Blue Dragon outsells all Wii games including Zelda in Japan

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[quote name='CVG'] Ladies and gentlemen, you might want to sit down; flagship Xbox 360 RPG Blue Dragon has outsold the recently released Zelda: Twilight Princess - and all other Wii software - in Japan.

Meanwhile Nintendo's latest Zelda has shockingly dwindled all the way to number 17 in Japan, only a week after it was bested by mini-game titles Wii Sports and Wii Play during the Far Eastern console launch.[/quote]

Wow.

Edit: It's probably good for gaming when an original game beats a rehash.
 
Its not unusual for new stuff to place highly on the list. RPGs tend to burn out though and drop off the list pretty fast.

That 80k figure includes 30k preorders that came with the Blue Dragon bundle. You can have your fun for one week though.
 
[quote name='Dr Mario Kart']Its not unusual for new stuff to place highly on the list. RPGs tend to burn out though and drop off the list pretty fast.

That 80k figure includes 30k preorders that came with the Blue Dragon bundle. You can have your fun for one week though.[/quote]


:rofl: With all the xbox360 sales problems in Japan that's the best you can come up with?
 
Meanwhile Nintendo's latest Zelda has shockingly dwindled all the way to number 17 in Japan, only a week after it was bested by mini-game titles Wii Sports and Wii Play during the Far Eastern console launch.
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This is even more shocking... number 17? That's quite a drop.
 
[quote name='Dr Mario Kart']That 80k figure includes 30k preorders that came with the Blue Dragon bundle.[/QUOTE]

Uhh...so? The 360 was barely selling before in Japan, and suddenly the Blue Dragon bundle gets 30k preorders. Why shouldn't those be included in the figures? In fact this works against you, it means those 30k people are willing to buy a 360 just to play Blue Dragon. WTF? How biased can you get?
 
Good start, hopefully for them it manages to outsell DOA4. Now if only that Gundam game didn't have the most fake-sounding name, the Japanese market would seem more American.

Not really surprising that it would outsell Wii and PS3 stuff... Zelda in particular only had about a 40% attach rate on launch, and early numbers say Wii sold 100k last week. Either Americans like Zelda more or you're just seeing the "expanded audience" in Japan that doesn't give a shit about Zelda.

There it is: Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Destiny: Federation vs. Z.A.F.T. II Plus

Are they serious?
 
Here's a question. Whatre the avaliability differences in Jápan between the Wii and 360? I'm sure the 360 is much more plentiful. Much more. And cheaper to boot.

I doubt even the Japanese would buy a game for a system they don't have.
 
this great news.this might be one big step for japanese developers to make more games for xbox360 since now the system is selling.i have feeling more rpgs will be out for xbox 360 since ps3 has high development cost and wii control function are not so great with rpg
 
But they'd buy one game for a system they haven't wanted for over a year? I'm not sure I buy that entirely.

Nevertheless, Xbox is so dismal in Japan that the PS3 has outsold it. Before Blue Dragon, there was a handful over 100,000 360 consoles sold in Japan (it was released at the same time - if not to the day, then awfully close, of the US release). Knowing that, a one-week sale of 30,000 consoles+ and 80,000 pieces of software suggests (1) a damn-near 2:3 attach ratio for *all* 360 owners and Blue Dragon, or perhaps (2) more interest in 360 titles. Dead Rising rec'd the dreaded "Z" rating over there, so casual customers won't find out about it. They may, however, also have interest in Lost Planet and the like.

Here's hoping this is momentum for them, and not a blip that will all but disappear by 2007.
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The 360 has sold about 106K this year and assuming it sold about 100K last year, the Wii has already outsold it.

And as much as I'm looking forward to Blue Dragon, it's not going to last. I don't think so anyway. It might be in the top 10 next week but no more than that. The real shocker here is how fast Zelda and WarioWare fell... looks like the appeal of Nintendo's own 'easy to play and for everyone' games killed two of their biggest titles.
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[quote name='zewone']the wii has already sold more then the 360. it has nothing to do with availability.[/QUOTE]
There we go. I have to agree with everyone who said this is good news.

[quote name='Vinny']looks like the appeal of Nintendo's own 'easy to play and for everyone' games killed two of their biggest titles.[/quote]

But here's the bad news. If minigames sell better than regular games for Nintendo, my fear that Nintendo consoles will stay in minigame hell will come true.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']But they'd buy one game for a system they haven't wanted for over a year? I'm not sure I buy that entirely.

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Mine is a question of ability to purchase. Say the Japanese really love Zelda, but if they cna't find a Wii to buy with it then why buy it right now? Now, if the same person loves Blue Dragon a whole helluva lot, they won't have a problem finding the system to play the game on and would thus be more apt to buy it.
 
[quote name='rickonker']This is a good question. Take note, Dr Mario Kart, if you didn't want to expose yourself as a fanboy you should've thought of this.[/QUOTE]

If he's a fanboy what does that make you?
 
[quote name='zewone']the wii has already sold more then the 360. it has nothing to do with availability.[/quote]And Zelda has already sold more than Blue Dragon.

