Black Spider man? Would be pretty sweet.

[quote name='crunchb3rry']Dude, they already turned the Karate Kid black. Enough. Stop.[/QUOTE]

The problem with the new karate kid movie isn't that the kid is black but that he's taught Kung Fu in China by Jackie fucking Chan.
 
[quote name='draven1089']A black spiderman???????? Come on. I have nothing against other "colors'' but really????[/QUOTE]

Wow, some people are really upset by this. I imagine you thought it was just fine that white actors played the non-white leads in Prince of Persia and Airbender. This has been done plenty before. But god forbid your sacred whiteness of certain characters is changed. Seems like you have something against "other 'colors'."
 
Even fucking stan Lee the dude that came up with spiderman said Peter Parker could be white,black,asina whatever. Its not like casting a black actor is automatically going to make the movie some sort of blacksploitation film.
 
[quote name='joeboosauce']Wow, some people are really upset by this. I imagine you thought it was just fine that white actors played the non-white leads in Prince of Persia and Airbender. This has been done plenty before. But god forbid your sacred whiteness of certain characters is changed. Seems like you have something against "other 'colors'."[/QUOTE]


well one of the actors in the airbender is indian i believe lol. that said that really sucks. i still dont get why they went with nonasians on that one.
 
OK. i know I have made some sarcastic comments attempting to alleviate the seriousness of the topic and tried to interject some humor but let me be serious here.

Why is there this sudden feeling over the past few years in Hollywood that there needs to be more Black leading roles? I mean seriously, I get that we are still trying to overcome racism and make amends for the shit that has happened in the past, but to just start throwing black actors into roles that honestly dont work for them is crap.
Want some examples... ok. The new Honeymooners movie a few years ago. That was total shit. Supposedly a reboot from the tv show which was honestly some of Jackie Gleasons greatest comedy bits, they fucking ruined any chance of making any interest in this movie by shoving black actors into those roles. That movie turned to crap due to it. They did not fit those roles that the whole damn thing was based on. Also, lets not forget the wonderful attempt at a new Caddyshack movie... Who's Your Caddy? Seriously.... Now you want to take a franchise that is solidly set having a white male protagonist and "reboot" it with a black male lead? Let me guess, while you are at it you would probably want Tyler Perry to direct this shit also right? Hell lets go all the way and instead of Aunt May it can be Aunt Madea. Hell maybe he can even get to Meet the Browns while he's at it.

I am a sound believer in the old addage "If it's not broke don't fix it." I have no problem with a reboot. I have no problem with continuing on the same storyline and just changing lead actors. I do have a problem with changing the whole foundation that a franchise is based on.
 
Its not really all about the actor being black, it shows that hollywood execs are willing to do something new for a change other then all these remakes. fuck spider man lets get a Berserk or hellsing movie out.
 
[quote name='Spyder187']OK. i know I have made some sarcastic comments attempting to alleviate the seriousness of the topic and tried to interject some humor but let me be serious here.

Why is there this sudden feeling over the past few years in Hollywood that there needs to be more Black leading roles? I mean seriously, I get that we are still trying to overcome racism and make amends for the shit that has happened in the past, but to just start throwing black actors into roles that honestly dont work for them is crap.
Want some examples... ok. The new Honeymooners movie a few years ago. That was total shit. Supposedly a reboot from the tv show which was honestly some of Jackie Gleasons greatest comedy bits, they fucking ruined any chance of making any interest in this movie by shoving black actors into those roles. That movie turned to crap due to it. They did not fit those roles that the whole damn thing was based on. Also, lets not forget the wonderful attempt at a new Caddyshack movie... Who's Your Caddy? Seriously.... Now you want to take a franchise that is solidly set having a white male protagonist and "reboot" it with a black male lead? Let me guess, while you are at it you would probably want Tyler Perry to direct this shit also right? Hell lets go all the way and instead of Aunt May it can be Aunt Madea. Hell maybe he can even get to Meet the Browns while he's at it.

I am a sound believer in the old addage "If it's not broke don't fix it." I have no problem with a reboot. I have no problem with continuing on the same storyline and just changing lead actors. I do have a problem with changing the whole foundation that a franchise is based on.[/QUOTE]

1. They haven't said who they are casting yet
2. A black peter parker is not going to completely change movie. It will be the same fucking movie just the actor playing peter will be of a different race. Have you seen community? Donald Glover is perfect for the part.
3. I really think you must be racist of something if you have such a big problem with an actor with a different skin tone playing Peter Parker and you think its going to become some sort of bullshit movie.
4.Would you rather have them cast a boring generic white actor with no comedy skills?
 
