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Bikers roll to military funerals to oppose anti-gay protests

FORT CAMPBELL, Kentucky (AP) -- Wearing vests covered in military patches, a band of motorcyclists rolls around the country from one soldier's funeral to another, cheering respectfully to overshadow jeers from church protesters.

They call themselves the Patriot Guard Riders, and they are more than 5,000 strong, forming to counter anti-gay protests held by the Rev. Fred Phelps at military funerals.

Phelps believes American deaths in Iraq are divine punishment for a country that he says harbors homosexuals. His protesters carry signs thanking God for so-called IEDs -- explosives that are a major killer of soldiers in Iraq.

The bikers shield the families of dead soldiers from the protesters, and overshadow the jeers with patriotic chants and a sea of red, white and blue flags.

"The most important thing we can do is let families know that the nation cares," said Don Woodrick, the group's Kentucky captain. "When a total stranger gets on a motorcycle in the middle of winter and drives 300 miles to hold a flag, that makes a powerful statement."

At least 14 states are considering laws aimed at the funeral protesters, who at a recent memorial service at Fort Campbell wrapped themselves in upside-down American flags. They danced and sang impromptu songs peppered with vulgarities that condemned homosexuals and soldiers.

The Patriot Guard was also there, waving up a ruckus of support for the families across the street. Community members came in the freezing rain to chant "U-S-A, U-S-A" alongside them.

"This is just the right thing to do. This is something America didn't do in the '70s," said Kurt Mayer, the group's national spokesman. "Whether we agree with why we're over there, these soldiers are dying to protect our freedoms."

Shirley Phelps-Roper, a daughter of Fred Phelps and an attorney for the Topeka, Kansas-based church, said neither state laws nor the Patriot Guard can silence their message that God killed the soldiers because they fought for a country that embraces homosexuals.

"The scriptures are crystal clear that when God sets out to punish a nation, it is with the sword. An IED is just a broken-up sword," Phelps-Roper said. "Since that is his weapon of choice, our forum of choice has got to be a dead soldier's funeral."

The church, Westboro Baptist Church, is not affiliated with a larger denomination and is made up mostly of Fred Phelps' extended family members.

During the 1990s, church members were known mostly for picketing the funerals of AIDS victims, and they have long been tracked as a hate group by the Montgomery, Alabama-based Southern Poverty Law Center's Intelligence Project.

The project's deputy director, Heidi Beirich, said other groups have tried to counter Phelps' message, but none has been as organized as the Patriot Guard.

"I'm not sure anybody has gone to this length to stand in solidarity," she said. "It's nice that these veterans and their supporters are trying to do something. I can't imagine anything worse, your loved one is killed in Iraq and you've got to deal with Fred Phelps."

Kentucky, home to sprawling Fort Campbell along the Tennessee line, was among the first states to attempt to deal with Phelps legislatively. Its House and Senate have each passed bills that would limit people from protesting within 300 feet of a funeral or memorial service. The Senate version would also keep protesters from being within earshot of grieving friends and family members.

Richard Wilbur, a retired police detective, said his Indiana Patriot Guard group only comes to funerals if invited by family. He said he has no problem with protests against the war but sees no place for objectors at a family's final goodbye to a soldier.

"No one deserves this," he said.




At least some people are visibly standing up to these psycho fUCks, though it would be best if only family and friends were there and it didnt turn into a circus.
 
Cheering at a funeral doesnt strike me as a good thing either, but what the hey anything is better than the Phelp Phucktards.
 
Your 19 year old son was just blown up by a 14 year old Iraqi car bomber. You go to bury him and are picketed by Fred Phelps and his family because George Bush loves homos, you didn't even vote for him, it's not your fault! On top of that, 200 bikers just showed up and are cheering USA, USA, USA and revving their motorcycles so loud that you can't hear the words of the pastor. Yeah, they're making it better.
 
They may have enviable goals, but I'm not sure if I want bikers making a commotion outside even if they're supporting me.

Though phelps is really a nutcase, and usually ends up being guarded by cops to protect him.
 
It's too bad it's come to this, but unfortunately Phelps and his ilk (read: scum of the earth) abuse the same speech rights you and I cherish and respect (for the most part). So I think it's a very kind gesture from this group of bikers, so if the funeral is not peaceful, at least it isn't a one-sided yay-your-kid-is-dead affair.
 
Another problem that phelps is creating is that 16 states are creating anti-demonstration laws at funerals, which sound logical, but inherently chip away at the 1st ammendment.
 
[quote name='E-Z-B']Another problem that phelps is creating is that 16 states are creating anti-demonstration laws at funerals, which sound logical, but inherently chip away at the 1st ammendment.[/QUOTE]

It doesn't sound logical precisely because it is contrary to the first amendment. It does sound polite, however; while I despise Phelps and the WBC, I don't wish to see funerals of any sort, much less soldiers, become the battleground over fundamentalist christianity versus nationalists.

That having been said, I wouldn't be outraged if someone mauled Phelps with their hog.
 
[quote name='MrBadExample']Why isn't there a 24-hour protest vigil around Phelps' house when he's home? See how he likes it.[/QUOTE]

Sounds like a good idea.
 
what would you expect from Hate Groups? To just sit around? Chuck norris time


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aww yeah
 
Some of these guys were picketing a funeral in New England of a Marine that died in Afghanistan. His special forces buddies beat the crap of them before the family got there.

They used to do this at the funerals of people that died from AIDS, they'd say that AIDS was god's way of punishing the fags, and since they had AIDS, they're fags. As horrible as that is, nobody really cares about gays or AIDS. Dead soldiers are about as universally respected as you can get, so its a logical target for them. This is all about attention. This pisses off absolutely everybody.

If you sat down and thought about what you could do, to get as many people to hate you as possible, you couldn't come up with anything that would get you as universally hated as that. Neo Nazis aren't even as hated as they are. And thats exactly the reaction they want.

This is a very revealing article about this guy. He's worse than you think.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rev._Fred_Phelps
 
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