.[/quote]

It was the first thing I played on the Xbox, which a friend of mine got at launch. I've played HUNDREDS of hours of the game, mostly in 8+ LAN MP games, but I've played through the SP a few times for lack of a better thing to do with two people and an Xbox. My experience with the game is extensive, and hopefully unbiased.

[quote name='mmn']Oh, and to not derail the thread competely - [/quote]
I agree to that, sorry for getting sidetracked, OP.
 
[quote name='mmn']I disagree. Though Halo didn't INVENT vehicles in an FPS, it did nearly perfect them, and is the standard by which all FPS games now are judged. Even if it was "just another FPS", the vehicles alone were original enough and entertaining enough to want to play through it.[/quote]

I don't know that I'd consider the warthog "perfected".
 
people always seem to bring up the limited amount of aliens, but no one complains when all you do in WWII shooters is kill Germans
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']people always seem to bring up the limited amount of aliens, but no one complains when all you do in WWII shooters is kill Germans[/quote]

If you were killing.. say.. seal commandos or arabian terrorists it wouldn't really fit now would it? But when you're in a sci-fi setting they aren't constrained by fitting a historical setting.. that's why people complain they see the same enemy over and over again.
 
Halo was a first for me in a couple of things.

Limited arsenal, every other game the character could hold every single gun, before I played Halo. This adds a nice bit of strategic element to the game.
Weapons were pretty well balanced. I'm not too sure about the covenant's weaponry, though, since I liked using the human technology in almost any given situation.
Halo control scheme. I've seen quite a bit of magazines when I read about some new fps for a console, sometimes it says the fps is using the Halo control scheme for their game.
The A.I. was pretty good and made it lots of fun for me.
Co-op - I had never played co-op before for a fps and this is a great addition, the only other game where I have had an equal amount of fun later in fps co-op is Serious Sam, but I didn't care for RTCW and I flat out hated Unreal 2, which seemed too dark to actually play.
Vehicular combat - this part was also awesome to me

Some of those above features might not have been the first for a fps, since I'm not a fps fanatic. But enough Halo, I'll get back on topic.

I would go with Riddick for single player, even though it didn't seem too long and I probably won't give it another try since I beat the game on hard my first time I played the game, but the game was pretty immersive and in vin diesel's voice "beautiful".
Second if you want to play with friends, go with Serious Sam. Co-op is pretty fun with the game throwing hundreds of mindless enemies at you. I'm not sure if I would've liked this game as much if I played it alone since it got quite repetitve.
 
[quote name='Cornfedwb'][quote name='CaseyRyback']people always seem to bring up the limited amount of aliens, but no one complains when all you do in WWII shooters is kill Germans[/quote]

If you were killing.. say.. seal commandos or arabian terrorists it wouldn't really fit now would it? But when you're in a sci-fi setting they aren't constrained by fitting a historical setting.. that's why people complain they see the same enemy over and over again.[/quote]

Exactly.

Also look back to Perfect Dark. Lots of variety in mission structure and enemies throughout the game. A damn shame Perfect Dark Zero won't see the light of day until Xbox 2.
 
[quote name='WildWop'][quote name='Cornfedwb'][quote name='CaseyRyback']people always seem to bring up the limited amount of aliens, but no one complains when all you do in WWII shooters is kill Germans[/quote]

If you were killing.. say.. seal commandos or arabian terrorists it wouldn't really fit now would it? But when you're in a sci-fi setting they aren't constrained by fitting a historical setting.. that's why people complain they see the same enemy over and over again.[/quote]

Exactly.

Also look back to Perfect Dark. Lots of variety in mission structure and enemies throughout the game. A damn shame Perfect Dark Zero won't see the light of day until Xbox 2.[/quote]
Its rumored that we might see Perfect Dark on the Xbox, but because we did not see it at E3 I think that we may not see it this year.
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/grabbedbytheghoulies/news_6076756.html
 
For a while, Ghost Recon was my favorite, but it gets old after a while. I'd have to say Counterstrike is my favorite. Each time I play is a new experience, even against the computer.
 
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