[quote name='joeboosauce']Wow, some people are really upset by this. I imagine you thought it was just fine that white actors played the non-white leads in Prince of Persia and Airbender. This has been done plenty before. But god forbid your sacred whiteness of certain characters is changed. Seems like you have something against "other 'colors'."[/QUOTE]

I don't agree with that guy but the guy in Prince of Persia is a white guy portraying a Persian. Not saying it's right or wrong or whatever but there you go.
 
[quote name='lokizz']well one of the actors in the airbender is indian i believe lol. that said that really sucks. i still dont get why they went with nonasians on that one.[/QUOTE]

Noah Ringer the actor who plays Aang is a 12 year old first degree black belt so I understand that choice.

Dev Patel was in Slumdog Millionaire and was very likeable in the role.

Not a lot of asian american or native american child actors I guess.

When I see the movie and if the actors completely mess it up then I will be upset. Until then I will give them the benefit of the doubt.
 
[quote name='budsmoka']
4.Would you rather have them cast a boring generic white actor with no comedy skills?[/QUOTE]

They already did that. His name was Tobey Maguire. :lol:
 
I know and he was a terrible Spiderman. Spidey is all about the wise cracks when hes in a fight and Tobey just couldn't deliver the goods.
 
[quote name='Trakan']I like Donald Glover and think he's funny on Community, but I don't want him to be Spider-Man...[/QUOTE]

How come?
 
[quote name='budsmoka']3. I really think you must be racist of something if you have such a big problem with an actor with a different skin tone playing Peter Parker and you think its going to become some sort of bullshit movie.
4.Would you rather have them cast a boring generic white actor with no comedy skills?[/QUOTE]


I'm racist because I dont want a black spiderman? Then I guess there are a shitload of racists here cause it seems alot of people arent interested in this. As far as a different skintone affecting the movie, yes it does due to how it all works in the backstory and how it meshes with the nostalgia of the comic book franchise.

As far as a borgin white generic actor, they did that already as someone else pointed out. Honestly I didnt have any problems with the first 3 movies. The last one was a bit bleh with some of the storylines , but other than that I didnt have an issue with it.

Since they feel the need to reboot the series I am sure there are a few good fits for the lead role that can keep it true to the comics origin. That is my main gripe about this. To me its not about a color issue, its about keeping true to the franchise. I already dont like that they have to alter some of the stories to make them work in a movie and issues of the like, but some things just are not possible to make happen in the movies.
 
The bottom line is that I'd be behind Glover if only because he has a personality. What worries me is that if they go back to a high school age Spidey, we'll get a flavor-of-the-week model-trying-to-act... you know, Twilight, but with tights.

What Glover can be is a break from what I worry the standard (read: pretty white boy) casting will be. If they're going to reboot this thing, go with a different choice, an unsafe choice, a choice that isn't made by looking at the box office of things like Twilight. Spider-Man has gone off the rails, so you might as well try something different.
 
[quote name='Frogurt.man']How come?[/QUOTE]

For the same reason I didn't like Schwarzenegger as Mr. Freeze. It's just not right.
 
A white Peter Parker staring out of his room to Mary Jane's room is budding love. A black Peter Parker would just get the cops called on him.

I'm just sayin.
 
[quote name='phantasyx']Its not really all about the actor being black, it shows that hollywood execs are willing to do something new for a change other then all these remakes. fuck spider man lets get a Berserk or hellsing movie out.[/QUOTE]

Damn, I would love a berserk or hellsing movie. Actually isnt there already a berserk movie? Although they would probably just screw it up completely.

Back on point. Again, some of you are simply coming off narrow minded at the best and hitting the bigot button at worst.

Why is the new karate kid movie a big deal? Because the lead is now black? There is like 12 fucking shitty sequels to the Karate Kid why is that you are just now saying, "awwww come on Hollywood really?"

Like its vital to the story of kid gets bullied then beats up bullies he be white? The original actor could have been a albino prince and it wouldnt have changed a single line in the movie.

Some of you seem offended if a non white is cast regardless of whether it matters or not to the over all story. Just pissed that it didnt go your way this time or something because you ignored the millions of other times it did. (although nothing has been cast.)
 
