Bungie and MS are tag teaming XBox modders!

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This is so awesome.. apparently there's something in Halo 2 that scans everyfuckinthing in your XBox and if anything's been modified, you're banned. That's so fuckin' awesome.

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?s=554d6842c3f4fe7cc2334f1262623a07&showtopic=303603

That's a link to the post at an XBox modder forum.. read the people getting pissed.. and laugh! This is hilarious.

MODS: If you think the link is inappropriate, feel free to remove it.. but I don't see anything wrong with it.
 
My two used to be softmodded but not for a while, not since I put XBL on both of them. Thats the price you pay... I fully support people that want to modify their Xbox, but MS has every right not to allow you to use their service if you do.
 
Some of the people there don't even have Halo 2, so it might not have anything to do with Bungie. I'm glad all those people who waited at midnight to get their games now can't play them.
 
I think that they used Halo 2 as a vehicle to catch more. They knew people would buy it, so maybe it installed stuff on their system, too. Like a virus.

A virus that amuses the holy fuck out of me.
 
this is great, but i dont look forward to customers coming in and asking why it doesnt work. then ill tell them its because their xbox is modded. then theyll get mad at me like i was the one who did it. oh well, its still great.
 
I had been playing live with splinter cell and when I got halo 2 it required me to download something to play, did anyone else have to download something? Maybe the thing you downloaded checks or something
 
Then the modders can buy two xboxes, one to mod and one not. Thus M$ loses more money. Wouldnt that be funny to see it backfire like that. At least if they're playing it on Live they've probably bought a game.
 
[quote name='bignick']hmmm, I havent had to download anything, maybe since my xbox has been connected to live for 3 days now....[/quote]

thats odd, I started playing halo 2 on live Thursday

I just thought it was odd how I had to download something for a new game and they said it was like an xbox live update even though I had been playing splinter cell online for months and never had to download anything.
 
[quote name='scuba'][quote name='bignick']hmmm, I havent had to download anything, maybe since my xbox has been connected to live for 3 days now....[/quote]

thats odd, I started playing halo 2 on live Thursday

I just thought it was odd how I had to download something for a new game and they said it was like an xbox live update even though I had been playing splinter cell online for months and never had to download anything.[/quote]


My xbox has been on, and connected to xbox live for 3 consecutive days, I havent turned it off.
 
[quote name='scuba']I had been playing live with splinter cell and when I got halo 2 it required me to download something to play, did anyone else have to download something? Maybe the thing you downloaded checks or something[/quote]

You need that download to actually play Halo 2 on Live. I guess it could've checked your Xbox while doing so though.


What if someone was to buy a used modded Xbox? Would they pretty much be screwed?
 
I know I had to download something right away when I first tried to play it on Live. I don't think I had to download anything to play the campaign though.
 
[quote name='Renzokuken']Entertaining :D[/quote]

It's very funny. I have been reading through the thread laughing my butt off. "How dare Microsoft try to stop us for doing something illegal!" :lol:
 
Actually, I don't think that's so cool. MOST of the modders use it to pirate and do illegal things but some just want to play imports or have a bigger hard drive and that's really not right for them to get targeted too.
 
[quote name='PhrozenFire']Actually, I don't think that's so cool. MOST of the modders use it to pirate and do illegal things but some just want to play imports or have a bigger hard drive and that's really not right for them to get targeted too.[/quote]

That may be so, but when you sign up for Live, Microsoft explicitly states that you cannot use a modded system on Live. Everyone agrees to that, so if they are using a modded box, it's really their own fault they are banned.
 
There's no need for a bigger hard drive, and the support in Japan is less than it is here in the US.. i've yet to hear about someone modifying their XBox console just to play an import.
 
This pretty much destroys the after market for xbox though. If you want to buy a used one you better do it now. Yes I know there were ones banned from live before....but now there will be a lot more.
 
i have been thinking about just putting in a bigger hard drive in my xbox since i have 14 games since like september when i started buying. that is a lot for me since i hadn't had a job (that i held for long enough) until august this month. i keep buying more and more games which is why i am broke right now. i guess i won't do that now that i have halo 2 and will probably get xbox live next year.
 
