Sweet Lou01
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I have a wired rr internet connection, Would it be best for me to get a wireless router or a nintendo lan adapter?
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[quote name='Kaijufan']If you plan on playing any online game (Smash, Mario Kart) get the LAN adapter.[/QUOTE]
Do you have any evidence anecdotal or scientific to back this up? As long as you have an 802.11g network with good signal strength I have not seen any problems. Most online games are adversely affected by latency and not bandwidth which is what most people give the reason for wired vs wireless connectivity.
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How far away will the future router be from the Wii? Things like fluorescent lighting, microwaves, cordless phones can all degrade the signal of your wireless networrk. I live in a small 1100 sq ft house with a wireless router and I get great signal throughout because it's not very hard to place my router centrally. My parents on the other hand have a 802.11N router on one side of the house and the computer is on the other in a 2500 sq ft house and they constantly drop packets.
If you decide to get a router I would get it through your ISP or a BB/CC so it's easy to return if you decide it doesn't work out.
Do you have any evidence anecdotal or scientific to back this up? As long as you have an 802.11g network with good signal strength I have not seen any problems. Most online games are adversely affected by latency and not bandwidth which is what most people give the reason for wired vs wireless connectivity.
EDIT:
How far away will the future router be from the Wii? Things like fluorescent lighting, microwaves, cordless phones can all degrade the signal of your wireless networrk. I live in a small 1100 sq ft house with a wireless router and I get great signal throughout because it's not very hard to place my router centrally. My parents on the other hand have a 802.11N router on one side of the house and the computer is on the other in a 2500 sq ft house and they constantly drop packets.
If you decide to get a router I would get it through your ISP or a BB/CC so it's easy to return if you decide it doesn't work out.
[quote name='gariig']Do you have any evidence anecdotal or scientific to back this up? As long as you have an 802.11g network with good signal strength I have not seen any problems. Most online games are adversely affected by latency and not bandwidth which is what most people give the reason for wired vs wireless connectivity.
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When using a wired connection the packet it created and sent down the Ethernet cable. It's fast and reliable.
With wireless the packet must be created, but then must be encrypted, then modulated so that the wireless device at the other end can receive it in a format it understands. The packet must then be decrypted, and then sent out to the internet. If a device only has one antenna then it can only transmit or receive, not both like with wired connections. Plus plenty of things in the house running on the same frequency can cause interference problems, and the further away from the wireless router a device is the weaker the signal.
Everything extra with a wireless connection does add to the latency, and in gaming you want to have as little latency as possible. Wireless networks work really well for many things, but for gaming a wired connection is better.
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When using a wired connection the packet it created and sent down the Ethernet cable. It's fast and reliable.
With wireless the packet must be created, but then must be encrypted, then modulated so that the wireless device at the other end can receive it in a format it understands. The packet must then be decrypted, and then sent out to the internet. If a device only has one antenna then it can only transmit or receive, not both like with wired connections. Plus plenty of things in the house running on the same frequency can cause interference problems, and the further away from the wireless router a device is the weaker the signal.
Everything extra with a wireless connection does add to the latency, and in gaming you want to have as little latency as possible. Wireless networks work really well for many things, but for gaming a wired connection is better.
For ease of use wireless can't be beat. Yes, wired is "superior" to wireless. However, if you are in a relatively small area then wireless works fine (~1500 sq ft or less). You also don't have to worry about network cable all over the place or drill holes in the walls to run it through the attic or basement if you have one.
I would not suggest hosting games over a wireless connection, but to just get on and play the new Medal of Honor, DBZ3, and any upcoming games wireless will be fine for your average user.
Also, don't forget that all online Wii games are going to be optimized for wireless connectivity because that is the default installation
As long as your Wii can get a good, strong signal everything is fine.
I would not suggest hosting games over a wireless connection, but to just get on and play the new Medal of Honor, DBZ3, and any upcoming games wireless will be fine for your average user.
