Kain Vincent
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I've heard of Bushido Blade, but never played it. Is either one of the games worth owning? If so, what is a good price for either one (or both)?
Bushido Blade, a series worth playing?
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i remember playing bushido blade when it first came out and i loved it.
i don't understand why there aren't more intense fighting games like it.
basically it's pretty realistic. if you cut someone in the neck, they die. so you can breeze through the game just by hacking the crap out of people's faces.
but in terms of vs. mode, it's awesome because you can really develop strategies and techniques.
if they had taken the concept and really fully developed it, i think it could have made an awesome game.
i don't understand why there aren't more intense fighting games like it.
basically it's pretty realistic. if you cut someone in the neck, they die. so you can breeze through the game just by hacking the crap out of people's faces.
but in terms of vs. mode, it's awesome because you can really develop strategies and techniques.
if they had taken the concept and really fully developed it, i think it could have made an awesome game.
orangemage
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Bushido Blade is a great game but Bushido Blade 2 IMO is crap stay far away from that one
Nirvanaguy777
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I really enjoyed the first bushido blade, never got around to the second one, pick up a copy when you can it should be fairly cheap.
I remembered playing the bushido blade demo that came with FF7 for an inordinate amount of time and enjoyed the times I rented Bushido Blade 1 and 2, but when I bought a used copy of Bushido Blade 1 last year, I didn't think the game held up. A ps1 fighter just looks and plays so old. I think the 2d fighters of SNES and Genesis hold up better than the 3d fighters of ps1.
[quote name='mbstuff']I remembered playing the bushido blade demo that came with FF7 for an inordinate amount of time and enjoyed the times I rented Bushido Blade 1 and 2, but when I bought a used copy of Bushido Blade 1 last year, I didn't think the game held up. A ps1 fighter just looks and plays so old. I think the 2d fighters of SNES and Genesis hold up better than the 3d fighters of ps1.[/QUOTE]
yeah, i agree with that. the smoothness of 2d fighters is a whole other thing tho.
yeah, i agree with that. the smoothness of 2d fighters is a whole other thing tho.
[quote name='punqsux']graphics dont mean jack, the game still rocks if youre not a whore[/QUOTE]
It's not just graphics, it's having 6 playable characters, loading times, low production value (i.e. bad writing/translation).
It's still a unique game. I just didn't think it held up as well as, say, the street fighter alpha games.
It's not just graphics, it's having 6 playable characters, loading times, low production value (i.e. bad writing/translation).
It's still a unique game. I just didn't think it held up as well as, say, the street fighter alpha games.
soulyogurt
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I loved the first one... they dumbed down the fighting system on the second, to give a bit more mass appeal I think... Play the first game for sure...
To players of the Bushido Blade games:
Are any of these PS2 Samurai games comparable at all (basically, are there any swordplay simulators out there)? I recall seeing Kengo, Way of the Samurai... Any recommendations for fans of (somewhat) accurately modeled swordplay (not big fantasy weapons, whatever)?
To players of the Bushido Blade games:
Are any of these PS2 Samurai games comparable at all (basically, are there any swordplay simulators out there)? I recall seeing Kengo, Way of the Samurai... Any recommendations for fans of (somewhat) accurately modeled swordplay (not big fantasy weapons, whatever)?
Way of the samurai is comparable to bushido blade. They dont really force the damage to your extremeties as much but it's got a generally more interesting story for as long as it lasts and there's lots of dempt to the figiting system.
Alot of attention is paid to collecting weapons. While most of them are realistic swords, some of the weapons are a bit on the wild side.
Alot of attention is paid to collecting weapons. While most of them are realistic swords, some of the weapons are a bit on the wild side.
The first one is well worth your time. I still pull it out from time to time -- it is very challenging. They were both niche games that got Sony backing and became part of the Sony Value Line -- PS1 games that were first run, but discounted to $29.00 because Sony liked them and wanted to promote them.
The 2nd one has terrible English VO, and they made critical changes to the stances which weaken the overall experience. They also disposed of the "one large map" model in favor of smaller maps, which I found a little frustrating. The overall gameplay was simplified for mass acceptance, while adding more varied characters. The VOs are a deal killer though -- but it is worth looking into.
LightWeight, who developed the Bushido Blade series for Square, was subsequently bought by Genki, and went on to develop "Kengo: Master of Bushido" for the PS2. Kengo was very underappreciated, moving to historical characters in the Samurai era, and mistakenly eliminating the one-hit kills. Again, the perception of one-hit kills was thought to be unpopular by the developers. Some have claimed this game was a PS1 port to the PS2, but that is crap -- it is just a very, very 1st gen PS2 game without a lot of polish -- still a lot of fun if u liked BB1 more than BB2. Kengo 1 is really just a fighting game with no pretense of story at all, but adding a series of mini-games to build your samurai's attributes.
Kengo 2 made a Japanese and EU debut (2 years later after the JP release, by UbiSoft), but never hit the US. Crave had US rights to the title, but dumped it when it reorganized its business to focus on distribution and budget titles. Kengo 2 introduced famous Samurai from history, added a storyline back in, and brought back the 100 Kill mode. One-hit kills also started their return to the series, but more-so in Kengo 3.
Kengo 3 was recently released in Japan and expanded upon the overall experience. Kengo 2 and 3 both added multiple enemy fights, story lines, and more characters and modes. The Kengo games have all been best sellers in Japan, graduating to the "Books" greatest hits series.