[quote name='rally9x']This pretty much destroys the after market for xbox though. If you want to buy a used one you better do it now. Yes I know there were ones banned from live before....but now there will be a lot more.[/quote]

Well for people who plan on using Xbox live which is 1 out of the 9 people I know with an Xbox, but I don't know anything about the national statistics.
 
[quote name='biggestinuyashafan']i have been thinking about just putting in a bigger hard drive in my xbox since i have 14 games since like september when i started buying. that is a lot for me since i hadn't had a job (that i held for long enough) until august this month. i keep buying more and more games which is why i am broke right now. i guess i won't do that now that i have halo 2 and will probably get xbox live next year.[/quote]

Why would you need a bigger HD? With Halo 2, that makes my XBox game count up to 85, I have 300+ custom tracks on there, and I have no need for a bigger HD.
 
really? that is crazy. i don't have a clue how much space most games take up, so i figured i would need a bigger hard drive after a while. guess not which is fine by me since i can use that money for games. it would have been a while before i put a bigger hard drive in, but if i feel like getting livethen i guess i wouldn't be able to do that anyways. also, don't get me wrong for wanting to put that hard drive in, it isn't for pirating games. i hate when people do that.
 
i fucking love it. I have no love more microsoft, but the pirates are taking straight up the ass right now, i find to it be outstanding
 
[quote name='biggestinuyashafan']really? that is crazy. i don't have a clue how much space most games take up, so i figured i would need a bigger hard drive after a while. guess not which is fine by me since i can use that money for games. it would have been a while before i put a bigger hard drive in, but if i feel like getting livethen i guess i wouldn't be able to do that anyways. also, don't get me wrong for wanting to put that hard drive in, it isn't for pirating games. i hate when people do that.[/quote]

Are we talking about game saves or backing full games up to the HD? Because I prefer to play my games the 100% legit way. By manipulating the system and trading in four $2 games and getting a $50 game. :lol:
 
i was talking about game saves. i had no idea on the amount of space most took. it would be nice to be able to put my games on a hard drive so i don't have to carry them around whenever i take my xbox somewhere, but it isn't worth breaking copyright laws or whatever it does. i just thought that it would hold maybe 30-40 games max and that with my growing collection of xbox games (which is what i mainly buy now), i would end up running out of space on it.
 
No. 8GB HD can hold a ton of saves. It holds all of mine, over 300 custom tracks, and I STILL have 50,000+ blocks free. No need to replace the HD.
 
thats cool with me since i would rather not have to buy a new hard drive anyways. glad i didn't decide to do it before and ended up regretting it.
 
[quote name='rally9x']This pretty much destroys the after market for xbox though. If you want to buy a used one you better do it now. Yes I know there were ones banned from live before....but now there will be a lot more.[/quote]
Buy "refurbished" from EB or GS, they come from MS. I think they'd let you return yours if its banned anyway though.

[quote name='Scorch']Why would you need a bigger HD? With Halo 2, that makes my XBox game count up to 85, I have 300+ custom tracks on there, and I have no need for a bigger HD.[/quote]
Legal purposes? The PVR mod, probably not much else. Maybe for the homebrew software but most of that isn't very large. I actually take this move as a sign of XBL's complete superiority and dominance, they're very aggressively eliminating cheating this way.
 
[quote name='mmn']Good, shaq-fu modders.[/quote]
No, fuck software pirates. Modders can do whatever they want IMO unless they pirate software or they want to use live.
 
[quote name='dafoomie'][quote name='mmn']Good, shaq-fu modders.[/quote]
No, shaq-fu software pirates. Modders can do whatever they want IMO unless they pirate software or they want to use live.[/quote]

The group of people who mod but don't pirate is so small they could probably all fit inside a Toyota Echo comfortably.

If you're putting a 100 GB hard drive in your Xbox and disabling all the copyright protection you're probably doing it for shady reasons. If people who modded weren't pretty much always pirates MS wouldn't have a problem with modding.
 
[quote name='mmn'][quote name='dafoomie'][quote name='mmn']Good, shaq-fu modders.[/quote]
No, shaq-fu software pirates. Modders can do whatever they want IMO unless they pirate software or they want to use live.[/quote]

The group of people who mod but don't pirate is so small they could probably all fit inside a Toyota Echo comfortably.