Also, don't forget that all online Wii games are going to be optimized for wireless connectivity because that is the default installation
As long as your Wii can get a good, strong signal everything is fine.
[quote name='Kaijufan']When using a wired connection the packet it created and sent down the Ethernet cable. It's fast and reliable.
With wireless the packet must be created, but then must be encrypted, then modulated so that the wireless device at the other end can receive it in a format it understands. The packet must then be decrypted, and then sent out to the internet. If a device only has one antenna then it can only transmit or receive, not both like with wired connections. Plus plenty of things in the house running on the same frequency can cause interference problems, and the further away from the wireless router a device is the weaker the signal.
Everything extra with a wireless connection does add to the latency, and in gaming you want to have as little latency as possible. Wireless networks work really well for many things, but for gaming a wired connection is better.[/quote]
Huge amount of mis-information here.
Speed wise wireless = wired. The limiter is your cable modem's speed which, if your lucky, pulls down 5mbps. Even the first iteration of wireless, 802.11b more than doubles that speed at 11mbps. And g far exceeds it.
Your in-game lag will not be noticeable. We're talking about a signal that travels across the country through multiple stops in a fraction of a second. You really think that you're going to affect that in the short distance from your Wii to your modem?
The downside of wireless if it takes some configuration to get setup correctly and it occasionally will go down and require a restart of your router. It also can be interfered with by other wireless devices. The chance is about 1 in a hundred thousand though. I have two wireless phones, wireless speakers, and a wireless game adaptor all within 10 feet of one another and I never have a problem with "interference".
The downside of wired is you have a big freaking cable that you need to run through your house. And it has a distance limit. Plus don't think that wired is immune to interference. Just try running it too close to some power cables in the wall and you'll learn.
When it's all said and done, wireless is superior because it's convenient, stable and the speed is equal to any wired connection.
With wireless the packet must be created, but then must be encrypted, then modulated so that the wireless device at the other end can receive it in a format it understands. The packet must then be decrypted, and then sent out to the internet. If a device only has one antenna then it can only transmit or receive, not both like with wired connections. Plus plenty of things in the house running on the same frequency can cause interference problems, and the further away from the wireless router a device is the weaker the signal.
Everything extra with a wireless connection does add to the latency, and in gaming you want to have as little latency as possible. Wireless networks work really well for many things, but for gaming a wired connection is better.[/quote]
Huge amount of mis-information here.
Speed wise wireless = wired. The limiter is your cable modem's speed which, if your lucky, pulls down 5mbps. Even the first iteration of wireless, 802.11b more than doubles that speed at 11mbps. And g far exceeds it.
Your in-game lag will not be noticeable. We're talking about a signal that travels across the country through multiple stops in a fraction of a second. You really think that you're going to affect that in the short distance from your Wii to your modem?
The downside of wireless if it takes some configuration to get setup correctly and it occasionally will go down and require a restart of your router. It also can be interfered with by other wireless devices. The chance is about 1 in a hundred thousand though. I have two wireless phones, wireless speakers, and a wireless game adaptor all within 10 feet of one another and I never have a problem with "interference".
The downside of wired is you have a big freaking cable that you need to run through your house. And it has a distance limit. Plus don't think that wired is immune to interference. Just try running it too close to some power cables in the wall and you'll learn.
When it's all said and done, wireless is superior because it's convenient, stable and the speed is equal to any wired connection.
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Well said, daminion. Any latency caused by a wireless connection is not going to cause you to lose online matches (although it makes a handy excuse).
Just adding to what a previous poster said, a Wireless Network 802.11 G runs at 54 Mb/ per second, a typical standard DSL connection connects to the internet at a peak speed of about 3 Mb/ per second and a typical Cable connection peaks at about 5 - 6 Mb/ per second. The wireless in your house isn't going to slow you down. The main thing that will cause you any lag that you can control is if you have multiple machines actively hitting your router at the same time. I bought a linksys wireless router for about $50 right before I picked up my Wii and it was money very well spent. In fact I rarely experience any lag even while downloading bittorrent files on my main PC, and the wife internet surfing on her laptop, while also playing Gears on Xbox Live. I have a 3 Mb/ps DSL line.