[quote name='Frogurt.man']They already did that. His name was Tobey Maguire. :lol:[/QUOTE]

so damn true i still cringe at the way he delivered his lines of the spiderman 2 game.....or for all the games for that matter.so far theres been 2 actors who perfectly pulled off the comic book characters they were portraying wesley snipes and robert downey junior. oh yeah make that 3 brandon lee for the crow.

as much as i want to hate on the new karate kid flick because of will smiths involvement i do think the choice of settings and the situation make sense. but the kid should lose because no matter how hard he trains how the fuck could he possibly win against kids who have been practicing martial arts most of their lives?
 
[quote name='johnnypark']I'm completely indifferent on the issue. A good actor is a good actor, his race has nothing to do with it.[/QUOTE]

Thank you. Some people don't get that the movies are supposed to be an adaptation. As long as they don't fuck up the story like DB Evolution, Peter can be blue for all I care.
 
[quote name='joeboosauce']Wow, some people are really upset by this. I imagine you thought it was just fine that white actors played the non-white leads in Prince of Persia and Airbender. This has been done plenty before. But god forbid your sacred whiteness of certain characters is changed. Seems like you have something against "other 'colors'."[/QUOTE]

You sound absolutely nuts.

Anything that would break immersion is considered bad in movies today, especially big franchises using extremely iconic heroes. The Prince of Persia is white because that's the Western demographic they were trying to appeal to. Do you think they'd make the Twilight guy black on a whim simply because they found a better actor?

And Aang? Who the hell cares? It's some Nickelodeon kid show and any screen shot of him in it, well, he looks like a white kid there too.

Instead of calling out people as racists you could simply ponder over the idea that drastically changing the look of an iconic character looks extremely unprofessional. But as a person who doesn't care about Spider Man whatsoever, I think it would be pretty cool/funny to see that as well.
 
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Spider man is known for his mask. Peter looks like a completely different dude every time another artist draws him. Being white is not one for his defining characteristics.
 
[quote name='SneakyPenguin']Coming soon...Black White Panther, starring Tom Hanks![/QUOTE]
no, "tom hanks stars in the last $$$$a on earth."-Paul Mooney

Seriously this is all about race, they couldn't possibly please the fans by going directly from the source material (They'll always fail) so I think they should just though a modern day twist. You can't deny it wouldn't be at least remotely interesting to see. We all know that a sequel would be stupid to this movie anyway. So lets just get one black spidey in. Mary Jane could just be weed, epic weakness here.
 
[quote name='budsmoka']Spider man is known for his mask. Peter looks like a completely different dude every time another artist draws him. Being white is not one for his defining characteristics.[/QUOTE]

It's the only thing that has remained constant then, by that logic. How is that not defining?
 
[quote name='phantasyx']Mary Jane could just be weed, epic weakness here.[/QUOTE]

I'm really liking where this is going.
 
[quote name='phantasyx']We all know that a sequel would be stupid to this movie anyway. So lets just get one black spidey in. Mary Jane could just be weed, epic weakness here.[/QUOTE]
Staring Dave Chappelle as spiderman lol.
 
[quote name='blissskr']Staring Dave Chappelle as spiderman lol.[/QUOTE]

That would be amazing lol! Honestly, I can see it from both points of view. I don't think it should be the end of the world if they change the race of a character. If the actor can convey and make us think of the comic book character while we watch, then they have done their job regardless of race. Plenty of movies have taken poetic licenses with material and some of them have actually turned out even better than the original material.

However, it REALLY threw me off to see a black Nick Fury. It still does! I think there is something to be said for staying true to the source. Although I'd like to see more black superheroes, (There's an idea, create a NEW superhero! Or better yet, give us a Static Shock movie!) don't change the main ones so you can fill a minority quota in Hollywood. Just saying...
 
Personally, I wish they would shelve all of these superhero movie sequels and reboots and "reimaginings" and go with some different superheros.

How about She-Hulk(who could actually talk n say more than 'HULK SMASH')or Spiderwoman or someone.....anyone other than the same fuckin' tired characters over and over and over and over and over.

How about some original ideas, Hollywood?

As for a black Spiderman, I don't really give a shit one way or the other, since the only way I've seen any movies as of late is when they come on basic cable 2-3 years after release or if a friend decides to play it off of one of the movie channels on their digital cable.

I refuse to pay for these shitty remakes and sequels.
 