If you're putting a 100 GB hard drive in your Xbox and disabling all the copyright protection you're probably doing it for shady reasons. If people who modded weren't pretty much always pirates MS wouldn't have a problem with modding.[/quote]
Nah, there are legit reasons for that. Xbox Media Center is free and works great. MS just started offering a similar, entirely inferior product for $99. Its not bypassing the copy protection, its bypassing the vendor lockout.
 
My reasons for having a modded xbox:
1. Much faster load times (with games backed-up)
2. No need to carry around all of your games.
3. Playing Genesis and PSX roms on the xbox is great.
4. XBMC
5. Phantom Dust (an Import).

My favorite aspect of it all is how its almost like having a library in my xbox. I suppose you could compare it to an MP3 player.
I did not mod my xbox in order to cheat or be a "pirate." So flame me if you want, but I don't see that I've done anything wrong except do something that Microsoft did not want me to do.
 
[quote name='A7las']My reasons for having a modded xbox:
1. Much faster load times (with games backed-up)
2. No need to carry around all of your games.
3. Playing Genesis and PSX roms on the xbox is great.
4. XBMC
5. Phantom Dust (an Import).

My favorite aspect of it all is how its almost like having a library in my xbox. I suppose you could compare it to an MP3 player.
I did not mod my xbox in order to cheat or be a "pirate." So flame me if you want, but I don't see that I've done anything wrong except do something that Microsoft did not want me to do.[/quote]

Not to be picky, but you're still 'pirating' Genny and PSX titles. I agree with your other points though.
 
[quote name='Dr Mario Kart']Then the modders can buy two xboxes, one to mod and one not. Thus M$ loses more money. Wouldnt that be funny to see it backfire like that. At least if they're playing it on Live they've probably bought a game.[/quote]


I fail to see how you giving Microsoft more money for a normal XBOX system somehow hurts Microsoft. Last time I checked revenue was good. I'll check with my accountant and get back to you on that.
 
[quote name='sying'][quote name='Dr Mario Kart']Then the modders can buy two xboxes, one to mod and one not. Thus M$ loses more money. Wouldnt that be funny to see it backfire like that. At least if they're playing it on Live they've probably bought a game.[/quote]


I fail to see how you giving Microsoft more money for a normal XBOX system somehow hurts Microsoft. Last time I checked revenue was good. I'll check with my accountant and get back to you on that.[/quote]

Because MS sells Xboxes at a loss and buying a second Xbox won't translate into extra game sales also when they already have a system.
 
Pretty funny story, but I agree with most of the people here: Modding is okay if it isn't ripping a company off. And yes, each Xbox unit sold is a loss of money to M$.
 
I still don't see why people don't jsut use a computer. It's the same thing, and all that money you spend modding it and all the hassle of getting banned and then all the money you have to spend REmodding it only to get banned again; That money could make you one sweet computer. And hey, it does all the same things! Want to paly Xbox live? Then buy an Xbox and get live games. It's the only way to play them it seems, so why waste your time?
 
After spending some time thinking whether to mod my box or not, this obviously makes up my decision. Makes me save money to buy games.
 
[quote name='jmcc'][quote name='sying'][quote name='Dr Mario Kart']Then the modders can buy two xboxes, one to mod and one not. Thus M$ loses more money. Wouldnt that be funny to see it backfire like that. At least if they're playing it on Live they've probably bought a game.[/quote]


I fail to see how you giving Microsoft more money for a normal XBOX system somehow hurts Microsoft. Last time I checked revenue was good. I'll check with my accountant and get back to you on that.[/quote]

Because MS sells Xboxes at a loss and buying a second Xbox won't translate into extra game sales also when they already have a system.[/quote]

It's all moot because it wouldn't happen. Either they will realize that being upset is stupid or they will say something like "Well, M$ (because they are the type of people to use the horribly stupid M$) is never getting any of my money again" which is exactly what Microsoft wants.
 
Good thing I have a seperate Xbox just for LIVE and another with 160gb HD and Xenium mod. I don't want to carry a big box full of games when I'm between my place at school and coming back home. Easy just to back them up. XBconnect isn't a bad alternative to LIVE if you are on a college campus and still want to play multiplayer. I never believed that "turning of the chip" on a modded xbox fully protects you from MS scanning your stuff. I highly recommend looking into modding if you are somewhat tech saavy as the benefits highly outweigh the cons (unless LIVE is a #1 priority).
 
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