[quote name='daminion']Huge amount of mis-information here.
Speed wise wireless = wired. The limiter is your cable modem's speed which, if your lucky, pulls down 5mbps. Even the first iteration of wireless, 802.11b more than doubles that speed at 11mbps. And g far exceeds it.
Your in-game lag will not be noticeable. We're talking about a signal that travels across the country through multiple stops in a fraction of a second. You really think that you're going to affect that in the short distance from your Wii to your modem?
The downside of wireless if it takes some configuration to get setup correctly and it occasionally will go down and require a restart of your router. It also can be interfered with by other wireless devices. The chance is about 1 in a hundred thousand though. I have two wireless phones, wireless speakers, and a wireless game adaptor all within 10 feet of one another and I never have a problem with "interference".
The downside of wired is you have a big freaking cable that you need to run through your house. And it has a distance limit. Plus don't think that wired is immune to interference. Just try running it too close to some power cables in the wall and you'll learn.
When it's all said and done, wireless is superior because it's convenient, stable and the speed is equal to any wired connection.[/quote] None of it is misinformation.
Everything I said is valid. Everything I listed does add latency and in games that require as little latency as possible (SSBB will most likely be one, I would imagine that having a little more latency in Mario Kart will be fine) you'll want a wired connection. While it might not be a lot of latency, you want that packet out of your house and into the cloud as fast as possible.
I'm also not saying that latency added by wireless routers is going to cause you too loose, but it could cause some hiccups, and if you want the best online gaming experence possible it's best to go with a wired connection.
Speed wise wireless = wired. The limiter is your cable modem's speed which, if your lucky, pulls down 5mbps. Even the first iteration of wireless, 802.11b more than doubles that speed at 11mbps. And g far exceeds it.
Your in-game lag will not be noticeable. We're talking about a signal that travels across the country through multiple stops in a fraction of a second. You really think that you're going to affect that in the short distance from your Wii to your modem?
The downside of wireless if it takes some configuration to get setup correctly and it occasionally will go down and require a restart of your router. It also can be interfered with by other wireless devices. The chance is about 1 in a hundred thousand though. I have two wireless phones, wireless speakers, and a wireless game adaptor all within 10 feet of one another and I never have a problem with "interference".
The downside of wired is you have a big freaking cable that you need to run through your house. And it has a distance limit. Plus don't think that wired is immune to interference. Just try running it too close to some power cables in the wall and you'll learn.
When it's all said and done, wireless is superior because it's convenient, stable and the speed is equal to any wired connection.[/quote] None of it is misinformation.
Everything I said is valid. Everything I listed does add latency and in games that require as little latency as possible (SSBB will most likely be one, I would imagine that having a little more latency in Mario Kart will be fine) you'll want a wired connection. While it might not be a lot of latency, you want that packet out of your house and into the cloud as fast as possible.
I'm also not saying that latency added by wireless routers is going to cause you too loose, but it could cause some hiccups, and if you want the best online gaming experence possible it's best to go with a wired connection.
[quote name='mofo1115']If there really is a lag problem I'm definitely getting the lan adapter for brawl but I really don't anticipate a problem.[/QUOTE]
If so, I'm getting Nintendo to return the game for me. If an OFFICIALLY licensed game can't use the default hardware of my machine then I'm calling it quits.
Wireless is fine as long as you have a good connection between your Wii and wireless router.
If so, I'm getting Nintendo to return the game for me. If an OFFICIALLY licensed game can't use the default hardware of my machine then I'm calling it quits.
Wireless is fine as long as you have a good connection between your Wii and wireless router.
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