I can't believe people are pissy about Spider-Man's race. So what if Peter Parker's white? What he deals with on a daily basis, in and out of costume, is what attracts people to Spider-Man. He worries about money, about his Aunt May, he worries whether or not he can survive until the next day. He as a normal person has so many barriers to overcome, and that what makes him a real superhero compared to those other muscle bound freaks. Hell, you might as well make him a single mother.
 
[quote name='batman1939']I'm Mexican, hispanic, latino. So yeah to me we're all Mexican. But according to the Census I'm White.



So will Mary Jane be white, black, or other?......Oh fuck I just started another thread[/QUOTE]


Dude, I use to work for the Census, how the hell were you marked down as white when there was a section for Mexican?
 
[quote name='joeboosauce']Wow, some people are really upset by this. I imagine you thought it was just fine that white actors played the non-white leads in Prince of Persia and Airbender. This has been done plenty before. But god forbid your sacred whiteness of certain characters is changed. Seems like you have something against "other 'colors'."[/QUOTE]

Really? Lets see, even in the video games of POP everyone was white so I don't see where your going with this except for trying to start some racial fight. But I protest to a black spider-man only for the fact of growing up on the comics, they've already ruined my fond memories of transformers.
 
[quote name='draven1089']Really? Lets see, even in the video games of POP everyone was white so I don't see where your going with this except for trying to start some racial fight. But I protest to a black spider-man only for the fact of growing up on the comics, they've already ruined my fond memories of transformers.[/QUOTE]

But that really isnt the actors fault at all so you are fighting the wrong battle. Thats its the Producers who want to movie to make tons of money, Directors who are pressured to change everything for a mainstream audience, Casting directors who cast solely on star power and money draw, Writers who are pressured to make up a more mainstream story line.

You are looking at one very small cog in this blaming it all on him. As everyone said, changing Parkers race really doesnt change the story at all...yea small details might be modified but nothing vital needs to be changed.

You comic book guys need to give up and then get over that fallacy that a comic can directly translate to a movie. Its impossible. Even Iron Man was changed quite a bit for movie form.
 
But Iron Man was still white and that's the important part. If he was black that would ruin everything. I don't know how or why, but it totally would.
 
[quote name='SpazX']But Iron Man was still white and that's the important part. If he was black that would ruin everything. I don't know how or why, but it totally would.[/QUOTE]

Because his suit would have spinners and rims on it. Then War Machine would have to be Asian because you cant have two black stars in the same movie. Plus they would need to change the suit to be mobile enough for him to do, Rerun's Pop and Lock routine.
 
I thought black Spider-man was already in Spider-man 3 - I think they called him Venom or something. I'm so confused.




:mrgreen:
 
[quote name='javeryh']I thought black Spider-man was already in Spider-man 3 - I think they called him Venom or something. I'm so confused.




:mrgreen:[/QUOTE]


:roll:. This isnt your office Javeryh. Your lawyer humor have no place here.



:lol:.....I kid, I kid.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']
You are looking at one very small cog in this blaming it all on him. As everyone said, changing Parkers race really doesnt change the story at all...yea small details might be modified but nothing vital needs to be changed.

You comic book guys need to give up and then get over that fallacy that a comic can directly translate to a movie. Its impossible. Even Iron Man was changed quite a bit for movie form.[/QUOTE]


Your right it doesn't change the story but I'll bet money on the fact that if Hollywood changes the race then yes the story will be changed. As Hollywood tends to use stereotypes for races.


You comic book guys!!!!!!!!!!!! Dude those are fighting words to some. LOL
 
[quote name='draven1089']Your right it doesn't change the story but I'll bet money on the fact that if Hollywood changes the race then yes the stroy will be changed. As Hollywood tends to use sterio types for races.


You comic book guys!!!!!!!!!!!! Dude those are fighting words to some. LOL[/QUOTE]

Now, that is a legit concern.

God I hope Hollywood can do this without being typical.

Hollywood wont be able to stop themselves. They wont be able to just make parker black and leave everything else the same. Suit has to be patent leather because you know us black folks we gotz to b fly urrvery where we go!
 
[quote name='draven1089']Really? Lets see, even in the video games of POP everyone was white ....[/QUOTE]

Unless you mean the 2008 crapfest where the Prince was voiced by Nolan North, no, they weren't. At least no more "white" than actual Iranians, anyway.
 
If they choose a a half black, half asian, transgendered and handicapped spider-man they could get their movie budget from the government.
^fact

But as a reply to the op, I believe that if the actor is good and he/she suits the character, race is irrelevant.
 
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