No question it's good news, but it's only really good news if sales are still five figures this week.
 
[quote name='Blitz']If he's a fanboy what does that make you?[/QUOTE]
Are you trying to say I'm a fanboy? Of what?
 
thats wild. ill probably pick up a 360 when this comes out to the states. but who would have thought that a 360 game would outsell anything.
 
well its obvious this is their system seller over there...

any progress is good...

if they want to make an impact then im suprised they havent persuaded square to make something big for them.. im sure that will get all the nerds over there wet
 
[quote name='guyver2077']well its obvious this is their system seller over there...

any progress is good...

if they want to make an impact then im suprised they havent persuaded square to make something big for them.. im sure that will get all the nerds over there wet[/QUOTE]

Lost Planet? Dead Rising? Capcom's a fan of the 360, hombre.

Squeenix, on the other hand, claimed to want to support it then gave 360 users something just short of a literal turd in a glossy green box.
 
For crying out loud the thing looks like a Dragon Ball/Dragon Quet game unincluding the dnagly arms. Blue Dragon probably is going to be a seller seeing how I have a Dragon Quest based Desktop wallpaper and I never knew about the game.

Personally if it was on GCN I would buy that game also. No really this game is off the hook already before it came out.

Personally is this game made by japanese or engrish people?
 
Finally. I do hope Microsoft can get some market penetration worldwide, not just in NA and Europe.

I'm surprised by Zelda's sales figures and was launch week too. But, whatever. Competition = Good for us. I'll second the statement that I hope Nintendo doesn't slip into Mini-games-only mode with the Wii. I doubt it will, but it is a concern.
 
[quote name='rickonker']Uhh...so? The 360 was barely selling before in Japan, and suddenly the Blue Dragon bundle gets 30k preorders. Why shouldn't those be included in the figures? In fact this works against you, it means those 30k people are willing to buy a 360 just to play Blue Dragon. WTF? How biased can you get?[/quote]

I'm not saying they shouldnt be included. What I'm saying is, since preorder numbers WONT be included next week, the numbers are going to be a lot lower, like how Zelda dropped a lot. A lot of games start off at the top and drop right off the chart, particularly RPGs. Thats why I said feel free to celebrate now, but dont expect it to last.
 
And most of the people who bought Blue Dragon only did so because of the names attached to it. You could get a homeless crack addict to paint a picture using only his dick and a can of Dutch Boy paint, and as long as you tell the Japanese it's by Toriyama, they will be lining up around the block to buy it.

And this whole "Lots of games drop off" excuse doesn't work. Did Halo 2 drop off 10+ spots on the charts the month after it came out? Zelda is regarded as a AAA franchise, therefore, it is an eye opener when you see it drop off so quickly after its release. I highly doubt the same can be said about the last Final Fantasy abortion those Japanese people scooped up.
 
[quote name='daroga']Finally. I do hope Microsoft can get some market penetration worldwide, not just in NA and Europe.

I'm surprised by Zelda's sales figures and was launch week too. But, whatever. Competition = Good for us. I'll second the statement that I hope Nintendo doesn't slip into Mini-games-only mode with the Wii. I doubt it will, but it is a concern.[/QUOTE]

Zelda came out last week... it sold 140K in two days- that's all that it was record for last week since it was only out two days before the totals for the week were compiled. Next week will be very interesting to see what happens to Zelda.
 
OBJECTION!

The topic is very misleading. Zelda is in its second week, Blue Dragon came out this week. If you know anything about Japan, you know that they have HUGE first day/week sales and then almost everything drops off dramatically.

You also can't say that Blue Dragon "outsold" zelda, since Zelda sold 140k last week, If CvG wanted to make a fair comparison, and not a sensational claim that pulls people to their site, they'd have compared first week sales. That doesn't make fanboys get their panties in a bunch, though, and doesn't generate hits.

Anyone with half a brain will disregard this, and see that both Zelda and Blue Dragon were sussessful. Blue Dragon is much more impressive, however.. and this may finally be Microsoft's foot in the door for Japan, and the first real dent in Sony's home monopoly there. Since the PSP is a shambles next to the unstoppable DS, Sony has to be worried.

One more Question.
Where are the PS3 titles on that top 10 list?
 
[quote name='Roufuss']This is even more shocking... number 17? That's quite a drop.[/quote]

Umm....so and your point? it's a steep drop no doubt, but you have to consider that this is a system launch. And what do we and all gamers know happen at a system launch....there's not enough systems to meet the masses' demand. Hell, it's been weeks since it launched here and I still haven't seen a single store have one. I asked my BB, and they told me that they were getting another batch of 150 in on Friday, but had people's names on a waiting list and told me to expect long lines. this really isn't much of a surprise to me.
 
just for comparison, here's the full top 20 breakdown for this week, from kotaku.

Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Destiny: Federation vs. Z.A.F.T. II Plus (PS2) - 337,559 / new
Yakuza 2 (PS2) - 274,822 / new
Pokemon Diamond (DS) - 98,859 / 1,996,275
Blue Dragon (Xbox 360) - 80,348 / new
Pokemon Pearl (DS) - 75,206 / 1,669,367
Wii Sports (Wii) - 72,382 / 248,549
Kirby Squeak Squad (DS) - 66,421 / 465,462
Wii Play (Wii) - 62,863 / 237,160
Jump Ultimate Stars (DS) - 62,068 / 278,640
Common Knowledge Training (DS) - 55,208 / 720,752

Love and Berry DS Collection (DS)
New Super Mario Brothers (DS)
Momotarou Dentetsu 16 (PS2)
Healthy Support Recipe 1000 DS (DS)
Animal Crossing: Wild World (DS)
More Brain Age (DS)
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Wii)
Tales of Destiny (PS2)
Yakuza (The Best) (PS2)
Final Fantasy VI Advance (GBA)

So we have a top 20 list with 4 PS2 games, 10 DS games, 1 GBA game, 3 Wii games, and 1 Xbox 360 game.

Somehow this list was translated into BAD news for nintendo?
 
Reality's Fringe;2479162 said:
Mine is a question of ability to purchase. Say the Japanese really love Zelda, but if they cna't find a Wii to buy with it then why buy it right now? Now, if the same person loves Blue Dragon a whole helluva lot, they won't have a problem finding the system to play the game on and would thus be more apt to buy it.
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Exactly.:applause:
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Lost Planet? Dead Rising? Capcom's a fan of the 360, hombre.

Squeenix, on the other hand, claimed to want to support it then gave 360 users something just short of a literal turd in a glossy green box.[/quote]

And i'm a fan of Capcom (for the most part). I just hope that they do a proper port of Devil May Cry to 360 as that was my favorite original franchise of last gen. I can't wait for Lost Planet though and am probably going to set up a pre-order this weekend.
 
[quote name='daroga']Finally. I do hope Microsoft can get some market penetration worldwide, not just in NA and Europe.

I'm surprised by Zelda's sales figures and was launch week too. But, whatever. Competition = Good for us. I'll second the statement that I hope Nintendo doesn't slip into Mini-games-only mode with the Wii. I doubt it will, but it is a concern.[/quote]

Well Nintendo has the proverbial Mario Party and some other mini-game style games. Really, IMO they're pretty much the ones that have the entire market share of that sect of gaming. Warioware, the pokemon stadiums, etc. The only company that could come close is perhaps Sega with games like The Rub Rabbits/Feel The Magic and a couple of others.
 
[quote name='jer7583']OBJECTION!

The topic is very misleading. Zelda is in its second week, Blue Dragon came out this week. If you know anything about Japan, you know that they have HUGE first day/week sales and then almost everything drops off dramatically.

You also can't say that Blue Dragon "outsold" zelda, since Zelda sold 140k last week, If CvG wanted to make a fair comparison, and not a sensational claim that pulls people to their site, they'd have compared first week sales. That doesn't make fanboys get their panties in a bunch, though, and doesn't generate hits.

Anyone with half a brain will disregard this, and see that both Zelda and Blue Dragon were sussessful. Blue Dragon is much more impressive, however.. and this may finally be Microsoft's foot in the door for Japan, and the first real dent in Sony's home monopoly there. Since the PSP is a shambles next to the unstoppable DS, Sony has to be worried.

One more Question.
Where are the PS3 titles on that top 10 list?[/quote]

There's not enough PS3's for anything to really make a striking dent compared to the Nintendo juggaurnaught at the moment. And that's an interesting statement regarding this being Microsoft's foot in the door there. Really if you think about this, this could be the turn that actually has them push through and past Sony since Sony can't seem to get production in tow to meet whatever demand they have there.
 
Ok so the consensus is, it's a huge drop for Zelda but Nintendo overall is doing well, Sony is getting owned, and this could be a big step for MS?
 
This will hopefully spark some interest in the system. There are a few games in the next month that may garner more sales. There's Lost Planet, Viva Pinata, and Gears of War coming out in January I believe. Viva Pinata, is right up the alley for Japanese styled games. Anyone remember Seaman for dreamcast? That sold close to a million at the end of its run.
 
It's great news that Blue Dragon sold well in Japan. I really hope that the 360 sells better because of Blue Dragon because it's got a lot to offer.

Having said that, the Wiis sell out and Zelda has remarkably high adoption rates. Notice the first part of the statement. The Wii sells out. The simple fact of the matter is that Zelda will sell with at least 2 out of every 3 Wiis bought in Japan. Zelda took such a large hit because Nintendo just can't make enough Wiis yet, not because Japan is sick of Zelda.
 
[quote name='Dr Mario Kart']Its not unusual for new stuff to place highly on the list. RPGs tend to burn out though and drop off the list pretty fast.

That 80k figure includes 30k preorders that came with the Blue Dragon bundle. You can have your fun for one week though.[/QUOTE]

This case is unusual.
WHY?!
That is because we're talking about the XBOX 360!
Did I forgot to mention that this is JAPAN we're talking about.
Usually, MS would be happy just to be in the top 100 (yea. yea. I have to back up this random comment, but you get the point).

PS:
I didn't even realize that MS has sold 80K+ XBOX 360s in japan.
lol
 
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