Genki also has a second samurai series based on the Fu-un Shinsen -Gumi. One title is out, the other pending. Both feature character designs from the character designer of the Metal Gear Solid series, and are more mission based.
If u are interested in the BB series, the "Way of the Samurai" series from Aquire/Spike, creators of the orig Tenchu series on the PS1, is the inheritor to the throne. The first game is great, though a little unorthadox. It is like playing a Kurosawa movie, except for the Afro on one of the NPCs -- almost like a JP GTA.
The 2nd WOTS is even more GTA/RPG like, but did not do well at all in the US. Capcom handled the localization and bascially dropped it after it released it. I dare u to find mention of it on the Capcom Web site anymore. The VO sucks. It is damn hard to find at CAG prices.
The latest WOTS title is going to be released in the US by Atlus as "Samurai Western," and basically continues Aquire's tendancy to start off strong with an intellectual property, and then screw it up by the last release. The game has reviewed poorly. I'll probably still buy it though.
The 2nd one has terrible English VO, and they made critical changes to the stances which weaken the overall experience. They also disposed of the "one large map" model in favor of smaller maps, which I found a little frustrating. The overall gameplay was simplified for mass acceptance, while adding more varied characters. The VOs are a deal killer though -- but it is worth looking into.
LightWeight, who developed the Bushido Blade series for Square, was subsequently bought by Genki, and went on to develop "Kengo: Master of Bushido" for the PS2. Kengo was very underappreciated, moving to historical characters in the Samurai era, and mistakenly eliminating the one-hit kills. Again, the perception of one-hit kills was thought to be unpopular by the developers. Some have claimed this game was a PS1 port to the PS2, but that is crap -- it is just a very, very 1st gen PS2 game without a lot of polish -- still a lot of fun if u liked BB1 more than BB2. Kengo 1 is really just a fighting game with no pretense of story at all, but adding a series of mini-games to build your samurai's attributes.
Kengo 2 made a Japanese and EU debut (2 years later after the JP release, by UbiSoft), but never hit the US. Crave had US rights to the title, but dumped it when it reorganized its business to focus on distribution and budget titles. Kengo 2 introduced famous Samurai from history, added a storyline back in, and brought back the 100 Kill mode. One-hit kills also started their return to the series, but more-so in Kengo 3.
Kengo 3 was recently released in Japan and expanded upon the overall experience. Kengo 2 and 3 both added multiple enemy fights, story lines, and more characters and modes. The Kengo games have all been best sellers in Japan, graduating to the "Books" greatest hits series.
Genki also has a second samurai series based on the Fu-un Shinsen -Gumi. One title is out, the other pending. Both feature character designs from the character designer of the Metal Gear Solid series, and are more mission based.
If u are interested in the BB series, the "Way of the Samurai" series from Aquire/Spike, creators of the orig Tenchu series on the PS1, is the inheritor to the throne. The first game is great, though a little unorthadox. It is like playing a Kurosawa movie, except for the Afro on one of the NPCs -- almost like a JP GTA.
The 2nd WOTS is even more GTA/RPG like, but did not do well at all in the US. Capcom handled the localization and bascially dropped it after it released it. I dare u to find mention of it on the Capcom Web site anymore. The VO sucks. It is damn hard to find at CAG prices.
The latest WOTS title is going to be released in the US by Atlus as "Samurai Western," and basically continues Aquire's tendancy to start off strong with an intellectual property, and then screw it up by the last release. The game has reviewed poorly. I'll probably still buy it though.
Hey, someone who's been paying more attention than me. So, is Kengo 3 looking at a US release? It sounds like it might finally be worth looking at. Was not a big fan of the first one.
As for WOTS; I've only played the first one, and it was pretty entertaining. Lifebars are present, though, so it's a poor substitute for Bushido Blade. I keep thinking about picking up the second, but it's difficult to work up any enthusiasm for.
As for WOTS; I've only played the first one, and it was pretty entertaining. Lifebars are present, though, so it's a poor substitute for Bushido Blade. I keep thinking about picking up the second, but it's difficult to work up any enthusiasm for.
I can't speak for the second BB game as I've never played it. But along with all the previous statements you should know that you can pull off the all time greatest bad-guy-in-a-martial-arts-movie move in this game: throwing sand in your opponent's face to gain the advantage. Heh, I may be in the minority here but the only move I feel could ever top it is if a hardcore fighting game(VF 5?) decided to include the infamous Ric Flair thumb-to-the-eye.
I dunno, maybe I just enjoy playing the heel too much.
I dunno, maybe I just enjoy playing the heel too much.
soulyogurt
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I've seen the BB games cheaper than that at my local EB, I'm sure...
BB should be very cheap at all the EBs and GSs of the world.
Kengo 3 has no US release plans. In fact Genki has pretty much abandoned the US market. Some of us on the GameFAQ message board lobbied Genki pretty hard to get Kengo 2 released -- they personally responded to our inquiries, but unfortunately said no US release. Someone on the board is now claiming to to be working with Capcom on a release of Kengo 3, but I seriously doubt that, given the dismal performance of WOTS2.
Kengo 3 has no US release plans. In fact Genki has pretty much abandoned the US market. Some of us on the GameFAQ message board lobbied Genki pretty hard to get Kengo 2 released -- they personally responded to our inquiries, but unfortunately said no US release. Someone on the board is now claiming to to be working with Capcom on a release of Kengo 3, but I seriously doubt that, given the dismal performance of WOTS2.
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